Debates---sara palin looks terrified!!
Posted By: keeps talking about Alaska...who cares about sm on 2008-10-02
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Alaska!!! I don't even know where Joe Biden is from and I don't care!!!
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Sara Palin
is no Hillary Clinton!!!
Sara Palin most DEFINITELY needs a visit
I'm sure she and her wacked-out family would be nothing but fodder for fun.
I have had many bosses like Sara Palin, have known many neurotic women like that...
If she gets elected president - there will no doubt be a revolution in this country and then anyone will be able to take it over. Guess we have to hit rock bottom before anything really changes.
You women who want to elect someone president just because you like her - I will be sitting here waiting until about a year from now to see how you are faring. You are going to fear her just like most of her state does. She will bring you sorrow as more and more of your children will be lost to war and poverty.
We have almost the same storm brewing in this country thanks to in my opinion the current president and his administration for another Hitler in this world. Read the history, because he did the same thing you are hearing from M and P - just saying whatever it is people want to hear. Good luck with that. You trusted Bush and are ever more fervent to go right back and trust someone else in this position simply because you are being 'played' and led to believe this woman is going to like you. She will do whatever she is told by Bush and Cheney - forget about McCain.
Good luck and God protect us - we are going to need it. Of course, not if you are rich, aye?
No debates, true...but townhall meetings are not debates....
and it is true that Barack refused all of them. I think it had to do with the format of a town hall meeting. Just my opinion...
I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought. sm
Please say this out loud in a Ben Stein kind of way. Thank you.
Michael Steele is not terrified of Rush.
Get your facts straight.
Some preliminary fact gathering on Sara who?
Early political experience:
1. Sat on city council for Wasilla, Alaska, a town with a whopping population of 5470 in 2000, for 4 years (1992-1996)
2. Mayor of Wasilla 1996-2002(?). Information on her tenure as mayor is murky at best.
3. Unsuccessful bid for Lt Gov 2002.
4. Governor Murkowski appointed her Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas
Conservation Commission 2003-2004, a decision he soon came to regret.
5. Murkowski ignored her ethics whistleblowing and in response, she launched what appears to be a personal vendetta against him. Oh, the power of a woman scorned.
6. Sued her own party chairman and state atty general for lack of ethics (legal violations and conflict of interests).
7. Govt corruption clean up politically advantageous. Elected governor Dec 2006 but has served less than 2 years.
So what were her accomplishments in those 2 years?
1. Celebrity: First woman gov, youngest gov, first gov born after statehood.
2. More ethics housecleaning. Spent much of her time doing party clean up.
3. Promoted conservative agendas to keep federal dollars out of Alaska.
4. Rescinded (count 'em) 35 of Gov Murkowski's appointees.
5. AGIA Act for new gas pipeline.
6. Tried unsuccessfully to block closure of a diary.
7. Reversed Mukowski gravel road program connecting Juneau with a mine.
8. Signed 2nd largest cuts to construction programs budget in state's history. Cut funding to 300 local constrction projects.
9. Here's a good one. Fired commissioner of public safety because he refused to fire one of his employees who was involved in a divorce/custody battle with her sister, for which she is under investigation by the Alaska State legislature for abuse of power.
Positions on social issues:
1. Pro-life/pro death penalty.
2. Opposes same-sex marriages. Alaska was the first state to ban same-sex marriage.
3. Disagreed (with) but begrudgingly complied with Supreme Court Order for same-sex benefits.
No further information available on first pass research. Why? Just not that much to report, I guess. So, for all that hoopty-do over that lack of experience card playing McCain has been engaged in, this is who he wants us to accept as being "ready to lead the nation" should the occasion arise? Careful, McCain, your lack of judgment is showing. One needs to ask why then would he choose her as his running mate? Here's a hint. Ask what's in it for him? More comment forthcoming on what this selection means.
She will do well at the debates s/m
I believe she described herself last night as a "pit bull in lipstick." Biden is already at a disadvantage, he doesn't wear lipstick. She'll walk all over him. He is also a pit bull but they aren't on equal footing. She's a female. Enter McCain's plan to take the election.
I'm sure there will be, after the debates. nm
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post debates
since your first post you have attacked liberals and liberal ideology. either you are a neocon or an unhappy liberal. either way, post positive things and I and others will respond..post debates and I and others will debate..dont come on this board and attack..
I can't wait for the debates...sm
And yeah...I agree Hillary lost her thunder when it became evident she was robbing Peter to pay Paul.
can't wait for the debates
A constitutional lawyer is pretty . . . good . . . in debates.
Correction...about 22 debates....nm
I don't see why the debates should be canceled.
They are a big deal and I would think now both of them would want us to know where they stand, how they can do under pressure, etc. Bush debated in time of war. Reagan debated in time of war.
I'm not bashing him or calling him chicken as it has been implied. I just think now is the perfect time to hear from the people who are supposed to represent us, especially considering one of them is going to be the next President. Postponing them is not going to help the economy at all, if anything it is just going to cause more speculation, which I personally am tired of - on both sides.
I wish he would extend that halting campaign thing to all of the commercials. I could certainly live with a break from all of those - on both sides. Thank God for DVR and recording everything, I can just forward them. :)
He said this during the debates - I hear him -
Obama said then that things he wanted to do would have to slow down and take a different timetable because of the economic conditions. That he knew choices would have to be made on what could go forward when.
Who's been having *nice debates* here this week?
When you people bring your rudeness to this board, it's never nice.
I'd like to hear from one liberal poster here on the LIBERAL BOARD who thinks you are nice.
are you really that afraid of open debates you need to
reduce yourself to name-calling?
I am unsure who to vote for but one thing I know is it will be for whoever is going to make my life better.
Democrats might tax but the taxes go toward social programs, libraries, schools, afterschool programs, playgrounds, all of which are almost nonexistent where I live now since the last 8 years. Rich people walk around here like they are royalty, they pay no taxes and have no care or interest I helping those less fortunate, spare the very few who do.
the more I see on TV and the more I read on boards like these it seems to me republicans are afraid of democrats. when you see Bush sneering and snickering (many examples on youtube) he is not doing that towards democrats, he is laughing behind the backs of all the republicans who believe his lies. I think the joke is actually on the republicans more than democrats.
I have never seen such people be taken advantage of, and love it so much.
send your children off to war to die, give up all your social programs, take more out of your pocket, all so the rich people can slither around this country at their will with no responsibility toward it. that is left to the poor and the nonwhites.
I am starting to see the bigger picture here, I think Republicans do not believe in social programs because of greed, because no one should be able to make money unless you have the right skin color. Say, how many blacks in Alaska, anyway?
lets all lie down and just die for the rich republicans. here, take my money, my children, my hopes and dreams, my pride - just take it all and make sure to give me absolutely nothing back. Right on!
That's the best suggestion I have heard yet regarding the debates. nm
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We will see on Friday. No teleprompters at debates. nm
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We've been having nice debates over there this week
and I know gt enough to know she couldn't be hounded of a maximum security prison shower. I personally don't command anyone to leave unless they are childish enough to start calling people losers or other names like that.
No debates yet because neither one has been officially nominated as the candidate! nm
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Just peeked in on the Conservative board, looking for some *nice debates*
All I saw were you guys *applause applause*-ing each other and the usual ragging on all liberals. Then I saw ONE courageous soul who attempted to debate with you, followed by the usual and customary *stay off the board* warnings to the poster.
So it seems you guys consider nice debate as ganging up and attacking posters who disagree with you.
Maybe that's the problem here. We view nice debate in two different ways.
We view it as being nice to other posters and not personally attacking those who disagree with us. We don't claim to know what they are thinking and feeling in their minds and hearts, and we find those who insist on being nasty to others very distasteful and crude. We don't LIKE to act the way that you neocons act. We'd rather be friendly and civilized. That's why you're not welcome here. It's not because of what you believe. It's because you are unable to act like decent human beings, and you don't know how to treat other people.
If I remember correctly, in the debates he said he would be happy to pay more taxes.
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Sarah Palin fans are as whack as Palin.
Even John McCain's top adviser referred to Sarah Palin as a whack job.
Vote McCain and Palin! -oh and why does Palin
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Palin over Biden any day. Make fun of Palin all you
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Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
Palin might not have taken it anywhere
but it is not her job to seek taking books off shelves, period. And you don't know if this is "political crap" or not because the media has not been permitted to ask her any questions. Once voters get these answers, then they will have the necessary information with which to make a decision as to whether or not this is who we/they want in office. I, for one, am not going to skew her with a pitchfork or defend her as I have no information with which to do so, either way. I need answers to these questions that have been floating out there. Questions and answers are very important in our form of government called democracy which is for the people, of the people and by the people. Freedom comes with a gigantic amount of responsibility, is not to be taken lightly, and is very fragile.
and Palin
accused Hillary of whining when she protested. Talk about unity among women.
What Palin said is exactly right....
we haven't fought Iraqis since Baghdad fell. We have been fighting the insurgency "Al Qaeda In Iraq" since then. And if I am not mistaken, AL Qaeda was responsible for 9-11.
It appears there are others than Sarah Palin who are "clueless."
Sarah Palin is not running for President. Obama is. ANd he has been running for 18 months. If he had done an interview 3 weeks into it, he would have done no better than she did, and probably worse.
lol.
Why would Palin do this? sm
She banned reporters from her 1st meeting with world leaders. Only allowed access to photographers and a television crew. I'm just curious as to if anybody read as to why.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_el_pr/palin_leaders
Now if only Palin would say....
for the love of Pete.....LOL! I say that all the time and get teased horribly for it. 
Palin
Palin has many shady contacts also:
She has backed the Alaska Independence Party. Its platform calls for the defense of "states rights," to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution." Basically, the AIP wants a vote on secession. The AIP says that Gov. Sarah Palin used to be a member of the party. Earlier this year, Palin recorded a welcoming address to the AIP's convention.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
In an interview of extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll helped launch Palin’s political career in Alaska, and in return had influence over policy. “Her door was open,” says Chryson — and still is.
So, this is group is just one of her past supporters. They helped her get where she is today. And dont even get me started on McCain.
Palin
Just dont try to marry into her family and then divorce because then she will come after you with all her power that the VP will give her. Talk about abuse of power! They they flat out refuse to testify? I didnt know anyone had that right.
Palin
Because SHE wanted to be there.
What exactly is it about Palin you don't like?
I like the fact that Mccain chose her after only meeting her once or twice. If he had chosen someone he has known for 20 years or so or someone he is buddies with, everyone would have jumped on him for choosing a friend.
And please don't get on about how she talks, etc., (not just saying this to you gourdpainter, to everyone) how many people have actually looked past how she talks and what she has named her children to what her stance is on the issues?
You can make fun of her for saying seeing Russia from Alaska is foreign policy experience (she WAS joking!) but then Obama turned around and said there are 57 states... they all make gaffes.
I think that she is a strong woman and she has a good moral base. Yes, her daughter got pregnant, but really, did you all listen to your moms on everything? I know when I was a teenager I went to parties, drank, smoked, even though my mommy told me not too. You can tell your children everything, but believe me, they aren't going to listen to you! Not until they hit about 22 and go "oh crap, mom and dad WERE RIGHT!"
The fact that she brought her Down syndrome child into the world just shows how much love she has. It's nice to see her husband is so active in the raising of their children. I know quite a few dads who aren't. It goes to show she will have a good support group if she becomes VP.
As for her experience, we obviously need to throw the experience argument out this election since Biden and Mccain are about equal and Obama and Palin are about equal.
Also, everyone keeps talking about how they want change and don't want the same old politicians in the white house but then they want to harp on Palin and say "oh she was governor of Alaska, what does she know??" I think it would be refreshing to have someone that isn't from a big city and hasn't been in the Senate. I mean Biden has been there for what, ever? And so has Mccain. So maybe by having this "small town girl" to check him on some things will be good.
I think people just need to get off her case. Dems, if SNL was making fun of Obama every week, you would be furious, and a lot of people would claim racism, etc. I think it is sickening that ANY of our candidates have been reduced to a comedy routine in which they are portrayed in such a bad light. Regardless of what we think of them, our leaders need to be respected. If we can't respect them, then we need to vote them out.
I'm sorry, but if no one can admit that the liberal media has been very biased this election, they have been living under a rock. Even comedy shows, like SNL, Daily show, Colbert, etc have been very left sided. There is no longer any unbiased news. And then because maybe one or two sources go against the grain and lean right they are considered a poor source. That is totally unfair. We are supposed to believe everything the liberal news says, but not what the conservative news says? C'mon. You have to know by now when you watch the news NO MATTER WHO IS REPORTING you need to take it with a grain of salt!
Once again, this is no longer an election. It is a popularity contest. Sad.
Okay...first of all Palin can't
fart without the media reporting about it. LOL! I just do not see where you guys say she was being all sneaky. Did she steal the money from the RNC? NO....they gave it to her to buy clothes. Do you want a receipt of every thing the RNC has spent and who they have spent it on because if that is the case, we can request that of the DNC because I'm sure they have similar things they have paid for. At least Palin didn't say that the clothes were just in her closet like Obama said about Ayers just living in his neighborhood. I don't see where Palin has tried to hide anything and when it came out....she was honest about it. That is more than I can say for Mr. Obama who says he never heard Rev. Wright preach any message of hate in the 20 years he attended that church which is all I've ever heard out of Wright's mouth when he has been interviewed on TV.
Q&A re Palin
> > Question: What is America 's first line of missile
> > interceptor defense that protects the entire United States ?
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> > Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.
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> > Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on
> > permanent active duty?
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> > Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
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> > Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile
> > Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?
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> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
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> > Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on
> > highly classified military issues, homeland security, and
> > counter terrorism?
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> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
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> > Question: What U.S. governor has a higher classified
> > security rating than either candidate of the Democrat Party?
> > Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
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> > According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain
> > in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used
> > to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national
> > security, because she already is.
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> > Now you know too, please, pass it on!
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> > Commander....
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> > 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
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Go Palin ----NOT!
http://alaskareport.com/news98/x61620_rape_palin.htm
Maybe neither she nor Palin consider her to be in ...
"a fix." What if your daughter chose life? Gonna send her to Alaska to Palin?
What I see Palin as....
is an absolute insult to women in this country. She was simply put on the ticket to try to get Hillary supporters, and seemingly was okay with that. Women have worked just as hard as any other minority in this country for equality. Regardless of that, she ran on a ticket that did not support equal wages for equal work (check out McCain's record), was against choice when it came to abortion, would like to overturn R v Wade, and every time she opens her mouth ignorance abounds.
No, I don't want her to succeed because I would hate for any other country to think she is actually a portrayal of women in this country. She is an absolute joke.
Palin fun...(sm)
Point and click on everything -- several times (especially animals behind doors)
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
ROFL
Me Too -Go McCain and Palin!
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Palin does have brains.
She could not have gotten where she is today without having brains especially since she started in the PTA and moved up. She didn't have mommy or daddy in politics bringing her name up every chance they got. She is a very admirable women, IMHO. I would be very proud to have her as VP. A woman who can raise 5 kids and be a governor......that is just remarkable. I admire the way she still had her youngest son even though the doctors told her he would have Down syndrome. She isn't afraid to stand up for what she believes. She is more of a real person to me. She hunts, she is a hockey mom. She is no b!mbo. And lastly....she is a beautiful woman and I'm not just speaking about her outer appearance. She cares. She is for the people. I think McCain made a great choice when he picked her.
Go McCain and Palin 2008!!! 
Everyone is talking about Palin? NOT.
McCain's self-destructive stunt sucked the air out of nothing. The big speech is still resonating for those 84,000 who filled the seats of the Mile High stadium and the 38,000,000 TV viewing audience. We have all noticed the deafening silence from the McCain camp on the 19 points Obama raised in the big speech, which comes as no surprise since we are used to seeing republicans run in the opposite direction as fast as their feet can carry them when confronted with any sort of intellectual challenge. If you, your party and McCain want to make jokes instead of taking the real issues seriously, you will just be digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. In fact, let me loan you the shovel.
Just because you choose to wimp out in the face of intelligent dialogue on the very grave issues that our nation face, some of which have been raised in these posts, does not mean they have disappeared. It just means that they do not exist to you. All of the articulate posts that have appeared today have been ignored by the stupefied and responded to by the informed. The DNC does not have to tell PUMA anything, but the attitude behind such a comment is just another example of the misguided, miscalculated notions McCain employed when he made his VP selection. Then again, the republicans have always been a smug bunch who have a tendency to underestimate their opposition.
These are grown women (PUMA) who have minds of their own and have the sense to be just as insulted as the rest of our gender who are not supporting a party who will outsource their jobs 'til the cows come home, kill any initiatives that guarantee fair/equal pay for equal work, treat women like political cattle, use them as tokens to pump life into a dead campaign and select a woman who would submit herself to this blatant and transparent exploitation….all for the sake of a policy that would attempt to wrestle free choice away from women to control their own bodies and reproductive functions and cram right-wing Christian dogma down their throats.
Hillary supporters and women with brains don't take kindly to these policies, anymore than they subscribe to the NeoCon positions of the republicans' latest hand-picked celebrity. The hypocrisy is breath-taking. McCain has gambled away his experience card and his celebrity card and played the gender card, all the while accusing the Obama camp of playing the race card….a political stunt that is already backfiring right in his face, and we are only 36 hours into the aftermath.
Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
What I LIKE about Palin .... flame away
I like the fact that she is NOT a Washingtonian ..... Obama took a big hit with me - all that talk about change and then he picks Biden -- who has been in Washington most of his life, who does the Democrat double talk better than most!
I like the fact that she stands up for what she believes in and fights the big boys when necessary.
I like the fact she is a normal person .... sure, they have some money but .... she has problems and is dealing with them. Her husband is blue collar worker, and to me that is a plus.
Do I think she is ready to be VP? I have to do more thinking and soul searching about that ...
Be honest about it -- they both chose their running mates based on what they hoped would help them win the most votes ... not who they really wanted or thought was most qualified!!
I wanted a McCain/Lieberman ticket myself.
BUT....... she does NOT deserve the crap she is taking. That is what is wrong with politics in this country.
The people who COULD do the best job -- WON'T EVEN RUN. They won't subject themselves to the BS they have to endure .....
JMHO .. I will be watching, reading and listening over the next few months. Tough decisions to be made!
Go McCAIN and PALIN!
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Then we would be as well off with Palin as with Obama...
in fact, better. He doesn't have any foreign policy experience either...nor any executive experience...has never run anything in his life. He is a rookie on all levels. She has made executive decisions. She ran a state with a big state budget. She made executive decisions every day. Obama has made zero. She is already ahead of him. So...what was your point again?
Does this bother you about Palin?
The first time she applied for a passport was in 2007.
Palin/Biden
I don't know, I heard Obama denounce bringing the kids into the politics and he seemed pretty forceful and pretty snarly himself. My opinion is the kids ought to be off limits but when the candidates (both of them) trot them out, that takes the "hands off" out of play for me. They can't have it both ways. If they really care about the kids, leave them out of the spotlight TOTALLY. Although I admit the little girl licking her hand and smoothing the baby's hair was pretty endearing..............BUT fairplay, don't show that and then say that it isn't fair to talk about the unwed daughter's pregnancy....so leave her off the camera, don't trot in the boyfriend to participate too. Ridiculous!
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