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middle eastern accents

Posted By: in a trance on 2006-04-05
In Reply to: whataboutmiddleeasternaccentstoo?...lol..nm - Very very funny thread!!!

I had one yesterday for that sang and hummed most of the report. He dictated in a sing-song voice that made me think he was casting some sort of spell. In between words and sentences he would say, ahhhh, ummmmmmm, and then speed ahead with the sing-song again. And it was all in a middle-eastern accent. It was an extra long report and awful. I was so jittery by the time I finally finished.


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Ever wish you could take your post back after more thought?  I spent alot of time thinking about this topic of ESL/accent/ignorant dictators, and I guess I would like to clarify now.


I understand that if you listen to the same dictator or dialect repeatedly, you learn to understand it, and there are several that I have become quite familiar with.  But, my point was that for the $2.00 +/- per page that I get paid, I choose to listen to someone who is willing to take the time to speak with courtesy and clarity into the microphone.  I understand that at some point I may not have the choice, but while I do, I choose to work for someone who gives what they expect.  They expect clear reports, I expect clear dictation.  And they get paid ALOT more than I do to hold up their end of the bargain.


On the same token, for the hundreds of dollars that I pay out in medical expenses every year, I choose to give that money to someone I can understand and that I am relatively sure understands me, without the language barrier.  I don't want to chance a compromise in care because of a misunderstanding in communication; there are enough other things that can cause a compromise in care.


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Hope I haven't I haven't worsened my "foot-in-mouth" disease, or made anyone else even more upset...


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I have a middle easterner that
has a lisp (sounds like his tongue is 4 inches thick) and speed dictates. He is Pakistani. It is indescribable and I sometimes feel like I'm slipping over the sanity brink when I type him.
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YES SIR BUDDY!! It is time to cut out the middle man.

Most MQ offices are made up of 75% statutory employees which actually means "contractors".


If the majority of transcriptionists were men, this industry would not be running like this. 


No man would stand for his client to be telling him "I'll pay you what I want, in a way I want, and I'm not going to tell you how I come up with the amount."  Nope! it would not happen.  And it's ludicrous nationals have gotten away with it so far.  MQ is the biggest perpetrator of this practice, but most nationals do it.


They want us to be "employees" until it comes time for the risks of transcription to be accepted, and then suddenly it is all on the shoulders of the at-home transcriptionist.


I'm sick of it. 


The reason a person is a contractor is because they are willing to take on the risks of a job.  But for that risk you pay greatly.  Nationals are not paying greatly.  They are paying us as if we are employees. 


As a contractor we should expect to receive 3 x what we would earn an hour as an employee.


Now tell me, are you getting that working at home? didn't think so


Any middle-aged MTs out there struggling like me?

I can only wonder why there are not more support groups for the Baby Boomer mid life females who surely are suffering with the fun of the "change."  This is very interesting to say the least! 



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The Shire, Middle Earth. nm

Convinced the middle class.
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