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We had an account that went overseas that when we lost it

Posted By: not believing that on 2006-01-25
In Reply to: i'm not an MTSO, - sm

one of hte people said they'd be back. Hasn't happened yet and it's been over a year. I always wished they would.


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how did you get an overseas account in the UK?
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Is it possible some of the account work is going overseas. MQ does offshore you know.
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No, I lost an account to EMR

and of hospitals around here that have gone to EMR, no Transcriptionist is needed.


With VR and EMR, the VR automatically puts their dictation into the patient's record.  They could care less how it looks, their idea is to save money.


Lost my account

I am so upset. I have worked on the same account for 2 years now, ever since I started medical transcription. My computer has been giving me issues now on and off for about a month. This week I have not been able to work because of computer issues. I have spent $800 since December on computers having them upgraded and antivirus and more memory. It is constantly acting up for the last week and they had to reassign my work this week. They just called me and informed me they took my account and gave it to a MT who doesn't have computer issues. Like I chose for my computer to go on the fritz. So now I am a backup MT. I am so hurt that I had the bad luck to have computer issues for the last week and they take my work. How can I help that? I can't. Oh well. I think it is time to get another job.


 


This is true......I lost an account to EMR like this
and I'm almost positive the same thing is happening to my account that I do now. It is definitely spreading as more of the younger generation of doctors comes into the field. To me, this is more of a threat than work going overseas (I definitely don't like that either but I found that most clients that do that at least come back; EMR physicians do not).
Me too.. Lost major account
to EMR.. basically put me out of business. I could have "stayed-on" in house doing limited transcription and scanning for 1/2 the money. System was not very friendly to transcription, had to constantly switch screens, etc. would have really lost $$$ if I was paid by the line. Either way hourly/cpl, less money for me. I decided to just stay home and go with national. Hopefully I can hold out for the next 5 or so years, or else I guess I'm off to Walmart!
I stood up for myself and probably lost an account - oh well

This is only the second month that I have had this account but they thought that their bill was a little "high" as the doctor does not feel that he should pay for any lines that I have in a template or if the physical is mainly normal and so I have a normal template, etc.  I told them to try to find somone else that was cheaper that gave them the service that I did, with the TAT and quality.  This is a doctor that loves to rib off insurance companies and morally I have been debating about doing this account but felt someone had to do it.  But I told the NP/OM that with the time I spend in delivery and pick-up, paper, etc. I need to make this much per hour and that is about what I make.  This is the first time in a long time I have really stuck up for myself.  She said that their last Transcriptionist had been charging $5 a page and  I said fine I would compare that with my lines but it would be with 1" margins all the way around and a 12 courier font to define "a page" and low and behold it came out about the same as with my line count.   Anyway I am sure that they will begin to look elsewhere and that is fine, I wasn't looking for an account when this one came my way and so somewhere else there is something else.  But it made me feel good to stand up for myself and believe in my skills.  


Update - lost the account

Well they said today that they were going to investigate other avenues, appreciated my work but did not appreciate that I corrected her when she did not correctly spell Crohn's disease.  She is a PA and knows how to spell so then why did she specifically spell it incorrectly -- anyway am glad as their were a little shady.  She saw the patients, dictated as the doctor, and charged out MD prices instead of PA so am glad I am out of it.  But God gave it to me over Christmas, I was able to pay off one credit card and so it worked out.  Will enjoy the 6 to 8 free hours per week now.  Just thought I would let you all know how it came out.  


Patti


I lost a clinic account
to EMR. I had lunch with an old friend who is an ER nurse in Colorado and the ER changed over to EMR recently. So far that is the only department in her hospital, but she expects the entire hospital will eventually.

This is the touch screen type of thing. She says there is a computer at every station or bed. When they chart, it also generates the billing so more revenue is captured.

I would be worried if I was younger, but should be okay until retirement hopefully??
I know personally I have already lost 1 big account because of the new system and please sm
talked to my own physician yesterday about it. He said they have to be on-line within the next 2 years. I love my work from home MT job but I'm thinking of going back to school for nursing. Just checking if it has affected anyone else yet and if so, what are your long term plans?

depends on location, I know someone who lost a local account - sm
in Woodbridge, VA, was charging .12 a line (60 character line), got underbid and lost it after having had it for years.  Now in order to get more but look less, she bids at .10 a line but a 50 char. line....comes out to .13 if a 65 cpl.   You can't get much over .10 around here on your own which really stinks, or do some fancy accounting which in this case works.
Yeap, lost huge account to EMR, most CA doctors are now using it
After I lost my accounts, I went to doctors' offices all over Orange County, and most are now using EMR or going EMR. I lost a huge account with several clinics. They loaded up all of my templates, and off they went. Good luck.
I've lost a local account today that I have had for five years......

I cannot believe that this happened to me today.  I went into one of my doctor's offices this afternoon to pick up his tape for today.   I was given a tape and told that his wife, who is the office manager, wanted to see me in her office.  I thought nothing of it because she sometimes has extra things that she wants me to type up for her and we talk quite often also.  


She tells me that she just has not gotten around to talking with me yet, but  "tomorrow we will start dictating through a company over the internet".  I was blown away!  She said she wanted to give me a break and that if it does not work out she will let me know.   The whole time she was tell me this she was writing me a check as I had just turned in an invoice.   


My first inclination was to throw that #@%$ tape at her and say "do it yourself", but I knew that wasn't the "professional thing" to do.  I was thinking how could she do this to me, not even a 24 hour notice.  She handed the check to me, I snatched it and walked out. 


I have had this account for five years exactly (began August 1, 2000).   I have never took a day off, never raised my rates, never asked anything of them, and my work has always been the best possible quality.  I have been the most dependable person they have could had.   I have passed up other accounts because of them, and I always put them first.   Thank goodness I have other accounts to fall back on.   In our town, there is only one other transcriptionist besides myself, and we both have more work than we can handle most of the time.


Just thought I'd remind all those other MTs out there that no matter how good we are and no matter how much we try to please everyone we are still not appreciated.  I will never be fooled again.  No one will ever receive the attention from me that I gave them.  


Lost account of 28 years to Dictaphone because hospital believes it will eliminate all transcription
Curious if any of you are working for Dictaphone or Infomatics and doing an account out of Miami with mainly ESL dictators?  I was convinced I would not lose the account after a few days with VR. However Dictaphone is not using VR right away and will transcribe reports the regular way until they have a database. I am certain this hospital will never be done by VR. I posted a job on here about a year ago offering 18 cents per line to help with this account and not one person  accepted after hearing the ESL doctors we have. They are that bad.  Anyone else have this happen to them? Losing to Dictaphone  And we have had to do most of the work for over a month since they supposedly took over because their system is not working.          
ProScript Documentation Services does not send work overseas or employ any overseas MTs. (nm)

I was hit by all 3 that summer, I lost power, I lost work, I lost savings...but..sm
NEVER did my employer in any way imply or threaten or dare even mention that my job was in jeopardy because I could not work immediately following a trifecta of natural disasters! My jaw agape is not at your concern about working, but at your concern that you would lose your job because of it. Companies have to have a heart in some situations. You're one MT, your company won't go under without you working for a week or 2 or 3.
I recently lost 20 pounds. That means I lost 80 sticks of butter.

I doubt your brother has won more than he's lost. To win that much he's probably lost 3 times
So he probably has more bills than money. Otherwise the casinos would go broke.
What is the difference between an acute care account and a multispecialty account??..nm
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I've never had a problem switching from account to account.
The problem I had was being switched too soon. If I don't get one account spec solidly in my memory with QA feedback on mistakes before starting another, I get confused. The other problem I had with former jobs was inconsistent QA. One person tells you one thing, another person tells you another.

Lately, I don't have a problem with it. Right now, my binder has 8 account specs (some I've never had to use) and I'm picking up a new weekend job for a while. The terminology and report formats stay basically the same. It's just all those little preferences. LOL
Also, they could be done overseas..
I proofed Indian work a few years ago and they sound like similar reports--blanks, everything wrong.

For everyone's info, the clinic in town that outsourced to India still dislikes the quality intensely, after all these years, but still uses them because they are cheaper. Go figure.
overseas
The doc that I work for now used to use a service and paid 9cpl.
re:overseas
We could do this, but then we'd have a small choice of credit cards, cell phone providers, computers, toilet paper, paper towels, food in general, entertainment such as cable and internet providers, clothing, tires, and I could go on and on, but what would be the point? The simple fact of the matter is that this is widespread and there's no turning back on it now. Even in our industry we have plenty of overseas working alongside of us. The way I see it, these people have families to feed as well and want to make a living for them as well. I've worked with U.S. companies that employ both American and Overseas MTs and I have to say that they are more than willing to put in the time and effort to get it right. They are also willing to take English classes to do better. I just think it's time that we end this whole caste system everyone wants to push on the MT world. There is plenty of work to go around, instead of pushing them to the side, why don't we include them and help them become better at this job?
overseas
May I ask what company this is? I would like to work overseas as well.
overseas
Haven't decided yet! Maybe Spain
overseas
haven't decided yet! France maybe?
overseas

The system is not accepting the 3-digit password, after I write out my message, why not?


OUTSOURCE OVERSEAS
and you will be begging for work. get ready to brown-nose to get enough money to live on.

good luck. you could do much better.
They have to be using overseas employees...sm
So remind her that  while they claim HIPAA compliance, truth of the matter is that  once the records leave the US soil there's really no protection.
They use overseas labor.
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Has anyone ever lived overseas?....sm

A friend of mine is moving to Italy and I am really considering going with her.  Just wanting to know if anyone has lived outside of the US (not necessarily in Italy, just anywhere).


Thanks


Overseas posters?
I can't find anywhere on the site that prohibts off shore MTs from posting.
jobs overseas
Personally, I do not worry about this. There are plenty of companies who hire MTs purely in the US. For other jobs, just you wait, there is going to be relocalization of jobs/services, etc in the coming years. I already see/read about towns relocalizing. I would never consider going abroad for any major medical procedures. I proudly support my local medical team. There is probably a reason that medical care is cheaper abroad.

With the comment made in this article about importing physicians, does anyone wonder why medical costs have skyrocketed? I am sure a good portion of these physicians have come over here to make all sorts of money versus what they could make in their country of origin. I am sure they would not have left their country of origin if they were doing well for themselves.
Military Overseas

When companies state no overseas applications or solicitations does that include Overseas Military?? I have DSL and we have a US Post office here on base. Curious cause i'm about to start school and want to know it wont be wasted while we are stationed overseas.


Thanks!


Overseas outsourcing SM

I don't know where you have been for the past several years but a whole bunch of people are screaming bloody murder about this to their congressmen/women.  There are plenty of petitions being circulated to put a stop to foreign outsourcing.  Most MTs I know have not only sent letters to congress but have called the senators from their states to complain about this.  My friends refuse to see a physician who outsources medical records - and they ask up front who does the transcription and make it know that their records are not to be sent to a foreign country. 


There's lots of stuff going on.  Do a search on the Web and you will more than likely more than you ever imagined.


Don't kid yourself. The overseas companies are going in at 0.13 and 0.14 now. nm
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Overseas jobs?

Does anyone have any sources for info on overseas MT jobs?!  I have been Googling but haven't come up with a single MT position in Australia, New Zealand, Japan, or Costa Rica -- only Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Dubai.


Thanks.


 


never worked overseas....
If I could get up the courage to fly over the ocean I may have been able to answer this one for ya... :)

But I dont know why you wouldn't be able to take your work with you... you just have to have access to everything you use on a daily basis... Right now I'm away from my home away from home, visiting my sister (and new niece!!!) for Christmas and here I am working away... :)

Good luck!!! and how awesome for your son
Working overseas

If you worked for an American company say in Scotland all well and good, transcribing for U.S hospitals and the work contained in the U.S., BUT if you transcribe for British or European hospitals/doctors, the work contained in those countries, it is VERY difficult.  The spelling is very different.  I was born and raised in Britain x25 years and when I started working here in the U.S. I found the American spelling very difficult - although less characters per word.  British spelling adds a lot.  Just a thought!  Plus the accents are hard too.  They don't say period, they say full stop which sometimes sounds like part of the text, but you have probably already experienced that.  Good luck, it sounds wonderful.


They did not contract an overseas
company. The company they contracted with was sending it overseas.
Just because the records go overseas
does not mean the laws are being broken. Granted, they cannot be enforced, however, if the company doing the overseas transcription does not follow the guidelines, then something might be done. However, unless there are specific cases, you cannot say laws are being broken. I am sure their contracts state they have to abide by our laws.
It is more of a risk overseas. SM
If some company operating from an offshore country with a "store front" in the U.S., decides to retaliate against Dr. John Doe, and spreads 50 of his patient's medical records over the internet, how easy do you think it would be to track down the so-called contact (whose name cannot even be pronounced) for the transcription company who is nowhere to be found? HIPAA has now power to fine, penalize, or imprison any overseas operation because the HIPAA laws only apply here in the United States. IMO, there is a substantial safety risk in having medical records leave the country.
working overseas

Can a U.S. citizen travel while working for an American transcription company, as long as they have a legal U.S. residence?  Is there any legal reason not to hire someone who likes to travel and visit foreign countries while they work?  I'm not talking about off-shoring. 


 


Can anyone confirm that JLG outsources overseas?
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I find it hard to believe that the MTs overseas
experienced at MT, but that's just me. These companies are just trying to save money, plain and simple because people in those countries can and will work for peanuts.
Does Transcend outsource overseas?
Thinking of applying with them as an IC.  Anybody with any input?
Outsourcing doesn't always mean overseas, you
A physician who uses an MTSO for their transcription work, American or otherwise, is outsourcing. That practice has benefitted most of us, so I assume you just mean offshoring.

Don't you think that eventually foreign MTs will up the ante and start asking for more money? I do. Greed usually takes over and I predict it won't be long before they wake up and see that their services are worth more. If that happens, I think we will see less offshoring because the reason most companies offshore is the cost advantage. I've already seen some of the Indian companies requesting more, i.e., it used to be they wanted only 3-4 cpl and now they are saying 5-6 cpl. As an MTSO myself, I get quite a few emails from foreign MTs looking for work so I am just speaking from my personal experience. (I personally do not offshore and never will.)

There are some companies that offshore because they can't find enough MTs that want to work the graveshift and foreign MTs will gladly work it due to the time difference. That practice doesn't bother me as much as the companies just looking for cheap labor despite quality issues.
Good accounts are going overseas
How ironic!
Overseas outsourcing is here to stay

I've been reading some very interesting posts regarding off-shore outsourcing.  I worked as a supervisor in a large MTSO in the 1990s when this subject was being "bantered" around the office, but it was my mistake that I didn't start taking it more seriously at that time.


As I have seen transcription issues evolve over the past 10+ years, I can think back to a time when, in fact, we had lots of "visitors" coming to our office, looking at servers, etc. in what I quite naively thought were server upgrades.  Some of these so-called "visitors" were indeed of foreign descent.  I lived in the southwest at the time so there was a fair amount of "overseas occupants" and I didn't think much about it.  Now, in hindsight, it's plainly and perhaps painfully clear that this was the beginning of outsourcing.


One thing I will say upfront is the fact that overseas outsourcing companies employ smart and very patient people.  I don't doubt this very concept of $.03 cpl transcripton is very palatable to foreign entities where there is so much poverty.  I also remember reading in some of the transcription magazines around that time that doctors and nurses were quitting their jobs in India to transcribe because they made more money!  I laughed outloud when I read that, but I guess the joke was on us.   I also remember reading ads for medical editors in Saudi Arabia for $40-50,000 with a full housing allowance, but the employee had to sign a two-year retainer agreement.  One MT I knew took a job in Saudi Arabia.  I did hear from another MT who was writing to her that there were huge personal safety issues and she would be glad when her time was up so she could "come home."


If we want to know how persistent outsourcers can be, especially with medical office/hospital administrative staff making critical decisions without actual hands-on experience and think MTs are just "typists," just look at our current situation.  We in the USA don't seemingly have the patience to look at the broader picture and the dollars matter more.  Don't get me wrong but the spiraling out-of-control cost of healthcare has always been an issue and with more sophisticated scanners, research, etc. being necessary just to compete with the hospital/clinic across the street, dollars have to be taken from somewhere and voila! it's comes from  'discretionary funds' called MT.  There is only one very large medical institution still in his country who tried outsourcing in the beginning and when the quality of the work was so poor they wouldn't stand for it anymore, they cancelled the remainder of the "standard" contract and vowed never again to outsource whatever the cost.   To this day, they are still one of the most prestigious medical centers in the world and all transcription is being done in-house.


I truly believe there is safety in numbers and hope I live along enough to see a radical change from off-shore outsourcing to bringing MTs "bread-and-butter" home where it belongs!


Regarding US companies using overseas labor

Maybe we can start by not utilizing their services and getting the word out.


http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/popups/exporting.america/content.html


 


No, it does not. The call center is probably overseas
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