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Aaah, I see you're not up to date on the latest
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Aaah, you want to bring it up here....okay
You seemed to have lived a very privileged life but
my family wasn't privileged. We did for ourselves and never felt we were better than others as your family did. We didn't use others to do our work for us. My father, mother, grandfather and grandmother worked side by side with blacks, doing the same jobs they did in factories, in the fields, you name it. I was never raised to believe I was better than others as you were. You obviusly didn't despise your family's racism too much. You still used your nanny, maids, whatever you want to call them and I'm sure you didn't wait on yourself hand and foot. So please don't sit there and sound all sanctimonious about your life. I actually lived life growing up and knew what it was to not be raised to think I was better than everyone else. I never looked at black people as someone who should "do our work" for us as you did. Perhaps you would know best about prejudice, bigotry and racism, since you were so established in a family that did. What I do know is the black people that lived close to us, and there were many, worked side by side with my family members, all being paid the same and all sweating through the summer sun working until dark to plant crops and harvest them together. My family picked cotton out in the blazing summer heat side by side with blacks as well. Did yours? Of course not.
So, until YOU'VE actually lived and worked for REAL with those you want to keep down and feel so sorry for, you need to learn to keep your mouth shut.
Nobody needs your kind trying to sound so self righteous when all you're really trying to do is ease your mind and your guilt.
Don't make that my issue.
You sound like a self-righteous hypocrit.
Aaah, the afterglow...........
Jindal v. Obama continues to dominate the storyline, on a day when the reviews for each were so strong that the White House has little incentive to change the story.
As mockery poured in from all partisan corners, here's what happened to Bobby Jindal-for-President in 2012 on Intrade after reaction to his speech last night:
!["](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u34hEDcpPuE/SaXCAsw_PJI/AAAAAAAAAEM/We_cWn5AGWE/s400/Jindal+on+Intrade.jpg")
Meanwhile, polling reaction to Obama's speech was as good as the White House could have hoped for: CBS News showed a 17% bump, from 63% before the speech to 80% after the speech. Additionally, Obama gained a 15% bump in respondents who believed Obama's economic plans would help them personally, from 36% to 51%.
The post-speech CNN/Opinion Research poll concurred. 68% of viewers reacted to the speech "very positively," 24% reacted "somewhat positively," and 8% negatively.
Today, Obama sought to parlay the afterglow of a strong previous evening into his layout of principles on regulatory reform. In remarks, Obama disputed what he argued was a false choice characterized by much of the debate that has dominated the "nationalization" discussion.
The choice we face is not between some oppressive government-run economy or a chaotic and unforgiving capitalism. Rather, strong financial markets require clear rules of the road, not to hinder financial institutions, but to protect consumers and investors, and ultimately to keep those financial institutions strong. Not to stifle, but to advance competition, growth and prosperity. And not just to manage crises, but to prevent crises from happening in the first place, by restoring accountability, transparency and trust in our financial markets.
While eschewing specifics (like the budget, this is a week of "stay tuned"), the seven principles on regulatory reform Obama outlined in remarks this afternoon were:
1. The big financial institutions that can have systemic impact if they fail need strict regulatory oversight.
2. Modernizing and streamlining the regulatory structure to strengthen the markets.
3. Openness and transparency lead to trust in the markets.
4. Strong and uniform supervision for financial products based on actual data rather than abstract bank-created models.
5. Strict accountability for executives.
6. Comprehensive, loophole-free application of regulation.
7. Challenging other countries to adopt similar high regulation standards so their crises don't virally hurt the global economy.
In testimony to the House Financial Services Committee, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke continued to push back on "nationalization" as he saw it: “Nationalization, to my mind, is when government seizes the banks, zeros out the shareholders and begins to manage and run the bank, and we don’t plan anything like that."
Last week, knowing that the markets were taking the measure of every carefully-parsed word, Robert Gibbs took tremendous care in his language on the subject. Today, Bernanke's attempt to define "nationalization" as "seiz(ing)" banks and "zeroing out" shareholders, as well as Obama's pushback on unhelpfully caricatured language ("oppressive government-run economy" vs. "chaotic and unforgiving capitalism"), clearly signals that as we move into further and further specifics, the White House is sensitive to and even worried about letting the terms of the debate get away from them.
Where we go tomorrow -- as details begin emerging over the next 12-18 hours on budget specifics (the wire services are upstairs in a bloc getting the embargoed scoop), you should anticipate Republicans eager to put the Jindal black eye behind them and onto a redux of picking out projects and screaming "pork!"
The big question. Will any Republicans see the way the public has reacted to Obama versus their caucus on the stimulus debate, the reactions to the speeches last night, and will those lessons inspire any have a change of heart (dose of sanity) on throwing Obama some support?
Aaah....you made a funny.........
how cute, punkinhead
Aaah, so you do understand the part
about the price of carbon emissions will rise too high, and so cripple the economy...........
Or is that over your head?
Aaah, typical response from an O lover
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latest polls
SP sinking . . . losing her "oh look at the shiny new object" diversionary value. Obama on the upswing . . . and these were before the latest financial fiasco which McCain and Gramm had a hand in by deregulating financial institutions.
latest polls
Obama up in swing states FL and PA due to financial crisis.
Latest info
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/17/obamas-lead-falls-two-points-in-new-cnn-poll-of-polls/
Today's latest on Rove
WASHINGTON - The White House is suddenly facing damaging evidence that it misled the public by insisting for two years that presidential adviser Karl Rove wasn't involved in leaking the identity of a female CIA officer. President Bush, at an Oval Office photo opportunity Tuesday, was asked directly whether he would fire Rove -- in keeping with a pledge in June, 2004, to dismiss any leakers in the case. The president did not respond. For the second day, White House press secretary Scott McClellan refused to answer questions about Rove.
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This article says that the White House may have misled the public. And, they apparently pledged to fire anyone who had leaked this information. This has become interesting, hope it doesn't fade right away from the public view.
latest propanganda debunker
Two videos surfaced showing P support for bridge to nowhere. Alaska did receive the money. She did not stop supporting bridge until Congress cancelled the allocation. Alaska KEPT the money. One project it paid for a road to the place where the bridge would have been.
Her chef she claimed to have fired was simply reassigned other duties and still kept cooking for the kids.
the joint editorial decrying the mismanagement of Fannie/Freddie and how they were going to go to Washing to fight influence of lobbyists? Rick Davis, McCain campaign advisor was a lobbyist for Fannie/Freddie.
McCain squad & cohorts in Alaska tried to have the democrat removed from the bipartisan group investigating troopergate but failed. They are still working to hid the truth up there.
Nat'l Guard leader in Alaska said that SP played no part in Nat'l Guard. He later came out and said P DID have experience in military command. Coincidentally, he was then promoted to a higher grade in the Nat'l Guard. Hmm . . . funny how that happens . . .
Put some lipstick on them facts, folks.
The latest one yesterday was from the chairman of...
the Democratic party of South Carolina. Hardly a "crazy."
That being said...it does happen on both sides. However, in being totally objective in looking at this board, the Democrats on this board are just as likely to attack the poster as they are to attack the candidate. That doesn't help. What happens on this board is exactly what happens in Washington and it just needs to stop. Congress and the administration need to drop the party line and do the people's business, not further their careers. It should be about SERVICE. Only one ticket is saying that. Only one ticket is eve interested in reaching across party lines and involving the other party and Independents in their cabinet. That is the ticket I am voting for...because until the party bickering first and country second ideology changes...we are doomed to loop the same old same old. It just needs to stop.
Latest Notable Quotables
Just one of the many places for good info. And to think, it's "okay" to not only imply but state that incest occurs in the Palin home? Seriously, when is enough enough? As a conservative, I skewer the turds in the bunch on a regular basis. Those RINOs don't work for me any more than the Barney Franks, Chris Dodds, etc. work for anyone else but themselves!
http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/2008/nq20080922.asp
Can someone explain J McCain's latest commercial
Okay, I'm no obama fan but I find John McCain's latest commercial totally mind numbing. What historic day is he talking about? In his usual condescending tone he is saying congrats to Barack on his nomination on this historic day. DH and I can't figure out what historic day?
Obama's Latest Muslim "gaffes" ??
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525564.aspx
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/16609/
OK, so the latest message out of the McCain camp
We recognize it by its underlying agenda of twisting a child's story into an Obama smear.
Evidently you hadn't heard the latest.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
and
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933
Correction. Latest numbers show a 6.5 lead.
how many seats in Congress adn the Senate the democrats gained? The message seems pretty clera to me. How do you keep that hatred from eating you up from the inside out? Obama won because desptie GOP's best efforts, they trust their future more to him than McCain. No amount of negativity can change the feeling of uplift, hope, excitement and enthusiasm for our President-elect. I feel sorry for you that you seem so determined to keep yourself down in the mud pit. Election's over. Your party needs your attention. Your country needs your help. Go figure.
Site with the latest version of the stimulus bill. sm
Here is the link to the bill:
http://appropriations.house.gov/
Apparently, they are not going to have enough time to read it before the final vote. It is 1,071 pages long and Ms. Pelosi is going on vacation somewhere for eight days.
http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=43478
No. Latest news is that costs for France rising too
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Or you could tune in MSNBC for the latest Obama leg tingle....
see the man crush first hand.
LOL. Now THERE is some unbiased journalism.
What was the date of this?
I'm trying to find this, but no luck so far.
Not true. This is the latest poll, figures submitted just today. nm
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I think it is more of a problem regarding the date.
The URL had changed. It worked yesterday when I posted it, and that's why Starcat was able to see it.
yeah, i used to date him
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Uh...the DATE was 9/11/2001
I do believe that was Dumb-ya's administration. Why don't you read a book? You need some education.
Tell you what, let's arrange a date. We
and let the man, Jesus, explain it all to us while we are walking on the streets of gold and worshipping Him on the streets of gold and he is teaching us Himself all the mysteries that are not unfolded in this life. There will be plenty of time and He will speak in a language we will all understand!
their date night out --
http://mediamatters.org/research/200906010027First, according to this article, the Obama's paid for their own tickets and dinner. The rest, of course we footed the bill, he had to have security, he had to have his staff, and he had to have his transportation. That is nothing new - we have done that for every President.I do not expect him to give up his life and be in the White House 24/7 for the entire presidency. He has to have some fun time with his family and friends or he would go crazy.I don't like the amount of money it takes to do the things the President(s) do, but it is a necessary expense in my mind. If a man or woman knew they could never leave home again as long as they were serving that they could never move or travel, then nobody would want the job.
Maybe he will sell it to pay for his date
I think the kid just wants Ann Coulter to be his date to the prom.
Did you notice the date? Have you checked out
huge bodies of evidence to the contrary? Besides that, what's your point?
Here's a funny for you. Note the date.
James I. Blakslee
"Pledged to vote for Woodrow Wilson and support the reorganization of the Democratic Party"
"Democrats in every county in Pennsylvania have been betrayed times without number and to-day trickery and deception walk hand in hand to again mislead them"
"Canidates have been found, who, for a price, are willing to represent the twin-machine traitors."
"Every alert, active Democrat will easily detect the tricksters, and on Saturday, April 13th, 1912, between the hours of 2 PM and 8 PM, will register his vote for the Purification of this Party."
I get a kick out of that.
Bristol Palin's Due Date
According to Levi Johnson, the baby daddy, Bristol Palin's due date is TODAY, December 18. It'll be interesting to see and hear what happens or doesn't happen in the next couple of weeks.
Here's how desperate the GOP is: During their convention, in September the religious family-values party trotted out an unwed teenage mother-to-be and the knucklehead who knocked her up, and they gave them a standing ovation.
Evidently, this is nothing new - check date
Recently, one of the most irksome members of the Senate, Joe Lieberman (I-Clowntown) expressed openness to one of the boldest and most effective climate-change policies possible. Some background,
A cap-and-trade system begins by placing a cap on carbon emissions and distributing permits (permission to emit a certain amount of CO2) equal to the capped amount. The notion is that permits will be bought and sold, allowing market forces to determine where emission reductions can be made fastest and easiest. The question is how to distribute those initial permits.
When the EU carbon trading system was established, permits were given away based on emissions, meaning the biggest polluters got the most permits. The idea was that those polluters most needed the money because they had the biggest reductions to make, but in practice it was an enormous financial windfall for their shareholders and prompted very little action on their part to reduce emissions.
The alternative is to sell the permits at auction. This would, in effect, put the proceeds in government coffers rather than in the pockets of utility shareholders. The question then becomes: what should the gov't do with all that money (up to $50B a year)?
The Lieberman-Warner cap-and-trade proposal, released early this year, was widely seen as the "moderate" bill that could get some support from Senate Republicans. One of the biggest criticisms it faced is that it would auction only 20% of the permits -- 80% would be given away to polluters.
But an intriguing item in Politico indicates that Lieberman may be open to changing that:
Lieberman, following a forum sponsored by the Progressive Policy Institute Wednesday, said such a change to his legislation was possible. "We've heard [calls for a 100 percent auction] from some stakeholders and heard that from some of our members. We're thinking about it. Warner and I haven't closed our minds to that. It's on the table," he said.
This could be huge news. The L-W proposal is viewed as the middle of the road. If it moves to 100% auctioned credits, that will effectively sanctify it as the new baseline. The policy and political implications are both huge.
Are you up to date on canadian journalism and who
What was once one of the best papers in Canada has been overthrown by crooks and cronies alike.....with their very liberal agendas! And you think you're getting a fair and balanced viewpoint from them? Humpf!!
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/73/The_Death_of_Canadian_Journalism.html
OH PLEEEESE. I go out on a date night, but
or a fancy New York dinner. It is more like a picnic in the park and then to a movie.
date night at home
often just order a pizza and rent a movie. That's time together!
One of the most eloquent posts to date! I hope you
everywhere you can, and not the lies that the 'pubs have been throwing around for far too long. The last 8 years have erased any and all hope that I will:
1 - Be able to retire.
2 - Be able to own a home.
3 - Be able to continue to fund my savings or IRA instead of siphoning from them.
4 - Be able to feel any sense of security whatsoever.
5 - Be able to travel any further than the local K-Mart two towns away, and be able to afford much once I get there.
It is still on the docket slated for a court date
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Check the date on your link. Four years ago.
in 2008, now that the free market has gone belly up under the weight of its own corruption.
Petty or not, going on a date with taxpayer money
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trial date set for muzzammil hassan
The "moderate Muslim" who beheaded his wife right here in New York because she served him with with divorce papers and an order of protection. And it's only second degree murder????
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hN-I2OcI1NDn2q5_0TXl11ZhirEQD98JV2080
This is creepy. Check out the date on this video clip.sm
I remember when all the christians were freaking out over this speech.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6012144166694761701
Zell gave that speech exactly 4 years ago to the date... nm
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He feels O's date for Gitmo closure is bad idea
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And...Again......(date) - "let the market take care of it?" - we've seen how well that work
McCain's Emission-Reduction Plan Receives Favorable Review
by: Frank Carlson
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As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell research; nuclear nonproliferation; comprehensive immigration reform; faith-based social services; and global warming.
Obama and McCain agree that human-induced global warming exists and even on the system America should adopt to counteract it -- cap and trade, a plan that sets a limit (cap) on the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by manufacturers and power plants, for example, and then hands out credits that polluters can trade among themselves to pull themselves within the legal limits. Heavy emitters of greenhouse gases have to buy credits from low-level emitters. Cap-and-trade plans reward all sides for reducing emissions. Low-level emitters reduce in order to pile up additional credits to sell and high-level emitters reduce in order to spend less on credits.
Where Obama and McCain disagree on the plan concerns the role of the government, specifically how the government should allocate permits to companies. And unlike the current, silly spat over tire pressure gauges, this one matters.
Obama favors a full auction of the credits, which would act like a tax on companies, collecting a great deal of money right off the bat for the government to redistribute. This cash, he says, could go to alternative energy research and projects, then the credits would go to markets.
McCain says he would dole out permits in much the same way proposed by the Climate Security Act of 2007. That act failed in June to receive enough Senate support to even bring to a vote, but the basics are the same: Give the great majority of the permits away, and let the market set the price to support investment.
Here is where conventional political lines become blurred.
If you favor a more free market approach, McCain's plan may be for you because the government would collect far less money from businesses for redistribution. But if you're spooked by special interests, political favors for lobbyists and political corruption--as McCain says he is--then perhaps you side with Obama's strategy.
So what does Richard Sandor, architect of the wildly successful cap and trade system for reducing sulfur dioxide(SO2) and now CEO of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), say?
He's for a partial auction of credits like the one McCain is backing.
"If you look at full auctioning of permits, what happens?" Sandor asked reporters during a recent interview at his office near the Board of Trade in downtown Chicago. "The day that they are auctioned, you have a net transfer of wealth from the private sector to the public sector at that moment. What, then, happens to climate change? Nothing has happened. You have just had a transfer of wealth.
Climate Exchange, the first voluntary but legally
binding market for trading emissions in North America.
It's better to let the private sector decide where the money should go, Sandor says, which is why he's against a carbon tax. And, he adds, there is precedent for believing so.
"The program that's worked is SO2," Sandor said. "Some amount of auctioning is, I think, OK. We will implement whatever the government does. We don't have an official opinion, but I'm guided by the SO2 program and how it accomplished its objectives so cheaply that that's the way to do it."
Sandor insisted the CCX is not a policy-making entity and that it will implement any system lawmakers put forth. Much like pilots, he said, the CCX will fly whichever planes the engineers--or rather, politicians--design.
"If you design it wrong," he said, "you may have to go 30 extra miles, you may have some accidents, or crashes, and we really speak to the efficacy of the design and leave public policy to the people who are policy makers in Washington. We're not advocates."
The CCX is currently North America's only voluntary but legally binding platform for trading carbon and other emissions. Even without a mandatory cap and trade system in the U.S., many companies have already begun to reduce their emissions in the hopes of improving their public image and perhaps reaping revenues through emissions reductions.
While Sandor explains why he's against Obama's plan for the full auction of credits, his greatest priority is getting mandatory cap and trade in place, whatever the framework. Undoubtedly, this would be a great boon to the CCX, and Sandor believes it is coming.
"Both candidates, McCain and Obama, have publicly embraced it," Sandor said. "I believe in their hearts that they're committed to reducing global warming and see it as a major threat. Is it inevitable? I think so. Could there be bumps? Yes."
Those bumps, worries Sandor, include a terrorist attack that could dislodge global warming from the political agenda in favor of dealing with more immediate problems.
"And that's the nightmare scenario that I worry about because it's easy to not worry about intergenerational problems when you have immediate security needs," he says. "And I'm not suggesting that they aren't more important. In fact, they are. But the thing that will slip will be the longer-based horizon, and I think that's a danger that we have."As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell rese...
As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell rese...
You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."
"She should be taking care of her family."
Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
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