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What about the hate speech and assassination threats?

Posted By: Is there not a single.....sm on 2008-11-17
In Reply to: Thank you - very well said (no message) - me

conservative who is willing to addess this directly?


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Hate speech
You are a racist a__hole.  Who cares what you think? 
No, more like all the hate speech
"energizes" fanatic fervor and mobilizes race-baiting hoaxters, cyberspace skinhead assassination plots and the other more than 500 threats to Obama. See link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6123157&page=1
Not hate speech, but truth, don't just
bury your head and ignore. Question his judgement.
Mine would be for a moratorium on hate speech.
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Secret Service to investigate hate speech
Now that campaign is a real class act.
Did you skip the part about hate speech and assassignations?
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Hate speech is an equal opportunity killer.
neither can you.
So you expect racist, bigoted hate speech from one side
The culture wars were waged from one side..the one whose campaign is so bankrupt that it has to resort to slamming the other candidate into the ground because they cannot come up with one single effective strategy to distinguish him from the incumbent lame duck and his scorched earth administration. What did you expect...a field of white flags. You asked for it and you got it. Motion denied.
Strangely bored with lies and hate speech. No need to stoop
the pubs are turning on each, jumping ship, bailing, pointing fingers at each other and basically disintegrating before our very eyes.
So, how many assassination plots against Palin
You motorcade attack shows perhaps 1/2 of a dozen protesters versus thousands upon thousands at Palin rallies being whipped up into a frenzy. Do you not distinguish between the actions of a few protestors and the actions of 2 candidates who are running for the highest office in the land? This is not Obama hate speech in this video. Can you grasp the difference? Also, Obama supporters did not start the negative campaigning...they responded in kind to an avalanche of pathetic attempts to swift boat Obama...a mistake dems did not intend to make twice.

Also, when an entire campaign declares war on the press/media during a national presidential campaign, they should have expected the response they got. McC put an unknown up there as VP candidate....it is only natural that she would be vetted in such a manner. Palin did not need any help from the media in making a complete fool of herself and it would have been irresponsible to treat her differently from any other candidate, especially just because she is a woman.

All of that is STILL beside the point. None of these so-called attacks on Palin have resulted in assassination conspiracies. NONE. You are behaving like a 5th grader and avoiding the issue. Assassination is FATAL....don't you get that?
Secret Assassination Squad?

Hersh: 'Executive assassination ring' reported directly to Cheney








Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday March 11, 2009












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Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an "executive assassination ring" throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dik Cheney.

The remark came out seemingly inadvertently when Hersh was asked by the moderator of a public discussion of "America's Constitutional Crisis" whether abuses of executive power, like those which occurred under Richard Nixon, continue to this day.

Hersh replied, "After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us."

Hersh told MinnPost.com blogger Eric Black in an email exchange after the event that the subject was "not something I wanted to dwell about in public." He is looking into it for a book, but he believes it may be a year or two before he has enough evidence "for even the most skeptical."

Stories have been coming out about covert Pentagon assassination squads for the last several years. In 2003, Hersh himself reported on Task Force 121, which operated chiefly out of the Joint Special Operations Command. Others stories spoke of a proposed Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group.

As Hersh noted in Minnesota, the New York Times on Monday described the Joint Special Operations Command as overseeing the secret commando units in Afghanistan whose missions were temporarily ordered halted last month because of growing concerns over excessive civilian deaths.

However, it appears that Hersh is now on the trail of some fresh revelation about these squads and their connection to Vice-President Cheney that goes well beyond anything that has previously been reported.


Eric Black's blog posting, which includes an hour-long audio recording of the full University of Minnesota colloquy, is available here.


Secret Assassination Squad?

Hersh: 'Executive assassination ring' reported directly to Cheney








Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday March 11, 2009












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TwitThis TwitThis

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an "executive assassination ring" throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dik Cheney.

The remark came out seemingly inadvertently when Hersh was asked by the moderator of a public discussion of "America's Constitutional Crisis" whether abuses of executive power, like those which occurred under Richard Nixon, continue to this day.

Hersh replied, "After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us."

Hersh told MinnPost.com blogger Eric Black in an email exchange after the event that the subject was "not something I wanted to dwell about in public." He is looking into it for a book, but he believes it may be a year or two before he has enough evidence "for even the most skeptical."

Stories have been coming out about covert Pentagon assassination squads for the last several years. In 2003, Hersh himself reported on Task Force 121, which operated chiefly out of the Joint Special Operations Command. Others stories spoke of a proposed Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group.

As Hersh noted in Minnesota, the New York Times on Monday described the Joint Special Operations Command as overseeing the secret commando units in Afghanistan whose missions were temporarily ordered halted last month because of growing concerns over excessive civilian deaths.

However, it appears that Hersh is now on the trail of some fresh revelation about these squads and their connection to Vice-President Cheney that goes well beyond anything that has previously been reported.


Eric Black's blog posting, which includes an hour-long audio recording of the full University of Minnesota colloquy, is available here.


There were assassination attempts on WHITE Presidents. Did the assassinators
think they might not really be white? or that they were too young to run a country?
How many threats do you think

we get?  I mean really.  Do you think that this was the only threat that we have ever had and we ignored it?  As for what Bush did after 9/11....I think he was 100% right bombing Afghanistan.  However, I don't totally agree with going into Iraq.


I just think that if we were attacked that McCain would be the one to hit them back instead of Obama....now now....don't do that Osama Bin Laden....that isn't nice....can't we talk about this. 


They don't make threats. SM
What's wrong with having guns?  They aren't wave them around.  They are proudly displaying them.  I guess it's more of a man thing. We have lots of guns but I am not really into them.  I don't care if someone else is though.  And that has nothing to do with war.  This is a typical liberal response to someone upholding their rights under the Constitution.  Silence the dissenters, take away the guns, remove all Christian religion from sight.  It's pretty obvious by your post that is what is going on with you.  It's called ignorance. 
If the threats are true (sm)
If the threats against his life are true, then we have a lot more to worry about in this country than terrorists. We need to work on our own soil to "get right." My mom (62) is a Democrat, wants Hilz to win, but will vote Obama. She also fears he will be assassinated. I just hate to believe this country is still like that, and maybe that is my naivety (I'm 36).
Obama has more threats than other

WASHINGTON – Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.


Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.


And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.


In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.


Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.


The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.


The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.


Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.


A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."


There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:


• In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.


• Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.


In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.


In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.


Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.


One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."


It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.


"The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.


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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington and Jerry Harkavy in Standish, Maine contributed to this report.


Well you had to know the threats were coming next from this bunch..nm

Fear, intimidation, threats.

Sounds like the Bush machine is working overtime. 


Just as I predicted yesterday, here come the death threats!

Unbelievable!  Just yesterday, I posted this in response to Starcat below:


Bush only needs one more appointment to basically stack the Supreme Court in his favor for decades to come, long after he is gone.  Wouldn't surprise me if good ol' Pat Robertson starts *praying* for another vacancy on the Court (like he did before Rehnquist died), followed by the *mysterious* death of one of the more liberal judges.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.


Today, I read this.  The entire article can be found at http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060315163009990004), but here is a paragraph from it:


According to Ginsburg, someone in a Web site chat room wrote: Okay commandoes, here is your first patriotic assignment ... an easy one. Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and O'Connor have publicly stated that they use (foreign) laws and rulings to decide how to rule on American cases. This is a huge threat to our Republic and Constitutional freedom. ... If you are what you say you are, and NOT armchair patriots, then those two justices will not live another week.


I'm saddened but not at all surprised.  This just illustrates how deranged and dangerous these people truly are.  Pat Robertson must be praying really REALLY hard.


What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point
completely, that is utter ridiculousness. the poster meant I think people at McCain's rallies are calling for Obama's death - are you going to stick with that thought, that he should be able to take it? Could not disagree with you more
"kill him" speech is not acceptable free speech - it is against the law - nm
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So how many threats on Palin's life is the Secret Service
THAT'S what!
Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case...sm
Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case

April 15, 2007
BY DAVE NEWBART Staff Reporter/ dnewbart@suntimes.com
The Rev. Jesse Jackson has been hit with a series of bomb threats since leading a charge to get shock jock Don Imus fired.

Jackson said he fielded a call Saturday morning urging him to watch his back and warning him to stay away from Rainbow/PUSH headquarters on the South Side.

Friday, a Jackson staffer took a call from someone who claimed to have planted a bomb at the headquarters at 50th and Drexel. The building was evacuated about 12:30 p.m., and police swept the building with bomb-sniffing dogs. Nothing was found.

Jackson said he has received 10 to 12 threats starting Wednesday or Thursday. The calls have gone to his office, his home and his cell phone. Although he hasn't fielded most of the calls, he said he believes there are different people behind them.

A police spokeswoman said an investigation is ongoing.

In New York, meanwhile, WCBSTV.com reported the Rev. Al Sharpton has also received death threats after criticizing Imus.

Imus was fired from his radio show for calling members of the Rutgers women's basketball team nappy-headed hos.
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
.
the speech

I heard, I am very old and I suffered greatly at the hands of the enemy.  Did I ever tell you I was a POW?  I suffered greatly.  Please feel sorry for me and vote for me.  I deserve it.  I suffered greatly.  No economic plan, no health insurance plan, just  I suffered greatly.  Sarah's speech was John suffered greatly.  No one else has suffered as much as he.  Joe Biden's loss of family members and Obama's struggle with identity because of being mixed race do not qualify.  This is an election about the issues of the american people not a Queen for A Day episode where the person with the saddest story gets a new washing machine.


 


 


The Speech to Nowhere
http://www.truthout.org/article/palins-speech-nowhere
Anybody see O's speech about

10:30 this morning? If he can accomplish half of what he talked about, I'll have a little more faith in him.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-to-ta.html


So much for your pre-speech intelligence

He did talk about the war.... Hey, wait a minute, your intelligence was bad....You lied to us!!!   You twisted the information to fit your post...Don't you want to apologize and tell us all what a terrible mistake you made!!!!       How does it feel to be called a liar without justification?


Freedom of speech, LOL
Freedom of speech?  To get up there and state you believe A WHOLE SOCIETY OF PEOPLE, A WHOLE ETHNICITY OF PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABORTED?  Yet, you people jump all over Cindy Sheehan when she rags on Bush, LOL..You jump all over anti war people when we scream..STOP THIS WAR..But NOW you are stating freedom of speech..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..Better to shut up now about Bennett, cause you sure are looking silly..
and this wise speech comes from a man

who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.


Ahhh the credibility....


That's the only line you took from the speech...sm
But you think Bush who admits that he did drugs - obviously inhaled or sniffed, and was an alcoholic is a living testimony of credibility. Is there a double standard here?
Ah, yes. Freedom of speech.

I remember it well. 


It was a cute joke.  In case any of you missed it before it was removed from the board, one of the many places it can be found is http://www.justpetehere.com/2004/11/george_bush_pas.html.


Better do it quickly, though, because this post is sure to be removed as soon as the Cons start whining again.


freedom of speech

 Check out the St. Pete Times, Sunday, 11/13/05, The Perspective, article by Robin Blummer. Sorry I don't have the link but it is easy to find. Talk about scary. By the way, I see that there are a number of comments to posts listed on the board but they are not available to see. Is this a new policy...we know people read or responded but we can't see what the response is?


the speech, annotated...
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0111-25.htm

Long but worth the read.
do you or do you not believe in freedom of speech....
and do you or do you not believe in the right of people to have opinions different from those and voice them? Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts? You might be more comfortable in Russia where it is the policy of the counry to control thought that does not agree with the party line.
Do you believe in free speech?
If so, please allow me mine.
If you believe Obama's SPEECH,
nm
her speech, and debate later. I think
nm
Freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is freedom to all.

When watching TV if there is something I don't like I change the channel. I would suggest you do the same on this board instead of trying to silence those you don't agree with.

Keep on postin sam - you must be hitting home if there are those who want to silence you.
acceptance speech

was written by Bush speech writer.  But there is not connection between the McCains and the Bushs.  Mere coincidence.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.


 


FYI, the prompter went out during her speech
at the convention -- but you didn't know it by watching her! I have every confidence she can handle whatever comes her way. she is a quick study, with common sense and intelligence.
So is freedom of speech.
If the lady wants to talk about religion, so what? It's not like she's gonna get into office and make us all abide by her religion - Pa-leeeze!!!
Freedom of Speech? Think Again.

See 2nd link. 


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  • What a great speech........
    so handsome, with his captivating smile, terrific speaker, cool under pressure, so humble, refined and much more...CHANGE IS HERE, CONGRATULATIONS to the American people and the world.
    I didn't see his speech
    But I did read an article in the news.  I  notice that Bush's "help" is going to require union workers to get in line with non-union workers by the end of next year (can you say PAY CUT).  I do agree with doing away with the job bank.  Not one word did I read about his demanding deep cuts for the EXECS!!!!  Of course they are his buds and they need those private jets and billions in bonuses.  Makes me sick.