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to ANIMAL ADVOCATE

Posted By: romey on 2005-08-09
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Please note my response to your query waaaay below where the original thread started, again thanks for your interest. 


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To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please:

Just copy and paste into your browser (with whatever video player you have)...


Do not get side-tracked with your feeling about peta...


One is narrated by Alec Baldwin.  (I have mixed feelings about peta, but these videos do not lie, and if you research for yourself you realize the government more and more allows this hideous behavior to SAVE money - again, it is all about the money). 


I have watched it once, and half with my eyes closed.  Call me whatever you like, but I sobbed at the cruelty. 


The other is about a (huge) grocery chain we have here in WNY.


A few months ago I became a vegetarian to lose weight...but still ate eggs, cheese, some poultry. 


Since the day I watched these videos, because of my conscience, I have not touched a piece of meat or poultry. 


I refuse to contribute to this inhumanity, no matter how it is justified...


1.  http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=meet_your_meat


2.  http://www.wegmanscruelty.com/downloads/Trailer-WegmansCruelty.wmv


If there was one, I would belong to the humanitarian party...forget republicans, democrats, etc. 


romey and animal advocate...here are some nice pictures...

http://www.myanimalart.com/pages/galleryliberation.html


posters you can buy, as well...


see post below "To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please" (nm)
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devil's advocate
Devil's advocate, you need to quit catering to the little whiners and let them stand on their own two feet once in a while and realize that life is not ALWAYS, ALWAYS about them.  You sound like someone who caters to their every little whim and likes to protect them from all the "meanies" of the world, and very likely you would think that included me, because I'd like kids these days to be more independent and not so reliant on their doting, catering, overly protective nannies -- oops i meant mommies.  Yeah you have a point, but it's a small one, and you are missing the BIGGER point, which is what the OP indicated by having an independent vacation.  Get real.
MTStars position is clear. We do not advocate the offshoring of
American private health information. This has nothing to do with products made overseas and sold in stores, etc.  This is about how services are treating American medical records as a trade commodity when they should not be. 
Since you have recently become an advocate for these "well-educated" professionals....
please justify the 20 minutes I had to sit and listen through all because the doc left his hand held recorder on. I actually had to sit there and listen to him urinate AND defecate! Immediately after hearing the toilet flush, I could hear the door open and then several footsteps that led him to meet, greet, and converse some more. I was more appalled at the fact that such a "well-educated" medical professional didn't care enough to wash his germ infested hands after his restroom break. Unbelievable.
Is rad a whole different animal (sm)
when it comes to transcribing it? I would like to expand my specialties, but have never done rad before. Any info would be appreciated! Also, can it be learned just by doing, or would I need more thorough training, i.e.; more schoolin'?
animal update

i am the OP on thread below re CRUELTY CLARIFICATION and just wanted to say thank you to all who responded .... have not recently come across a such a large, and largely POLITE - WOW!!!!!! -- and informative group in a long time.  this information will stay with me for a long time and i plan to share it with others.  did not know how ignorant i was.  am not by any means a bleeding heart.  it's a tough world and you have to be tough -- but the way we apparently treat these animals in the year 2005 is PATHETIC, just pathetic, and there is simply no need for it. 


to those who say 'but this is a consumer-driven industry," yep you are right, but you know what?  consumers like to be INFORMED.  we don't like to feel that someone or some entity is trying to pull a fast one on us, and i STRONGLY feel that if every child in america -- and the child's uninformed parents and grandparents -- KNEW the real deal, the pressure would be on IMMEDIATELY and things would change in the industry faster than martha stewart's gonna get out of her ankle bracelet.  Before anyone says Yeah but there goes the economy, well i don't think so because if i knew that i could get chix at the store from happy chickens versus what we are 'offered' now, as well as happy cow meat (look at how successful the California dairy industry has been on their little ad campaign, hmmmmm?) vs what we have now, i'd be willing to pay more.  not double, but more!  i think anyone except the poorest of the poor would, too.  and the same government that is subsidizing the cruel farm animal conditions could subsidize the poor for their better quality meat, instead. 


anyway, those are my thoughts.  i really really appreciate all of you smart people telling me something i didn't know, and that's no bull.  great big kudos to all of you who kept the thread polite, too.  'night.


OT: for animal lovers
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/finnegan.asp
why keep your animal on a chain 24/7

Going off topic from your cat post for a minute... I never understood that..especially with dogs. I think it is cruel for a dog to be chained 24/7 with someone who will rarely walk it.


As far as your cat, we have had outside cats since I was a little girl and they always came back. In fact, I had one (an old "barn cat") that would leave for months at a time lol and come back.


 


Keep your hopes up and don't stop looking!


 


Animal question...sm

I was always under the impression that cats had to be at least 6 months old before they could be "fixed".  I was on the SPCA website for our area last evening reading their info and it said kittens older than 6 weeks must be spade or neutered within 6 weeks of adoption.  Isn't that a little young?


Just curious.


Animal contacts
If you are in need of a veterinary ophthalmologist, it is best to check with your local vet to see if there is one in the area.  Animals do not wear contacts for the obvious reasons.  Instead, they get lens transplants from donor animals that were healthy when euthanized (sad I know).  There are also Doggles sun glasses that dogs wear.
If you are an animal lover - then please don't take Prempro - sm
I worked in a gynecologist's office for 8 years. It was beyond dispicable when the Wyeth drug rep would come in. This was at the time when TV shows were always doing the "hidden camera" things - and of course, the pregnant horses, abuse, catheterizing, etc. This also came at a time when drug reps were no longer allowed to use company money to take docs on trips, expensive dinners, theater tickets, etc. Needless to say, our Wyeth rep made a bundle off of Premarin and Prempro and to make up for all the media hype, she was going to all the gyn docs and sending them on trips, spa packages for their wives, nice dinners, etc. And the docs kept prescribing it.
Agree...no animal has to suffer for me...
I have been using the wild yam - so far, so good. ?
fellow animal lovers/MTs

boycott Iams pet food - they have been charged of horrible animal cruelty in testing their food, see web site below. 


 


www.peta.org/


Call Animal control

Okay then, should you kill every animal that scares you be it a dog or - sm
or a cat....does not make sense. They are animals, they just want to be left alone. Some people scare me sometimes, should I go out and shoot them? People need to be a bit more tolerant. I am not a huge fan of snakes either but I will never understand the killing of any animal unless it is for food or if the animal attacks.
well, I am NOT obsessing over animal rights! sm
What exactly are you doing to make the world a better place? Discussing the killing of dogs in another country sure does help, yeah, uh huh...get over yourself
All animal lovers - check this out. Made me cry.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.snowball.ap/index.html
There is a natural order in the animal world
that does not include mankind. Those animals which are debilitated, old or very young become food for other carnivorous animals. It is population control and also keeps disease at bay as the animals carrying disease are attacks, killed and taken out of the picture. Also, stops bad blood lines as those animals with hip dysplasia from in breeding or the weak and runts are also food for the natural predator.


Thank you for not making fun of me. I just wasn't sure which part of the animal it was and what
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not sure about you, but we have several wild animal care and education centers...
The best way to start is to volunteer.

We have like Messinger Woods and Hawk Creek around here, like animal sanctuaries, where they have owls, eagles, deer, all sort of animals they need to take care of. You can always visit one and ask questions. I would love that, too, only I can not get my boyfriend interested. I would love to even volunteer.

Sounds funny, but what about a zoo...same thing, you can volunteer at first, see if you like it, and I believe those positions offer decent pay...?
I would spend whatever it takes to keep my " animal kids" healthy. nm
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report on companion animal pet food ingredients

http://www.api4animals.org/facts?p=359&more=1


http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html


Check these out if you want to learn more, shocking!!!


re: report on companion animal pet food ingredients
The book "Food Pets Die For" is an excellent. I have been feeding my goldens and Shelties Innova since 1996 or 1997. I now feed Canidae Platinum as it is lower in calories. They all did quite well on both dog foods...shinny coat, bright eyes...in other words, they are healthy looking. No preservatives are in either food so it does have a shorter shelf life than the regular dog kibbe.

My dogs also have marrow bones every night. Some of my friends feed a BARF diet (bones and raw food) only, but I just could not keep that diet up on a regular basis.

A good magazine to subscribe to is the Whole Dog Journal.. www.whole-dog-journal.com/ it is like a "bible" for any one who is interested in the natural way to care and feed dogs. I believe there is a Whole Cat Journal, too.

Usually years. Were you given a used one, full of animal hair, dust, or
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I'll be watching Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet!
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That sounds like an episode of Animal Cops! I'm glad it worked out in your favor. nm

Its not the animal lovers fault about abortion and abuse of innocent children, it's the fault...
of our government to allow such a law. The innocent dogs being killed over the so-called rabies roundup vs. shortage of "beef" have no government to help protect their rights to live so the humans have to step in and protect their rights and the humans should protect the human's rights as well to live, but when a government passes laws, etc., you can only fault the government; afterall, they have the final decision.