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Petty or not, going on a date with taxpayer money

Posted By: was idiotic in these times. No logic there.nm on 2009-06-03
In Reply to: Let's use logic for a change....(sm) - Just the big bad

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You mean he might use taxpayer money to
Oh wait....hmmmmm
She said IF taxpayer money was being used
not that it most certainly was.

She made a good point and instead of taking the time to listen, you jump on her over something she didn't even say.

I understand you don't agree with her on anything but is it so hard to listen to valid concerns without having to argue?

Now you can jump on me, LOL.
The truly poor already get money from the taxpayer.
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Oh, so it's NOT taxpayer money then, so what's the beef?
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Can YOU prove it's taxpayer money?
What's the president make? $140,000 yr.? But, it's the perks that are part of his salary - rent free, utility free, a BUDGET for the president to live on. You can simplify it to simply "frivolous" partying, but I do not believe that is the case - there is far more to it than that. There are traditions and a decorum that is expected. I think our president more than fits the bill.
Secretary of the Interior WASTES $245,000 of taxpayer's money

A Lavish Bathroom at Interior -


If Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.) is confirmed this month as interior secretary, he'll have a snappy, scarcely used bathroom in his fifth-floor office, thanks to Dirk Kempthorne, the outgoing secretary.


Seems Kempthorne spent about $235,000 in taxpayer funds renovating the bathroom a few months ago, which included installing a new shower, a refrigerator and a freezer and buying monogrammed towels, department officials told our colleague Derek Kravitz.


The General Services Administration approved and partially funded the project, an Interior Department official said. The GSA paid about half the cost to refurbish aging plumbing, which needed to be replaced within four years.


But department officials say much of the money was spent on lavish wood paneling and tile. Among the choice items found in the new bathroom: wainscot wood panels extending from floor to ceiling and cabinet doors revealing a working refrigerator and freezer.


"If Gale Norton needed to shower, at least she was conservative enough to go to the gym in the basement of the building," one career employee quipped, referring to Kempthorne's predecessor.


An initial investigation by the department's inspector general, Earl B. Devaney, found no wrongdoing on the secretary's part because the GSA had approved the project.


A department spokesman, Shane Wolfe, did not return messages seeking comment.


Incoming Cabinet officials often waste absurd amounts of money redecorating perfectly posh offices to their tastes. Watchdogs generally decry the waste of money. But if the projects are part of the stimulus package . . .


Yeah, spend more taxpayer money on food stamps.
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It is waste alright! You dont spend taxpayer money
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We care because it's Alaska taxpayer money for her kids to travel, even though uninvited nm
what a joke palin is... she's had it now

Petty, petty, petty....
slow news day today ladies?
How petty can you get?
I think we can chalk this up to hope for the best, expect the worst and be prepared for either. While we are on the subject, it seems McC is not too sure if he should be inside of outside of his own victory celebration....the lawn may be the best place from which to launch a quick getaway. Who knows? McC has been throwing up everything he can think of against the wall and so far, nothing sticks. This cocky mantra is only the latest and perhaps one of the lamest yet. Obama himself has warned repeatedly in the past few days about the dangers of complacency. Just because we are excited at the idea that he has a clear shot at winning does not in any way mean that the job is done or that his supporters have stopped their most diligent efforts to cover all the bases, dot all their Is and cross all their Ts. McC has also said "when I am president" and O has said "if elected." For pete's sake, grow up already.
No, I'm just going with petty.

Obama isn't the one griping about Blair house, I am.  First off, he needed to move early so his kids could go ahead and start school.  He wasn't trying to move into the white house.  He was making a decision based on the needs of his kids.  Yeah, that was just terrible of him.


Secondly, Blair house is what, 70,000 sq feet, comprised of townhouses, with 110 rooms and 35 bathrooms. 


Third, the only guest there is the former prime minister of Australia, John Howard, who incidentally was kicked out of office for aligning with Bush. 


Let me guess, there just wasn't enough room?


This is simply Bush being a butt head.  Very childish, if you ask me, for someone who is supposed to be president.


Petty...huh?

And continually talking about Sarah Palin's daughter getting pregnant isn't petty?  That has nothing to do with Palin's ability to run her state.  Yet people continually bring that up and consider it a reason for Palin to fail politically. 


The whole point of this is the fact that Obama is spending more money wastefully during this crisis.  I'm sure he didn't foot the bill for that party.  If our country had money, fine.....but everyone has to cut back during this time and that includes politicians.  If they want to spend their own money....more power to them, but a majority of them are using taxpayer money.  Just like Pelosi using military planes.  Everyone is cutting back and they went after bank CEOs and auto CEOs and gave them crap for having private jets and here you have Pelosi using military planes costing taxpayers money.  Another example of do as I say and not as I do, huh?


Petty tit for tat...(sm)

As much as I do dislike the last admin, this isn't about getting revenge.  It's about standing up for what our nation is supposed to stand for.


If you want to go with just everyone who "knew" about it, then that would definitely wipe out a ton of people in the senate (probably both sides).  However, who gave the orders to carry out torture?  Who tried to rewrite the laws regarding torture?  I would simply go after the directly guilty...and that does not include, btw, military personell who were following orders.


If you want to fry a dem on something, then go for Clinton for rendition, but that guilty by association thing that you guys seem to love to use isn't going to float.


taxpayer dollars?

what makes you think that everyone having an abortion is paying for it themselves? 


A satisfied taxpayer........ sm

Tax Bill
Dear Internal Revenue Service:

Enclosed you will find my 2005 tax return showing that I owe $3,407.00 in taxes. Please note the attached article from the USA Today newspaper, dated 12 November, wherein you will see the Pentagon (Department of Defense) is paying $171.50 per hammer and NASA has paid $600.00 per toilet seat.

I am enclosing four (4) toilet seats (valued @ $2,400) and six (6) hammers valued @ $1,029), which I secured at Home Depot, bringing my total remittance to $3,429.00.

Please apply the overpayment of $22.00 to the "Presidential Election Fund," as noted on my return. You can do this inexpensively by sending them one (1) 1.5 " Phillips Head screw (see aforementioned article from USA Today newspaper detailing how H.U.D. pays $22.00 each for 1.5" Phillips Head Screws). One screw is enclosed for your convenience.

It has been a pleasure to pay my tax bill this year, and I look forward to paying it again next year.

Sincerely,

A Satisfied Taxpayer


 


PBS is taxpayer funded

so it must pay back to taxpayers. But .... did you see if the PBS interviewed, asked opinions of the Real People, who created and defended this nation: Machinists, Mechanics, Builders, Truck Drivers, Soldiers and etc? NO! The PBS is a stage for big media sharks as Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, NY Times and etc
It is an obligation of the PBS to pay back to society: broadcast Forums, Debates of Candidates for US Congress (Senate and House), but intentionally, with conspiracy of big media does not do, that pushed Candidates to accept money, to political prostitution.


If it isn't taxpayer funded
then why would Bush cut back funding and why would it hurt PBS so much if they weren't taxpayer funded.  Watch who you call ignorant or at least look in the mirror first.
Well, either way, it's a taxpayer thing.....
it's not for hiring anyone! It's for teaching the already hired employees to be friendlier and more "well-mannered", and to "Hello", "thank you", and "come again". What a joke and what an absolutely stupid waste of taxpayers' dollars!!!

If state employees are supposed to be saying these things in the first place and that is a must, then fire them and hire someone who really wants a job! Really, do YOU or I need someone to come in to teach up how to say "come again" and "thank you"? These people are nuts!!!
More than one way to skin a taxpayer

or attack an amendment.  What good is a bullet launcher without bullets?  I heard that with their allotment of materials, manufacturers have been directed to make ammunition only for the government because of the war.  Hold on a second.....isn't the war supposed to be winding down??


Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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petty and pathetic.
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Your jealous and petty

is my . . that's the law of the land, quite your botchin'.  Change it or live with it. Good greasy gravy, grow up.


 


and even more pettiness....where's Tom Petty when

this whole board is petty
just doing my part to contribute.
How is it being petty and ridiculous because

There are so many of us out here struggling to make ends meet, put food on the table for our families and they are going out on a date at our expense?  I did not vote for O, I am neither a republican or a democrat, but I have encouraged every one I know to support him and give him a chance.  However, it seems that the more that I now try to encourage myself to support him, the more stupid things that he does.  Let's forget about the date and talk about the trip to Los Angeles to raise money for Harry Reid.  He took Air Force One, which by itself costs an unbelievable amount of money to just get ready to fly, hundreds of thousands of dollars, then you add in what it costs to get in the air.  I completely understand that this is something that has been done by both parties in the past but when you stand before the cameras and ask every last person in America to sacrifice and then you go out and do things that are costing these same people even more money, I believe that it is completely appropriate to be angry as heck.  Then I saw on CNN where the question was posed "is the $400,000 salary of the President of the United States adequate, should it be more."  Well let's see, he travels at our expense, he has a roof over his head with no expenses whatsoever, food is on the table at no expense to him, he has a beautiful place to escape to for long weekends, again at no expense to him, so do I think that $400,000 is appropriate?  You are dang right I think that it is appropriate.  


This is an administration who preached about transparency during the election and, in my opinion, so far, they have been far from transparent.  Even though I did not vote for him I truly hoped (and still hope) that he would make things better for all of us and so far I personally do not see that happening. 


 


Petty? Why not to a movie, but
Double-standards, Obama's way.
What was the date of this?

I'm trying to find this, but no luck so far.


Exactly how do you know both are financed by the RNC on the taxpayer dime?...
And even if it were, it's not up to you how the RNC spends its money.

Ten to one, she pays for her own kids way...about the wardrobe...sounds like you're a bit jealous, is all I can see from here.
Yep, let the hard-working taxpayer pay for those
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And it is a CONTINUOUS bonus to the taxpayer's pay, ....sm
Trickle-down economics did not work in all those Republican years, so I guess it might be time to think outside the sandbox,guys? Perhaps a new President with new ideas, since the old ones got us in this predicament in the first place? Why aren't the hard-core Pubs more angry that their government and leaders got us here and kept us here, while feeding the rich more tax cuts, and while taking off all the banking regulations and looking the other way???? Crony-ism at its best!
Great try at a comeback. You are just as petty as
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I think it is more of a problem regarding the date.
The URL had changed.  It worked yesterday when I posted it, and that's why Starcat was able to see it.
yeah, i used to date him
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Uh...the DATE was 9/11/2001
I do believe that was Dumb-ya's administration. Why don't you read a book? You need some education.
Tell you what, let's arrange a date. We
and let the man, Jesus, explain it all to us while we are walking on the streets of gold and worshipping Him on the streets of gold and he is teaching us Himself all the mysteries that are not unfolded in this life. There will be plenty of time and He will speak in a language we will all understand!
their date night out --
http://mediamatters.org/research/200906010027First, according to this article, the Obama's paid for their own tickets and dinner.  The rest, of course we footed the bill, he had to have security, he had to have his staff, and he had to have his transportation.  That is nothing new - we have done that for every President.I do not expect him to give up his life and be in the White House 24/7 for the entire presidency.  He has to have some fun time with his family and friends or he would go crazy.I don't like the amount of money it takes to do the things the President(s) do, but it is a necessary expense in my mind.  If a man or woman knew they could never leave home again as long as they were serving that they could never move or travel, then nobody would want the job.
Maybe he will sell it to pay for his date

NYT ad alone cost $200,000 in taxpayer funds. Not a big deal?nm
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I doubt they have time for that petty stuff. NM

Sounds like a petty, cruel god's rules
Actually this sounds like a human's idea of what a god would want.  So obsessed with rules and regulations......
I like what I see in the mirror. Petty squabbles do not rile me,
I have not been trying to rile anyone all day. I have posted infrequent, well researched, rationale, logical discussions and comparisons of issues, plans, policies, platforms and positions, trying to egg pubs into some sort of similar response. So far, in response, they run from issues and reply with dodges, slams, bashes and digs.

I do not back down from these either, because some of the inflammatory ignorant poop they post seeks to undermine my candidate in destructive ways. I will be answering every single time in the same spirit that is used in the posts I am replying to. I have no sympathy for what pubs have "suffered" from SS today because dems are forced to deal with our own sally in the form of Sam 12 hours a day 5 days a week and have been doing so for months and months now. It's like Obama. He has been relentlessly raked through the coals for the past 18 months and has not complained one single time. SP and McCain have had this same treatment now for around 5 days and they are wimping out, whining like a couple of 5 year olds and declaring war on the so-called "liberal" press....not a terribly intelligent thing to do in the middle of a campaign.

Your double standard claim means less than nothing to me, but I do agree with you that my time and energy is better spent compliling fact to fight fiction and promoting my candidate to the best of my ability, in a thoughtful, intelligent and credible manner. See ya back at the board, Get Smart. Would look forward to engaging you in a real political debate on issues, etc, should you feel so inclined.
But why is this stuff seemingly petty to Americans?
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Petty bickering about stuff from 16 years ago
Pardon the pun here, but we have bigger fish to fry....much bigger fish. Rahm has all the qualities that a chief of staff needs and if you don't like his personality, oh well. What is obvious here is that you are making judgments WAY too prematurely. One person does not a trend make. The undertones of your post are juvenile and you sound like a smart alek. If you rarely read or post on this board, then why don't you just drive on by and keep on going? We could probably get along just fine without your input.
That's a pretty petty thing to be bugging you.

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Ann is a biterr and jealous petty little witch.
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like the left doesn't know anything about petty snipes
if the woman can't count, she can't count. so what
I think the kid just wants Ann Coulter to be his date to the prom.

Did you notice the date? Have you checked out
huge bodies of evidence to the contrary? Besides that, what's your point?
Here's a funny for you. Note the date.

James I. Blakslee


"Pledged to vote for Woodrow Wilson and support the reorganization of the Democratic Party"


"Democrats in every county in Pennsylvania have been betrayed times without number and to-day trickery and deception walk hand in hand to again mislead them"


"Canidates have been found, who, for a price, are willing to represent the twin-machine traitors."


"Every alert, active Democrat will easily detect the tricksters, and on Saturday, April 13th, 1912, between the hours of 2 PM and 8 PM, will register his vote for the Purification of this Party."


I get a kick out of that.


Bristol Palin's Due Date
According to Levi Johnson, the baby daddy, Bristol Palin's due date is TODAY, December 18. It'll be interesting to see and hear what happens or doesn't happen in the next couple of weeks.

Here's how desperate the GOP is: During their convention, in September the religious family-values party trotted out an unwed teenage mother-to-be and the knucklehead who knocked her up, and they gave them a standing ovation.