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It's shameful if the new owner is foreign but

Posted By: trying to show it as US only just to make money on 2008-03-04
In Reply to: okay, but please answer this..sm - hmm


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    Hey rimrods!!! He fully disclosed he was foreign, it was foreign
    trying to catch him telling lies when he already told you he was. Really smart people around here. Call names, insult, tell everyone to leave and go to another site and then wonder why your posts are being deleted. At least he's not feeding everyone a load of CRAP about offshoring. He simply told the truth.
    Again, DON'T go with a for sale by owner agent. Buy Owner is the same thing.
    If you posted an ad to find someone who would kill you and eat you, you would get responses too (this has happened, by the way, and the advertiser was killed and gutted like a hog).  Just because you posted such an insulting ad and desperate people answered it does not make it right.  You get the MT-awarded Badge of Shame this week.
    7 cpl is shameful

    I just wish most people could afford to go out on strike even for a few days and let everything pile up. That would totally hold up entire hospital systems (not that I would want to jeopardize a patient's care), but what else can we do. They can't send everything to ASR, especially the crap that a lot of people are getting these days, and doing it for less money. Aren't you sick of this?

    Seriously, what do you think 2 or 3 days of no shows of even up to 30% of employees would do to, for example, Medquist. Major backlog, clients complaining. Stretch it to 4 days, big problem.

    Who could afford to take 2 to 4 days without pay? Who would be willing to strike?  Do you think it would get any result? 

    I agree my painful is shameful...
    But as far as being full-time MTs in this area with benefits and being paid hourly this is "good". Yep, that's how badly this profession is going down the tubes.

    The only place I can work other than this and make more money with benefits is the hospital and they expect even more production from you, with harder jobs that I am not experienced with.

    I took the paycut becuase I get to work from home (they released me to work from after one year).

    Spheris also offshores to India. Shameful.


    Oh, boo hoo!  Those foreigners learn our language so they can take our jobs and our money, you numbskull.  They aren't here to help us.  They take advantage of our laws which actually seem to favor foreigners over citizens, especially if the foreigners are "minorities."  (An interesting term since the only true minority in this world is white people.  About 85% of the world's population is non-white.)  

    People like you who think you are so tolerant, are part of the problem.  In this country we would all be learning Chinese if the situations were reversed and China was the country with the open door policy and all the wealth. 

    BTW, I lived and worked in Latin America and learned Spanish BEFORE I went there - I didn't expect the people of Colombia to pay to have everything I needed translated into my own language, which is precisely what these foreigners who come here to leech off us expect.

    I'm an MT....slavery is not foreign to me.
    Whatever it takes.
    foreign docs
    And why do a lot of those same ones who speak such poor English also make no sense in putting together their sentences?  I have several that sound like they are clenching their teeth together and straining to get the words out which makes it even worse.  I know exactly what you mean.  Their oughta be a LAW! 
    Those foreign guys

    Yeah, we've all had our share of "those" guys.  I worked in Radiology for a Spanish guy for about two years.  He thought his English was perfect, so anytime there were blanks he went off of his latino-rocker.  So I finally get this guy "nailed" where I can transcribe his reports just as fast as the others, and then what happens..  ? I lose the stinkin' account to VR!  So he still sends me work on occasion and guess what .... he's crystal clear NOW, and why?  Voice Recognition doesn't DO gibberish ... it trained HIM!  HA!   (Course he has to speak slowly now, losing lots of "billable hours"  And of course, they had to hire an Editor to clean up the reports, punctuate, and correct his English.)     Go figure!  ');>

    Seriously, though, if you can't stay with that ESL day-in and day-out for at least a month, you will never get him.  Why companies bombard MT's with different docs from day-to-day is just beyond me.  If QA were REALLY that important, they wouldn't do that.

    You all are talking foreign to me
    I have ShortHand and love it, but you left me way behind. A Shorthand course would be great.

    isn't SPI a foreign company
    Maybe you could work for them.  They bought out Cymed.
    foreign dictators
    Wow, you sound so full of hate!!!Do you even know how difficult it is to learn another language? Have you ever tried to speak another language?

    I don't particularly care for ESL's but...
    foreign dictators!!

    From one blondie to another--I couldn't agree with you more!

    Drives me crazy, not to mention my so-called "productivity!"

    What does the site being down have to do with foreign MTs?

    Bonus from OJT - foreign dictators. (sm)

    I learned OJT in a small hospital with a PDR, Dorlands and a boss with an attitude from &*^%&*^.  There were only about 7 doctors on staff, 4 of which were foreign.  I started off learning to cope with a Thai accent in a physician who had had a speech defect, a Nigerian, a Swede and a Czech.  It was a painstaking way to learn, but I am greatful every day that accents have become a way of life for me.  I almost prefer them to some of those mealy-mouthed speed demons. 

    I can remember cursing when they would say "Go back up and change this".  Just rip that paper out of the typewriter and start again. 

    My children can't imagine a time before computers.  Will have to take them to a museum someday and show them what life used to be like.




    It's not the foreign workers who are at fault sm

    The fault lies with the big US corporations who are the greedy SOBs that have outsourced the jobs so they can save billions over what they would pay workers in the US. 

    So, to be rude to and cuss out these working people is not going to get us anywhere.  What we should do is boycott the corporations who are sending the work overseas.  Maybe if they lose enough business they will get smart to themselves and bring the jobs back to the US workers. 

    I don't do foreign-speaking docs....
    Either they speak English and speak it clearly or they don't have me for their transcriptionist. I'll be danged if I'm going to spend 15 minutes trying to figure out their dictation because they "don't speekee English," or they dont' want to take the time to speak it clearly. Let an MT who doesn't value their time or money transcribe for them! Some may think that's heartless, but that's just the way it is. I'm in this business to make money, not coddle docs who can and refuse to speak straight.
    First Job, given only foreign dictators, and never the same. Doing allright, however, should I look
    This is my first job, and I am never given the same dictator.  Also, this is hospital work with basically any kind of reports.  Only doing about 200 lines a day for 6 cents.  Should I look for another job???
    Focus stands for Foreign

    Focus is an Indian company, you know.  Most who have been there were not happy, and many MTs only go there because they are fresh out of school and find it hard to get the experience they need.  Just FYI.

    I do have a 2nd job with US owned co. that I love. Foreign

    This is NOT racisim.  This is plain common sense and courtesy. 

    Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
    are different than U.S.  Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours.  That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
    I think the foreign kid adoptions are liberal Hollywood

    I don't think these kids are anything more than a fashion accessory/photo op for these phonies. I'm sure she and the other "stars" who adopt these kids for whatever attention/approval-seeking reasons have a full staff on hand 24/7 to take care of the kids when the cameras aren't rolling.

    I doubt Angelina's ever been vomited on or crapped on (at least not by her kids anyway). 

    It's the topic of the moment. You must be in a foreign country maybe.
    There was a catastrophic hurricane with a devastating flood afterwards! A disaster of biblical proportions! Many people lost their homes, the worldly positions, billions of dollars in loss. Lives were lost, the poor, the elderly and the infirmed. We watched it on the news (it was on here in the U.S. around the clock). Try www.cnn.com for all the details.
    I think MTSO should inquire of foreign docs if they want their

    Like it should be standard practice for transcription services to require hospitals to ask------------------

    Dr. Pammmmbogmamajama - would you like your dictation to go to India.  Check YES or NO.

    Dr. Filiyambo - would you like your dictation to go to PHILIPPINES.  Check YES or NO.

    Dr. MacIntiremeout - would you like your dictation to go to IRELAND.  Check YES or NO.

    Dr. Chinese - would you like your dictation to go to CHINA.  Check YES or NO (we have to know they are creating offices in Shanghi as we speak)

    Hey, I can deal with "the boys" from home.  But I'm sick and tired of  feeling like I chose the wrong profession and should be working in the State Department as translator and should certainly be drawing down lots more salary and getting a WHOLE lot more respect. 

    That way we could keep the English dictation in the United States and have it being done by people who have English as their first language.

    Ha! Those jobs they'll just import the foreign PhD on
    on one of those work visas as they do nurses and teachers. Pay 'em less and put another American out of work.

    Wake up, America! No job is safe any more.
    Do you charge more for foreign-speaking doctors? nm
    really?? Worse than the offshore foreign transcriptionists?
    That's odd.
    venting re foreign patient names
    I just typed a long report where the patient has some weird foreign name so it's difficult to tell gender. The doc dictates as a male throughout, i.e. he, his etc. At the end changes it to a female.
    Tired of these low class foreign doctors
    They live here but they cannot learn the language.  Most should not be here in the first place.  They were admitted to medical school with the proviso that they return to their own countries to work as doctors and help their own people;  they got all these fancy or free grants to pay for their schooling; American citizens were pushed aside to fulfill the foreign student enrollment requirements for medical school to "help the needy countries health problems".  Then they got dollar signs in their eyes.  They refused to learn how to talk.  They are arrogant, sloppy, nasty, and are too mentally compromised to even learn how to push the right buttons to enter patient numbers into systems.  What pigs!!!!!!!!!!!  And they expect perfection?   I think we should sign every report off with a blurb saying unable to understand dictator, please return him/her to his own country. 
    are you working for third world foreign doctors?
    This has been my experience.
    TransTech does this group, too. Awful foreign residents! nm
    I was living in a foreign country with my parents, probably getting ready for
    elementary school. Didn't even know who he was. I don't remember my parents mentioning it, but it was shortly after that when the stupid joke about "What would it take to reunite the Beatles?" came out.
    My company foreign owned but they have US office people
    Site was foreign built from the beginning..just listed at top only for US
    True! Computer techs are all foreign. Used to be a good-
    still have a tech job are usuallyh IC's, with no job security and no benefits. Lots of computer and microchip manufacturing jobs, that spawned the 'Silicon Valley' in California have gone offshore. Now even radiologists have to worry about their jobs, as some places send the x-rays digitally to Philippines to be read.

    What I'd like to know is.... What exactly is going to be LEFT in the United States for US to do? Gas station attendant? Nope... most are self-serve, unless you live in Oregon. Wal-Mart Greeter? Hmm... not old enough (or retired enough) for that. Farm worker? Nope. Mexicans have cornered that market. Waitress? Nope. Lots of eat-in restaurants going belly-up these days. Typesetter? Nope. Newspapers are going extinct. Web designer? Nope. Most people can design their own nowadays. Retail? Same as the restaurants. Teacher? Whoa - talk about an underpaid profession! Nurse? Another underpaid one. Not a good choice for us work-at-home recluses. Truck driver? One of the few jobs where they need people, but to make ends meet these days you have to pretty much live in your truck. Flight attendant? Not a good choice for us recluses who hate to fly. Rap artist? Pretty saturated field. Hair stylist? I don't even comb my OWN hair most of the time, and haven't cut it in years. So I'd be pretty useless unless someone with long hair wanted a French braid. Chef or short-order cook? Not if you only cook TV dinners. (Does that count as cooking?) Dog-walker? Nah - I'm a cat-person. Bike-messenger? In my town, most of em don't live very long. You never see middle-aged bike messengers. Taxi-driver? Nope - the Sikhs have cornered that market. Executive secretary? (What? Go back to wearing heels and pantyhose? NEVER!)
    Samtel does this all the time. Pretty sure she/he is foreign because of the plain stupidity in it a
    foreign med school gradutes take separate board exams..nm
    which are different than American med school grads. There was an article in The NY Times indicating that new regulations are being pushed that would require foreign med school graduates to take a two-part board exam to practice medicine here, with one part of the exam being English proficiency. Hmmm..that should be interesting. I don't think you have all of your facts straight.
    off shoring means the company actually moves there. - of course I mean outsourcing to foreign lands.
    they may up their ante but they will always undercut us in price, because they can. No Work Comp, no EOE, no OSHA, no health insurance. If they charged the same as us, what would be the point?
    As Economy Slumps, Firms Line Up to Hire Skilled Foreign Workers

     What the heck is going on around here?  It just gets better by the day!


    No, never. I would have been an owner of a
    I would have loved to own a floral shop, catering business, and photography studio that specializes in weddings.  Now, I'm too broke to take classes in photography or start my own business.  I should have done it while I had the chance, but I was too secure with the money I was making before and thought it was a lucrative field to be in.
    Maybe the cop knows the dog owner.nm
    The owner
    should be happy you left a blank if you weren't sure of it. It's much better to blank than to guess on somethin, and even people in the business a long time have issues when beginning something new.

    I have 15 years experience and when I first read your note, even I had to stop and scratch my head for a second for what OV meant, (LOL) but I have it in my expander. I agree with the other post in that the owner should be glad you left a blank than to guess at something. I like to think that would be the mark of a good Transcriptionist to leave a blank rather than gamble at making a mistake. Also, when we learn new things, it can be stressful because you are trying to do a good job in areas where we are all new and perhaps learning new things and words. I say, keep up the good work and we all learn from our blanks whether we are new in the business or not. She was really harsh to make that comment.
    I think the owner's name was Dawn. nm
    the owner screens the MTs and knows what she is doing.
    There is one editor/QA person who if push comes to shove and you can't get it you can e-mail that person. It's a small company and run smoothly with no pompous people allowed and no incompetent people allowed.
    as a former MTSO owner

    Personally, I would not hire anyone unless they could transcribe the hardest dictator I had. And that is at LEAST two years of acute care experience.

    I think the expression is, "burned once, twice shy." 

    This came from an email from Andy, the owner, last December to the employees:

    "Whether we think offshore labor is right or wrong, it has become a fact we cannot escape from. OSi will not actively pursue offshore labor contracts, but we have made the decision to experiment with using some offshore labor to save this large OSi client from going elsewhere. We believe this is the best decision for our employees assigned to this account and the company because this account is growing and we can assign the offshore part to the future increases and not have to reassign any OSi MTs. OSi is committed to continue using US MTs for the majority of their work and we will continue to resist going offshore."

    He is talking about Ochsner, and I was told that they STILL offshore to them and also to Sarasota and Mayo.

    The problem is that they LIED AND DENIED AND LIED AND DENIED this for years. They got caught when the then-QA manager, SD, mistakenly forwarded an email from the Indian company to the company employees. Of course, she was demoted, so they hired NP to replace her. However, FA pitched a hissy and threatened to go on strike because she was overlooked, so they kissed her a$$ and moved NP to another position. Not surprisingly, that department has gone straight to the toilet, and almost everyone has either quit or gotten fired, in addition to the mass exodus of employees since this came to light, because she is incompetent, inexperienced, and daffy as hell and is the most irresponsible, nonproductive person in a management position.

    Be careful. If you are not in THE circle and kiss a$$, you are so dispensable that it is not even funny.

    Any company that repeatedly lies about offshoring, promotes incapacitated people on power trips, and sends the work offshore in the first place, is ruthless and cannot be trusted.

    Look elsewhere. It will only get worse!

    If the owner's name begins with a L, then she's sm
    okay.  I worked for a company out of Florida called Mediscript Inc a year or so ago and she was real nice.  Email me if you like.