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Did you skip the part about the palpable surge of activity

Posted By: after Palin rallies? sm on 2008-11-17
In Reply to: I'm not happy - Old part-timer

Here's a news flash for you. They were exaggerating, distorting and, on a few occasions, LYING about Obama. That's beside the point. It was irresponsible and dangerous for a campaign or candidates to continue along a course of rhetoric that incites racism, bigotry, division, hatred and fear when it is patently evident in the blogosphere what the effect was....no help in their poll numbers (in fact, numbers going south) but HUGE spike in the "activity" in question. McCain and Palin were vetting their leadership capacity in the election. This is not leadership in any shapre, form or fashion. It is what it is...hate speech. THAT'S the bottom line.


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Again. Not about the skirt. Did you skip the part
There are 2 things sucking hot air this morning. One is Ike and the other one is that space between your 2 ears. When facing the aspect of loss of lives or those of our family members, a little indignation is in order. I am a female. "Lipstick" and "skirt" are things I wear and are associated with a female. I am not sexist against my own gender. HELLO. Ike is the scary one. SP, a pipsqueak. Go erect an alter in your living room, light some incense and candles and throw up her picture and worship to your heart's content, but give the rest of us a break from this for a day or two. Truly amazing that you cannot see the world that lays beyond this flash in the pan.
Did you skip the part about hate speech and assassignations?
nm
Broken Record...skip, skip, skip, skip.
I guess that is what you do when you run out of anything important to say!
Broken record, skip, skip, skip
You just keep repeating the same things over and over and over again. Please, find something new to say!
Different name, same seizure activity, every day like clockwork...nm

The desperation is palpable . . .
blissfully ignorant mean anything to you people (as well as gullible)?
There is plenty of conservative activity there. Stop whining.

Maybe it's your palpable contempt for liberals.

You seem fond of making extremely negative blanket statements about all liberals as though we all have the same views on every single issue, and you make it quite clear that in your perfect mind our views are just plain ignorant and wrong. Just because we sometimes get sick of hearing the same things from you over and over again does not necessarily mean we have contempt for ALL conservatives, just your incessant preaching of the same statements again and again.  Here are a few that I am familiar with:


Your parents were Democrats but would not recognize the party as it is today, abortion = dead baby, states should vote on it, it's murder, etc. (your religion tells you it's wrong so you are above reproach on this one right?), you think 30% to 40% off the top of your wages is enough and don't want any clueless liberals taking a penny more of your money for taxes since you assume we don't know how to fix some of the broken government programs and redirect money that's already coming in, you want Fred Thompson to win because he is pro-life, you cannot stand Hillary Clinton and think our country is screwed if she's elected, you think the American government is too dumb to figure out a way to make universal healthcare successful, you think Bush is smart (LOL, LOL) and that most of our problems aren't his fault even though he's been in charge of things in DC for the last 7 years, despite the fact that if things go wrong if Hillary's president THEN it WILL be her fault (but not George W's - not possible!), etc., etc.


I realize it is your right to post on this board, and I sometimes like to post on the conservative board as well, but I don't go over there and make blanket statements about ALL conservatives.  That's kind of like making broad, judgmental statements about a group of people based on skin color, in my opinion.  I may make negative statements about the Bush administration, but their actions have earned my dissaproval over several years of dismal failures, and therefore I feel that is justified.  So next time someone gets annoyed with arguing with you because you believe you cannot possibly be wrong, try to step back and ask yourself if we despise all conservatives or if we've just grown tired of another endless argument with you.


Campaign fatigue was palpable on that occasion.
that a presidential candidate would not know how many states whose electoral votes he is seeking.

A candidate's geography deficit on MAJOR US trade policy and thinking South Africa is a "region" in the "country" of Africa is positively frightening...sort of like that time Lieberman had to correct McC on the mixing up the concepts of insurgents with Taliban and not understanding the distinction betweenm Sunni and Shia Moslems.

Perhaps that account for the media's coverage of the two stories.
If this guy says the surge is working...
November 29, 2007
Read More: Iraq

Murtha: 'Surge is working'



Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) acknowledged that the surge of U.S. troops in Iraq is “working” after returning from a brief trip to Iraq last week, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

The comments, coming from a harsh critic of President Bush’s Iraq war policy, suggest there may be a shift in Democratic rhetoric on Iraq in light of recent reductions in violence in Iraq over the last several months.


Murtha made the comments today at his district office in Johnstown, Pa.

He added that the Iraqi government needed to better “take care of themselves” and achieve greater progress with political reconciliation, according to the Post-Gazette.

The statement is a marked shift from this July, when Murtha told CNN that he “dismissed” an op-ed by Brookings Institution analysts Ken Pollack and Michael O’Hanlon that the surge was beginning to make progress, declaring their comments were “an illusion.”


Well, at least he has the guts to step up and tell the truth after seeing it with his own eyes.  Good for him!


Stock Surge

March 13, 2009 8:42 AM


Citi Execs Make Killing On Stock Surge


Posted by Daniel Carty

 


Citigroup's recent upbeat news about its profitability has driven Wall Street's surge this week, but it also generated $2.2 million for four executives who bought millions of shares of company stock nine days ago, reports Bloomberg.

According to regulatory filings, director Roberto Hernandez bought 6 million shares on March 2 for an average price of $1.25. The stock touched a record low of $0.97 on March 5, but five days later CEO Vikram Pandit issued an internal memo saying the bank turned a profit over the first two months of the year. That news drove Citi shares up 47 percent to its Thursday close of $1.52, giving Hernandez a $1.7 million profit on paper, reports the news agency.

"You’re supposed to buy when everyone else is selling,” Bruce Foerster, a former Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. managing director who now runs South Beach Capital Markets in Miami, told Bloomberg. He said banks have internal monitoring systems to keep an eye on executive trades and prevent abuses.

Other executives include Latin America CEO Manuel Medina-Mora, who bought 1.5 million shares on March 3 at an average price of $1.24, Vice Chairman Lewis Kaden with 100,000 shares and controller John Gerspach with 65,000, reports Bloomberg.

In the last year, Citi's stock value has plummeted 95 percent as the company has suffered five straight quarters of losses.

Hernandez said he plans to step down from Citi's board after the bank's annual meeting in April but will keep his non-executive chairmanship of the company's Mexican bank, Banamex, reports Bloomberg.


Question about Obama surge???

I was wondering what you all think about this huge Obama surge?  Do you think it will continue and he will get the nomination?  He's become hotter than a pistol, and he has New Hampshire cinched for sure.  Quite a dramatic turn of events, and very exciting!!


Surge, Obama style

http://www.bigtenpoll.org/


http://www.wctrib.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D9407RK00



  1. Ohio - 12 point lead with Obama 53% / McCain 32% of vote, red in 2004

  2. Pennsylvania - 11 points with 52% / 41%

  3. Indiana - 10 points with 51% to 41%, red state in 2004

  4. Wisconsin - 13 points with 53% to 40%

  5. Iowa - 13 points with 52% to 39%, red sate in 2004

  6. Minnesota - 19 points with 57% to 38%

  7. Michigan - 22 points with 58% to 36%

  8. Illinois - 29 points with 61% to 32%

Red to Blue states



  1. New Mexico, 8 points

  2. Colorado, 5 points

  3. Virginia, 7 points

  4. Florida, 5 points

Red to Blue trivia:


Books sales


Network news audience rating (MSNBC, CNN and Fox), my favorite statistic. 


Whoooo, hormone surge. that was levity, even though she does annoy me, ....sm
And what is YOUR great point that you are making here? (Full moon tonight?)
skip them
Anger?  Nah, but I do wonder as over and over and over and over you post posts stating I have anger and hate and whatever which I wonder could they possibly be your problems as Im just trying to post my democratic beliefs and if you dont agree, dont read my posts. period..skip over them and post you republican spew..
I would rather skip the

hope for divine intervention and ask the government that collects our tax dollars to help our fellow citizens.  There must be some spare change from all the money spent on war they can direct to citizens in need.


 


They sure did. I think they are going to skip the NAU. sm
They are asking us to join the EU. All the power elites (bankers) are meeting November 15th - one world currency? They are not being secretive about it anymore and I think they will usher it in pretty quickly or we will get another false flag to terrorize us into accepting it.
skip my posts

This is the liberal board, you dont like my opinions, dont read them, its as easy as that.  Free country, freedom of speech..


skip the bashing for a second, sim
nm
Actually, I do skip over a lot of your posts
my point is that here you are telling us we should all stop and be respectful and not post about O until he's had a chance to grieve, and yet, up to this point, you have been posting.  So now, we should all stop and listen to the "messiah" and not post?  Give me a break!
So skip my posts, not hard to do.
And...the attacks start..cant get through a day without them, hun?  I think it means a lot to me that Bush's grandfather helped finance Hitler's war machine..and this is where Bush's family got his money.  It means major things to me.  As far as Kennedy, that is not who is our president, Bush is.  Means a lot to me..do I care if you think so or not, nope..so just move on to another post and delete this one from your brain..If anyone is going off the *deep end*, it is you for getting your panties all wadded up on this post..How's your BP?  Did I get it steaming yet?
Just in case you skip the message,
see post directly above
Most of us grownups would prefer to skip the HM
get down to business.
Did Obama skip Bush's speech? sm
Looks like he did.



Did Obama Skip Bush's Speech?
Posted by Michelle Levi| Comments10


As his predecessor, President Bush, said his final goodbyes to America on national television, President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle dined at the DC restaurant, Equinox Thursday night.

CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic, who waited outside the restaurant, reports that there is no indication whether or not Mr. Obama was watching President Bush's farewell remarks.

The President-elect departed the Blair house, located right across the street from the White House podium from which the president spoke, minutes before President Bush commenced.

A host at the restaurant tells CBS News' that the President-elect stopped by the only television in the high end establishment, a small screen at the bar, and watched for "a minute or two." The source said he did not notice what Mr. Obama was watching but that "no" it was not for an extended period of time.

No one from Obama's transition team has responded to CBS News' inquiries as to whether he was watching the address.








http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4726147.shtml
Did Obama skip Bush's speech? sm
Looks like he did. Very unbecoming, disrepectful side of Pres-elect Obama we're seeing.



Did Obama Skip Bush's Speech?
Posted by Michelle Levi| Comments10


As his predecessor, President Bush, said his final goodbyes to America on national television, President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle dined at the DC restaurant, Equinox Thursday night.

CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic, who waited outside the restaurant, reports that there is no indication whether or not Mr. Obama was watching President Bush's farewell remarks.

The President-elect departed the Blair house, located right across the street from the White House podium from which the president spoke, minutes before President Bush commenced.

A host at the restaurant tells CBS News' that the President-elect stopped by the only television in the high end establishment, a small screen at the bar, and watched for "a minute or two." The source said he did not notice what Mr. Obama was watching but that "no" it was not for an extended period of time.

No one from Obama's transition team has responded to CBS News' inquiries as to whether he was watching the address.








http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4726147.shtml
Great solution. Skip healthcare for the parents.
Because it is great for kids to be motherless and fatherless?  Right.  I actually do not have any health insurance, and since I put my kids first (who are covered btw), that is okay for now, but should I really have to do without?  I agree tax refunds would be good for people who pay health insurance, but I think a better solution would be for government to force the health insurance companies to offer more affordable, straight-forward plans.  WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO AGAINST FREE OR AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE FOR KIDS WHO DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE WHAT INCOME LEVEL/INTELLIGENCE LEVEL THEIR PARENTS ARE.  I am a broken record here.  I don't care what argument you give me, I will still believe that government should cover all kids, just like it already covers all poor people.  Does a poor adult deserve better healthcare than a middle-income child?  No, of course not, but God forbid someone raise your taxes (even though they will continue to rise regardless) to fund health care for kids.
You must skip all the "rabid" democrat discussion, and obviously don't count...sm
However, rather unfair to use the term "rabid" for any of us, don't you think?



I'd love to hear from the gal that was keeping score yesterday, to see who really rants and rails the most.

Seems to me the dems on this board far out rant the reps, and yet I don't see you calling the dems rabid.



rabid
One entry found.


Main Entry:
ra·bid Listen to the pronunciation of rabid
Pronunciation:
ˈra-bəd also ˈrā-
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin rabidus mad, from rabere
Date:
1594

1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion

2: affected with rabies
only part saved was the ignorant part
You can read the whole article.  This quote was saved to show what she said that was so stupid.
I think you are right, but only in part...sm
The bigotry is the other part. What escapes you was the FACT pointed out in this article that blanks are disproportionately denied parole when their white counter parts are allowed parole time for their crimes. No bigotry there...maybe not???
Another sad part...s/m
Yes, due in part to a "surge" there is less violence in Iraq at this time.  How long will this last? I certainly do not know. What will the situation be in Iraq in 2 to 5 years? I certainly don't know, but my gut tells me that you cannot go into another region of the world, bomb it extensively, ruin the lives of so many people, impose your will in trying to "plant the flag of democracy" in a region that does not want that, and have a good outcome.  It was a terrible mistake in invading Iraq, and I don't see a good or happy outcome long term. That's my opinion.
I got to this part
A reduction in the violence does not mean that things are “going well,” only that they are going “less badly.”

-And I loved it! Exactly.
Here's the sad part...

You came across this article.  You read it.  You believed it and posted it because:


a) it said what you believe and


b) we (liberals) must believe it too because it is from a Democrat who is against the war.


Did you not question the validity of the statement?  It came from an opposer, so it must be true?  Do you believe everything you read simply because it says what you want to hear?


If the article had stated his specific reasons for believing so, I would have been more inclined to believe to be true.  But again, it was a blanket article that says very little except his opinion.  I think the article is short sighted and your posting it most refutable.  


All that it did was convince me further that all your postings do is to try and take the very complex issue of Iraq and over simplify it to justify your war position.  Not unlike what the Bush administration has done from day one in regards to dealing with it.   


No one with half a brain believes that the progresses being made in Iraq is soley due to the troop surge, and there is plenty of documentation out there to disprove this theory. 


Wasn't that the intent of your posting?  Try to convince others that the surge is working?  It didn't work.  We are not that gullible. 


I am most happy and pleased about the small gains that are being made, and I recognize them for what they are.  But I am also realistic enough to know that those gains can disappear tomorrow regardless of the increased forces because there is no real stability established in the country.  Our military is not the one who is going to create that stability.  It is just a superficial band-aid at best.  It is going to remain a hostile territory until the Iraqi people decide for it not to be and that has to come from reconciliation on the three parties involved. It won't make any difference how many troops we have there. 


No I'm sure that part won't be on there. sm

I like to go to Huff and read the stuff, most it makes me laugh, the blogs; but ya gotta take it all with a grain of salt.  Thanks for geting my point about the whole post, it being about Fox news and not about McCain or Obama. 


I feel that with all of the side stuff, both sides are like little kids bickering, we are forgetting about everything that is important.  I am so tired of both sides bashing the other, it is a waste of time and money.


I think it is all part of the......... sm
"American Dream" picture and White House tradition as well. Remember Molly, Barbara Bush's dog? I think Molly got more attention than George did at times.
Part 2
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings.

The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.



Winston Churchill





The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the

taxidermist leaves the skin.



Mark Twain





The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill

the world with fools.



Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)





There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress.



Mark Twain





What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.



Edward Langley, Artist (1928 - 1995)





A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong

enough to take everything you have.



Thomas Jefferson

but part of what got us here
is many, many people abusing the system and getting free handouts when they should have been working.

The problem with our nation is the mentality that everyone is owed something. There is no pride in hard work anymore! And yes the rich thing they are owed loop holes, and the poor think they are owed handouts, and well the middle class is just p.o.'d at both of them!

Unfortunately if we start taxing the heck out of the rich they will just cut jobs from the middle class who pays taxes and then the poor who receive handouts won't be taken care of because we won't have any tax money left!

Before anyone gets mad, I understand completely that their are poor people who need help, and that doesn't bother me. The welfare system was originally created for single mothers though, not single mothers and their babies daddy and for the mothers to have 14 babies so the community to take care of them!

Here's a good idea for creating jobs: hire more caseworkers to investigate everyone on welfare and the ones that are abusing it lose it, which puts money back into the system for those that need it! The ones that abuse it should have to do community service to make up for it!


The sad part about this....(sm)
is that it's gonna get a lot worse than this before it gets better.  As far as staying in their homes until they get arrested, some of them may not have any other choice if they don't have anywhere to go.  If they go to jail, at least they have a roof over their heads.  I don't think Obama's housing plan covers those who have already been evicted, but they need some kind of relief.  At least ACORN is trying to help them, regardless of how they're going about it.  What a mess.
You mean the part about
many officials who fear that the government will squander its takings, and so propose returning the money to citizens in the form of tax rebates or cuts, an idea known as "cap-and-dividend".


Yep, I am "enlightened" alright!!

Got it now. Had to use only the .com part
.
now I don't get the part where I
tried to change the subject as usual. I don't believe I am familiar with you at all as I don't remember ever chatting with you before, an endeavor which I am starting to think is not worthwhile anyway. I left this board a long time ago because of the constant bickering and mudslinging. Perhaps I have made an error trying it again. You consequently have not answered a question I had. In a nutshell, would you have objected a few years ago had he directed these kids to a liberal webside? If you are objecting on this behalf you would be just as wrong.
AW, you are part of a team.
People get mad at me sometimes because they think I am too harsh with conservatives - and I'm talking about liberals and progressives. You know though what we're up against. You can't be too harsh with them. Look at what they do. They've been getting away with it for a long time and enough is enough. They refuse to act like normal human beings and they shouldn't be treated like normal human beings. You could run away from a swarm of angry bees or vacate a house that was overrun with cockroaches and you'd be right to do so - but please even if you leave here, don't stop pegging these people. These kind of cockroaches are trying to overrun the world. I know you know who they are and I hope you won't be able to stay silent when they come scurrying around! I really hope you will stay here and keep adding your voice. In no way on no day should these people be allowed to remain unchallenged.


I think we agree for the most part

however, from what I heard of the tapes I don't think this teacher was just throwing his opinions out there.  He was teaching them as fact.  I think even if he was transferred to a political science class then he would still need to tone down his rhetoric several notches.  You can teach any class from an objective point of view with very little effort.  Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, I think teachers need to be very careful about much of their own opinion they teach to students.


This is the part of a sermon that I can do without...sm
But this lady takes it to a whole new level. Passing out!? That's a class act.
Yep, I read that part...
and probably the difference in the cost is split between the difference in what the doctors make in both places, and if there is some sort of a cap on services...meaning, the insurance plan tells the doctor that is what you get for that particular service. No negotiation, no nothing. That is the only way I can think of that the streamlined disbursement system would work. If they do not have clerical personnel handling it, that tells me they have specific charges for specific services, regardless. That would be another sticky wicket on this side of the pond with the medical profession.

Another thing mentioned, and why the French physicians are okay to charge less...medical school in France is tuition-free. There will be another huge hit on the American taxpayer....can you even imagine the cost of that on the front end?

Like I said, it looks good on the face...one would be interested in knowing how long it took from inception to where it was "working well" and the dollar cost involved in the conversion and the ongoing maintenance.

I wonder, when they apply the "broad tax on earned and unearned income" if the French people will love it as much as they do now. It is a consideration...

Not meaning to be a fly in the ointment, kam...just looking at in stark reality.

Have a good day!
What part of this are you not understanding

I just read a bunch of posts below and am not disturbed, but maybe dismayed is a better word.  Whether you trust Obama or not because of his policies, voting record, political life, or whatever is your perogative (sp?), but to incorrectly be making statements not based on anything but milicious rumors spread around leads readers to believe the writer is a biggot and just does not want a black man (which I should state once more 1/2 black, 1/2 white) in the white house.  I have no doubt if more of the white race came out and he looked more white than black a lot of this would not be surfacing.


First - Obama is NOT muslim.  You can think all you want and hope it to be true but what part of the facts don't you understand.  How many times does he have to repeat he is a Christian.  Always has been.  Raised in a Christian home, white grandparents, white mother, went to catholic school, attended a Baptist church, married in a church (not Moslim), children baptised in a church.  To say he is a muslim is like saying McCain belongs to KKK after all he's a white dude.  Pullease.  Sure, his father was a muslim when he married Obama's mother but that's where it stops.  Obama never studied the muslim religon or went to muslim services.  My parents are catholics but I was not raised catholic and am not catholic.  His mother later remarried someone from Indonesia and Obama attended a catholic school.  Get your facts straight.  He never went to a muslim school or studied muslim studies and he is not muslim.  So what if the muslims like him, so do the Christians, Jews, Mormoms, Baptists, and many other religions!


Second of all on the flag thing.  Obama's plane has the American flag on it, are you upset because the flag is not so huge it covers the plane from one end to the next?  There's a flag there!  Also, just because he doesn't have an american flag plastered all over the place on everything does not mean he is not "American".  Have you seen him pledge to a flag of another country?  No, he pledges to the American flag!  As for the picture that he is standing not with his hand over his heart.  I can't tell you how many times I've said the pledge of allegience and I didn't have my hand over my heart every time.  Doesn't mean I'm not American.  He's not trying to get rid of the American flag, but for pete's sake it doesn't need to be plastered in every square inch of empty space. 


The poster who is not well informed about Obama's religion and trying to scare people into believing he's muslim when he's not is just plain wrong.  It doesn't "ruffle any feathers" because you are just wrong.  You may not want to "sugar coat any facts" but first you need to get the facts straight.  People don't "hate" republicans, and certainly not enough that they would want "anything" in there.  You could always put that statement on the other foot "People just hate the democrats so much they'll elect an old senile person to fill the position just as long as a democrat doesn't get in there".  That excuse just doesn't sit well.


I'm no "Obama-lover" and I won't be voting for him but not because of malicious rumors on the internet or false statements made by the republican side.  I'm basing my decision on his voting records and other issues that I don't agree with him on, certainly not from anything I get off the internet.  You know there are people on both sides who hate the other candidate so much they are posting fall information, but for anyone to spread this...all I can say is "shame on you".


What part of we got other issues do you
nm
actually, in answer to the last part,
I do believe I heard him say he was going to consult with his wife and grandmother! McCain was going to consult with the generals. Agree with the rest of your post.
PS. Forgot the part about "I don't think
nm
Yes....I was only replying to the part about using her name....
I think that is why people use her name. As to what she thinks, of course no one knows what she thinks...can guess, I suppose, but no one really knows.

I think the statement Obama made was great. He was forceful, no beating around the bush, I didn't think he did it because of politics, I think he meant it. I am not an Obama supporter, but the man was a class act when he made that statement. Hats off to him.
Wow. Looks like I missed that part.
One blurb just said Bush will speak via satellite and RG was "bumped." Still curious about why. Please post if you hear anything.
Medical was part of it......... sm
The foreign car workers have, I believe, national insurance coverage so that does not figure into the workers' benefits from the company. The figure being negotiated with the UAW was the amount that the foreign companies pay their workers. I don't believe health care would be a part of the package for the UAW.