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clarification-had no formal training in....

Posted By: hands-on and no formal training....S/M on 2007-07-13
In Reply to: it's how many got hired 30+ years ago.... - hands-on and no formal training....N/M

working for MDs/transcription but came fully experienced into the medical and then MT field by working years prior in secretarial/typing/administrative assistant work....


not like I came into the MT biz with no training whatsoever...hence, I needed to clarify my original post...


 




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I don't have certificate or formal training and
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Never had any formal training here and never had a problem getting hired.
The only training I had was on the job. I started in a multi-physician OB practice, then went to the clinic pool when the docs sold out to the hospital clinic management, then into Hospital Radiology and finally acute care.
I've never taken a course and never had any formal
training, just kind of fell into it by accident and turned out I was good at it.   That was nearly 20 years ago though.  I know people who have gotten on-site positions in a doctor's office w/o having any schooling/prior experience.  If a company offers you a work at home position w/o the above I'd be very cautious. 
If no formal ed., would probably need mentor.
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I saw this happen in MQ office while training. Supervisor was supposed to be training but
account was behind so she did transcription while she collected salary for "training" me. Of course I asked others for guidance rather than bother the furiously typing supervisor. I don't know if she cherry picked but she definitely double dipped into the MQ payroll.
Go ahead and file a formal complaint. Then it is on record this dog is a hazard and if it happens
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Black IS proper evening formal attire. Sounds gorgeous.
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there is a world of difference between MT training and NP training
honestly, I am in nursing school and have lots of health care experience as a paramedic and medical assistant. I think you can relax and leave your family's health either in your mother's hands or their physician's...
clarification

The original poster asked a question, which I answered. The examples I gave of actual reports have nothing to do with demonstrating my superiority, nor were they meant to make fun of anyone, but were simply to show the types of problems I personally encounter on a daily basis (all from MT’s with 5+ years experience in radiology, and including one supervisor) .  Expanders are great when properly used, but I think there comes a point when one becomes to dependant on technology and complacency sets in, causing avoidable mistakes.  Spellchecker’s are also wonderful, but what is the point if it is not being used?   


I am well aware I am not perfect, nor can I think of anyone that is.    I currently read an average of between 400-600 reports a day and I’m sure I occasionally miss something.   I care about the quality of the work that I do however, and my first priority is to each patient when I read his or her report.  It’s not just another medical record number, it’s someone’s mother, father, sister, brother, son or daughter and they deserve the best I can do, and their medical care depends on it.  I’m not rich, hell I’m a month behind on my house note right now due to an emergency, but it can’t be just about the money, if it is, it’s time for a change.


Clarification please
When you guys are taking about SE - you just mean an employee and an IC is the independent contractor -- correct? 
Clarification
It is not my understanding is that making MT an apprenticeable occupation will REQUIRE all new MTs to become apprentices before they can be hired. If that were the case, I would oppose it myself. My understanding is that if MT becomes an apprenticeable occupation, that will provide incentives to employers or others to start apprenticeship programs and hopefully provide some assistance to the MTs who will go through those programs. Certainly the concept of apprenticeship for MT is a great idea and very much needed to provide more opportunities for MTs to get the experience they need to get a good job. How we go about making that happen is, of course, where the crux of the matter lies.

I can tell you from personal experience that not all graduates of the "top 3 schools" are ready to work. In fact, I would say that is the exception rather than the rule.

When I hear people criticizing apprenticeship/externship programs that pay new MTs a small line rate while they are getting experience, I have to ask, what's the alternative? The fact is that many new MTs cannot get a job, period. That means not only are they not getting paid, they are not getting any experience--the experience they have to have in order to get a job! So to me, the opportunity to get experience at ANY rate of pay is better than nothing at all.

Jay
Clarification
I just wanted to clarify my comments on the subject in case anyone things I'm advocating your storming in the office with guns ready. LOL When I say "force her hand," I mean do your job and billing as usual. IF she's getting ready to end your contract, make her be the one to do so by keeping your end of the deal, rather than you walking out on something you've worked hard at. Also, when I said I'd be tempted to mention their vacation/inability to pay you, I meant just that. I'd be tempted. (I was merely venting.) As someone said, this is a business situation. I'm sure you'll act appropriately, especially if you happen to come face to face with the doctor, who seems to think highly of you. There really isn't much you can do besides business as usual and then decide what's next should things worsen.
Pay clarification
I should state that the MTs in question do not work in the hospital but rather as independent contractors for a national company. We are paid by line count.
IRS clarification.
See link below for differences between IC, employee, etc. Hopefully, this provide information to those on the board who have questions regarding this issue.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html
Clarification
My friend said at work at the hospital, things were pretty much just that, work, where you could ask the doctors, other staff questions.  They took bus trips off the compound to go shopping and such, and that is when you had to wear the burka.  You could not speak or make eye contact with a man (unless he was your husband), once they left the compound.  I think she worked for an eye hospital.  At work, you had to be covered at least to cover your elbows with your shirt and of course no skin at all showing anywhere else.  My friend said they paid for your nice apartment, and all you had to buy was your food, so you could save most of the money and bring it back.  She said it was not for everyone, with the strict rules about male/female, etc.   I am still looking for Nellie.  Hope you are well.
A little clarification. sm

I consider a line 65 characters with spaces.


Clarification
Sorry...I failed to mention that I have the WP 5.1 documents saved to a flash drive.  I am trying to search the flash drive for a last name, for example, through Windows, but the documents are WP 5.1 documents.
This is for your clarification.

It hosed me financially and she had the gall to tell me she wasn't responsible for my financial situation. When you are the one holding my paycheck, you are.


The statement above is made by the poster.  It is simply stated in other posts that the MTSO paying late is not responsible for this particular poster's financial situation, and this is true.  No one has stated yet that the MTSO should not pay on time or an MT should tolerate it, but the fact remains that it is not the MTSO's responsibility to plan an MT"s finances.  I feel sorry for the sick child, but please let's not make excuses.  I know plenty of people with sick children that still financially plan.  Come on - I think this is all out of context here. 


for clarification
I could clearly hear the patient in the background. She spoke English. her son was also trying to interpret for the doctor repeating things like throwing up etc. If a doctor can't understand that - then English classes are necessary. This was an emergency clinic, so she had no where to go apparently at the time she needed to be seen. Personally i would have left.
You are so right. Thanks for the clarification.

Clarification please
Your printer usually prints in the font that you are typing your document in, what exactly do you mean??????
Clarification
No. I have done MT for 15 years but STOPPED it approximately 2 years ago. I should clarify that.
clarification

Let me clarify.......I'm finishing up my MT school.  I already have the BS degree...


Thanks!


Clarification.
FlashType is proprietary software owned by MTStars.com and it's Owners.

We in all respects along with Source Code etc, own the software legitimately.

We advise all those who are claiming that software belongs to them should follow the legal recourse (if they have problems with software ownership) rather posting messages on boards.

Thanks,
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Clarification
The SR/ASR that my company is using is not on the client end. The clients dictate as normal. This software we use will listen to the recorded dictation and then spit out a report for us to edit.
CRUELTY CLARIFICATION

To the multiple posters below, regarding the thread on farm animal cruelty.  First of all, I believe you. Second of all, me and many like me don't have access to video and/or cannot watch the video.  Yet, we still want some facts. I was not able to pick up fact based on the thread.  Here is what I found out -- VERY INFORMATIVE by the way, and I appreciated reading it -- but there were still questions in the air. Can someone please CLARIFY, by way of simply stating the facts, what is going on with each of the following animals, so that we, AS CONSUMERS WHO MOSTLY SHOP AT BIG CITY SUPERMARKETS, can make an INFORMED CHOICE based on these facts:


1.  Chickens.  Know they live their lives squashed and get heads severed off via rotating razor blades.   True, false, anything missing?


2.  Veal calves.  The cruelest fate of all (besides french geese for fois gras or however you spell it).  Tiny crates, water deprivation, light deprivation, no straw, no way to move the extremities.  And how are they killed?


3.  Regular calves, and cows for meat.  How are they killed - really?  I think the general public thinks they get a humane bullet in the head.  Is this not true?


4.  Dairy cows.  Their fate?  And aren't they treated a little better (fresh air, etc.) for dairy vs meat?  Please inform.


5.  Pigs.  We know that they eat, we know they are dirty, but assume that they, too, get room to roam, and are killed with a bullet BEFORE being cut up.  Is this true?  If not, how different? 


6.  Anything else we need to know about?


So very, very much appreciate a WRITTEN answer to those of us who have no access to / cannot go the video route.  BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.


For: clarification for Kate
I was referring to working as an IC for a service. Some services offer IC, SE and employee status positions.
1099 clarification
The person who paid you, need to have the 1099 post marked no later than 01/31.  The person who paid you needs to supply copies of the 1099s to the IRS no later than 02/28.  Do no confuse these dates.  If you utilized (mind you not employed) ICs, then you too need to have their portion fo the 1099s post marked by 01/31 and the portion that is to be filed with the IRS by02/28. 
clarification on outsourcing

What I meant to say was they outsource a lot of the dictation to India.  Should have clarified that.


Thanks for the clarification and additional information.
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Clarification - I did not mean breast exam sm
was required, only that an exam was required in NY for a minor to get a work permit. Personally, my kids have gone slightly over 12 months in between physical exams, and I was assuming that this girl's exam was probably overdue. Therefore, she was getting more than just a routine "Stick out your tongue, let me listen to your chest, you're okay to work" type of exam solely for the permit and instead had to have a more thorough exam. That being said, I don't care how old my daughter is, as long as she is a minor, I will be in the room with her during an exam. Same thing for my son.
Clarification: 1200 lpd x 5 days/week...
1200 lpd x 5 days/week =
MQ: $0 incentive
Spheris: $24 incentive/week

Ok, I didnt post this, another JWA did. just wanted clarification.

Need some clarification on C-phone dictation and some websites for urology sm
I will be covering the transcription for a urology clinic.   I was briefly told that the doctors dictate to a C-phone that  goes directly to a base office.  Then the file is e-mailed to their office where they can access the dictation.   Does this sound right or are they accessing the file from the base office through FTP and then downloading it.  Also, doesl AOL work OK to access files or do you need another FTP provider.  Not sure how they are doing the work, but any help would be appreciated.  Need some good website for urology,  Just want to be prepared.   Always ask the experts!  Thanks. 
I just went through training and they
told me that MQ itself does not pay for spaces. I was trained on DQS and again it was told to me during training when I asked about that and the answer was, "No, DQS does not count spaces as MQ does not pay spaces."

?? I'm all confused now.

Training (sm)
To tell you the truth, and I'm not dissing the trainers, but I really would be sure they are passing on correct information by asking your transcription supervisor.

When I was trained, they told us to disable some of the features of the platform, like the capitalization after the period and the thing that corrects your text if you type 2 capped letters. These are probably some of the best features of the program and I, nor any MT who wants to produce as much as possible, would dream of disabling them.

So... I really wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into somme of the info they give out. To be sure, get a second opinion. :)
You will need a LOT more training
than you have to be a successful transcriptionist, or even a mediocre transcriptionist. Simply from reading your post, it is apparent that English is probably not your first language. You will need to improve your English-language skills considerably before you will be employable. On the basis of your post alone, I would not hire you. I would not even bother to test you since you have so little training and your English is so poor. You need to take a GOOD transcription course, not something offered by one of the matchbook-cover schoools and certainly much more than you already have taken. Self confidence is all very well and good, but simply believing you can do something is not an acceptable substitute for good training. You do not yet have the skills you need. It is, of course, unlikely that you are going to believe any of this, so to satisfy your own curiosity, just start submitting applications to transcription companies. One or two might let you take their test. Your results should be an indicatino of just how far you have yet to go to be properly trained. Good luck to you.
MT training is not enough
it is just a foot in the door. The real training comes in by doing various dictations from various clinics/hospitals. Every doctor talks differently or uses different terminology.
MT training is not enough
it is just a foot in the door. The real training comes in by doing various dictations from various clinics/hospitals. Every doctor talks differently or uses different terminology.
OTJ training
I had on the job training. I trained for about a year. I am very lucky that I have a family member who is in the business who was willing to train me. She actually talked me into it. I have now been working for seven years as an MT for her and another company.
My DH is in training for this job.
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Training
Just another word of advice from somebody who has been there many, many years ago. Please remember that you send mixed messages when you switch back and forth from underwear to diapers. This confuses them. I did what this other poster did -- make it a game, praise, praise, and more praise. In the end, he will get the idea. It does take perserverance on your part. Set that timer and then have a race to the potty. The winner gets to use the potty -- and we all know mommy never wins this race. Good luck -- he will be fine.
Training at MT
So how do you know when you've received proper training? I have finished a program with a local college but when you compare the training hours versus other colleges its way lower? How can I be assured that I am trained enough to be able to do a MT job? Any suggestions????
Training VR
That sounds wonderful.  However, this sounds like something that the doctor would set up on his own.  I am looking mainly for something I install on my end, train, edit, etc. from here.  I have a small account with three people, and maybe a couple more coming.  They would not want to be bothered with doing anything different on their end.  I wanted it for my end to speed things up for as they expand so I can keep up. 
But are you in training?

I notice the first poster spelled clarity as "clearity".... A very easy third grade spelling word.  Are you coming to the job with experience of any kind or do they know ahead of time that they are training from scratch?  Are the editors paid well?


Because training an inexperienced person takes a lot of time and sometimes it's not successful. 


BOS training
About the BOS AAMT guidelines. I am relatively a newbie with 11 months experience. When I started with my first job and I had been trained like you said to strictly follow AAMT guidelines. But when I got a job oh was I in for an awakening. They wanted things done the way they had always been done and didnt go strictly by AAMT. The acute care account I do now is the same way. I have been penalized for doing things according to AAMT. But every company and client has their way they want things done and you have to learn to follow them. Little things like AAMT second edition says only use disk now do not use disc anymore. Well I got penalized for that. They want disc used when referring to the spinal cord no matter what AAMT says because that is the way they have always done it. That is just one example. But yes knowing AAMT guidelines is good but it doesn't always give a newbie the advantage.
As far as training, you get what you pay for.

training
Just to let you know - they will take you off of training before the two weeks is up if you don't need it anymore. Mine only lasted three days but I had overlapped training with my last two weeks at MQ, so when they told me I was off training early I told them I had to finish up my last two weeks at MQ and I could only give them 200 lines a day for the rest of the two-week period since I had made arrangements around the two-week training assumption. They were fine with that.
More training
I have been doing transcription for 9 years now and am not making the lines or money I need to.  Anyway, there is a local school I was thinking about going to that trains in coding/billing and they have placement assistance afterwards.  I have heard it is next to impossible to get hired without already having experience in billing/coding.  They do have federal loans/grants to help you pay for the training, but the costs is 7,600; seems awful high to me, but if they can get me a job paying better than transcription, might be worth it?  Then again, I was thinking about just trying to get a job in medical records at a local hospital going in as a medical records tech.  I know I must sound crazy, just trying to figure out how I can bring more money into my house.  Thank you for any advice you can give me.
on-the-job training
Trust me, if you have no medical work background that involves terminology you would be totally lost doing MT. It's really like a second language. The only on-the-job training I've ever heard about was someone who worked in a medical office or a hospital records department for a long time and was taught MT while they were there. I know of no companies or hospitals, small or large, that would hire you with no experience AND no training/schooling to go straight to work doing MT. There are some that will give you a chance once your schooling is done if you test well.
Right on. Using VR = training it, and training it =