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57% obama; still voting for McCain

Posted By: cesspoolmagic0_0 on 2008-10-02
In Reply to: This test actually did help me to figure some things out... - MTPockets

Some things like abortion, death penalty and guns really aren't as important as my taxes and his spending of my taxes.


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There are other choices. I find Obama and McCain equally offensive, so I am voting for Ralph Nader.
Bob Barr might also be a good choice.
Many repubs voting for Obama in my experience..OR NOT VOTING ..only
only a few stragglers left, like the 26 percent who don't hate Bush.

Most people voting for Obama are voting on emotion...sm
You may be the exception.



All that matters is hope and change. At what cost, my friend, at what cost, will your hope and change come at.



He will try to change the very foundation of this country, the constitution, and our very way of life.


If I wanted that, I'd move back to Russia where some of my ancestors came from.


I can recognize socialism and Marxism, even if half the country cannot.


They only care for hope. And change.












Yes...I'm voting for McCain.

From the beginning, I've always known I would not vote for Obama.  His plans will not work.  He will destroy small businesses with his taxes causing loss of jobs.  His plans of taking from the rich to give to the poor will only enable the low-life scum we have in this country to remain lazy and worthless.  His associations with certain individuals and his membership for 20 years to a church designed on black power and the hate of whites........I cannot trust this man to be the commander and chief.  I do not agree with his plans for healthcare.  I do not agree with his extremist view point on abortion.  I do not condone gay marriage.  I cannot under good conscience vote for Barack Obama.  If we elect Barack Obama to be the president, we will sorely regret it. 


So bash me as you will.  Obviously, from posts below, this is a support Obama political board and should anyone differ......OMG....you should be thrown off of the board.  You all have been sucked into this mainstream media love affair with a man that we cannot trust, a man who doesn't have the experience, and a man who promises change that he cannot bring.  The one thing I can agree with Obama is this.....his campaign does give me hope.....it gives me hope that enough people get their heads out of their butts and John McCain wins this election and becomes the next President of the United States of America!!!! 


Go McCain & Palin!!!! 


I'M VOTING FOR MCCAIN
he doesn't condone KILLING BABIES!!!!!!
I take it you are voting for McCain.
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I am voting for McCain because........sm
1. I am against the FOCA.
2. I am against gay marriage.
3. I am against taxing the upper income bracket in order to redistribute that money to the lower income bracket.
4. I believe that McCain's 20+ years of service in the government and his leadership abilities and character as demonstrated by his actions as a POW give him more experience than Obama and that Palin's experience as a mayor and governor in Alaska give the Republican party's candidates the experience needed to lead this country.
5. I do not agree that Obama's past associations are what he makes them out to be. I believe that consorting with known marxists and, worse yet, actually seeing out marxist professors to learn at their feet is likely the single most dangerous part of who Obama really is.

There are more, but these are the most important points that make me favor McCain over Obama.
I'm an independent, voting for McCain. I have
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Voting for McCain too, even if I have little hope of
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If us McCain supporters were voting
purely on good looks.......there would definitely be something wrong with us because McCain ain't pretty.  LOL!  He has yellow teeth, that swollen cheek, and he can't move his arms.  So obviously looks have nothing to do with our decision to vote for McCain.
I am voting for John McCain because

he is for smaller government and less government spending.  He has more experience with foreign policy.  He has been in the military and knows first hand what our troops go through.  He won't raise taxes during an economic crisis.  He won't tax businesses more which will help them survive and be successful therefore creating more jobs for Americans.  He wants alternative energy sources which (once you get the crazy freaks who are environmentalists to shut up) will create even more jobs for Americans and keep money here in the USA instead of giving it to people who want us dead.  I also in good conscience cannot vote for Obama because of his beliefs when it comes to abortion and gay marriage.  I also believe that when it comes to party politics, John McCain will stand up to his own party if he doesn't see eye to eye with them and I just feel that is something Obama will not do.


This is excluding other feelings I have about Obama, particularly his associations that people refuse to see and acknowledge.  One radical association is one thing, but Obama has many and I've always been raised to believe that birds of a feather flock together.


Well I had every intention of voting for Mccain
but when I walked in I all of a sudden saw the light and I couldn't control my hand. It went straight to Obama's name!


LOL Just Kidding. Of course I voted Mccain! I don't like to kill babies! :)
Well I have a brain and I'm not voting for McCain. That to me is a no brainer.
I guess I could go and pick out all the negatives about John McCain (there are plenty) while putting Obama on a pedestal and parading him around as though he is the second coming of Christ. For pete's sake. Looks like it took no brains to write this one.
Me too, and this Independent is voting McCain-Palin.
Was before the speech. Nothing changed. What is great about her is that she is everyperson. You can see her as your neighbor, chatting across the breakfast table. Regular people can identify with her. She is not a member of the "Washington cocktail circuit." She has been there, done that. She is a true reformer...thinks that politicians should not have planes, chefs and chaffeurs on the people's dime. I am tired of elitist politics as usual. I think she will have a very positive effect on Washington.

That being said, she is the #2. McCain has it hands down as far as national security is concerned. He won't tax us into oblivion, which will not help the economy, it will just make it worse. You cannot continue to put ALL the tax burden on the people who provide most of the jobs in this country. That makes absolutely no sense.

He has what she lacks; she has what he lacks. Win-win.

Definitely voting McCain-Palin. THAT is the change you can believe in.
And you my dear are one of the top reasons I'm voting for McCain
Backwards thinking is those people like yourselves who won't admit that your candidate has flaws. Truth is he has more flaws than McCain. - you know is it too much to ask to get his name correct. I know people think its cute to put Mc in front of other words, but the guy was a vietnam war hero. He deserves the respect. Otherwise we can go on down that road and start putting names at the end of Obama's name (Ono, Obrother, Oliar, Osocialist, etc. The names could go on and on), but at least the conservatives are respectful of the candidates.

As for his age, then you can say do we realy want someone of Biden's age to be one heartbeat away from being president, after all anything could happen to Obama. (don't go down that road unless your ready for the mud).

Obama is a radical. Sure he wants change - but change for the worse and for everyone else except he and his 1% rich friends. I'm sorry but I don't want to live in a socialist country where our health care is now been socialized. I had it with being in the poor house the last time we had a democrat president. Truth is looking at Obama is more like voting in Bush again. Obama and Bush have agreed on stuff and this bail out plan is one of the biggest. The people who own Obama are the same people that own Bush. The same people that are telling Bush he better fix it because they want their money are the same ones who are running Obama telling him he better vote for it. If your going to link anyone to Bush you should link Obama. McCain has always been in the middle. You can stop spreading the lies that they voted the same cos they didn't. McCain has gone against both dems and pubs.

So irresponsible is voting in a new guy with no experience who is going to raise your taxes, socialize our health care, all while trying to convince us is the patriotic thing to do by having the government steal our hard earned money so they can give to the poor less advantaged individual. So now instead of working 60 hours a week to make ends meet you are going to have to work 80 hours. Cripes, when are you going to sleep? Let alone any relaxation time. Under the Clinton years my tax bracket was over 40% and even that wasn't enough cos at the end of the year I had to take out a loan to pay the extra $2500 that I didn't pay throughout the year. Each year I kept having them take out an extra $40 per paycheck over what was normally taken out and I still got socked with having to pay extra every year.

You want someone who is going to destroy the military so our country will not be safe anymore like Clinton did, then by all means vote in Barack OBush
Glad to hear you are voting for McCain!
I was referring to the fact that Obama supporters cannot accept the truth of his policies, they just want to ignore them and argue. Ignore the message and beat up the messenger. The issue is not about how the OP paid her employees, it is how Obama's economic plan is going to change her business.
Voting McCain, and still a Hillary supporter...nm

I'm voting McCain partly because he is the lesser
of two evils.  I am not voting for Obama because I am completely pro-choice and completely against gay marriages.  I know people who have had abortions and I know who people who are gay.  I hold nothing against them, but I can't with a good consicence vote for someone who believes these 2 major things are okay.  I am by no means judging anybody for their choice of lifestyle.  I personally just think it's wrong.  Also, being of the pentecostal faith, I am happy that Sarah Palin (also of the pentecostal faith) was chosen as his running mate.  I'm simply voting with my conscience. 
My main reason for voting for McCain because

1.  TRUST. Don't trust O.


2. TRUTH. He is more truthful than the O. I didn't hear him waver much from what he has been saying through the whole campaign, while O has changed his mind a few times.


3.  AMERICA. He believes in this country and its freedoms. O wants to curb our freedom.


4.  "MAVERICK". He does cross party lines and buck the system. O will vote specifically with the dems all the time,,, and I really hate the word Maverick.


5.  SAFETY. He will keep us safer. O would rather talk. Talking gets you nowhere with the radicals in the world today. The radicals give their word and the next day will kill.


6. I believe he will TRY to cut government spending. This one is iffy since it depends on who runs the house and senate, but I believe he will try his darndest to get this done.


There are so many more reasons why I chose McC and those include those in the below posts.


Voting for McCain-Palin. Not reading any more hate
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Voting for McCain doesn't make you a republican
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2805&name=Bush-Family-Bankrupt-Companies
I couldn't agree with you more!! I'm voting McCain for the same reason. nm
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really, and you are voting for obama? then he is going to take...

from you too. DH and I aren't voting for him because of the taxes he is raising on the 250K an up. You should be worried too if your income is in that range like ours.


With all due respect, I am voting for Obama, not his

Barack Obama addresses issues that mean the most to me.  Simple as that.  His wife seems to be a caring mother and caring human being in general who is intelligent and well educated.  I think those are great qualities for a first lady.


Obama inspires me with his speeches.  He reminds me of JFK in that way.  He won't fly on private jets because his vote has not been purchased by any large corporations, and he does not want to give that appearance.  In other words, I do not think he has been corrupted by money and greed, and in Washington that says a lot!!  When I look at the big picture he is my #1 choice.  Go Obama.   Sorry, couldn't resist the cheerleader! :)


Not voting for Obama either. Will write someone in instead. nm

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Everyone here knew you were voting Obama
Your phony posts have been full of crap from day one.

Every single post you've made here has bashed Republicans and praised that spider monkey obama.

Perhaps MTs who can't find a job STINK AT THEIR JOBS!!!! If you don't have work, do't blame the Republicans. Get some education and fix the problem yourself.

Stop beggining big government to fix your own shortcomings!!!!!
My reason for not voting for Obama...
he is going to raise DH and my taxes. Yes, we make a very good living through having a good work ethic, not living above our means and working for everything that we have. We have never had to rely on the gov't to give us a handout and we don't expect one. We put ourselves through school with loans that we paid back, we pay for our own health insurance, we paid for daycare when the kids were little, we didn't expect the gov't to give us a thing; we were taught early on that you work hard to achieve your goals and we have. I don't need a president telling my DH and I that we have to "spread our wealth" around to those less fortunate than us. WE decide who to give our money to and when. There will be on incentive to work hard if Obama is elected; laziness will be rewarded. We shouldn't be bailing out big corporations at all, nor should we bail out every homeowner who bought more than they could afford and now expect help. While there are some circumstances that do merit help such as medical reasons or job loss, most are due to financial irresponsibility on the homeowners part. The American Dream is out there if you work for it, but Obama will make sure if you acheive it you must carry someone on your back who doesn't deserve it.
I am not voting for Obama. Are you really that ignorant? nm
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I hope you voting for Obama, did you?..nm
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Feel the same and wont be voting for Obama. nm
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Color blind here and voting for Obama. However, sm
I heard on the news today that people saying they will not vote for him because he is a Muslim (he is not) because it it politically incorrect to say they will not vote for him because he is black. I think that no one on this board will admit to not voting for him because he is black, the Bradley effect is alive and well I think.
I agree - I'm a democrat too, but not voting for Obama nm
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obama's voting record on taxes
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/tax_tally_trickery.html
I'm voting for Obama. That's what I'm telling the pollsters.
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Obama is superliberal by his voting record....
well documented.
And I am likewise not surprised you are voting for Obama. (nm)
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I am a lifelong Democrat and this makes me happy, I am not voting for Obama sm
I honestly DO NOT care what color his skin is! I also don't really care that Sarah Palin doesn't have a dingle dangle between her legs either. These things do NOT matter.

I would not vote for Obama because as far as I am concerned, he thinks he stands for being a minority. We are headed into another Depression or at least recession. Education in this country is a sick joke. The housing market is crashing. On and on. It is a LOT of gloom and doom and I can't see where Obama stands on ANYTHING. Milquetoast all the way around.

I am not exactly a McCain fan. I met him in 1976, not so very long after he returned from Vietnam. I was a kid and he had a profound impact. I am NOT a Republican, I DO NOT like their platform and I am NOT a conservative...but by golly I will vote for him. I think he can do the job and I think he has ideas. Some of them are wrong to be sure, but he HAS SOME.

As for Sarah Palin, she is not afraid of much I suspect. She wasn't afraid to bring a Down syndrome child into the world and commit to raising him. She had young ones at home, but that didn't stop her going up for office. Fearless and gutsy, brave and standing behind her convictions, such as no abortions...yes I can respect her even if I don't agree with her.

I looked at a picture of her and I saw someone who will likely BE president, and not the VP in the fullness of time. I saw a REAL woman, not a fake, not a politician. Can she be president without making mistakes? No, but no one else can either. She knows what it is to run a household, so yes I think she can run the country. A woman can tell you it is just the same, only bigger and that isn't important to please all the children all the time, but to get the job DONE.
Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html
just as i hope African American's aren't voting for Obama for that reason!
NM (i suppose that means "no more"? or something) im still a bit new to the board!
Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. sm
The 2 main choices are horrible. They only offer a continuation of the status quo. Nothing on bringing the troops home (now not 5 years from now), no sound monetary policy, reinstating our civil liberties, etc. Third party candidates have better platforms. People should be voting principles over party, or you deserve whatever you get.
I want change. Chump change. I'm voting for Obama as far as the pollsters go.

Obama is change you can believe in until you have to take it to the bank.


Our jobs have been offshored until now because of greed.  Under Obama and his taxation of small businesses, they will be offshored not because of greed but because of survival.  


You could make a difference for our country by not voting for Obama, but instead, if you vote for him, you are selling out to deception.  You are embracing a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, a liar, a cheat, and someone who legally cannot run as President of the U.S., much less the Illinois senate.  But, you make your choice.  You believe the consumate liar and his lies who sat for 20 years under the teachings of a black racist preacher filled with hatred for the U.S., whose association with Bill Ayers is recent and documented down to the fact that Ayers himself wrote Obama's best-selling book (best-selling in the eyes of far left liberals that is), who is a documented member of the socialist party, whose friends and close allies are extremists who not only bomb innocent people and are unrepenetent but who intend to eliminate (kill) 25 million Americans who they cannot "re-educate" in communist ideaology (gosh dog it, those dreadful capitalists), who refuses to hand over a certified copy of his birth certificate and educational records (my goodness, don't you have to provide your birth certificate to any number of entities who want to know if you are legal, i.e., social security, DMVs, etc., and your educational records would show if you had received aid as a foreigner and in 1963 would have shown you were a negro instead of an African-American which Obama's falsified record shows, please speck up on history), and who thinks Joe the Plumber is so stupid not to realize that if he wants to achieve the American dream, he is going to achieve it only if he lets Obama take what he makes to give to those WHO WILL NOT WORK.  I'd like to see you, liberals, give a share of your 7.5 cpl to those who don't work as hard as you, but then with Obama, that's what you will have to do.  Don't be fooled by his rhetoric that only those making over $250,00 will be taxed.  We will all be taxed, and there will be no incentive to work for any of us because we will all have to give up a piece of our pie so those who do not work can have a piece of our pie.


Here is the dividing line, folks.  We are at a crossroads in our history.  The Lord Jesus puts it this way, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and there are many who go in by it."


Choose which gate you enter, the wide or the narrow.  It not only determines your eternal destination, but it determines the destination of this country.  If anyone here calls themself a Christian and can vote for Osambo, I daresay you are a liar and cheat just as he.  One cannot be a Christian and vote for a party and a political candidate who is in total rebellion to God's Word.  That is a fact, and if you think any differently, then you, too, like the Obamanation, call God a liar.  May He have mercy upon your soul.  As He makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust because He is no respector of persons, we will all suffer as this country is destroyed and our Constitution that guarantees our freedoms is trampled just as Bill Ayers is pictured standing upon our flag in total disrespect, and we will thank you liberals that we are all in bondage, reduced to third world status, just as the Israelites were in Egypt.  Only Obama ain't no Moses but a Muslim and has no favor with God, and there will be no one to lead us to the Promised Land coming from the Democratic party. 


 


Between McCain and Obama

Do you think either candidate is more "real" than the other? Is one of them truly a "what you see is what you get" sort of person, or is one of them liable to turn tail and be the opposite of what we see now?


Thoughts, opinions, comments?


I had hoped to include Hillary in my list, but I guess that won't be necessary now. Bummer.


Obama/McCain
I think this whole politics thing is amusing.   I believe people are fed up with the politics of the White House and where this administration has brought us in 8 years, Iraq, threatening Iran, many enemies in other nations who used to be friends, etc.  Obama is accused of not knowing much and McCain of being too old to run.   I think maybe both are true.  I am waiting for a debate between these two men to see if I will even bother to vote, because in MHO all politicians will lie to get where they want in office.   All I do know is that this country is going in the wrong direction and needs to change quickly.    That is why I believe a woman should be in the White House.  No Hillary did not win, but there needs to be a strong woman in there to run the country and straighten this horrible mess out, which includes global warming, health care, aide for elderly and food for the poor and help for the poor.  We need to concentrate on our country more to help the poor/sick/elderly, and stop the oil companies from making such huge profits while we decide on food or gas for the week.   
Obama vs McCain
Not in any way to make light of John McCain's service to this country.  If being a Viet Nam POW qualilfies anyone to be president, maybe my husband should consider running.  No?  Why not?  He has the "qualifications."  We are, or should be, electing a leader of this great nation, not a war hero.  Perhaps J. McCain has integrity and other qualities but I see nothing that makes me want to see him be our next leader.  I can say the same about Obama.  My personal opinion, we don't even have a candidate that I can support as the lesser of the evils.  Having always been registered a Democrat, I  have changed my registration to Independent.  McCain will bring us 8 more years of George W. Bush and we can't afford it.  Obama will bring us........well, who knows?  I believe his slant is more toward African-Americans rather than plain old every day AMERICANS.  I don't care what color he is, if I really believed he would turn our economy, energy, SS, Welfare and the list goes on, around I would vote for him in a New York minute.  Unfortunately I think he is saying what the American people want to hear and McCain..........well, his platform seems to be all about HIM and the time he spent as a POW. <sigh>
Obama/McCain
Take away McCain's military service...no more or less than thousands of other men who are not running for office and thus usually don't even like to talk about their war experience.... and there is not a whole lot of difference in the two men.  BOTH have an agenda and NEITHER has anything to do with putting country first any more than George W. Bush (or Bill Clinton) had an agenda that put country first.  Otherwise, we wouldn't be in this mess.  Well...maybe all of them would put country first right after themselves and their cronies.
Obama, no McCain, no Obama, no McCain

That is how I have been going over the last couple months.  I just don't know any more and frankly I'm getting tired of it.  I voted for Obama over Hillary, then was a strong supporter of Obama.  Heard some stuff I didn't like so I switched to McCain, then heard some stuff and switched back to Obama, now with the economic crisis and what the democrats have done, I am looking towards McCain again.  Let me explain why (please take pitty on me and don't flame me too bad :-), but with that said let me tell you why.


I feel that Obama can speak better than McCain.  Gotta give him credit for being an eloquent speaker, however that doesn't mean that his ideas are right for America.  I'm learning about his voting record and the programs he will be pushing for, and if I wanted to live in the type of economy Obama wants if he is elected I mind as well move to Cuba or another country that is socialized.  Yes he understands our economy but he's making all the wrong decisions and we are going to be further in debt.  I just found out today that 700B dollars is not a figure they need.  They made that up out of thin air.  They need close to a trillion dollars, but they were afraid if they ask for a trillion it will raise suspicion so they picked 700B out of thin air.  And that money will be pocketed by them and then they'll need more.  Kucinich said today where do you think we're going to get 700B from?  We'll get it from banks.  And we'll give it to banks.  And then more faux money and debt and loans will go out and we will not be any better.  And this is what Obama is going to approve.  Obama does not care about people like you and me.  He is for the 1% of the rich (him and his friends).  I don't think he is qualified to make any decisions about our economy.  And Pelosi and Franks should be fired on the spot!  We should remember as a democratic congresswoman pointed out that we have enemies both foreign AND domestic.  That means here in our country, and as far as I can see they are the democratics that are destroying our economy.  NOT ALL DEMOCRATS.  I wanted to make sure I made that clear.  There are plenty good democrats who know this bill is wrong and are voting agaist it - good for them, but there are the other ones (along with some republicans) who are out for themself.  We need a strong leader to lead us in the direction of bringing our economy back up and I believe that person is John McCain.


Second, I don't feel safe with what Obama is proposing to sit down with our enemies and have a nice big group hug and everything will be all better.  That's not the way it works and McCain understands that.  I feel safer with McCain in there on foreign policies and the ability to keep our country safer.


Biden - Don't know much about him except he's been in the senate a long time, which is good because Obama is fairly new so he would be big help.  Personally I like Biden, so have no quams with him.  I think he can put his foot in his mouth enough if you get him talking long enough.  It also doesn't help that he was even saying Obama is not qualified to be president, but time will tell.


Palin.  She's better than a lot of people are giving her credit for.  I know your probably saying pleeese, but put your hatred towards her aside.  She has a lot to learn, but so does Obama.  He's had an 18-month lead on her, and with help she is learning fast. I heard the leader of Pakistan tonight and he said after meeting with her she was intelligent and he thinks if McCain and Palin are elected she will do just fine.


I like her resume and knowlege of the economy and plans for getting us back on the right track better than Obama's.  BTW - I did watch one of her interviews and she did quite well.  She was very intelligent and articulate in what she was saying (completed full sentances throughout the whole interview, finished her thought processes, etc), but then again she was being interviewed by someone who treated her with respect and didn't try to pull any of the "gotcha's", or look down at her cross-eyed like Couric did.  Couric has the interview skills of a beanpole, so don't know why anyone even watched it.


I am looking forward to the debate on Thursday.  I know a lot of you have already got it in your minds that she has already lost the debate and that is unfortunate.  I am anxious to hear Biden talk.  I do like him and had wished he had won the nomination over Obama.


My feeling on Palin is that given a chance and good mentors she will do just fine as VP and I always remember our founding fathers didn't have half the experience she does and they made this country great in the beginning.  Now politics is just filled with lawyers, crooks and liars.


So...if Obama and Biden win I won't be crying, and if McCain and Palin win I will be fine too.


Obama : McCain
It was McCain's best debate, but it was not good enough. Obama is 9 points ahead or even more and winning. It is too late for McCain.
The election is Nov 4.
Obama vs McCain
Obama is a socialist from the word go and will have social medicine, not good.
Obama/McCain
All this crap about Obama's "radical relationships."  Why is it that McCain has not brought up preacher Wright.  He hasn't spared anything else to trash Obama so why is he sparing him on that?  And don't tell me  it is "off limits."  I'm not buying that. Nothing else is "off limits."   Unless maybe Obama/McCain have made a deal not to bring up that in exchange for Obama not bringing up something that would bring McCain down.  I heard preacher Wright with my own ears and that is something *I* would like to hear addressed. I do not call Wright "reverend" because I don't believe he deserves the title based on what I know.  If McCain is so righteous and he11 bent on "saving" this country why doesn't he hit Obama with that accusation.....that might have some legitimate place in this campaign?
Obama : McCain
Obama has a dynamic mentality to which McCain's mentality just pales.
This is it.
Go Obama - go home McCain
My best friend that I was in the Army with 20 years ago just told me that her son went to Kuwait last year, her daughter graduated from high school last year and went straight into the Army and is now in the middle east, and her husband who is a police officer and was in active duty (they met in the army) and the reserves just got called to go over all within the last year. I say Go Obama! We need our troops home in a reasonable time frame. MCain is a war mongerer and will keep this going for the next 100 years (as is his words), and I've heard Hillary is just like McCain and they are on the same team together (what that means I don't know but that's what an article said). I know they are friends and work closely together. So I say please, please, please let Obama win!