Home     Contact Us    
Main Board Job Seeker's Board Job Wanted Board Resume Bank Company Board Word Help Medquist New MTs Classifieds Offshore Concerns VR/Speech Recognition Tech Help Coding/Medical Billing
Gab Board Politics Comedy Stop Health Issues
ADVERTISEMENT




Serving Over 20,000 US Medical Transcriptionists

Reality: Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy,

Posted By: Jackson, TR, FDR, ....sm on 2008-11-17
In Reply to: Time to come back to reality - see message - me

Truman, Nixon x2, Ford x2, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton x2, Wx3....all targets of assassination, 4 successful....not to mention RFK, MLK, Medgar Evers, etc.

Assassinations happen. I have seen 17 of them in my own lifetime. Of the 17, at least 8 of them were directly related to hate speech. What is REALLY frustrating is to witness the same tired cycle play itself out over and over and over again and have people attempt to extract the hate speech out of the equation. Intentional or not, it was there during this campaign out of the mouths of McCain and Palin, their campaign staff and their followers. To deny this is insane and indicates to me that the value of human life for some is very tenuous and equivocal.


Complete Discussion Below: marks the location of current message within thread

The messages you are viewing are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu


Other related messages found in our database

O reads Lincoln. O admires Lincoln.
O identifies with Lincoln (a Republican, I might add). O refers to Lincoln. O researches Lincoln. O appreciates Lincoln. O values Lincoln. O respects Lincoln. O holds Lincoln in high regard.

Nobody said O was Lincoln, but because of the affinity he has for Lincoln, it is very likely you will hear O linked with Lincoln hundreds and hudreds of times more. O. Lincoln. Get used to it.
He's no Lincoln
Getting sick of people interjecting Lincoln's name as though it will convince people that Obama is like Lincoln. He is NO Lincoln. Far from it.

Second Rahm Emanuel is advising the O and the O is doing what Emanuel says.
No, he's not Lincoln...(sm)

However, he does seem to be influenced by Lincoln's approach to government--the same argument that pubs made that he was influenced by Ayers.


He's doing whatever Emmanuel says?  I think I'll wait for some proof of that.


Then they should try Lincoln, too.
For approving Sherman's march to the sea.

Honestly, BB, are you getting all your news via msnbc suppositories these days?
No better than Ted Kennedy is getting
.
Rembering A. Lincoln s/m

This might be a good time to do some research on the Civil War and it's causes.  It actually started years before the war.  The agricultural South demanded cheap labor (sound familiar?) and the more industrialized North trampled States rights (sound familiar???)  Members of Congress whupped up on each other (Republicans vs. Democrats???)  Eomotions ran high (sound familiar?????).   End result:  The saddest war of all time with brother fighting against brother, father against son. 


My G-Grandfather died on the battlefield where the December re-enactment takes place, one of some 2700 soldiers on both sides to die.  Family stories handed down tell that my G-Grandmother and other women would carry food to the soldiers in the evening when they stopped fighting and the Union and Confederate soldiers would talk and exchange tobacco together.  The Civil War was not entirely about slavery.


Do we see history about to repeat itself?  I think it is a serious possibility.  We had all better stop fighting about Republican/Democrat and get to the issues.  No one is talking in this election about serious issues...like illegal immigration and its impact on jobs and the economy. 


To the poster below with whom I have been talking about good ole Southern food, our menu will be pinto beans, johnny cakes and dried apple cobbler, prepared in cast iron pots, way better than the maggot-infested salt pork and hard-tack the soldiers ate as food was in very short supply.  There will be other food vendors preparing more modern fare.


Well there is always the Lincoln bedroom....
LOL. Bill and Hill rented that one out for campaign contributions. LOL. Sigh.
You could start by considering Lincoln's
and take it from there. Keep in mind, Lincoln was republican. IMHO, Obama could do worse when it comes to mentors.
Is Ted Kennedy in charge..
of how many evacuees his state takes in?  I guess I didn't realize that!  Could you explain that further?
kennedy does not give?
Does not put his money where his mouth is?  Do you have an inside as to how he spends and donates his money?  I dont but I would suspect coming from the Kennedy family that he donates pretty significantly to situations that need it..If you dont know for sure, then I would suggest you not post derogatory posts about the Kennedy family..if you do know for sure, post the information here, just dont rant and rave without proof..Thanks!
I can hardly think of a poor man who ever ran for president. Lincoln maybe.
My Republican values are just as strong as they ever were.  But I have been disappointed in President Bush at times.  I will stick with him though.  But not without question.
Lincoln and civil rights

Although you are correct that Lincoln was a Republican, in those days, Republican was not what it is today, nor Democrat, no Tory nor Whig, etc. How could it be, the times they have-a-changed. He called himself a Democrat many times during his career and was extremely anti-slavery but did not fall in with the abolitionists. What with Republicans, Democrats, Whigs, Jacobins, etc. it would be really difficult to say one party abolished slavery.People from all sides supported and opposed it. Lincoln just happened to be president and the **War of Northern Aggression** quelled those who had seceded.


 Lincoln was very anti-war, did not like the idea at all so the civil war was distasteful to say the least. He did, however, have no problem enlisting and personally fighting in the European versus Sac Indians war which makes him not my most favorite president...but then, everyone makes mistakes. He did that in his younger years.


The civil rights act I have always believed rests with LBJ. He is not my favorite either. In fact, I did not like him much at all, but he did, in his predecessor's memory, carry the civil rights act to fruition. I remember him saying on the day that he signed it, the south is lost to Democrats as of this day. Here is a link of the timeline. It is pretty straightforward, comes from LBJ for kids site so it is not overly lengthy or boring.


http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/lbjforkids/civil_timeline.shtm


omg. Lincoln and roosevelt. Nuff said. nm
nm
There's a special on PBS tonight about Lincoln

The author stated Lincoln suspended the right of habeus corpus and the constitution to justify his causes....so maybe this is why O is following along those lines.


Hope it's not on late. I can't stay awake past 8:30 anymore.


 


Try and keep up, gt. Robert Kennedy Jr is saying Bush and the sm
governor of Mississippi caused the hurricaine.  Yes, he actually said that. No surprise here as the liberals have become the party of blame blame blame and take no responsibility. 
I just heard Ted Kennedy's state
took 100 displaced persons today.  Does he have enough room?
Kennedy wasn't treated like this
This adoration is on a whole different level. And he's only human, who wouldn't have their head turned by all this devotion? If he turns into some kind of egomaniac, we'll have only ourselves to blame.

And I agree with the other posters about his snooty wife. I'm sure she'll be right there, telling him he's all that, and more.


A message from Abraham Lincoln-1863

Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving Proclamation


(1863)






The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.

No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.

It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.


By The President: Abraham Lincoln

William H. Seward, Secretary of State



On 2/16 on history channel a program about Lincoln
Think its called Stealing Lincolns body. Looks interesting.

I'll be sure to watch this one tonight. I saw it advertised the other night when I was watching Sense and Sensibility.
You forgot to mention FDR, Kennedy and Eisenhower, to name a few...
....who had their own sleazy affairs to hide.  What is the obsession with Clinton?
Derogatory remarks about the Kennedy family.
Oh you mean like the fact that Joseph Kennedy thought Hitler was a great man.  That fact?  Or that he made much of his money bootlegging.  That fact?  Or maybe that Ted killed a young woman and was never prosecuted. That fact?  Okay.  I got it now. 
You just described John Kerry and Ted Kennedy!! LOLOL

Kerry and Kennedy rich, for sure - selfish, not.
Kennedy has stayed in public service for these many decades as has Kerry, when they could be doing something else. But instead of spending their time in Congress creating new ways to make themselves richer and thinking up new ways to take over the country and bully all opposition into fascist submission, they actually serve their constituents and take a stand against the rampant Republican pilfering and self-serving crony capitalism. It's that old noblesse oblige thing that old money has, you know? - totally and conspicuously absent in the peon Republican gamebook.
Why did the Kennedy's have ties to organized crime?

Why was the Texas Democratic party of Lyndon Johnson horribly corrupt?


Why was Lyndon Johnson's election to the senate in 1948 won by massive voter fraud?


Why did Lyndon Johnson insert language into the IRS code in 1954 that prohibited non-profits, including churches, from endorsing or opposing candidates for political office. In effect, this thoroughly corrupt man used the power of the IRS to silence his opposition. Unfortunately, it worked. Why?  His disservice to religious freedom has yet to be undone.  Why?


How did Kennedy defeat Nixon in Illinois? 


Just rhetorical questions.


 


This article explains Sen. Kennedy's Plan

Here's part of the article I was thinking of:


(Page 1) "Senate Democrats, led by Edward M. Kennedy , are developing health care overhaul legislation that would require most Americans to have insurance and most employers to help pay for it (my emphasis) and would also require insurers to provide a basic level of coverage and limit their profits..."


(Page 2) "Kennedy’s bill includes mandates for individuals, requiring them to be insured, and for employers, requiring them to provide insurance to their employees or help pay for it — a policy known as “pay or play.” Both individuals and employers would be subject to penalties if they do not comply, but the exact amounts are blank in the bill text obtained by CQ. The penalties for employers would be tied to inflation...."


Read the whole thing here:


http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003136450


Lol, tell that to the Kennedy's and Bill Gates. Gimme a break. nm

geez. Teddy Kennedy left a woman to drown....
walked off from the scene of an accident where a death occurred....and we all know he has had his problems over the years while drunk. His son had substance abuse problems. If you Google senators and reps who have had DWIs no telling what you would find. The man is probably going to release everything up to and including the last time their dog burped to keep you vultures from digging it up and feasting on it. Sheesh. Why not heed your candidate's statement and stop already? lol
Unfortunately the reality is....

that liberals get a HUGE PASS when it comes to verbal spillage.  I've heard some of the most hateful things come out of Howard Dean and all we hear about is what Karl Rove said, and a lot of it was taken out of context.  He didn't say ALL Democrats, he said SOME liberals, i.e. Move On.Org and George Soros.  There WERE groups demonstrating against the war in Afghanistan.  That was a fact.  And how does the Democratic party get by with a former KKK member (Byrd)?  That wouldn't be allowed for 2 seconds on the Republican side.


Reality of O? (sm)

Please feel free to enlighten us.


You should try to relax.  Music always helps me.  Try this.  LOL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBk32JsV9l8


Reality
You obviously saw Senator John Ensign (R-NV) on Meet The Press this morning along with Congressman Barney Frank (not Barney Fife). Ensign says that Frank is "fearmongering" and says that state budgets are "bloated" and that we should be "cutting back."

Well, how's your state doing, Senator Ensign? The state of Nevada has to cut 38% from its state budget. The Nevada schools are facing a 15% cut. Outpatient oncology services at University Medical Center in Las Vegas have CLOSED because of state Medicaid cuts. If you're lucky, maybe your gynecologic oncologist will open a chemotherapy center in his clinic's storage room like Dr. Nick Spirtos did.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-statecuts8-2009feb08,0,457898,full.story

That's only one example. Do yourself a favor and read the article. There are plenty more examples in plenty of other states. The idea that states need to "cut back" in the midst of a recession is absolutely idiotic and so is Senator Ensign.
Reality?
The majority of voters in the United States have dismissed your idea of reality and voted against it. Maybe it is you who needs to get a cup of coffee and join the majority.
This is reality

Reality
Reality and Glenn Beck have nothing to do with each other.
You are the one not dealing in reality
there's so many wrong statements in your post I wouldn't know where to begin in rebutting them...  I pity you and your pessimistic outlook on our country.  You are one very bitter and jaded person.  Just like Cindy Sheehan who has to blame someone else for her life's problems.  I'm sorry her mother had a stroke, and I hope that everything is okay, but I think Cindy Sheehan needs to take this as a sign to take care of her family that is living...which I'm glad she is doing right now for the sake of her mother.
Reality check
You just cannot stay off this board can you?  Don't you get it?  We don't want to debate with you.  We are just as set in our beliefs as you are in yours.  No one here is interested in anything you have to say, so please, get a life or at least stay on your own board.
For Reality Check. sm
I think my post did sound a little hateful.  I am sure you are a very nice person.  You see, this is a country divided, and I am certain I am not the only one on this board, to feel that GWB has had a lot to do with that.  Like I said, I am sure you are a nice person.  However, this is a country divided, nothing will make me change my mind about this administration.  I fear for either party that gets in next time, if it is a democrat, they cannot hardly get ahead because of the blunders made by the current administration.  In a nutshell, I sincerely feel like this country has never been more divided, and perhaps that is why the moderators decided to split the two boards to begin with.  Post all you want, you will get no more nasty responses for me.  I however will feel at liberty to post jokes when I feel like it.  I lurk on the conservative board, but do not post.  There are many right-winged jokes and cartoons over there and I do not post my opinion - because that is their board.
Reality check.
October 2001 to February 2003. That’s how long it took to sell the war to Congress, democrats and republicans alike, and to the American public, according to Colonel Sam Gardiner (USAF, Ret.). Not some left-wing wacko. Just a high-rank retired Air Force colonel who conducted a study.

A Strategy of Lies: How the White House Fed the Public a Steady Diet of Falsehoods
http://www.rense.com/general44/50.htm.

The power of propaganda. They bought it, hook, line and sinker. That was then and this is now, and what we know NOW is that Bush lied. No WMDs. No Iraq-sponsored terrorism. It's still about the oil.

BTW, there is a Bechtel-commissioned BTC pipeline in Georgia, "secured" by US troops, who also provide advisors and training to Georgia military. Russia doesn't like US-trained troops in its backyard either. You won't hear it on Fox, but Russia has not confined it's invasion to Ossetia. They targeted that pipeline 18 hours ago. Sometimes you follow the money. Other times, you follow the oil.

Fox News, YouTube, nohussein.org? Consider the source. Abortion is legal. The issue is choice. Some choose not to do it, others choose to exercise their right to choose. Those who do appreciate any politician who is willing to go to the mat to uphold Roe vs Wade. Unlikely to be reversed anytime soon and, in this election, far down on the list of priorities.

Reality check #2.
No need to wonder what the colonel would have to say about that uranium since the issue was extensively scrutinized in his study.

It has been known for decades that Iraq had a reactor at Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center and a nuclear materials testing facility at Osiraq, damaged in a bombing by the Iranians in 1980 and disabled by Israeli air attacks in 1981 in an operation that was condemned by the US at the time since we were backing Saddam against Iran. Ten years later, these same facilities were completely destroyed by Americans in the 1991 Gulf War, 12 years before Bush sold his version of Gulf War II to the American public.

This would be the same 500 metric tons of reactor grade uranium (the kind used as fuel in producing clean electricity). It was NOT weapons grade uranium. Being well documented by the UN and the IAEA, this stash of uranium was legal and had been controlled and monitored in accordance with international law since the Gulf War. The uranium was removed from Iraq and transported to Canada to be used in their nuclear energy facilities. The inspections team found NO EVIDENCE of any yellowcake in Iraq dating from after 1991. So if the terrorists had managed to get their hands on it, the US would be held accountable since they destroyed the reactor, knew about the stock piles, returned to occupy Iraq in 2003, but were too busy killing Iraqis to bother with disposing of the uranium for 5 full years. No wonder they were keeping it a secret.

Speaking of yellowcake uranium and propaganda, back in January 2003, Bush accused Saddam of trying to buy it from Niger, based on Italian, British and French intelligence sources. Notice this occurred between October 2001 and February 2003, as stated in the previous post, when Bush was busy doing anything and everything he could to dupe the Congress and public into supporting his war. The polite word for this intelligence is “faulty.” A more accurate description would be forgery. The colonel talks about this too, but his study is a bit obscure and hard to locate. Google Niger uranium and Iraq and this link pops up in case anybody wants to read more about that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries

As for the chemical and biological weapons used against his own people, that would be the Kurdish town of Halabja in March 1988, when 7000 civilians died and in 14 other Kurd villages. The reason we knew about those chemical and biological weapons is because the US sold them to Saddam to use against the Iranians (as did the UK, Germany, France and others). Check out the Senate committee's reports on US Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq from a 1992 report. Reagan and Bush Sr. sold Iraq anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs, botulism, germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia, Salmonella, E. coli, brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene, to name a few.

From 1991 to 1998 UNSCOM inspected and scoured Iraq, accounting for some 95+% of the known agents before they left. Despite all the suspicions put forth by the Bush propaganda machine in 2003 and the best search efforts of the US since the occupation, no evidence of the remaining inventory has been uncovered.

Like it or not, abortion has been legal in the US for 35 years. The answer to your questions about choice is simple. It’s the mother’s body, not yours, not the government’s. Her choice. Nobody’s else’s. That is the law. The law does not force abortion for those who do not believe in it, nor does it prevent it for those who do. Morality can be legislated after the American theocracy has been established. Until then, it is about choice.

Bush’s contempt for the courts is no secret. They do not simply uphold law. They also interpret it and have discretionary authority to issue decisions and opinions. The constitution provides us with 3 executive branches for a reason. It’s called checks and balances. No candidate or president should be opposed to seeing that part of the constitution upheld.

Running From Reality
 If there was one pre-eminent characteristic of the Republican convention this week, it was the quality of deception. Words completely lost their meaning. Reality was turned upside down.

    From the faux populist gibberish mouthed by speaker after speaker, you would never have known that the Republicans have been in power over the past several years and used that titanic power to lead the country to its present sorry state.


http://www.truthout.org/article/running-from-reality


Rezko Reality

Summary
On the defensive over the extent of multiple McCain homes, the GOP candidate strikes back. But his TV spot gives an oversimplified and misleading account of how Obama bought his own $1.6 million house in Chicago.


The ad says Chicago power broker Tony Rezko got "political favors" including "$14 million from taxpayers." But there's no evidence of any connection to the Obama home purchase. The $14 million was to build apartments for low-income seniors. Obama wrote a letter supporting the "worthy" project, but both men say Rezko didn't ask for the letter.


It says Rezko "purchased part of the property [Obama] couldn't afford." Rezko's wife did buy an adjoining tract but later sold the land at a profit. Obama paid market price for his home.


McCain launched the attack after Obama ran one capitalizing on McCain's inability to recall for an interviewer how many homes the McCains own. Obama's ad says it's seven. The best tally we've seen puts the figure at eight, counting all the apartments and homes owned by McCain's wife, Cindy, and various family trusts, for themselves and their children.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/154782


REALITY? Do you know who deregulated
xx
Not a break from reality,
but more a trance.  Freaks me out.  Thanks for the statements you posted.  This is not a normal election, but more of a movement.  Hope it will not be like it was in the 60's with riots going on.  Getting more and more like the Book of Revelations.  A person who will deceive the nations with persuasive language and have massive christ-like appeal and people will flock to him as he will promise false hope and world peace, but destroys everything.  FREAKS ME OUT.  He keeps changing his mind and now he and his campaign want to try to kill the expectations of what he has been stating for months.  Beyond creepy.  This is not your normal every four year election. 
You need a dose of reality.
nm
EU reality check....
1. Member states in the EU all maintain their separate set of laws. Members of the EU Parliament are elected every 5 years by all citizens of the EU. It operates in much the same way as the US federal system.
2. Member states are responsible for their own defense. Many, but not all, are members of NATO (by choice). Nascent EU military forces (as opposed to separate national forces) have engaged in peacekeeping missions and humanitarian aid missions in Africa, the former Yugoslavia and in the Middle East.
3. Each member state maintains it's own legal system. EU laws are analogous to our US federal laws. No threat here. As a matter of fact, national sovereignty is stronger under this system than states' rights are in the US. EU law mainly relates to enforcement of treaties, the environment and fundamental rights of member states.
4. 15 of the 27 EU countries have adopted the euro....again, by choice: Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia and Spain. I hate to break this to you, but the Euro already is worth more than the US dollar (1 Euro = 1.2652 US dollars)....they must be doing something right.
5. The EU has PROGRESSIVE policy oversight on it's own agriculture, energy and infrastructure (as it should be) and is competitive in world markets based on the value of their currency...again, higher in value than the US dollar.

No need to "research" the NAU. I know what it is and I know what it is not. The NAU is a THEORETICAL region. It does not exist. There are no current government plans in Canada, the US or Mexico to form such an entity. NAFTA is the closest manifestation of the CONCEPT of an NAU.

Your version of the NAU is nothing more to me than a conspiracy theory...paranoia on a grand scale. I have a few questions for you. Ever heard of evolution. How about survival of the fittest? Do you believe in these concepts? Here's the deal. The world we live in now is not the same world your parents and grandparents grew up in...especially in terms of population and technology. The survival of the human race and of the nations depends upon their ability to adapt and CHANGE. IF (and I emphasize the word IF) there is a better economic or governing system around the evolutionary corner, then no amount of belly-aching and conspiracy theory spin is going to keep it at bay. PROGRESS HAPPENS.

Reality check.........sm

So you don't need to research the NAU?  I hope the sand will protect your little brain when all heck breaks loose.


The concept of the NAU has been actively pursued by our government (Bush) and the government of Canada and Mexico since 2005.  Check it out.


The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:



At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.


What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:



In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.


Here is the link if you want to read more.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965#continueA


I cannot believe there are people living today who actually believe that there are not hidden agendas in our government and that "we the people" actually know what is going on.


Thank you for the dose of reality.
It seems people like to think in exponentials lately. 'Bush was the worst president in the history of time.' Obama will face 'the most daunting challenge in the history of the country.'

Goodness sakes. Are these posters just so bubble-wrapped in their protective cocoons that they don't know anything about US History?

Our country was forged with blood and steal. This ain't a country for whimps. But I guess we'll find out now what happens when we elect a man who feels it is necessary to apologize for America instead of defend it.
Yup. The one's that's based in reality.
As in the real deal.
Reality check...(sm)
While I do think that Blago needs to go down, I think it should be recognized that this happens in politics ALL THE TIME.  That pay to play mentality among politicians is nothing new.  I don't think Blago did anything worse than most do.  His big mistake was getting caught.
Reality check............ sm
Did you even read the article? It says in part...

"The Obama administration moved on Friday to undo a last-minute Bush administration rule granting broad protections to health workers who refuse to take part in abortions or provide other health care that goes against their consciences."

It goes on to say: "The rule prohibits recipients of federal money from discriminating against doctors, nurses and other health care workers who refuse to perform or assist in abortions or sterilization procedures because of their “religious beliefs or moral convictions.” "

This sounds to me like providers who refuse to do abortions or provide other health care that goes against their religious/moral/personal convictions will lose protection from "discrimination" (read prosecution) by "recipients of federal money" (read welfare recipients). In other words, if this protection is lifted and a woman goes to a physician who refuses to perfrom an abortion because of moral beliefs, then that woman would be free to sue the doctor for withholding medical care....and who would be more prone to sue a physician than one who is on welfare and always looking for free money?

It has nothing to do with asking a health care professional to perform a procedure or deliver health care outside of his/her realm of education or specialization.
Maybe you should consider jumping into reality
You don't give someone like the Queen of England an IPOD for pete's sake. I'll bet his kids pick it out themselves??? This is the Queen of England. He should have consulted with his staff or someone who is more knowledgeable as to what to give a foreign diplomat, especially someone like the Queen of England. And evidently she already has one. You would have thought he would have checked with someone in his office that is knowledgeable about what a proper gift to give would be. Ya think????? But that goes to show there is no one in his cabinet qualified on such issues. The gift should be a symbol of the US. Sorry but I and evidently many others don't think of IPODs when they think of the US. How juvenile to assume everyone would want an IPOD. Somehow I don't see the Queen bee-boppin to tunes stored on an IPOD. But what's worse...he downloaded all of his speeches. Can we say ewwww! Maybe he should have downloaded some episodes of South Park for her too.

If he could have shown how little he cared about a gift to her he just did. American is filled with many wonderful and talented artists. A very nice piece of art would have been much more appropriate than a friggin IPOD.

Maybe you should consider putting your love affair with him on hold and coming to the world here where not everyone lives for their IPOD.
false. No basis in reality for
this statement.