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Enjoy it while you can. See how you feel a year

Posted By: from now when his plans take effect. pathetic.nm on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: Yipee! la la la! Doing a HAPPY DANCE!!! - NYMT

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and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!


At least you enjoy something.

Cuz it's been tough watching you mentally unravel and unhinge on this board. 


But once again you are wrong.  I doubt that anyone on this board wants to see an injustice done, no matter what the accused's race, creed or political party affiliation is.  If Clinton had done the Iraq thing I personally would be just as disgusted.


That's where we differ, you and I.  It's all about keeping the courts and this country on the right track and party lines don't matter much.  Judging by your posts it is something you will never understand.


Enjoy while you can...sm
These Social United States of America won't be all it's cracked up to be ....by our soon to be prez.

I'm happy I didn't vote for him, and am in way part of what he's about to try to bring about.

Here ya go...you should enjoy this....(sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJox3lZGNgg&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Well I quite enjoy TS
and I am definitely NOT a HE.


Oldtimer - I enjoy your

posts - don't let the extremists bum you out.


 


Not at all. Just enjoy web anonymity like
Last time I checked, that's not a crime and besides that, I enjoy literary license and the freedom to exercise my speech without being told how to do it or what I should be saying. BTW, is Nanaw your given name?
I enjoy all the television

coverage.   They show a lot of behind the scenes stories at this time.  I like to hear from people such as the chief usher of the White House.  Who knew?  I saw a story about the little boy who lives next door to Obama and was writing a book about him.  He was asked if he ever saw Obama mowing the yard or shoveling snow.  The little boy said no.  Cute stuff after all the negativity from the other side during the campaign. No more friend of terrorists and mysterious birth certificates.  This is real America.


 


Why should you give up something you obviously enjoy...sm
just because somebody cyberbullied you?  Ignore their posts.  You should not take anything that is said on this board personally.  Are any of these people your friends or neighbors who interact with you on a daily basis and know the complexities that make you who you are?  No.  If people like you stop posting, then the cyberbullies win and then there is nothing here but hate and meanness.  This world has enough of that, so don't let a few harsh words win out and take away something you enjoy.  So you are important!  This world is made up of a lot of different personalities, that is what makes it interesting.  How boring would it be if there were no cyberbullies to get your mind thinking and your panties in a bunch once in awhile?  Just think if everyone agreed all the time?  When someone says something mean, ignore it, answer back or whatever, but don't let it ruin your day or stop you from being part of something that makes you happy.  Hope you stay. 
I enjoy TS posts
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You probably enjoy JTBB who I can't stand. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't post.


I enjoy them too. Her posts are by far

well thought out posts on this board.  She doesn't deserve the brutal treatment she receives on here, yet she keeps coming back, so I also admire her courage, considering what she's dealing with here.


There were a couple other posters who wrote very good posts too, but they're not here any more, so we're mostly left with junk. 


Please keep posting JTBB.  You're by far the most intelligent person on this board.


You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
Was "Greta", not Gretchen. I think you enjoy
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if you enjoy books about religion
you should read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer. It is about some of the fundamentalist Mormon beliefs -- and no, I am not bashing Mormons, just a lot of interesting history and insight into some of these zealots, not regular Mormons.
Thought y'all would enjoy this.

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Ditto! I enjoy her posts, as well. (nm)

I ALWAYS enjoy JTBB's Posts
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Enjoy your vacation......and as a poster down below said.....
I may not agree with your postings all the time, but I love reading them.

Hope you have nice weather if you are going a long distance.
I agree, and I enjoy reading your posts.


Bye..Bye..Scooter Enjoy Your Time in the Federal Pen
Happy days are here again..**Waiting for the next indictment**..
I enjoy reading the liberal posts
Thanks for your post, however, I now see the neocons are coming over, so time to sign off.  It kind of makes me nauseous knowing Im on the same page at the same time. 
For Conn MT: Hillary-the Undead. Enjoy..))
http://www.236.com/blog/w/will_durst/hillary_clinton_undead_4987.php
I agree with ms. I enjoy it too. Sam reminds me of my husband. sm
And that is a good thing. LOL. My husband can debate until the cows come home whether it is Obama, McCain, Pelosi, etc. He lays everything out point by point and he isn't nasty about it the way some of the other posters on this board are. And he doesn't have to resort to name calling or whining.

So I say to Sam...You go girl!!.
Kaydie, hope you reconsider. I enjoy

I actually enjoy reading a lot of the liberal stuff...
I might not agree with it, but as long as it is respectful, part of what I like is to read the other side of issues. I also like a little debate here and there. What I do not like is being called names and treated with disrespect, and of course, this is all ridiculous, but I don't think that it is a liberal versus conservative thing, or even an Obama supporter versus McCain supporter thing. This right here is a bunch of grown ups acting like children, but like most children, they will get bored, so I will just keep checking in for the adults to post.
I especially enjoy Olberman's countdown observance.
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Hey JTBB - interesting video you might enjoy
I heard this guy interviewed awhile ago and I thought he was right on. I agree with what he says in this. Thought you might enjoy it. It's an older interview and she has been picked but I thought it was good and I agree with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxwk6fNJZmY&feature=related


I enjoy reading your posts, Cyndiee (sm)
All the juvenile name calling happens when they don't have an intelligent answer to give.  Those comments fail or succeed on their own merit.  Usually, not much merit given to kindergarten tantrums.
I hope you all enjoy working an extra 10 or 20 hours
So you can give it to Obama to give to the people who don't work. I'd rather spend the time with my famiy.
But you are on the politic board - enjoy your hearing your opinion
I'd like to know how you feel about the stimulus package (p.s. - you are on the political board HA HA)

As for Bush/Gore. The country always has been run by whoever wins the delegates is elected. Back then Gore may have had the popular vote (why I have no idea), but Bush had the electoral votes. I don't get it. Every single election if the crats are ahead in electoral votes they boast about following the laws, but if they are not ahead in electoral votes and are ahead in popular vote they try to change the rules and make it law that whoever has popular vote wins and not electoral. It's happened every single election.

But would like to hear your opinion on the stimulus plan.

Various Bush members enjoy profit from human suffering.

Two articles below:


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-bucky23mar23,1,7624344.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


From the Los Angeles Times


Bush's Uncle Earned Millions in War Firm Sale


An SEC filing shows William H.T. Bush collected about $1.9 million in cash, plus stock valued at $800,000, from the deal.


By Walter F. Roche Jr.
Times Staff Writer

March 23, 2006

WASHINGTON — As President Bush embarks on a new effort to shore up public support for the war in Iraq, an uncle of the commander in chief is collecting $2.7 million in cash and stock from the recent sale of a company that profited from the war.

A report filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission shows that William H.T. Bush collected just under $1.9 million in cash plus stock valued at more than $800,000 from the sale of Engineered Support Systems Inc. to DRS Technologies of New Jersey.

The $1.7-billion deal closed Jan. 31. Both firms have extensive military contracts.

William Bush was a director of Engineered Support Systems. Recent SEC filings show he was paid cash and DRS stock in exchange for shares and options he obtained as a director.

Before DRS purchased it, Missouri-based ESSI experienced record growth as a result of expanded U.S. military contracts — many to supply U.S. efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The contracts, some awarded on a no-bid basis, include a $77-million deal to refit military vehicles with armor for use in Iraq.

Other ESSI products used in the war include radar and detection services, field medical stations and field electrical generator units.

SEC filings show that two federal investigations of ESSI are underway. One inquiry involves a stop order from the government on the field generators. The order was issued because the units didn't operate properly.

The generator contract was a major source of revenue. SEC files show that ESSI did not tell stockholders about the stop order until last June, about seven months after it was issued.

During the interim, several ESSI executives, including Bush's uncle, cashed in stock and stock options worth millions of dollars, the filings show.

According to one recent filing, the SEC and the U.S. attorney in St. Louis are investigating the delayed disclosure and other matters.

Unnamed members of the ESSI board and corporate officers have been subpoenaed in the inquiry, according to documents.

SEC filings show that William Bush, 67, exercised options on 8,348 shares of ESSI stock on Jan. 18, 2005, about two months after the stop order was issued and six months before it was disclosed. He collected about $450,000 in cash.

Bush, known as Uncle Bucky in the president's family, joined ESSI's board in 2000, several months before his nephew became president.

He heads a St. Louis investment firm and is the youngest brother of former President George H.W. Bush.

He declined to comment Wednesday. However, in an interview last year, he said he played no role in ESSI's winning federal contracts.

I don't make any calls to the 202 [Washington, D.C.] area code, he said.

Patricia Williamson, a spokeswoman for DRS, would not comment on the status of the federal investigations.

The company has said it is cooperating in the probes, which also involve an ESSI insurance contract.

_________________________________________________________________


March 22, 2006, 11:58PM


Former first lady's donation aids son


Katrina funds earmarked to pay for Neil Bush's software program


By CYNTHIA LEONOR GARZA
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle


Former first lady Barbara Bush donated an undisclosed amount of money to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund with specific instructions that the money be spent with an educational software company owned by her son Neil.


Since then, the Ignite Learning program has been given to eight area schools that took in substantial numbers of Hurricane Katrina evacuees.


Mrs. Bush wanted to do something specifically for education and specifically for the thousands of students flooding into the Houston schools, said Jean Becker, former President Bush's chief of staff. She knew that HISD was using this software program, and she's very excited about this program, so she wanted to make it possible for them to expand the use of this program.


The former first lady plans to visit a Houston Independent School District campus using the Ignite program today to call on local business leaders to support schools and education.


The trip to Fleming Middle School is intended to showcase Bush's commitment to education for both Houston-area and New Orleans evacuee students, according to a press release issued Wednesday by Ignite.


Fleming, which has more than 170 New Orleans students, was one of eight area schools chosen by the Harris County Department of Education to receive a donated COW, or Curriculum on Wheels, multimedia program after Hurricane Katrina.


Neil Bush founded Austin-based Ignite Learning, which produces the COW program, in 1999.


Becker said she wasn't at liberty to divulge how much money the Bush family gave to the hurricane funds, but said the rest of their donation was not earmarked for anything.


Nationally, some other donors also specified how they wanted their donations spent, Becker said.


For example, one man wanted his money to go to Habitat for Humanity but via the former presidents' fund. Nearly $1 million has been raised for the local fund and more than $120 million for the national.


Regarding the fact that Bush's earmarked donation also benefited her son's company, Becker said, Mrs. Bush is obviously an enthusiastic supporter of her son. She is genuinely supportive of his program, and has received many letters from educators who support it. Bush honestly felt this would be a great way to help the (evacuee) students.


Barbara and Neil Bush presented the donated programs to Houston-area schools this winter.


Districts that received the free curriculum include Houston, Alvin, Katy, Pearland and Spring and the New Orleans West charter school.


There are 40 Ignite programs being used in the Houston area, and 15 in the Houston school district, said Ken Leonard, president of Ignite.


Information about the effectiveness of the program, through district-generated reports, was not readily available Wednesday, according to an HISD spokeswoman.


Two years ago, the school district raised eyebrows when it expanded the program by relying heavily on private donations.


In February 2004, the Houston school board unanimously agreed to accept $115,000 in charitable donations from businesses and individuals who insisted the money be spent on Ignite. The money covered half the bill for the software, which cost $10,000 per school.


The deal raised conflict of interest concerns because Neil Bush and company officials helped solicit the donations for the HISD Foundation, a philanthropic group that raises money for the district.


HISD school principals decide for themselves whether to spend their budgeted money on Ignite.


Leonard said that in the past six to eight months, the company has hired national sales representatives across the country — in Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada — in hopes of expanding beyond Texas. Currently, about 80 percent of the company's customers are from Texas.


Last year, Neil Bush reportedly toured former Soviet Union countries promoting Ignite with Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky.


According to the Times of London, Berezovsky, a former Kremlin insider now living in Britain, is wanted on criminal charges in Moscow accusing him of seeking to stage a coup against President Vladimir Putin.


The purpose of today's event is to showcase everyone's efforts in helping the hurricane evacuee students who ended up in Houston, Leonard said.


We have a role, but we're not the leader in this, Leonard said. He also acknowledged that his company will benefit from the former first lady's visit.


Barbara Bush is expected to observe both teachers and students using the Ignite Learning program while touring classrooms, according to the Ignite press release.


During a short reception, teachers and students will give testimonials about the program and Bush will encourage community business leaders to have a stronger presence in supporting schools and education, the press release said.


The free-standing instructional tools that are not dependent on the Internet. They include a built-in computer, projector and speakers and come pre-loaded with science and social studies courses.


cynthia.garza@chron.com











 



HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com | Section: Houston & Texas
This article is: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/3742329.html




I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.
Change and Hope: Obama wants your change and hopes you enjoy starving.... sm
...while he's partying like a rock star with the glitterati.

Meanwhile, some little old lady is hoping he doesn't get a dog and sends her the dog food instead.
I think we need a 4-year....
moratorium on presidents.  Let's try 4 years without one.  See how that goes. 
I'm one year from my MA.
It seems like half of the posts on this MB are yours. Maybe you should look for other hobbies. Like clubbing baby seals or smashing the dreams of little children.

You spew on and on about how unbiased you are, yet 90% of your posts bash republicans.

I think you just like to see your name on the MB. Maybe in your 'real' life nobody cares about you. So you come here to feel like at least someone will read your message and know you are still alive.

How sad for you.
Well, in a year you can say


I just went there last year
I was welcomed there and not treated as an ugly american.

My brother and his wife have lived there for years and they and their friends are not treated like "ugly americans", and they've been all over germany, belgium, france, austria, lictenfelds, and switzerland. They travel every weekend and they are always welcome whereever they go. The europeans love Americans. They (not all) may not like our president but they know that americans are not like him.

This kind of comment is just a lie! Another Bush hater. We get it, we all get it. God I can't want til tomorrow cos I can't wait for the Bush bashers/haters to just shut their mouths. But wait, they keep it up about McCain/Palin, so don't expect it to stop with Bush.
You tell me how an 8-year-old knows

anything about being "gay."  I'll tell you where, in the indoctrination centers known as public education. 


Excuse me, being homosexual does not make one happy and well adjusted.  I've never ever seen when blatant sin ever lead to being happy and well adjusted.


Probably same as this year
Get back over 4,000 in tax refunds.
Yes, he did. This was for LAST YEAR'S

Seven down, one year to go for America
Article from yesterday's Times Herald documenting in a nutshell Bush's dynamic and equally distrastrous first year for America.  It packs a wallop.  In hindsight and in black and white, it certainly portends to everything that follows.  I wonder if we shall ever recover from the damage that has been done to this country and abroad.

 

Seven down, one year to go for America

 

January 14, 2008

As I watched Americans caucus in Iowa and enter voting booths in New Hampshire these past two weeks, I felt the first stirrings of hope for my country that I've felt in a very long time.


It is as though we are peeking out of our caves of fear and despair, still wearing our winter coats and galoshes but preparing to shed them as we step into the promise of springtime.


For seven years, this country has been held in the grip of men who have used us for their own ends. On Sunday, it will be exactly one year until we see the last of the Bush administration.


That is reason for celebration. But it is not reason for turning our attention away from the criminals in the White House. There are times when I barely recognize the carcass of America that they continue to strip as they prepare to discard us.


Only one more year. But we know from experience the kind of damage George Bush and his crowd can do in the space of 12 months. Lest we forget, let's look at just a single year — 2001 — under this, the worst regime in America's history.


Jan. 20, 2001: On the day of Bush's inauguration, his chief of staff issued a moratorium halting all new health, safety and environmental regulations issued in the final days of the Clinton administration.


Jan. 23: Bush reinstates the global gag rule barring U.S. funding for abortion counseling abroad.


Feb. 5: Bush suspends the "roadless rule," which protected 60 million acres of forests from logging and road-building.


Feb. 17: Bush signs four


See Beth Quinn page 18


anti-union executive orders, including measures to prohibit project labor agreements at federal construction sites.


March 7: At Bush's urging, Congress repeals ergomonic regulations designed to protect workers from repetitive-stress injuries.


March 15: Bush abandons his campaign pledge to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.


March 20: The Bush administration moves to overturn a regulation reducing the allowable levels of arsenic in drinking water.


March 28: Bush backs out of the Kyoto treaty on global warming.


March 29: Bush shuts down the White House Office for Women's Initiatives and Outreach.


April 4: Bush's Department of Agriculture proposes lifting a requirment that all beef used in federal school lunch programs must be tested for salmonella.


April 9: Bush's Department of Interior proposes a limit on lawsuits seeking protection of endangered species.


May 11: Bush abandons the nation's international effort to crack down on offshore tax havens for the rich.


May 16: Vice President Dick Cheney's task force releases its National Energy Policy report, calling for weaker environmental regulations and massive subsidies for the oil and gas, coal, and nuclear power industries.


May 26: At Bush's urging, Congress passes a $1.35 trillion tax cut.


June 19: Cheny refuses to release records of his energy task force meetings to the General Accounting Office.


June 28: Attorney General John Ashcroft announces a policy that would require gun records be destroyed one day after a background check rather than 90 days later.


July 9: Bush opposes a UN treaty to curb international trafficking in small arms and light weapons.


July 26: Bush rejects an international treaty on germ warfare and biological weapons.


Aug. 6: During the presidential daily briefing, Bush is warned that Osama bin Laden is determined to strike in the United States.


Aug. 9: Bush limits stem cell research to existing lines.


Sept. 11: Terrorists organized by bin Laden crash hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing thousands.


Sept. 22: Bush signs a $15 billion airline bailout.


Oct. 26: Bush signs the USA Patriot Act.


Oct. 29: Bush's Justice Department acknowledges but won't identify more than 1,000 individuals detained since the Sept. 11 attacks.


Oc.t 31: Ashcroft authorizes monitoring of attorney-client conversations in terrorism investigations.


Nov. 1: Bush issues an executive order blocking the release of presidential records.


Nov. 13: Bush orders that "enemy combatants" be tried in military tribunals.


Nov. 14: Bush's Justice Department issues regulations allowing illegal immigrants to be detained indefinitely.


Dec. 11: The Bush White House recommends privatizing Social Security.


Dec. 12: Bush announces that he intends to pull out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty unilaterally.


Dec. 27: Bush repeals the "responsible contractor rule" that had required scrutiny of safety and environmental law violations in the awarding of federal contracts.


There are 372 days left 'til Jan. 20, 2009. Let us hang onto hope for the future.


Happy New Year to you too....
As I said, I think it was probably a multitude of things, sick and fed up just pegged on the antiwar always bleak diatribe, it was the holidays and I am sure she was missing her son acutely, and the post, in my view and I don't have a son in Iraq, was very cold and matter of fact on an issue that is not matter of fact and calls in many human emotions...in short, she just had to vent. She did not expect war support. She was just tired of sitting there quiet. She may never post here again. All I was saying is that maybe that should have been taken into consideration and give her a pass that one time instead of coming back and slamming her. Just a little empathy would have been nice. That is all I was saying. I have defended liberals for going on once in awhile as well. And oddly, I have been criticized for that as well. LOL. Politics. Gotta love it.
Yes, it has been the deadliest year...
because the insurgency has been the strongest this year and their attacks on civilians have been horrendous. So, it makes sense for this to be the worst year. There were actually fewer deaths during the actual invasion than in the months after, both with soldiers and civilians. The insurgents and militias were not operating in the first months. And I agree mistakes were made, big ones. However, now, even the Iraqi government says attacks in Baghdad (car bombs, suicide bombers, rocket attacks, etc.) are down 70%. People are getting out and about again in major areas of Baghdad and there is some semblance of a normal life. That is a monumental achievement in comparsion to what it was. Are things perfect...no. Are things completely stable? No. But the article I posted by the independent journalist embedded witht he 82nd Airborne in Baghdad (who came in for the original surge in February and have been there since January གྷ)...the battalion he was with has suffered no deaths, not even any injuries since then. That is amazing. I guess, DW, I just get excited for the Iraqi people (and by that I mean the common folk like you and me) even with the "little" strides. I would like to be out of there too, trust me, I would. But I would rather we do everything we can to keep from having a blood bath like Viet Nam happen when we do leave. We are there, for whatever reason we got there, and you can't unscramble eggs. I still have hope that we can help stabilize it to the point that it is not so dangerous and I still have hope that the Iraqi people can find a way to pull together to help it happen faster. We may still have to pull out and bad things happen; there may be no way to avoid that. I just believe enough good is happening to keep that hope alive. Have a good weekend!
I have a soon to be 9-year-old daughter and
pregnancy and the allowance of it most certainly does concern me especially when McCain is in his 70s and not in the best of health already.  Yes, I was raised with family values and yes this absolutely does concern not only me but my husband as well.  Yes, this is a big focus right now on Governor Palin and her family values.  I'm only one voice, but one voice that is concerned about this teenage girl and it being "allowed" and "accepted."  This goes against any core family values I've learned my entire life.  Does this mean it's okay for her daughter?  Does this mean that this candidate will just "ignore" issues if she had to step in as President blaming us the country and not herself for her own misjudgements or her own "oversites?" 
YOU MAKE OVER $250,000 a year
and can't afford to go out to dinner more than once or twice a year, live in a plain house that is almost paid off and have no debt? That is ASTOUNDING! Taxes are being raised on those making over $250,000 a year. My husband and I made around $80,000 last year and now we can't afford a pot to p**s in or a window to throw it out. Cancer has defined my life for the past year, meds are astronomical, medical bills drove us to bankruptcy and, right now, I'm too sick to work. We are barely surviving on hubbies income - I sold all of my jewelry to pay bills and put food on the table. I've been saving aluminum and scrapping it for gas money. I've been fighting insurance companies for treatment and compensation that I PAID for. My 30-year-old son is handicapped and works in a sheltered workshop. He broke his glasses. He's darn near blind. He had to wait 2 years before his medical card would pay for a new pair. So, I don't want to hear how WONDERFUL those on the "dole" have it. We live in a 600 sq. ft. "cottage" and my husband is a professional with a 5-year engineering degree. We are middle class and have been stabbed in the back over the last year. I can't take 4 more years. If McCain gets elected, I hope I sucumb to this disease so I don't have to see my children and grandchildren suffer.
I do not make over 250,000 a year, sorry
and like I am going to take someone like Donald Trump's opinions to heart. not a chance. he has a lot more to lose than I do if he has to pay taxes. I will get 1000 stimulus and end up paying less in taxes, it is just they will be distributed differently, in other words, not so much given to lobbyists and oil people that is my understanding...

my cash gets taken out of my wallet NOW, more than ever, and my say where it goes is all but diminished - now THAT is scary...
I was just 1 year shy of being able to vote at 21 then...sm
but was very involved in the election. I couldn't wait to be able to vote for him after I was of age but we all know what happened with that. Then MLK and Bobby. I think that Obama has the same intellect and vision that Jack and Bobby had, as well as being very charismatic. I am glad to have a second chance to vote for someone with my vision for America.
We both just graduated this year
Him with a four year degree and me with my MT certificate. I am back in school finishing my psych degree I had originally started. Since he is a history major and the job market is pretty much frozen right now, he is having trouble finding a job. Therefore he works with his dad building houses for $300 a week like I previously stated. At the rate we are going I make $400 a week MTing (remember, I'm P/T because of school) So at $700 a week x 4 weeks a month =$2800 a month x 12 months = $33,600 dollars. Almost $10,000 more than last year, but still not a lot compared to most.

Make sense?

Now I'm sure when my husband does find a career position we will be substantially better, but for now, this is what we have, so this is what we work with. But I'm not going to come digging in your pockets so I can buy all the newest toys and gadgets!
From a 13-year-old girl
My daughter is in 8th grade. For the election, the students are to go to each candidate's web site and research the candidates, and then the students will vote (using a real voting booth - cool mom!)

She told me that she started her research today, and she found that when she looked at Obama's web site it talked about his family and such, and then his proposals for change. When she went to McCain's web site, all she found initially, were negative things about Obama, and that was the main point of his web site, but on the sides, she could dig out a little more on the issues.

She was wondering why people have to be so negative. She said, "Doesn't Gram (my mother) always say that when people spend all their time talking badly about other people, it is because they have nothing good to say about themselves?"

She hasn't decided who she will vote for (but she is a tree-hugger of her own accord), and I think she will probably lean left.

Anyway, I am now off to take a better look at the 2 web sites to see what I see.

Peace,

CB
I bet within a year, you will be wondering WHY you
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when we got laid off last year, I
moved the 401K to AARP who put it in all conservative bonds and I have lost about 2% of it this quarter.