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Buried on pg 6 of our newspaper is this small headline

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-02-14
In Reply to:

"Congress kills plan to recover bonuses for Wall Street execs." The below link is from the AP press.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STIMULUS_BONUSES?SITE=NCBER&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STIMULUS_WILL_IT_WORK?SITE=NCBER&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT




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And you don't see this making the headline
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That headline should read, "No it was NOT over 1,000...." nm
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And everybody did newspaper drives and
steel drives. Each month, a tractor trailer would be parked at a certain spot in town and everyone would save their newspapers and hand them over to this tractor trailer. Same with old tires. They even gave their pots and pans for the aluminum and steel drive. Anything that could be melted down and remade into something to help the war effort.
Did anyone else see a headline/story this morning about Rove?

I saw it briefly this morning and then it disappeared.  It said that Rove himself found out about Plame's undercover status from Novak, not the other way around!  The article made it sound like this affair was resolved, Rove was the good guy that we all know him to be, ha-ha. 


Well, I suppose I can just wait to see if it reappears.  Seemed surprising, but stranger things have happened.


I checked that "other" board to see if they were crowing about it yet but na-da, nothing so far.  Maybe I misinterpreted it.


If it were the Clinton White House wonder what the headline would be. sm

Do you think Limbaugh and Hannity will have any comments about these Republicans?  Don't hold your breath. 


CDC Adviser Arrested for Urinal Incident
Monday, January 22, 2007(01-22) 14:53 PST ATLANTA (AP) --
A prominent public health expert who is a top adviser to federal health agencies was arrested on suspicion of public indecency in an airport men's room.
Dr. Hugh H. Tilson, 67, was arrested Jan. 16 at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport after a plainclothes police officer said he saw Tilson masturbating at a urinal while watching other men urinate.

Tilson, a part-time faculty member at the University of North Carolina's School of Public Health, has advised the government and industry on health issues and co-authored an influential 1988 report on the future of public health in the U.S.

Tilson recently co-chaired a task force advising the Atlanta-based federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on setting agency priorities and goals. He was visiting Atlanta last week for a senior leadership retreat with CDC Director Julie Gerberding and others.


CDC spokesman Glen Nowak said Monday that agency officials had just learned of Tilson's arrest. The agency had no comment because it's a law enforcement matter, he said.


Tilson could not immediately be reached for comment at his UNC office or Raleigh, N.C., home, or through his university e-mail.


UNC officials issued a statement that clarified that Tilson is not a classroom instructor. The university takes the charges seriously. We think it is important to let the Georgia judicial system resolve the case, the statement said.


Public indecency is a city code violation, which is considered of less consequence than a misdemeanor, according to a police report. Tilson posted a $500 bond and was released, and is to return to Atlanta next month for a court appearance


Wasn't that a front-page headline in the
n/msg
The Anchorage Newspaper just published

a scathing article on how embarassed they were by Sarah Palin's (I ask incredibly stupid or arrogant?) comments on her being cleared of the the Troopergate charges!!  What a megalomaniac that woman is . . . very scary!!


Interesting newspaper article....

Excerpts from article Scripps Howard News.  Can't link to it, could not find it on line. 


It's a new president, a new era, but maybe we can salvage something from the Bush-bashing days gone by, namely some of the political catchphrases that have updated meanings in our altered circumstances.  You begin to see their utility when you look at how critics worried (including most all Democrats and of course, our new president...my words, not article words) that President Bush was *sacrificing our liberty for security,* and then ask whether President Obama and the Democrats aren't aiming to sacrifice liberty (and free speech I might add) for different kinds of security.  They are.  The most obvious example is the eagerness to sacrifice free speech ont eh radio by reimposing the so-called Fairness Doctrine (fair...yeah right...Democrat version of fair...you are entitled to free speech ONLY if we like what you say, you always agree with us and never say negative things about us..lol).    Then there's the effort for enhanced electoral security.  Obama and the Democrats are in synch with a scheme to sacrifice the liberty of workers to use secret ballots in elections whether to have a union.  All kinds of commercial liberties might be denied as Obama surveys his options on keeping the market in tow, revising energy policies and combating greenhouse gases.  There's been talk of nationalizing banks.  And to give us security from dependence on foreign oil, Obama plans to deprive the auto industry of building the kind of cars consumers want.  It's a move that could do severe hurt to an alread damaged industry to no sure-fire avail.


Another catchphrase employed against Bush was that he had no *exit strategy* to get us out of the war in Iraq.  A genuine fear is that Obama administration and the Federal Reserve have no *exit strategy* to get us out of a spending and money-printing spree that could help stick us with a 1.7 trillion deficit in 2009, leading to a collapsed dollar, cause a doubling of taxes and, down the road, lead to runaway inflation and even worse, interminable economic crisis and devastating decline as a prosperous world power.  Especially considering that we are faced with trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for Medicare and Social Security and that the bill starts coming due in relatively few years.  It's hard to see how we are going extract ourselves from the consequences of this.  We need a plan, or at the very least, an explanation of how we avoid disaster.  I have not heard any (me either!!). 


Finally, it was repeatedly said of Bush that he made up the well-founded if finally incorrect stories about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and thereby *lied us into a war.* Now there are people who are contending that Obama is using the moment's high anxiety to "lie us into socialism" (BINGO!).  It's said, for example, the stimulus package will do more to create a welfare state than to arouse the economy (so far the billions thrown at it have done little), and when you put this together with regulatory overkill now being plotted, we'll have a centralized, government-controlled economic system that routinely robs from Peter to pay Paul.  The recently passed House bill is loaded with evidence for this thesis...billions upon billions of wealth-transferring programs that address this crisis about as much as a sneeze. 


No one wants, or should want, to subject Obama to what Bush faced, criticism that was sometimes unfair to the point of calumny.  But there is too much at risk for us to all hold hands and sing kumbaya.  We need to vigorously debate, and some of the phrases used ad infinitum in the Bush years can help us put some very real issues into sharper focus.


All that being said in the article....why are Democrats not asking Obama the tough questions like they asked Bush?  Why are the people on this board not asking Obama the tough questions?  Oh...wait....what AM I thinking???   The great O has spoken...and that's all they need.


Mr.TS: Why don't you start publishing your own newspaper
instead of wasting your intellect and expertise on us, trying to manipulate us, even brainwashing us with your 'feigned innocence', as another poster already stated.
All my replies to you are facetious, it amazes me that you even have to 'ponder' about that. I could have written 'think', but 'ponder' is more affected, similar to your choice of words.

I find the choice of your vocabulary 'unbearably affected.'
Also, I quote.....'but then I decided that you actually don't know.'
Who do you think you are to 'decide' this? Such arrogance!

We are posting on the 'politics' board.

I am 100% convinced that you have nothing to do with MTing. I am definitely convinced that you are retired.


Newspaper interviews are not usually video taped. nm

BUT, you're not an editor of substantial newspaper.

The cartoonist and the Editor are not teenagers, nor naive.  They knew full well the insinuation of monkeys, primates, and the interpretation it would have on a nation that went through a very troubled period. 


If these are the WMD we went in for, which had been buried since 1988...sm
That's still no justification for war. And this proves what exactly?
Bringing this to the top before it gets buried...sm
This is just absolutely amazing. I wonder how many of Obama's bots are here on this very forum?

http://www.rense.com/general83/nrw.htm
backwards, you didn't read the post, just the headline PAY ATTENTION
loser
This coming from the same person who buried us
nm
My late husband is buried
next to a plot where unborn fetuses (is that the plural????) are born.  Very sad.  Those parents keep flowers on the little graves.  Obviously those were unborn children who were wanted by their parents. 
There will be some left so deeply buried in their own mud
Yours is a cold and dark world. Post to your heart's content and remind us just how fast and far we need to run for this world view.
Newspaper Marks 1000 Days of Iraq War with Key Stats
Newspaper Marks 1000 Days of Iraq War with Key Stats

By E&P Staff

Published: December 13, 2005 10:30 AM ET

NEW YORK To mark what it called the 1000 Days of the Iraq war, the London daily The Independent offered extensive coverage today, featuring a by-the-numbers approach.

Here are some of their calculations:

$204.4 billion: The cost to the U.S of the war so far.

2,339: Allied troops killed

15,955: US troops wounded in action

98: U.K troops killed

30,000 : Estimated Iraqi civilian deaths

0: Number of WMDs found

66: Journalists killed in Iraq.

63: Journalists killed during Vietnam war

8: per cent of Iraqi children suffering acute malnutrition

53,470: Iraqi insurgents killed

67: per cent Iraqis who feel less secure because of occupation

$343: Average monthly salary for an Iraqi soldier. Average monthly salary for an American soldier in Iraq: $4,160.75

5: foreign civilians kidnapped per month

47: per cent Iraqis who never have enough electricity

20: casualties per month from unexploded mines

25-40: per cent Estimated unemployment rate, Nov 2005

251: Foreigners kidnapped

70: per cent of Iraqi's whose sewage system rarely works

183,000: British and American troops are still in action in Iraq.

13,000: from other nations

90: Daily attacks by insurgents in Nov '05. In Jun '03: 8

60-80: per cent Iraqis who are strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops

*
In an accompanying piece from Baghdad, the newspaper's Patrick Cockburn adds one more stat: A BBC poll yesterday showed that half of the Iraqis questioned say that Iraq needs a strong leader--while only 28 per cent cited democracy as a priority.

Iraqis are cynical about their political leaders, Cockburn writes. The election results are likely to show that the great majority of Iraqis will vote along ethnic or religious lines as Shia, Sunni or Kurds. The country is turning from a unitary state into a confederation.

There is no sign yet of the thousand-day war ending. Every month up to a thousand fresh corpses arrive at the mortuary in Baghdad. A new Iraq is emerging but it is already drenched in blood.


Can't find the space. Our threads get buried
nm
**Buried False Fable** of Obama not being

religion. Quit turning things around to suit you.


Bootstrap mentality post betting buried in the mud.
nm
Yeah, let's resurrect this buried false fable.

NM


I have to take a small exception....
I understand why there was no half staff declaration for Katrina victims and there was for VA Tech. There is a difference in a natural disaster, where loss of life is expected to some degree (not condoned, not accepted, but expected) and a crazy going nuts and murdering 32 people in a heinous horrible bloodbath. I can see why the half-staff for VTech. There has never, as far as I have known, been half-staff for victims of natural disaster, and Hurricane Andrew killed many as well. Although there was no paper half-staff declaration, I did hear personally on many occasions President Bush use some of the same words in talking about the Katrina victims...and he did declare a national day of remembrance for the Katrina victims, which he did not do for the VA Tech victims.
Small and slanted...?
I saw the video. How can a video be small and slanted? It was broadcast on several channels though certainly not CNN. How can that be slanted? A video is what it is. The country producing it did not dispute it, France and Germany did not dispute it. Please tell me how that can be slanted. It is also a fact that they found the intact 747 in the Iraqi desert. That WAS reported on CNN. How can that be slanted? It was there. What possible other purpose could it have to be there? I can see you ignoring a video of two men, but a 747???

You are wrong about the unrest...most of the unrest in Iraq is foreign fighters. If you would watch one of the small and slanted reports as you call them, if only occasionally, you might actually get the BIG picture you keep referring me to. Several of the sectarian fighters have now turned on the foreign fighters instead of each other. Hopefully more of that will occur.

I suppose it will be easy enough for you, if we pull out of Iraq now, to just let the Sunnis and Shias have at it and take all the innocents who just want to work and live with them, aka Viet Nam. For whatever reason, whether you agree with it or not, we are there and the situation is what it is. We can turn tail and run like we did in Viet Nam, or we can finish it.

As to facts to form theories...your facts and theories are no stronger than mine. And again I say...it should not be a far right, a right, a liberal or a far left thing. It should be an American thing. I am an American first. I don't give a good gosh darn about politics. I do give a good gosh darn about this country and keeping it safe for all of us, no matter what direction we lean in. Would that we all felt that way.
I am teaching a small ESL

course in grammar.  Two examples I use


President Bush flew BACK from vacation to sign the Terri Schiavo legislation.


President Bush flew OVER the Katrina victims.


 


It seems to help them understand better.


 


 


small business
Me and DH own a small recreation business, and quite frankly, a few years ago, when the gas prices started getting out of control is when our business started hurting. We are taxed individually, not as a corporation, so I don't see anything in O's tax plan that would hurt us. Maybe help us a bit. Most small business owners aren't making a large fortune, those are the big corporations who have so many dam@ loopholes anyway!
Just like you buy his very small relationship with
!!
Just one small question?
What about your tax dollars going to support ILLEGAL aliens?  You okay with that?    My husband and I paid a little over $15,000 last year in taxes, 85% of our Social Security benefits were taxed because of our other income. I would hardly consider us freeloaders and I wouldn't mind a little tax cut myself.    Get real, none of us are going to get a tax cut and all of working (and retired) AMERICAN taxes are going to go up.  Thank your Republicans as well as the Democrats.  They all put us another $750 billion and counting in debt.  Somebody is going to have to pay it or you can start worrying about communism when China forcloses on their loans!!!!!!  You people need to take the shades off your eyes.
How about Rev. Otis Small
from Trinity Church (Rev Wright's former church). Obama says he is the wisest man he knows. Oh my gosh, this is beyond scary! Whatup indeed!!!
small message
It's easy to be gracious and appear to reach out to the other side - when you are the winner! I only fear what the OBama masses would have done if their candidate had lost .. a lot more than booing during the concession speech I fear.

I do agree on the republican party comments, however.

But I also think there were a lot of uneducated people who really thought through WHAT OBama said and consider how and when he was actually going to do any them, and even further, exactly how they will be paid for?

oh well. I will support him - he is our new president .. and will also do a lot of praying for our government ..

Small message ..
I will be fair..

I am patriotic ..

I (so far)am guaranteed freedom of speech and the freedom to have ideas of my own ...

I will not sit back and act like he is My Lord and Savior and I should worship his feet or the ground he walks on.

I will give him a chance .. truly

Just my 2 cents.
Small, harmless example
From a journalist, not an opinion personality:

Neil Cavuto:

– We do not pick and choose these rallies and protests. We were there for the Million Man March, even though, as I pointed out, it turned out to be well shy of a million men. [Fox Business, 4/11/09]

and

– You seem to pick and choose what events and protests were worthy. Million Man March, worthy, even though it wasn’t a million men, it was half a million. We covered that because we thought it had a worthy message too. [Fox News, 4/8/09]

Fox News could not possibly have covered the Million Man March.


Breaking out my small violin
I hope by the time you go through any real persecution you will have grown some skin. 
And he wasn't after any small change either. I think..sm
the prolife, anti-gay hoopla is just a front for some of em.

Kind of like *yeah yall keep that song and dance going over there, while I get this money over here.*
I live in a very small town. sm

My state is a red state, but my hometown newspaper carries one column and that is Molly Ivins.  You don't get much further left than that.  I agree.


A couple of small things...
Intolerance is not something I associate with being liberal. Perhaps I need to adjust my thinking.

My compassion extends to all those hurting and in need, just like yours does. However, as you well know and seem so jaded by, one person cannot focus on every area, every part of humanity, every issue. You must choose your issue and throw all your energy into it. I would say that the anti-war arena is pretty well covered, wouldn't you? The anti-abortion arena, however, is not. And that is where I am moved to place my focus. Because there are people affected by war who CAN speak for themselves. They DO have the ability to at least try and protect themselves. Unborn children do not have that luxury. They are totally at the mercy of others, and if you want to talk about a horrendous way to die...there is no more horrendous way to die than being aborted. In a way, it is the ultimate betrayal if someone does not defend the most vulnerable among us. That is why I chose that issue and that is why I will speak out against it with my last breath.

You call me supercilious, yet post something like the nature of conservatism to have lack of empathy? A rather broad brush stroke I would say. How you can criticize something else for having no empathy and turn your back on the unborn...there is NO balance in that to see.

There is no spin, piglet. The facts are obvious. You have chosen to exclude the most needy and vulnerable and even go to the extreme of being highly critical of me for doing so. No spin there.

It is obvious you call things the way you perceive them, and have intolerance for any who do not agree with your perception. Again, that is not a trait I associate with liberals. And again..perhaps I need to adjust my thinking.

No one is asking you to apologize, piglet. These last few posts...amazing. If it were aimed AT liberals I would swear it WAS Ann Coulter. Especially the "I call things the way I perceive them, I don't sugar coat it and I won't apologize for it." VINTAGE Ann Coulter. :-)
She is what small-town America is all about
Loved the speech, love the candidate!!!
Those small-town values are
EXACTLY what the big bad world needs to take it on.  Resolute, firm in beliefs, freedom, country first. 
As an IC, I'm considered a small business, so
but not really sure which will benefit me the most. ICs must all think like small businesses and consider taxes based on that, not as individual taxpayers.

I actually don't agree with either one on all tax issues, so I'm still on the fence. I doubt Barack will be able to enact and MAINTAIN the tax cuts he has promised. I agree with giving seniors a break on taxes when they are on a limited budget, for example, but Barack has said seniors making less than $50K. That means if they make $49K (which is more than I make, BTW), they don't have to pay ANY taxes?? Lower that amount a tad and I might see it as reasonable, but a senior making more than me, receiving senior discounts, Medicare, etc., and then not having to pay taxes. Seems a little off balance somehow.

And simplifying tax preparation isn't one of my top priorities, I have TurboTax for that. A lot of his other tax proposals pretty much mirror McCain's so I don't see much difference there, like the R&D, small biz, etc. I like his ideas on taxes, but IMO, his website is full of promises that he will have a VERY hard time fulfilling.

I like that Barack addresses credit card practices. I feel this is a BIG problem. Good creditworthy people are getting screwed by shady practices of credit card companies left and right. I don't see where McCain has addressed this.

I like McCain's summer gas tax holiday, lowering gas prices in the summer, since historically, gas prices always climb through summer especially around the holidays. I also like his HOME plan, as this would make the people truly affected by subprime loans eligible to trade their mortgage. But probably what I like most is McCain's view on healthcare - restoring control to the PATIENTS. I know people that live in countries with Government provided healthcare, and they do not have any more control over that than any of us with paid insurance policies do. I feel the only way to change this issue is to crack down on the insurance companies, force their hands to make premiums more affordable, make them honor their premium terms, limit their restrictions on patients and pre-existing conditions, and do not allow them to tell patients what procedures they can and can't have and what doctors they can and can't see.
If it is a small business, then it is exempt from this - nm
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I agree, it is not everyone, it is actually just a small portion (sm)
of people who are showing their racist bents..the problem is that some of them are angry and dangerous. And I know there are many races in our country but this particular "battle" is between white and black... and it goes both ways.
It is happening now on a small scale....
we have one refundable tax credit now that I know of...the earned income tax credit. What Obama wants to do is expand that dramatically, and that is most definitely new. That credit does not stretch to that entire 30-40% of people who don't pay federal income taxes. Obama's plan WILL. Because those people comprise part of that 30-40%. How can he give a tax CUT to 95% of Americans otherwise? THAT is my point. Why on earth tax small businesses and yes, even large corporations MORE, so you can give people on welfare a refundable tax credit check?? In my opinion, extending refundable tax credits to people already on the government t*t is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Yes, we have a refundable tax credit now that benefits some persons. What Obama proposes is taking that from where the earned income tax credit is all the way to the bottom. That is his starting from the bottom theory. How many times have we heard that?
Not yet. Voting at about 4 p.m. EST. I live in a small
town. We have two separate voting places with 3 machines at each place, so hopefully not a long line, but I will stay there until my vote is in. Cannot wait.
Maybe if small businesses like MT companies

receive a tax credit as a reward/incentive to keep jobs INSIDE the USA, that policy will help American MTs.


That's Obama's policy.


And think of the small business owner...sm
The SBO who has a small staff, who then would have a jump in payroll but no jump in income, unless of course he raises prices, but the SBO already has trouble competing with the huge box/chain stores. Raising the min wage ends up screwing the SBO who are the backbone of free enterprise in this country.
Sure, but I'd rather be in a small room with a caterpillar!
nm
Waterboarding is only a small part...(sm)

of what they have done.


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0521-01.htm


How do you assume that my world is small?
How can I believe the rest of your comment and your whole state of mind when you state such nonsense?

What is this supposed to mean, I quote, '....so find a different name to call me?'

I cannot recall having ever met you on this board, Victoria, or whatever your user name is?


I live in small-town America (less than 3,000), and I
We don't believe those with all the cash should get to call all the shots, skip paying taxes, and get rewarded for shipping American jobs to foreign countries.
No, mine doesn't, but many small businesses...
including mid range transcription business who operate as S corporations, the entire income from their business is in that bracket and taxed as personal income. It is going to hit small businesses extremely hard. And I don't think it is fair that they have to pick up the tab to pay for tax CUTS for people who are already in the lowest bracket. I don't think that's right, I don't think that is fair, and it will result in businesses closing or laying off workers. So tell me what pray tell does that accomplish?
small message, church lady...
The most significant thing to me in the entire video is "Vote your conscience." That speaks volumes.