"Drive the American Economy into the dirt and then present socialism as the only way out!"

• When is enough....enough? - Froggy went a courtin
  • Alter and abolish. sm - LVMT
    • Do you know what states? - Backwards typist
  • "Drive the American Economy into the dirt and then present socialism as the only way out!" - Bill Ayers
  • When they have to cough up "we are bankrupt." - Aunt Louise
    • We were bankrupt in September ང - Mrs. Bridger
      • So? Even if you feel this way, it is okay - that Obama is making it so much worse?!!!!!nm
        • How do you know it is worse? We should do nothing? - Mrs. Bridger
          • The markets would correct by themselves if given - Backwards typist
            • What Government must do to save capitalism - Mrs. Bridger
        • Mrs. Bridger would never admit that. She's - Aunt Louise
          • Admit what? Your rhetoric? - Mrs. Bridger

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Nope, let's spend a few million and buy new furniture for homeland security and a few million more to buy hybrids for congress. 

Can they not deduce that keeping corporate America from offshoring jobs will actually create more jobs, thereby lower the unemployment rate, and put more money in American's pocket for them to spend?  Cut all tax cuts given to companies for offshoring and give the tax cuts to companies to strive to keep jobs in America?

And here's another V8 moment -- how about we buy American?  Maybe increase tariffs on imported goods to discourage American companies from importing so much crapy and thereby necessitating said crap be sold at higher prices in an effort to discourage Americans from buying imports? 

The ONLY way to help the American economy is to employ Americans and buy American!  It's that simple!

and I'm proud of that too.  I think we pretty much are side-by-side on the issues, Sam. 

Just for the record, you can be a mutt and still be DAR.  I am.  It just means your ancestor fought in the Revolutionary War.  I'm also a Daughter of the Confederacy.  In both cases we do more than sit around sipping tea and singing "How Great We Are."

....and you obviously are not able to follow simple rules of courtesy and good manners in addition to the rules of this board.  It seems your need to deride, disdain, mock and make fun of the liberal posters on a liberal board is something that you cannot control.  You might wish to ponder at some point why you feel the compelling need for cruelty.  It does not win us over, but rather is a very poor advertisement for your far right-wing beliefs.

As far as who I am, I am the same as every other poster - anonymous with a made-up moniker.  It is NOT a good idea to post our real names on a public forum and I would advise you or anyone else against it, unless you have an extremely common name. 

as being right and more knowledgeable than anyone on this board about almost everything that you address; much more important than *keeping things real.**   You want all of us to make note that you are right, more informed, more well read, more educated on just about everything that is discussed here...OKAY, you got it!!!, Enjoy it.

I still believe my friend, not because the cost of gas in CA is really that important, but because she is my friend and I have no reason not to believe her and even more, she has no reason to make it up, we were not discussing anything remotely related to energy or conservation; it was just a passing comment on her part as we drove past the local Chevron. But it seems to be quite important to you so, as I said, I will defer to you and all of your many resources in the future. No prob.

There hasn't been a SINGLE PRESIDENT willing to address the borders.  I wish Bush would get off his duff about the border too, but if he did put a military clamp down on our border, you'd have a huge uproar from the civil liberties camp.  You can never make everybody happy. 

As for spending... Most Democrats never met a dollar they didn't want to spend.  Wanna have your hair stand on end?  Read a synopsis of The Big Dig in Boston, a la Kennedy and Kerry.  Talk about a money pit at the taxpayers expense.  If only it were a perfect world, but it never will be.

he is not even President yet and his campaign and followers are practicing big-time intimidation.  That reporter in Florida had the guts to ask Biden a hard question, the campaign says no soup for you!  Cancelled the rest of the scheduled interviews.  Said they would not be given access in an Obama administration.  A maxed-out contributor to Obama's campaign ordered a background check on Joe the Plumber...just an average American who asked Obama a hard question.  People have been threatened when they say anything negative about him.  What are these people going to do if they get REAL power?  Food for thought.

Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.

So it's okay to consistently call Obama a socialist and not Palin?  Do you even look this stuff up or is that just you being Mavericky?

An economics professor at Texas Tech University , Lubbock , TX said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The majority of that class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.
 
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged, everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else.

All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder to succeed the greater the reward but when a government takes all the reward away, no one will try or succeed.

if you're going to make a statement gt don't beat around the bush.  Just come right out and say it.

I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.

Here's you link expanded.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

1.  Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. 

2.  a:  A system of society or group living in which there is no private property.  b:  A system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3.  A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. 

Notice that socialism is predicated on the concept of collective/governmental ownership of private property.  Here are a couple of links for you.  Looks like Obama is pretty much into private ownership.  The list below is of title to various economic stimulus plans.  They pretty much seem to be centered around free enterprise concepts.  Now show me your links where Obama has indicated abolishing private ownership and replacing it with government collective ownership, if you don't mind. 

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/

“I believe that America's free market has been the engine of America's great progress. It's created a prosperity that is the envy of the world. It's led to a standard of living unmatched in history. And it has provided great rewards to the innovators and risk-takers who have made America a beacon for science, and technology, and discovery.  We are all in this together. From CEOs to shareholders, from financiers to factory workers, we all have a stake in each other's success because the more Americans prosper, the more America prospers.”— Barack Obama, New York, NY, September 17, 2007

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership

Plan to Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud. 

Create a New FHA Housing Security Program

Create a Universal Mortgage Credit

Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry

Mandate Accurate Loan Disclosure

Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures

Close Bankruptcy Loophole for Mortgage Companies

Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund

Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services

Invest in our Next Generation Innovators and Job Creators

Double Funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership/Job creation

Invest In A Clean Energy Economy And Create 5 Million New Green Jobs

Create New Job Training Programs for Clean Technologies

Boost the Renewable Energy Sector and Create New Jobs

Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies

Raise the Minimum Wage

Expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit

There are many more examples but I just got tired of cut and paste.