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I agree, and I enjoy reading your posts.

Posted By: Lilly on 2005-10-20
In Reply to: Personally, I am debating nicely - Rep




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I enjoy reading the liberal posts
Thanks for your post, however, I now see the neocons are coming over, so time to sign off.  It kind of makes me nauseous knowing Im on the same page at the same time. 
I enjoy reading your posts, Cyndiee (sm)
All the juvenile name calling happens when they don't have an intelligent answer to give.  Those comments fail or succeed on their own merit.  Usually, not much merit given to kindergarten tantrums.
I actually enjoy reading a lot of the liberal stuff...
I might not agree with it, but as long as it is respectful, part of what I like is to read the other side of issues. I also like a little debate here and there. What I do not like is being called names and treated with disrespect, and of course, this is all ridiculous, but I don't think that it is a liberal versus conservative thing, or even an Obama supporter versus McCain supporter thing. This right here is a bunch of grown ups acting like children, but like most children, they will get bored, so I will just keep checking in for the adults to post.
I enjoy TS posts
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You probably enjoy JTBB who I can't stand. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't post.


I enjoy them too. Her posts are by far

well thought out posts on this board.  She doesn't deserve the brutal treatment she receives on here, yet she keeps coming back, so I also admire her courage, considering what she's dealing with here.


There were a couple other posters who wrote very good posts too, but they're not here any more, so we're mostly left with junk. 


Please keep posting JTBB.  You're by far the most intelligent person on this board.


Ditto! I enjoy her posts, as well. (nm)

I ALWAYS enjoy JTBB's Posts
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Yes! Reading your posts is EXACTLY like that!
How insightful of you (as opposed to your customary *incitefulness*).
Reading your posts
I do not see the intelligence, much less the literacy.

After reading all the posts in this thread,

You definitely won, hands down, no contest because you speak the truth.


(Don't ya just love the word "insufferable?"  I think it's used mostly by those "tater" people when they start sputterin' and spoutin' and spittin'!)


I was wondering if you would be reading the posts
I'm just astounded that in the year 2008 we have such ignorance in people who spew words without researching them. I guess bigotry is still alive in your section of the country but in my region (and the region I grew up in which is way on the other side) we were taught to love everyone like our own sister or brother. You don't judge people and you dont' make fun of people because of the way they look, speak, dress or what their freakin middle name is! It's odd that when someone comes out and tells you they are a Christian and they go to a Christian church so many people are focused on trying to say otherwise. Reminds me of what I read about Benjamin Franklin who wrote in his papers that he was a Diest yet after he died people kept trying to say he was a Christian. Then of course there are the people who will probably pull out the bible and try and find some passage in there to support their viewpoint (even if it takes them a whole week or more to find one). But to come out and acuse someone of being the antichrist is just rediculous and downright childish. You know who I read was the antichrist....Prince William!! Go figure! So who is right? Bush may have done some things that he should go to jail for but that doesn't make him an antichrist and for pitty sake...Barack has done absolutely nothing! Do you hear me....nothing that would qualify him as being an antichrist. Guess that goes to show you that anytime someone doesn't like someone they are quick to name him as the antichrist. Sure I can't stand Bush. I think he's one of the worst presidents we've had (well second worst - first worst was Billy Boy Clinton), but I'm not going to label anyone as the antichrist. I guess I just never really knew any biggots and closed minded people until I started reading some of the posts! Glad I live amonth free thinking people who want a leader we can count on, we can trust, and who votes for the right things and against the wrong.
Wow,thank you for going back and reading all my posts....
and finishing up with your usual coup DE grace snide remark. And thank you also for worrying about whether I sleep or not...you are just tooooo kind. And while I am at it...I guess I should be happeeee I can get so far under your skin. Hoooahhh!

Tell you what....sign up with yet another moniker and call yourself troublemaker...I gotta find something to eat. ROFL. Ya kill me, you really do. I needed a good laugh...and I forgot how well you used to bring that for me.

Thank you....thank you very much. LOL.
You might try reading all the posts before you do your little drive-bys...
never said anything about "book learnin." What I said was I objected being talked to in a condescending and elitist manner. Never said anything about education...other than the poster I was referring to looked down on folks that she perceived was not as well educated as SHE was.

As to the Mein Kampf remark...too idiotic to even address. LOL. Geezzz.
Then stop reading my posts if they distress you so.
Your free will is what is causing you so much pain.
I like reading your posts, gourdpainter, even f they are pagelong!.
because they are an inspiration and they are YOUR words and full of the right knowledge, grace and true feelings. Thank You.
Go, Obama !
We stopped reading your posts a long time ago!


I agree with ms. I enjoy it too. Sam reminds me of my husband. sm
And that is a good thing. LOL. My husband can debate until the cows come home whether it is Obama, McCain, Pelosi, etc. He lays everything out point by point and he isn't nasty about it the way some of the other posters on this board are. And he doesn't have to resort to name calling or whining.

So I say to Sam...You go girl!!.
I agree with poster below. Don't even waste your time reading the post. - Sarcastic and utter no
Oh brother - get real.
I could not agree more with your posts!.....nm
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I agree, especially with your posts.

There IS nothing that contains one scintilla of anything that could be called I haven't seen one scintilla of anything that could properly be called "fair minded" or "well researched" when all someone can do is refer to someone's posted initials as "Just Terribly Bad Breath."


All that is, is kindergarten bullying and name-calling.  I DO find JTBB's posts to be intelligent and well written, but any time just ONE person agrees with her, the mob mentality swarms down like a bunch of nasty, stinging yellow jackets.


Well, if Obama WOULD agree with your posts...
yet another huge reason not to vote for him. But I do not think for 1 minute he would. I cannot imagine this sort of ... tripe ... issuing from Barack Obama's mouth. If it did, he would be maligning a good portion of his base. But even that said...I don't believe he would. I believe he is a basically decent man...and basic decency should preclude anyone from posting this ... well to call it crap elevates it.
Thank you, Nanaw. Don't agree with some of your posts,
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Beautiful posts and I agree with all of you
We need to come together regardless of our personal feelings about the outcome of this election. I believe both candidates are sincere in their desire to do what's best for our country. Something that helps me remember God is ultimately the one in control is to pray "Thy will be done."
Wow. A historical moment. I almost never agree with your posts....
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I agree that Sam's and Gourdpainter's posts showed the differences (sm)
between the two candidates but I think you are absolutely clueless when it comes to your judgement. Sam's posts are always backed by facts. No one is her "follower." We who are voting for McCain are often grateful that she takes the time to find these facts and post them for all to see. While I can appreciate your admiration for Gourdpainter, your insults to Sam are completely unfounded and uncalled for. You Obama-backers are always looking for proof---show me some proof that Sam's posts are garbage. Proof please?
Are you reading the same thing I am reading? sm
Did you read Mein Kampf?  Would that be good enough evidence for you, because he wrote about it in there. Good grief, you people won't admit when you are wrong and frankly, that is pretty darned frightening!
Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.

I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.


At least you enjoy something.

Cuz it's been tough watching you mentally unravel and unhinge on this board. 


But once again you are wrong.  I doubt that anyone on this board wants to see an injustice done, no matter what the accused's race, creed or political party affiliation is.  If Clinton had done the Iraq thing I personally would be just as disgusted.


That's where we differ, you and I.  It's all about keeping the courts and this country on the right track and party lines don't matter much.  Judging by your posts it is something you will never understand.


Enjoy while you can...sm
These Social United States of America won't be all it's cracked up to be ....by our soon to be prez.

I'm happy I didn't vote for him, and am in way part of what he's about to try to bring about.

Here ya go...you should enjoy this....(sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJox3lZGNgg&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Well I quite enjoy TS
and I am definitely NOT a HE.


Oldtimer - I enjoy your

posts - don't let the extremists bum you out.


 


Not at all. Just enjoy web anonymity like
Last time I checked, that's not a crime and besides that, I enjoy literary license and the freedom to exercise my speech without being told how to do it or what I should be saying. BTW, is Nanaw your given name?
I enjoy all the television

coverage.   They show a lot of behind the scenes stories at this time.  I like to hear from people such as the chief usher of the White House.  Who knew?  I saw a story about the little boy who lives next door to Obama and was writing a book about him.  He was asked if he ever saw Obama mowing the yard or shoveling snow.  The little boy said no.  Cute stuff after all the negativity from the other side during the campaign. No more friend of terrorists and mysterious birth certificates.  This is real America.


 


Why should you give up something you obviously enjoy...sm
just because somebody cyberbullied you?  Ignore their posts.  You should not take anything that is said on this board personally.  Are any of these people your friends or neighbors who interact with you on a daily basis and know the complexities that make you who you are?  No.  If people like you stop posting, then the cyberbullies win and then there is nothing here but hate and meanness.  This world has enough of that, so don't let a few harsh words win out and take away something you enjoy.  So you are important!  This world is made up of a lot of different personalities, that is what makes it interesting.  How boring would it be if there were no cyberbullies to get your mind thinking and your panties in a bunch once in awhile?  Just think if everyone agreed all the time?  When someone says something mean, ignore it, answer back or whatever, but don't let it ruin your day or stop you from being part of something that makes you happy.  Hope you stay. 
Enjoy it while you can. See how you feel a year
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Was "Greta", not Gretchen. I think you enjoy
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if you enjoy books about religion
you should read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer. It is about some of the fundamentalist Mormon beliefs -- and no, I am not bashing Mormons, just a lot of interesting history and insight into some of these zealots, not regular Mormons.
Thought y'all would enjoy this.

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Enjoy your vacation......and as a poster down below said.....
I may not agree with your postings all the time, but I love reading them.

Hope you have nice weather if you are going a long distance.
Bye..Bye..Scooter Enjoy Your Time in the Federal Pen
Happy days are here again..**Waiting for the next indictment**..
For Conn MT: Hillary-the Undead. Enjoy..))
http://www.236.com/blog/w/will_durst/hillary_clinton_undead_4987.php
Kaydie, hope you reconsider. I enjoy

I especially enjoy Olberman's countdown observance.
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Hey JTBB - interesting video you might enjoy
I heard this guy interviewed awhile ago and I thought he was right on. I agree with what he says in this. Thought you might enjoy it. It's an older interview and she has been picked but I thought it was good and I agree with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxwk6fNJZmY&feature=related


I hope you all enjoy working an extra 10 or 20 hours
So you can give it to Obama to give to the people who don't work. I'd rather spend the time with my famiy.
But you are on the politic board - enjoy your hearing your opinion
I'd like to know how you feel about the stimulus package (p.s. - you are on the political board HA HA)

As for Bush/Gore. The country always has been run by whoever wins the delegates is elected. Back then Gore may have had the popular vote (why I have no idea), but Bush had the electoral votes. I don't get it. Every single election if the crats are ahead in electoral votes they boast about following the laws, but if they are not ahead in electoral votes and are ahead in popular vote they try to change the rules and make it law that whoever has popular vote wins and not electoral. It's happened every single election.

But would like to hear your opinion on the stimulus plan.

Various Bush members enjoy profit from human suffering.

Two articles below:


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-bucky23mar23,1,7624344.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


From the Los Angeles Times


Bush's Uncle Earned Millions in War Firm Sale


An SEC filing shows William H.T. Bush collected about $1.9 million in cash, plus stock valued at $800,000, from the deal.


By Walter F. Roche Jr.
Times Staff Writer

March 23, 2006

WASHINGTON — As President Bush embarks on a new effort to shore up public support for the war in Iraq, an uncle of the commander in chief is collecting $2.7 million in cash and stock from the recent sale of a company that profited from the war.

A report filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission shows that William H.T. Bush collected just under $1.9 million in cash plus stock valued at more than $800,000 from the sale of Engineered Support Systems Inc. to DRS Technologies of New Jersey.

The $1.7-billion deal closed Jan. 31. Both firms have extensive military contracts.

William Bush was a director of Engineered Support Systems. Recent SEC filings show he was paid cash and DRS stock in exchange for shares and options he obtained as a director.

Before DRS purchased it, Missouri-based ESSI experienced record growth as a result of expanded U.S. military contracts — many to supply U.S. efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The contracts, some awarded on a no-bid basis, include a $77-million deal to refit military vehicles with armor for use in Iraq.

Other ESSI products used in the war include radar and detection services, field medical stations and field electrical generator units.

SEC filings show that two federal investigations of ESSI are underway. One inquiry involves a stop order from the government on the field generators. The order was issued because the units didn't operate properly.

The generator contract was a major source of revenue. SEC files show that ESSI did not tell stockholders about the stop order until last June, about seven months after it was issued.

During the interim, several ESSI executives, including Bush's uncle, cashed in stock and stock options worth millions of dollars, the filings show.

According to one recent filing, the SEC and the U.S. attorney in St. Louis are investigating the delayed disclosure and other matters.

Unnamed members of the ESSI board and corporate officers have been subpoenaed in the inquiry, according to documents.

SEC filings show that William Bush, 67, exercised options on 8,348 shares of ESSI stock on Jan. 18, 2005, about two months after the stop order was issued and six months before it was disclosed. He collected about $450,000 in cash.

Bush, known as Uncle Bucky in the president's family, joined ESSI's board in 2000, several months before his nephew became president.

He heads a St. Louis investment firm and is the youngest brother of former President George H.W. Bush.

He declined to comment Wednesday. However, in an interview last year, he said he played no role in ESSI's winning federal contracts.

I don't make any calls to the 202 [Washington, D.C.] area code, he said.

Patricia Williamson, a spokeswoman for DRS, would not comment on the status of the federal investigations.

The company has said it is cooperating in the probes, which also involve an ESSI insurance contract.

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March 22, 2006, 11:58PM


Former first lady's donation aids son


Katrina funds earmarked to pay for Neil Bush's software program


By CYNTHIA LEONOR GARZA
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle


Former first lady Barbara Bush donated an undisclosed amount of money to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund with specific instructions that the money be spent with an educational software company owned by her son Neil.


Since then, the Ignite Learning program has been given to eight area schools that took in substantial numbers of Hurricane Katrina evacuees.


Mrs. Bush wanted to do something specifically for education and specifically for the thousands of students flooding into the Houston schools, said Jean Becker, former President Bush's chief of staff. She knew that HISD was using this software program, and she's very excited about this program, so she wanted to make it possible for them to expand the use of this program.


The former first lady plans to visit a Houston Independent School District campus using the Ignite program today to call on local business leaders to support schools and education.


The trip to Fleming Middle School is intended to showcase Bush's commitment to education for both Houston-area and New Orleans evacuee students, according to a press release issued Wednesday by Ignite.


Fleming, which has more than 170 New Orleans students, was one of eight area schools chosen by the Harris County Department of Education to receive a donated COW, or Curriculum on Wheels, multimedia program after Hurricane Katrina.


Neil Bush founded Austin-based Ignite Learning, which produces the COW program, in 1999.


Becker said she wasn't at liberty to divulge how much money the Bush family gave to the hurricane funds, but said the rest of their donation was not earmarked for anything.


Nationally, some other donors also specified how they wanted their donations spent, Becker said.


For example, one man wanted his money to go to Habitat for Humanity but via the former presidents' fund. Nearly $1 million has been raised for the local fund and more than $120 million for the national.


Regarding the fact that Bush's earmarked donation also benefited her son's company, Becker said, Mrs. Bush is obviously an enthusiastic supporter of her son. She is genuinely supportive of his program, and has received many letters from educators who support it. Bush honestly felt this would be a great way to help the (evacuee) students.


Barbara and Neil Bush presented the donated programs to Houston-area schools this winter.


Districts that received the free curriculum include Houston, Alvin, Katy, Pearland and Spring and the New Orleans West charter school.


There are 40 Ignite programs being used in the Houston area, and 15 in the Houston school district, said Ken Leonard, president of Ignite.


Information about the effectiveness of the program, through district-generated reports, was not readily available Wednesday, according to an HISD spokeswoman.


Two years ago, the school district raised eyebrows when it expanded the program by relying heavily on private donations.


In February 2004, the Houston school board unanimously agreed to accept $115,000 in charitable donations from businesses and individuals who insisted the money be spent on Ignite. The money covered half the bill for the software, which cost $10,000 per school.


The deal raised conflict of interest concerns because Neil Bush and company officials helped solicit the donations for the HISD Foundation, a philanthropic group that raises money for the district.


HISD school principals decide for themselves whether to spend their budgeted money on Ignite.


Leonard said that in the past six to eight months, the company has hired national sales representatives across the country — in Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada — in hopes of expanding beyond Texas. Currently, about 80 percent of the company's customers are from Texas.


Last year, Neil Bush reportedly toured former Soviet Union countries promoting Ignite with Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky.


According to the Times of London, Berezovsky, a former Kremlin insider now living in Britain, is wanted on criminal charges in Moscow accusing him of seeking to stage a coup against President Vladimir Putin.


The purpose of today's event is to showcase everyone's efforts in helping the hurricane evacuee students who ended up in Houston, Leonard said.


We have a role, but we're not the leader in this, Leonard said. He also acknowledged that his company will benefit from the former first lady's visit.


Barbara Bush is expected to observe both teachers and students using the Ignite Learning program while touring classrooms, according to the Ignite press release.


During a short reception, teachers and students will give testimonials about the program and Bush will encourage community business leaders to have a stronger presence in supporting schools and education, the press release said.


The free-standing instructional tools that are not dependent on the Internet. They include a built-in computer, projector and speakers and come pre-loaded with science and social studies courses.


cynthia.garza@chron.com











 



HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com | Section: Houston & Texas
This article is: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/3742329.html




She also posts regularly here. Who are you to say where she posts? nm
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Change and Hope: Obama wants your change and hopes you enjoy starving.... sm
...while he's partying like a rock star with the glitterati.

Meanwhile, some little old lady is hoping he doesn't get a dog and sends her the dog food instead.
I'm not reading it and here's why. SM

*Breaking News from the Progressive Community* is not exactly unbiased now is it?