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Mine are on a beanbag wrist rest. Need wrists at 90-degree angle

Posted By: to your keys for good ergo. nm on 2007-10-23
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personally, I cannot type unless my wrists rest on
something, and my right hand is more "pegeon-toed" inward than my left.


Question about these, is the wrist rest removable ? or - sm
is if all one piece and part of the keyboard. My pull out tray has a hump on it already so I don't need a wrist rest. Thanks.
Might put a soft wrist rest there for your heel or put a gel heel cup
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Is this w/the built-in hand rest? Touch was nice, but the rest made my palms achey. Didn't
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look at it from another angle

Part of the reason so much work is being outsourced is because there are not enough high-quality MTs in this country.  We have a lot of MTs, I know, but I firmly believe, as an educator of an MT program, that many of them do not come out of school work-ready.  It is my hope that by the apprenticeship program becoming a reality, that we will boost the skill level of our new graduates and thereby making ourselves more marketable.  Off-shoring is here to stay, unfortunately, simply because of the cost, but I think there are enough hospitals and institutions out there who demand higher quality than what off-shoring can give, and the MTs in this country simply have to rise above and prove that we are better/more educated; that we are WORTH it. 


I understand your point, I really do, but I am looking at it from another angle of better education and skills for our US MTs.


the right angle on the situation

Now this IS an angle -- who IS responsible should something happen?  But betcha they've got plenty of coverage whoever it is.  


The fact that we are losing our jobs to this is just a small piece of the pie of millions of Americans losing their jobs to offshoring.  Ten to one, most of the people you tell about this going on will tell you, "Oh!  But my doctor would NEVER do that!"  And they ask their doc, and he says, "No!  I send my work to an American service."  Does it stay in America????  What if any policies are in place to find out and ensure that it does?  Every physician I've asked about this is surprised that any company would offshore their dictation.  All they do is complain about how full of mistakes it is and how disgusted they are with the return. 


This is one of the medical community's dirtly little secrets.  It needs a thorough investigation by a concerned reporter to blow the lid off of it on a show like 60 minutes.  But who owns the networks, folks?  Who owns the media?  Those with the power, those with the money, those who are profitting by offshoring.  You think they have no financial investment in all this?  Think again.  It's not in their best interest to expose this. 


Now a remark was posted some days ago which I thought was great and it was to the effect that (as far as I know, and I may be wrong), when America offshores, the American people lose out on social security, etc. that American workers would be paying.  Now THIS seems to be something that might wake people up.  THIS aspect of offshoring would impact everyone and might get people to listen.  But I don't have the facts here, so I may be all wrong.  It just got my interest up.


The fight needs to be against offshoring in general and keeping jobs in America and protecting the American worker and the American economy.  I think that is where we will get the largest group of people on our side. 


And we need to change the public's perception of us as just clerk typists who do "medical stuff."  If it takes more education, we get it.  If it takes certification, we get it.  We do all in our power to eliminate the mental picture of a typist at the kitchen table in pjs with toddlers at his/her feet and elevate it to a professional behind a desk with the education and professional work ethic who makes a needed contribution to the medical industry at large.  They don't feel they need us.  People think anyone can do this job, that we're just a bunch of stay at home moms, etc. who for whatever reason don't want to leave the house to work.    We have to prove them wrong and show them we are as much a professional as anyone else who works from home be they accountant, dentist, or even physician.   Then we have to convince them to pay us as professionals because we're worth it, and we HAVE to be worth it.  If somehow, some day offshoring ends, we HAVE to be ready to pick up the pieces and demand what we are worth.  Why should we give away our services, be grateful to a company for "letting us work at home."  We are saving THEM money by working at home.  It is THEY who should be grateful to us and compensate us accordingly.  But again, our work has to be of such a quality that we are worth what we demand.  Medical transcription is a profession, not a hobby. 


right angle on the situation
Very well said. (clap) (clap)
The A-angle keys are very natural feeling (sm)
virtually takes seconds to get used to. I've tried lots of the ergo keyboards and haven't liked any of them. I have zero patience for "getting used to" something and zero time, too! This keyboard is not at all like the ergonomic ones, more like a regular keyboard with a little angle to the keys, so if you are wanting an ergonomic keyboard, this really isn't it.

hth!
Make sure chair is at right height so you dont have to angle
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I had bad wrists from the get-go
I have had two ganglion cysts removed from my left wrist and one removed from my right wrist.  Also, in August 2005 I had sugery for DeQuervain's in my left wrist.  It was after this that I finished my schooling and became an MT.  Maybe I'm asking for more trouble, I don't know.  But this was what I really wanted to do, so I'm willing to take the risk.  I have been having trouble with my wrists since I was in the 6th grade...so I guess I'm used to it.  So far, things have been OK for me.  I haven't had any trouble, even from the most recent surgery.  I try to take at least 5-10 minutes every hour and stretch my fingers and wrists, and just give them a "breather".  I know I will end up with trouble in the future, however.  So, I feel your pain.
And sore wrists. Have you tried any of these?

Smart Gloves.  Google them.  They're wonderful.  About $20 bucks apiece but well worth the money.


Carpal tunnel type straps.  Wal Mart.  $10 bucks apiece.


I have both and I alternate.


I ended up with numbness in my right index finger, but after buying these, it just went away after a few weeks.  My fingers and wrists have some discomfort on occasion, but nothing like they were before.


One more thing, and I know people that do this, if you do "pound" the keyboard with your fingertips, relax those hands, elbows and shoulders and just tap. If that doesn't work, you may want to get a better keyboard.


Good luck!


sore wrists
I use Oregano Oil on my wrists and the tops of my hands. Sometimes it hurts to lift fingers and I run the Oregano Oil along those bones.
Invest in some wrists splints soon. ;) nm

good for a while, until your wrists give out.
nm
Therapy for hands and wrists that keep me typing. sm

With a medium-weight rubber band around your fingers and thumb, stretch your fingers and thumb out as wide as you can against the rubber band.  Bring fingers back in then stretch them out again, repeat 10 times 2 to 3 times a day. 


If you maintain a daily schedule with this you will definitely feel a difference.  Hope this helps!


Rings on 5 fingers, bracelets on both wrists. nm
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Also wear Handeze. They keep wrists and hands
warm with some tension, not too much though, but helps with carpal tunnel also, being that they are elasticized.  I bought mine through craft catalogs, such as Herrschner's and Mary Maxim.  Can buy them through the catalog or online. 
Sorry! Wrists at 180 degrees in same flat plane as
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I have arthritis in my wrists and thumbs, and find - sm
it works just as well to make my own. I buy cheap, thin, snug-fitting gloves, then cut out the fingers so that about 2/3 of each finger sticks out. That way all knuckle joints, base of thumbs, and wrists are warm, and when they're warm, they rarely hurt & I can type faster.
Isn't decorating cakes hard on the wrists and

I wouldn't be able to handle not making more money when I need to. 


This board is not know it all and neither are the people who post here.  MT is not going away.  There are too many physicians and/or clinics that still use tapes.  Come on, let's be realistic.  There are changes and cut in pay, but do you not think the physicians are feeling the crunch as well?  They only get paid a certain amount from insurance companies.  They've been told not to prescribe certain meds.  It's not just MT, everyone is feeling the pressure of higher prices. 


It's a shame you've never found a company that truly appreciates your work!  Good luck with the cake stuff!  I hope people don't quit buying cakes because of the price of food rising!  The economy is tough, very tough! 


Oh, that is funny. What a visual...an MT with Frankenstein scars at wrists from
lol
Tip on Aching Wrists/Target Laundry Detergent!
Okay, I have hesitated sharing this one for a long time now, cause I know, absolutely know, I will get flamed somehow, cause its sort of silly, but its not silly to those of us whose wrists and/or arms are shot from this "career".  I have really bad wrists now AND elbows - actually if your wrists hurt, chances are your tendons are aggravated right up to your elbow, too, though the pain might not localize there.  At any rate, I also found my wrist would hurt with some "ADLs", mostly laundry.  No matter what size of detergent I bought, they were always heavy, and the motion of pouring deturg into the cups really hurt my right wrist. Sometimes I could even hear an audible "pop" on that motion of holding this heavy bottle and pouring. My physical medicine guy said it was the motion of that with the weight on top of typing that wreaked havoc on my wrists, and that even lots of women who don't type have popped their tendons out using laundry detergent!  Well, this is SO stupid, but...a few months ago I went to Target and saw their brand "Method" laundry detergent.  Its super concentrated and fits 32 loads in a tiny bottle. Plus, its like those mouthwash dispensers where you just hold the bottle upright and squeeze and a tiny bit of the detergent fills in a tiny cup at the top. You fill to the line, which takes all of 1 second, and that's all the detergent you need! Plus, this stuff is awesome with the laundry.  Prior to that, only Tide could get my kids clothes clean. This stuff is the BEST, and it smells great! Its about $6 for this bottle, which I would have thought expensive, but the savings on my wrists are priceless!  My carpal tunnel and elbow tendonitis have nearly completely healed. It was just this stupid combo of motions that did my wrists in!  For those older MTs like me, who've been at this for over 20 years, try it! It might help!!  Again, I see a sports med guy, and get injections occasionally. I used to have to wear wrist braces, etc.  I was scheduled for surgery until I started using this silly Target laundry detergent! Now, no more pain!  Isn't that so weird? But neat?
Any suggestions for painful hands/wrists from typing?

My hands are always freezing cold.  I wear fleece "wristies" to keep warmer.  I have pain in both hands all day from typing.  One wrist has a ganglion, and both wrists have some arthritis showing on x-ray.  I rub capsaisin on hands/wrists.  Still the pain persists.  Pain relievers (Advil, etc.) do not help much.   Prescriptions from doctors did nothing.


I was wondering if other heavy typers out there might have found some helpful things to alleviate hand/wrist pain.  I even purchased "warming cream" which is supposed to help increase circulation to the hands, but it did nothing.  I have several keyboards that I have tried also. 


THanks!


What do you do when your wrists ache and your hands weigh a ton but you have to keep typing?

I know I have read posts on here before regarding this topic but I can never find them in the archives.  Besides a different keyboard, is there something you can take like a vitamin or different foods that will help?  I have noticed that if I eat potatoe chips, my hands are stiff the next morning.  Is there a certain brace or splint you can buy that you can wear when not working or do you even wear these when working?  I thought I saw some magnetic splint somewhere.  I am not like this every day, just some of the time but when I am, it is very frustrating. 


Also work on eScription. Make more. Easier on wrists. sm
It's editing work, and the reason I personally make more is that I'm a slow typist but a fast reader and "punctuator." The eScription software is very easy to learn.
what keyboard would best help with arthritis in my long fingers and wrists
Doc says I do not have carpal tunnel syndrome or cubital tunnel syndrome, I have osteoarthritis.  Most painful in the long fingers and the wrists of both hands.  I have tried the ergonomic keyboard and just can't seem to adjust.  I do use the A-style keyboard layout and love it.  Anyone have one they use that is not as abusive to the arthritis.  Thanks in advance. 
You can still get the old one without the wrist

wrest at Amazon. That's where I got mine. I couldn't use the one with the wrist rest either.


Ellen S.


Wrist pad
Wrist pad -- good idea. I've had a heel spur the whole summer and never thought using my pedal could be aggravating it. I use a foot rest type thing that my pedal sits on. I'm going to try my extra wrist pad to rest my foot on and see what happens.
I get this to a certain degree also (sm)
It usually happens after quite a while of typing, and usually only when it is a little cold in the house, but I think it happens in warmer weather too. Mine doesn't sound as bad as yours though. It always resolves fairly quickly, does yours? I haven't had to wear gloves (yet). Let me know what you find out, if anything. I have always attributed it to poor circulation because my hands and feet seem to get cold easily, but I suppose it could be something else as well.

Sorry I didn't have any words of wisdom, just wanted to let you know that this happens to others as well and you are not alone!
aching wrist
Does anyone here have trouble with tendonitis?  I woke up this morning and could hardly move my hand.  My new keyboard is flatter than is comfortable for me.  I usually like them to be on a tilt.  Any suggestions on how to mend fast and to avoid this problem in future?
aching wrist

Sorry, didn't realize I was still on this board.


 


achy wrist

Yes but this new keyboard I have is not as slanted as I am used to.



I use a gel wrist pad. I also have the keyboard SM
in a comfortable position. Ergonomics are essential and you don't have to pay a lot for it. A good chair also helps. Mine has armrests, which I can adjust. Good luck.
New gel wrist pad and chocolates
I always get something even though it is just candy but my husband was being practical this year and bought me a new wrist pad as my other one was ratty.  The new one is great, I just have to get use to it.
yep, I have that too...on the wrist wrest. nm
nm
wrist pain
I started using oregano oil about five years ago for wrist pain. I used to wear braces and get ganglions. At one point, I couldn't even pick up a jug of milk and was worried about driving because my wrists would send shooting pains while steering my car causing me to release the steering wheel in reaction to the pain. I am CURED now because of the oregano oil. I buy it at health food stores or on-line and I apply it directly to my wrists at the first sign of pain. I have not used wrist supports since starting with oregano oil and no longer form ganglions. I LOVE IT!!!
wrist supports

Does anyone recommend a certain kind of wrist support to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome?  It looks like there are so many to choose from.


Wrist pain
I have done/tried a lot of different keyboards/splints/gloves/trays ect.  The only thing that has made my wrists/hands stop hurting is a Kinesis keyboard.  I have the Advantage.  They are costly, but well worth every penny spent and your typing speed will increase once you get the hang of it.  I love mine.  They will pry it away from my cold hands one day.  Not giving it up ever. 
Wrist issues
Hi everyone!

I am having an issue with just my left wrist. It feels like it keeps locking up, and is pretty painful if I just let my hand dangle (like if you hold your arm out and relax your wrist so your fingers are going towards the ground). I only started working in April as an MT, and I am only 21. Do you think it could just be deconditioning or is it something I should get checked out? I don't have insurance right now so I really am trying to avoid a doctor's visit but I don't want to mess myself up permanently this young!

Thanks!
My wrist hurts sometimes....sm
And one time my elbow and all up my arm was hurting. I think I need to find some good wrist supports. I have bought 2 different pairs but I can't do the ones with the fingers on them. I need the ones that are just the wrist and no fingers.
wrist pain
anyone else out there has wrist pain at the end of their shift
Wrist pain
Mine burn like they are on fire all the time from my elbows down to my hands. I take Advil and get acid reflux. My back . .. hurts all the time. I feel like I'm 90!
RE: Wrist pain
When you have burning a nerve is involved. Have you tried Alpha lipoic acid? It is a supplement which can be purchased at wally world, etc. and it not too expensive. I use it all the time for burning in my leg (had back surgery). I take it twice a day. Also I take B6 for carpal tunnel. The doc said to take up to 400 mg per day. It does help me and kept me from having to have carpal tunnel surgery for a few years. I still take it for the left wrist thought. Hope this helps you.
wrist pain
I used to have wrist pain years ago and thought I would not make it in this job. A hand therapist at the hospital I worked for evaluated my typing position and told me to be sure my keyboard was not tilted and was flat on the desk, and that my hand/fingers were level with the wrists, and the wrists were level with the elbows (90-degree angle); therefore, the lower arm including hand/fingers should be straight (not angled upward or downward) and level with the keyboard. This was awkward at first but amazingly, by the end of my first day, I actually had no more wrist pain or even shoulder pain.
Do you have a college degree, and in what?
I know there are MTs out there who have Associate's, Bachelor's, or Master's degrees.  According to other posters, those of us with higher education who choose to do MT are pitiful.
what online degree are you looking at
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However, a lot of people think getting a degree
is like getting an automatic ticket to an entirely different life with better job opportunities, more money, and career satisfaction. I thought that, too. Things have drastically changed out there, though. More and more people have degrees, so the competition is fierce. They're willing to work for less money, too, just to have A job, any job.

Also, minimum wage went up but middle wages didn't, cost of living went up, and wages have actually gone down in other industries besides MT due to offshoring.

I guess I'm just in an "if I knew then what I know now" mood. LOL None of my siblings went to college, and they're better off than I am. They make way more money than I do and don't have that monthly payment to make.

I love writing, too. Have you done any freelance writing or editing? If you get some clips built up, you might be able to break in based on talent instead of having a degree. With that specific career field in mind, it might be worth it for you to get a degree. I don't know how much competition there is in that field right now.
Bachelor's Degree
I have a BS in Communications 1990 with some graduate work. I worked as an instructor in a college doing medical assiting job placement and then I just kind of fell into transcription when my daughter was born in 1998.
PAs have at the very least a Bachelor's Degree ..

correct??


I think it's a 2 year degree (sm)
I looked into this also, but I think the pay is really low, like $7.50 an hour.
With your degree, there are a lot of things you could do.
This is only my opinion, so follow your yeart.  As all the other posters have said, this is not an easy business to get into.  Although many have done PT with young children, I could not have done it without help.  My baby had special needs, though. When you consider working at home, the key word is "working".  This job takes concentration and long hours at the keyboard.  With many jobs you work a shift.  My hours have been flexible, but you have deadlines, and you cannot always just stop to take care of your baby.  My baby needed lots of attention.  I was lucky in that my mom and mother-in-law kept her when I could not.  I never tried to do transcription unless she was asleep or my husband was home.  With a business administration degree, however, I think you would have a lot of options in starting your own business.  Many people have done well with ideas they came up with themselves.  I now do MT full-time now, but have other part-time home businesses that I am involved with as well.