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What about mudder and fodder for mother and father?

Posted By: pc on 2007-09-19
In Reply to: You are not alone - Lillybelle

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I think I do now, but it used to his father - sm
If I would try to make plans, he would always say he had to see what his father was doing first because he might need help doing something on the family farm.  And this was BEFORE his mother passed away and I never understood it.  I know WHY he did it - loyalty and I think a sense of obligation - but I could never understand.  My feelings were in shreds on more than one occassion.  But things are much better now.  He's still there to help is father, but I don't feel like I'm running a distant second to him anymore.
my father tried it

My father signed up there but they wanted him to pay $2000 for food. I think it was for some kind of power bar or granola bar and they wanted him to buy $2000 worth. He said he did not want to buy them but they charged his card the $2000 anyway. Needless to say, he immediately withdrew his membership.


He went to Weight Watchers and so far, so good.


My father....

was in many ways a man before his time... My parents' marriage started out very traditional with my dad earning all the money and my mother at home having and caring for the babies.  However, my dad was the type who LOVED babies and little ones and would come home and feed or sit up all night with a sick child.  Slowly, the tables began to turn.  He encouraged my mom to get an education and she eventually began working (as an MT I might add) when I was about 12 (I was the baby).  By the time I was 19 of 20 my father was laid off at age 58 and my mother had become a department supervisor and made all the money.  My mother had private accounts and actually taught my father to transcribe, which he did until he died about 12 years later.  He did the paperwork and billing and delivering too.  That made him feel useful.  He would shop and cook and do the laundry and have dinner ready for my mom when she got home from work.  Talk about a complete 180 degree in a marriage.  My father was not perfect, but he was steady and dependable and you always knew that he loved you.  My husband is very much the same.


my father uses WW
He has diabetes and a heart condition so it is critical that he maintains his diet & a healthy body weight. So far, he has been really happy with WW and it really has been helping him reach his dietary goals. Good luck to you.
it sounds like Father, May I.....*tsk tsk*..nm
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Loss of father
To wimt: I lost both parents within 7 days of each other. I cried off and on for a couple of years. It takes time to heal and everyone is different. It always helps to surround yourself with people you feel comfortable with and you feel give you support. Plus, grief counseling never hurts--only helps. Good luck to you.
Katharine's Father
I was thinking the same thing about Katharine's father. They'll probably have to hold him up. All he does is cry whenever she sings. Imagine if she wins?
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all you men
out there!
I took care of my father
for last two years of his life. I barely had time to work because it became so time consuming taking care of him and two little kids. It was very difficult to get any help, and social services can only do so much.

I would think long and hard before making the move. How will you care for your mother if you are working full time, perhaps have to travel across town to see her, take her to doctor visits, and still take care of two kids? My Dad lived on the other side of my duplex so I was right there and it was still incredibly difficult.

If anything, I would advise moving in with her or maybe she could move to Georgia. Good luck whatever you decide.
The father was brought in for report of him saying this and now he is
released. I guess the "report" of the "report" did not pan out enough to keep him in jail. The prosecutor is not at liberty to disclose anything and has said so repeatedly. No professional has ever quoted one of the suspects directly and you know that. A report of a report of this man having said this is all I heard from a reporter.
I have both and even had a father; I love them all dearly!!!!

***  I just knew someone would have to be negative.  Everyone, everywhere has something negative to say about most anything.  I, quite frankly, enjoy life.  Guess what?  I even laugh at "women" jokes!!!!  I know my father, who died 35 years ago, would have found this very funny.  My brother is laughing with me now.  My son, who is a Marine, will have to wait until his return home to see it but, unlike some people, he does have a sense of humor and will enjoy it as it was meant to be. 


Do you ever watch any comedies on television or anything like that??  It is quite common to see "man versus woman" schtick" (spelling?) all the time.  Seems it has not been banned due to "political incorrectness".  Anyway, I certainly did not mean to offend you; that I stated before I actually wrote the 15 pieces of advice.  Thank you. 


Reminds me of my late father-in-law....
He totally controlled the money (he figured he earned it all, so why not) and doled out "household money" to my MIL like Ricky and Lucy Ricardo did.  This continued until he died 18 MO ago, so I'm not talking about a by-gone time.  Meanwhile, up until he quit smoking, he was buying 3 to 4 packs a day plus stopping at the bar every day on the way home from work.  He never did stop drinking and I can only imagine the money he spent on that over their 40 yr marriage, while she's trying to run the house on her "allowance" and she could never take a dime out without his permission beyond the money he gave her.  Sheeesh (eyes rolling).  Thank God it didn't rub off on their son or I'd be a single woman by now.
My 4 year old also behaves better than his father.

what are you going to do


please give your Father an ATTABOY....nm

Happy Father's Day to ALL including...nm

yes, Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there! (nm)
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The father just bought her a cell
and sent her a text message. She was able to send a message back saying, "I love you guys." I cannot even imagine the pain that family is going through or the other girl's family who was victimized.

The sheriff was even emotional and crying after it happened. It's really sad. I don't know if I could deal with that.

I spoke to the girl's father -
He then contacted the school but I haven't talked to him since then to find out what they told him.


I think the father of the killer should be shamed publically
instead of Natalee's mother.  The father of the boy is a lawyer.  He is arrested because why????????  That isn't normal if there is no evidence, nothing going on.  He says no body/no crime.  What kind of father would say that?  He is obviously not right in the head nor is his son.  They don't keep people in jail without some kind of evidence either.  And if my daughter was missing and the father of the suspect was saying things like no body no crime, I might get a little crazy too.  I would probably be over there kicking some ***, not just talking about it on TV.  Believe me, she is handling great compared to some. 
We had a weird happening after my father died...
He died in August and when we went to visit his grave just before Christmas, the grass was still growing back over the plot.  The grass had grown in the shape of a Christmas tree inside the rectangular plot of dirt over the grave.  We got some bulbs and decorations and laid them in the grass and took pictures.  Guess what, the pictures didn't turn out.  "dodo do do" (twilight zone tune)
My step-father got a kidney transplant

He was extremely happy to be off the dialysis and looked quite a bit healthier for a span of time (kidneys do things the plastic tubing just can't), but he only lived an extra 3 years and had to take lots of antirejection meds in the meantime, was in and out of the hospital a lot.


I agree with the person who posted below about talking to a physician about the downsides. Find out exactly what quality of life most transplant recipients have and how many extra years most of them receive. This is a big decision. It will change your life and probably in ways you can't fathom yet.


Wish I could give you better answers. It's so hard to watch people we love suffer.


My father is no longer living, but he was never a part

of my life.  He worked and worked and worked, and worked some more.  When he came home he sat, read the paper, watched TV and fell asleep in his recliner.  He NEVER told me he loved me until he was in advanced stages of Alzheimer's disease.   We did not get along at all and my mother always said we were so much alike that we clashed, but I don't agree with that at all.   My father was not a bad father, just wasn't a good one.   I am #4 out of 5 and I always felt I was the only one he didn't love, though I don't know he really knew how to love and probably did the best he knew how - wasn't good enough though. 


My DH on the other hand is everything my father wasn't.  


The boy's father was released after a short period of time.
So were the others who were thought to be involved.  You have very little knowledge of this case as does Mrs. Twitty.  Maybe you should just calm down and educate yourself on Aruban law and justice. 
My father left us when I was 3. Busy, I always wanted a family like yours. nm
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We're trying to get my father home due to health issues

My father has been at a federal prison camp for a little over a year now.  He's been sent to a local hospital six times due to heart troubles.  Before going in he had two heart attacks, stents placed, treatment for prostate cancer.  He's now also having trouble with his kidneys.  We are at our wit's end trying to get him home on house arrest.  It was a money/bribery charge (federal).  No prior record.  Can any one PLEASE help? 


 thanks


Yes, our father's were both truckers and knew each other. I know Terri & her sisters
quite well.  We also went to nearby schools. I've been to the zoo once and Australia is just gorgeous. If I ever lived anywhere else it would be Australia. Terri took us around to places that I would have never seen otherwise.  She is a lady in the fullest sense of the word.  Sadly, I never got the chance to meet Terri's hubby as he was away when we visited. It blows my mind that they were married 14 years. Time really flies and it doesn't seem like it was that long ago that they got married.   
I can't imagine any father not wanting to make sure his flesh and blood
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My uneducated but street-wise father had a term for people like that--"Smart Dummy"
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Yes, as mother's we should take the
responsibility. Whether they were married or not is not relevant. Everyone makes poor choices in life. Everyone, married and unmarried, might need help at some point in their life. What difference would it make if my sister in law was married? The courts wouldn't enforce the order anymore than they are now. You say you are all for going after the father, what difference does it make then? They are not held accountable by your government, but you think it is okay to speak against any woman needing help only momentarily because they made a poor choice in life?

I'll give you another example. My mother who was married to my father for 10 YEARS had to get a divorce and take all 4 of us kids with her. My father after 5 years of MARRIAGE started beating her. He then put guns to my brother and my mom. He raped my sister many times before she was ever not scared enough to tell someone. She left as soon as she could get out and took all of us with her. Our government that she paid taxes into her whole life did not once honor the restraining orders, did not honor the court order for child support, and would not provide my sister with counseling at no charge or reduced rate. Do you know why? Because a member of the family committed the crime. Even though the man told my mom that he is aware that most all sexual assault cases occur in the family, but according to the procedures laid out to them by our government, you cannot get assistance if the act occurs in the family. My mother worked 3 jobs. We had to get her out of bed with a broom because she would come up swinging. She drove us all many, many times to counseling and did not get sleep to go to her next job. If our government would have pursued the child support order, if they would have offered her free counseling for my sister so she was not having to pay out of pocket, just a little help for a short period in her life, then she would not have had it so rough, or us so rough during those times. I am sorry, but it is our responsibility to take care of ourselves. On the other hand, our dollars do not go back to our people in the right way. If you think they do or you think that the government should not be held accountable for their lack of assistance or overseeing of the assistance they do give to make sure it is used properly, you are fooling yourself. If you think it is about all for yourself, never have to depend on the government at all in your life for anything, then give us our money back and we surely could do that.






Mother's Day
My birthday is on Mother's Day this year. I got myself a present, a ticket to see Rob Thomas in concert in PA. I usually get a combined birthday present/Mother's Day present from my husband and two daughters.
My mother's day
First thing when she got up, my 5-year-old asked "Is it Mother's Day?"  When I said yes, she went to her school backpack, pulled out a little brown bag that says "I love mom" on it, and took out a little sculpture of herself that she made at school. My 18-year-old son spent half the day sleeping, a few hours at his girlfriend's house, stopped at home and gave me the top half of a carnation. I think he pulled it off of his girlfriend's mom's bouquet or something.  My 21-year-old daughter called at 8 tonight and said "Happy Mother's Day. I didn't get you anything. I can get you a card though." I think she basically called to let me know she works tomorrow because I watch my 1-year-old grandson when she works. Oh yeah, my husband and I got in a fight. I'm so close to tears. I can't wait until everyone is bed so I can have a good cry. Am I being too sensitive about the older kids? I don't expect them to spend a bunch on me but they both work, and a $5.00 little flower, an annual or something, or pitching on a hanging basket or something, or even a card..whatever..would have made my day. I don't know. Maybe it's just PMS.
Mother's Day
I'm sorry about those 2 self-asorbed older kids. Just think how much the little one loves you - when a 5-year-old remembers Mother's Day, that's special!

As one of the other posters said, remember this on your kids' birthdays. Turnabout is fair play. If you keep giving to them and doing for them, they will get the message that they can treat you anyway they want.

Personally, I would call them on this, but that is just me. I wouldn't be watching that grandson, I can tell you that.
Mother-in-law
Oh gosh! Don't even get me started on mine --- that is another book! lol. Oddly enough the one thing she does approve of is me being here for her son and our children. She has opinions (her own-- not always bright) about everything else I don't do the way "she" would.
my mother-in-law always said
it costs nothing to ask... so give it a shot... susan
My Mother said it does. She said it did not last sm
for her too long, however, it has been almost a year for me, maybe even longer with these palpitations etc. Some days I am great, others not so great. I was walking with a neighbor until she got pregnant but has had the baby now and I think exercise does help the whole situation.
Thank you so much. Please keep my mother in your
prayers.  She is a very sick lady. 
mother ill
If I were you I would move her to Georgia. I would just tell her she needs someone to care for her and I didn't want to uproot my family.
Like a mother, eh??

My mother.
She was the transcriber (that's what we were called back then) for a 10-man (yes, they were all men) multispecialty group. She needed help, so the summer I was 16, she dragged me in kicking and screaming and made me help her. I could type and spell and I had passed high school biology; what more was needed?
I just saw mother on Dan Abrams

It sounds like her Aruban attorney is embarrassed by her outburst, in particular calling the two brothers who were released criminals.  They are saying it was "an emotional outburst" with no information to back up the accusation.  In the meantime, Beth Twitty did not forget her shiny pearlescent eye makeup, under eye cream and false eyelashes for the press conference in which she had the "emotional outburst" asking other countries to disregard facts that the Arubian government had no basis to keep these brothers in jail and released them and not accept these "criminals" (emotional outburst no facts per attorney) in their country.  


Someone should take Beth (eyelashes) Twitty home and get her a nice antidepressant and a Southern Comfort cocktail.


 


 


Saw my mother-in-law's couch LOL

not her mother's choice
Glitter eyemakeup? False eyelashes? What channel are you watching? Maybe you should put on a pair of glasses, and maybe then you would have seen her crying. I think the arubans investigation stinks and so does their goverment.YOUR THE LOON, NOT BETH TWITTY.
many people can be a mother sm
but it takes someone special to be a mom! Don't sacrifice yourself because of her.  Take a break, you're worth it! God bless you!
Toxic mother
I had to distance myself from my mother too. Don't feel bad. Think of it as doing something nice for yourself.

Now that I have grown daughters I have a problem I don't know how to solve. I don't want to be negative or judgmental towards my children, but they dress in sloppy, slutty clothes and I overhead some people joking about them because of it. I want to tell them to be more presentable but I don't want it to sound like I'm criticizing them or rejecting them. What do I do?
Mother volunteers is NOTHING new at all....
I was a child in the 1960s/early 70s and in grade school almost ALL mothers were at home.  I remember half the school walking or riding their bikes home for lunch.  We always had a room mother and mothers were involved in all sorts of things like PTA, fall carnivals, library, etc.  However, they probably weren't the overbearing "my kid can do no wrong" type of parents we have today.  In my childhood the world was different, you could ride your bike, skate without body armour, climb trees, and fall down and bust your arm in your friend's yard and your parents didn't sue them (happened to me at age 9).  It's just a different worlds now.
I still use the old standby my mother always used--
Vick's under the nose every night before bedtime. My sinuses are so clear the following morning. I don't even need cold tablets anymore. I sometimes use it during the day, too. Helps with that dang drippy post nasal drip and tickly throat that makes me cough.
With the help from a mother who is a nurse. nm
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Don't do Mother's Day as birthday is May 3rd

Kind of combine the two.  Dinner tomorrow.  Yee hah!  No dishes.


Hubby and kids (that are still young enough to be home) cook and  do the dishes on mother's day, so it's always been a nice week for me.


AND I'm a grandmom too..........  X 3.


Don't ask.     Still going uphill so far, though not far from the crest.  


My mother went to school at 47 to become
an RN. She is so glad she did it and I am very proud of her. She is now working in the OR and is still going to school to get her Masters so she can specialize. She turns 50 this year.

GO FOR IT!!
A Mother's Day poem
Don't think of her as gone away
Her journey's just begun
Life holds so many facets
This earth is only one
Just think of her as resting
From the sorrows and the tears
In a place of warmth and comfort
Where there are no days and years
Think how she must be wishing
That we could know, today
Now nothing but our sadness
Can really pass away
And think of her as living
In the hearts of those she touched
For nothing loved is ever lost
And she is loved so very much.

Anonymous

 


that's right - get off your mother's computer..sm

Some of us are  probably old enough to be YOUR parent.....


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