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No, it is 65 character lines including spaces. The only canned text is my own.

Posted By: Intelligent One on 2005-12-28
In Reply to: it's got to be gross lines or lots of canned text (nm) - curious

I get mostly the same dictators on the same account every day. I do have carpal tunnel starting, so, gotta get it while I can.


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it's got to be gross lines or lots of canned text (nm)
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Two companies, both 65 char lines including spaces, one pays 0.10/l and the other 8.5/gross line. n
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My line including spaces is 65 characters. I've heard that not counting spaces
takes away over 35% of your line count. I believe it too because you have at least 15 or so spaces on each line that you type. Use your first sentence up top as an example; you had 77 char and 21 spaces - in that line that would be a little less than 30% of your characters that you didn't get paid for. I don't think it's worth it and wouldn't want to work without getting credit for my spaces.
If your contract does not have including spaces sm
you can attach an addendum to it to read "9 cents per 65 character line including spaces" and sign it, mail to them and have the owner sign it and send you a copy of the signed contract. If they won't do that, it probably is without spaces and they didn't want to tell you.


About 8.5 cpl 65 characters including spaces. nm
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Aaahhhh, now I get it. Gross lines vs. Character lines. I guess I've just been conditioned to
think in terms of character lines.  One of the perils of working as an IC for somebody who defines what a line is versus owning your own company and defining it yourself.  After working for someone else for 15 years, maybe it's time to bust out on my own.
Average line rate including spaces these days for experienced MTs is
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Template lines usually refer to pretyped canned reports
These would include such templates like epidural steroid injections and such where you are just typing in patient demographics and the date of procedure, cataract surgeries, or whatever canned dictation the physicians have come up with so they can cut costs and not dictate. Make sure you are not always having to revise the templates constantly at no cost; otherwise, that is a good price.
I make 9 w/o spaces but I get every character - sm
on the page, regardless if I typed it or not, plus a cover page that is macro'd. However w/o the spaces I'd say I am out an average of $200 a month. Since you will not get headers/footers, it will probably be a little more. I try to template up as much as I can but only a handful of docs actually say the same thing every time. I figured it out once and I think the 9 w/o spaces equaled 7.75 with spaces. I get fairly regular raises though and with any luck get bumped up to .10 in the Spring (at least I am going to ask for it). You don't say how much experience you have, but if you do not have much I would go for it. I have been looking on an off for a while for a new job but am very limited as I have dialup (no DSL here, and most companies don't want satellite), so I am between a rock and a hard place. Any jobs I do find with dialup offer .07 cpl, unless it is real easy work I don't want to go that low. Make a list of pros and cons and go from there.
Why would a company pay by character when they also pay for spaces?

nm


65 character line with spaces
TIA
I think it is a 65 character line without spaces but doesnt that mean you have to type a lot more to
get your lines in so you really arent making 9.5 cpl in fact right. I am not sure I understand when you dont get paid for spaces how much you really lose from that. Is it 20% a report or what percentage do you lose. If a report is 100 lines with spaces then what do you really get paid for on those 100 lines without spaces. I think that is what I mean. I am just tring to figure out how much longer you have to work to get your lines in at 1000 lines a day without spaces versus 1000 lines a day with spaces. Seems it would take quite a bit longer.
Do the math. I am figuring on a 65 character line with spaces. SM

Getting credit for headers and footers or not, doesn't make much difference in the math.  It's simply not possible.  Even if you figure she gets 10 free lines per report for headers and footers, she still would have to type 300 lph for 10 hours a day and her hands would virtually never have to leave the keyboard!


Her pants are on fire!


I was referring to gross 65 character per line with spaces, sm
but again, it was very grueling, but possible. Granted, I had no life besides the keyboard.
In Word, take the character count (with spaces) divided by 65... SM
that will give you an accurate line count, but you'll have to write the character count down for each and every report before you finish and send the report.  I put a button on my tool bar that I just clicked to bring up the document counts and then I just kept a log that wrote down job number and character count for each report.  Then at the end of the day just add up the characters divide by 65 and you've got your line count for the day.  Kind of a hassle, but worth it in the long run.
Sorry- meant ඉ character line w/spaces!" - NM
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0.12/cpl, macros count as 2 characters, backspacing is given to us as 1 character. No spaces. Aut
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What the heck does getting paid by a 55 black character line?? Does this mean without spaces and doe
You just never know if this is a trick to somehow rip you off of lines. I am just very skeptic of it since I have never heard of anyone using this formula before.
depends if includes headers, spaces, one or the other, character line, etc.
nm
20-character lines.
it's the only explanation.

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These are 65-character lines,
Now there's an idea. The 30-character line.
My hospital uses 90 character lines.
nm
Are your lines 65-character, gross, or
other? Just curious as I do clinic work and in my area the going rate for gross lines is about 12 cpl, but more like 15-17 cpl for 65-character lines. I have heard (don't really know how reliable it is) that hospitals are charged up to the 22 cpl range. (I assumed that was on 65-character lines.)
1,100 65-character lines in four hours.
I was doing 1,100 65-char lines in four hours. Unemployed now and big nationals don't pay enough. Why do all the great accounts go to VR or newbies and I get stuck with ESL garbage?
Question versus gross lines versus 65-character lines....

I have always charged or been paid by 65 or 60 character lines or per letter or space typed, but have never been paid or charged per gross line.


What is the advantage of this?  If I were to charge 11 cents per 65-character line including spaces, what does this figure out to for an average line rate and how do you do this calculation? 


I'm wondering if it is financially beneficial for me to bill by gross line or to keep it the way I have it.  I do know some accounts will only pay per 65-character line, as this was the deal my first own account I recently acquired.  They were adamant on a 65-character line, but didn't specify with or without spaces and I personally would never not charge for spaces.


Thanks for explaining this.  I appreciate it and hope everyone has a speedy day.


what is the .065 cents per gross line equivalent to in 65 character lines?
Would it be about 8 cpl 65 characters or higher?
1 or 2 spaces @ end of sentences? I have Instant Text put in 2, but I have noticed
that after I upload them to the co. I work for, the extra space is being removed.  Do you think that that one little space at the end of each sentence would amount to a hill of beans over the course of a week?  Just curious what you think.  And before you ask, no this was not disclosed to me before I started working here, however, I made the grave error before being hired of only asking how many characters per line and if spaces were included. 
65 characters w/ spaces = ? lines
Anybody know any valid convertions?  I would really like to know how many characters w/ or w/o spaces 1,000 lines converts to.  Thanks for your help!
counting lines without spaces
If you want to get your line count of a document just go to style and choose numbering. It will put a number in front of each line. Go to the end and see the last number and that is your number of lines! Simple as that. You can do this in the document or you can copy and paste into a new document and do it there. This is as simple as pie.
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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Need to count gross lines only w/o spaces, sm
Used Sylcount free download but it expired.  Any alternatives.  Did not like Practicount.  Need to count gross lines only.  How do I do that using MS Word? 
Formula is: Characters PLUS spaces / 65 = lines. (nm)
nm
Gross line, also including blank lines because my line rate is so low. It all works out in the wash.
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What is a 55 char gross line compared to a 65-char line including spaces?
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IC, by line, 68-72 character spaces/line
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Instant Text # of advisory lines
For some reason when I try to change my advisory lines from 10 to 5 they keep linking to things with 10 or more lines.  Why is it doing this?  I just want 5 lines to show in my advisory phrases and lines.  Thanks for any help
Standard text lines are credited to you.
But there are many lines in the report that are either not credited to you or credited to you at a reduced rate. The Qualified Text is credited to you at a reduced rate.

So, in other words, many words on the templates are not credited to you at all. This is being touted to MTSOs as a way to increase their profit margin and thus cheat the poor lowly MT out of more dough. Crappy, isn't it? I do not know how they sleep at night!
65 character line versus gross lines versus pay by word

I am checking into other options for transcription.  Can anyone tell me how to compare all of these types of lines & also payment per word?  I know companies use different scales, so I wondered how they compare.  I have been paid on a 65 character line with spaces, but I may be making a change in the future - don't want to get burned.


Thank you in advance!


Quick question! Is 10 cpl with benefits at 74 character line better than 9 cpl at 65 character line?
Thanks
Canned

Did anyone every have one company where they totally bombed and another where they just loved you?  Been with hospital for 11 years and never had any problems, if fact, told by a passing through doctor, one of the best he's worked with.  My first national pt position let me go because my QA was low.  I have a lot of ESL on primary account but this company had a couple of docs that I could not understand at all even after looking over old reports. 


Sorry, I guess I need to get a little cheese with mine Whine.


Definitely canned air.
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Try some canned compressed air as
transferred from your foot get down in there.  Spray it good with the air and if something is in there causing it to stick.  I've used foot pedals (knock on wood) for 10 years.  I use the compressed air though to keep them dust/crumb free. 
canned transcriptions
I think I would ask the company if I can correct all the errors. I have done that with my employer and he is happy that I have fixed things. I can't stand to have things be wrong and have my name on them.
They used to not pay for spaces, but a poster here said they are getting spaces paid. Are there 2
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I used the canned air also or shake it upside down.
Then I take a damp sponge and wipe it down while unplugged. I have heard you can soak in water as long as you let it completely air dry before using but I've been afraid to do that. I will have to Google that one ;)
We keep a 2 week supply of canned food,

a Coleman stove, propane, water, etc.,  in our basement because we live in an area that is prone to heavy snow and blizzards, low temperatures, and we cannot always get out in wintertime, but I sure don't see any long lines of the politicians here pretending to help us. They would free their backsides so, thankfully, they stay out of our business and we stay safe.  I have quit sympathizing with those who know they are in the path of storm and do nothing about it.  The idiots in Cancun knew that area was directly in the path so now they moan and groan because they can't get out.  Too bad! 


As far as Florida goes, you go through this same thing several times a year, so you have been through the drill.  If you don't like the weather, move somewhere else.  Don't stand in lines with your hands out waiting for sympathy.


 


Semi-related tip: use the canned air on your footpedal too
mine went nuts one day not long after I started with a new job, I requested another footpedal and got it mailed out, and then that one didn't work, either. I got to looking and there was fur in both of them! So I keep the canned air close by and keep it blown out!
Buy canned air - much safer, quicker & cleaner!
nm
canned air is good but scares the * outta my cats!
We're talking heart attack city for all 3 of them!
If only they could ditch Brooke Burke and her insipid canned commentary. And those outfits. nm
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