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First of all......GM cars are not

Posted By: sm on 2009-03-06
In Reply to: - which will be well-deserved, for making gas-guzzlers - that cost too much & wear out too soon.

crappy cars.  I've had several GM vehicles that I've run the wheels off of.  My whole family buys nothing but GM vehicles and we all prefer them over other vehicles.  Secondly, the reason GM started to build bigger vehicles that used more gas was because gas wasn't so expensive then and that is what the consumers wanted was bigger SUVs, trucks, etc.  People didn't start to complain until gas prices went through the roof. 


GM was fine until the economy took a crap.  When the economy was booming they could afford big salaries for CEOs and paying the union loads of money, etc.  They could afford the legacy costs, health care, and pensions.  Now since no dealer is having much luck selling vehicles, it is kind of hard to pay for all those expenses when people can't buy vehicles, are too afraid to buy vehicles, or are dumb enough to buy foreign pieces of crap instead.




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This was fun to read

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160091
JM = 2 cars registered; CM = 11 cars registered ------->> sm
John McCain can't even raise his arms above his shoulders to comb his hair. He barely drives, if at all. Cindy does most of the driving, as she has said in the past.

Cindy is a multimillionaire. John is not.

So what?


Doesn't anyone wonder how Barack and Michelle Obama gets to and from work and kid stuff with only one car?

My bet is someone has limo service paid by the tax payer.

Maybe JM does too, who knows and who cares??????

This story is a whole lot of nothing, designed to make all the little people (of which I am one, although doesn't bother me).....up in arms because someone with a rich wife has a lot of money and a lot of cars.



SO WHAT!!!!!!!


Sheesh.....like this is really newsworthy......



Chinese cars....
Did anyone see the video of the chinese car crash test? Don't think I will be buying any Chinese made car. The crash test dummy was demolished. the car crumbled like a tin can in a can crusher.
Foreign cars are not better or cheaper.

If they are cheaper it is because they are literally that....cheaper cars.  You pay for what you get.  I've seen so many American made cars throughout my family where they have put 200,000+ miles on vehicles and they keep going.  I've driven so many different types of vehicles since my husband runs a car dealership and I have to say that American trumps foreign any day in my opinion.  I will NEVER own a foreign car.  Ain't happenin.  You will more than likely see my happy butt in a Chevy of some type.  I'm currently driving a Chevy Uplander and I friggin LOVE it!  I have no problem telling someone their vehicle is a foreign piece of crap.  In fact, I recently told my best friend's sister that was what her Honda was.  LOL!


Right on! We paid off our modest house/cars. We
nm
Toyota and Honda build cars in the USA

Didn't you know that? They have been here for years. Do you hear them begging for a bailout? Nope. Because they build decent cars.


The 3 big ones didn't bother to take heed during the last gas crunch and didn't learn a dang thing. If they did, we would have good cars now. GM built a good motor; the V6 3 liter engine. Our Old's Delta 98 (big luxury car)  V6 got 30 MPH. Our Buick LeSabre gets 28 MPH. Why didn't they put those engines in all their cars?


Because the AMERICAN PEOPLE wanted big, bad SUVs and V8 engines. So...if you want to sell cars, you build what people want.


Just like political arena, as soon as something goes wrong in America, they blame the president. As soon as high gas prices hit, they blamed the car companies and turn their backs on them and now they're in a mess. BUT, it doesn't mean they shouldn't have been working on alternate energy cars. Prius, made by Toyota, has been out for a few years now; 48 MPH.  Can't buy one now because that's what everybody wants. Yet when they first came out, hardly any takers.


So, it's not all the fault of the president or car companies. Think about it.


 


Stop importing foreign cars won't help a bit

People in this country want them because they get better gas mileage. Like I said before, Toyota has plants here in America and they are doing good.


The problem with the big 3 is they sat back and forgot about the past (1970s gas crunch), not into the future. They got a winner with those big SUVs and decided, "Hey, let's concentrate on all the big SUVs, big V8s, etc. That's what the American people want" and they did want them.


Car dealers are falling by the wayside in large numbers because of the problems, too. Lots of them are closing because they can't hang on any longer.


People have been buying foreign cars
for years.  What does that have to do with losing our jobs due to fewer patient visits to doctors or hospitals?  Actually, a lot of so-called American-made cars are made in Mexico, like the PT Cruiser.  In fact, a lot of cars are made in Mexico because of cheap labor, including VW.
Here is a link. Proud to own american made cars.

http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2008/11/05/auto-makers-look-good-for-bigger-govt-bailout/


 


 


I agree that we need to buy American made products, in particular cars...
but that entails the idea that we can make cars just as affordable as foreign companies.  Right now we have the same problem here as we do with the oil industry.  Huge tax breaks for foreign industry and we can't compete. 
BT, I am sooo with you, we also finally paid the mortgage, the cars are ours....sm
and no more credit, bad debts and loans killed the economy and Wall Street. Just providing for our 3 kids and making ends meet is the daily challenge, but we have each other and a good extended family, I so hope that the good thing that comes out of this crisis is LESS MATERIALISM in this country, back to simpler living and being happy with less!
I beg to differ on all three of the companies you labeled make crappy cars...
I have had 2 Ford's in my life, my husband has had one and they are most reliable cars ever..the same goes for Chrysler and GM...I happen to live in Ohio where we have Ford, Chrysler and GM within a 20-mile radius of my house...it is sad because it is really affecting the economy around here with them closing...I for one would never buy a foreign car...My Dad retired from Chrysler and my Grandfather retired from Ford...
It's kinda fun to watch you playing mental bumper cars
NM
GMAC Resumes Sub-Prime Loans In Order To Sell Cars

So, let's see.  I know that I have been known to lapse into a coma from time to time, but haven't we been here before - making subprime loans in order to stimulate sales and to hell with what happens next? 


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please, but I'm having such a strange sense of deja vu here.