GIVE ME A ROYAL BREAK!!! FLAG-FLYING
Posted By: Me on 2009-05-27
In Reply to: Is it okay to show your patriotism at the office? - sm
Flag-flying IN AND OF ITSELF is not "patriotism"
PATRIOTISM is standing up for one's COUNTRY against all - including the government.
You can show your patriotism in MANY MANY ways other than flying a flag - one of the most important ways is to EDUCATE yourself about how the government LIES good men and women into fake wars to LINE THE POCKETS OF THE ALREADY RICH.
We have not been "fighting for our freedom" since 1776!!
WANT TO SHOW YOUR PATRIOTISM? Get the facts about what your government is REALLY using your tax dollars for and HOW they are really using your sons and daughters...
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Why assume that flag-flying was this individual's
There's nothing in the story to support your assumption that flying the flag represents this individual's complete understanding of the notion of patriotism.
On the other hand, flying the flag IS certainly ONE expression of patriotism - a form of protected speech, in fact - and the ONLY question here is not whether this individual has a simplistic view of patriotism, but whether displaying the flag should have been prohibited.
We'll just call this your quota of "straw man" logical fallacies for the week, shall we? You may not post another one until next week.
Oh give it a royal rest already
it isn't was 'MURDER' and you know it. You cannot 'MURDER' a zygote, an embryo, or a fetus before the legal time limit for an abortion. Does it end the 'viability' of the embryo/fetus? Yes. Murder? Not even close.
And EXACTLY how are you paying for children born out of wedlock with your taxes?
Specifically, please.
Amount? How much? And how are these monies distributed to these children and/or their gaurdians?
If you can document and defend your position, I'm all ears.
Give me a break.
The CON board has been demoralized by nonstop drive-by vitriol for months. Forgive me if I'm neither surprised nor particularly perturbed to see that the worm has turned here. My congratulations, though, extend to all those who post with the very obvious intent of ridiculing and harassing those with opposing views to the point of eliminating rational discussion on these boards. If their purpose is to eliminate rational discussion of important political issues, they seem to be succeeding.
oh give me a break!
as the person said above, ive never used his whole name, and i said it for impact, not because i care about him. Honestly, I don't know McCain's Middle name! or Joe Biden's or Sara Palin's. pathetic that you talk about me in third person. ask like the person above. again you know nothing about me, i have pics all up on my myspace of me shaking Obama's hand and me at his speech... you know the old saying if you assume you make an a$$ out of you and me!
Oh, give me a break!!!!!!!
Nancy Pelosi wants to take on some of her "garbage" to the deal. There should be NOTHING added, nadda, let alone her screwed up way of thinking mess. There will be so much added garbage by the thieves on capital hill WE are paying for, the debt itself will never see the money.
Likely to die? Give me a break.
Are you suggesting he's NOT being diligent about his health? Do you think he hasn't had an MRI just because he didn't fax it to your house? Vote for whoever you want, but siding with that numbskull Obama because you have a preminition of death re. his opponent is laughable.
Give me a break!
Hey, guess what? The war in Iraq IS pointless. It was predicated on a lie by power and money hungry idiots (Bush/Cheney, supported by McCain). The idea that our troops should stay and fight and die for a lie just so McCain can put a big W in the win box is sickening. McCain says he's all about veterans...yeah right. I guess that's why he voted against the new GI bill. You may want to take issue with him on that.
Give me a break. Okay...YOU TELL ME.
Follow me now....listen. Obama SAID he is going to give a tax cut to 95% of Americans. He has said it REPEATEDLY. FACT: 95% of Americans DO NOT PAY federal income taxes. Between 30% and 40% DO NOT. Okay...focus here now. HOW is the great and powerful OBama going to give a tax break to THOSE 30-40% who are a LARGE PART of that 95%?????? You said yourself: You cannot be given a tax CUT if you do not pay taxes. Look at his plan AGAIN re: refundable tax credits. THAT is where the 30-40% are going to get their "cut." IN the form of a check. Good grief, it is so simple, is THAT why you don't get it?
If I am so misguided, please help me understand...95% of all Americans are going to get a tax cut. He said it. Repeatedly. 30-40% OF that 95% DO NOT pay federal income tax. So WHERE, unless he is lying through his teeth, is THEIR TAX CUT going to come from, if not through refundable tax credits in the form of a check? Please enlighten me, or bright one who knows SOOOO much more than I do.
Thank you so much.
Give me a break is right.
Someone posts and says we shouldn't post and use the day to mourn Obamas beloved granny. But Obama doesn't stop campaigning. You just don't like it that the truth is coming out about the O. You just don't like it that there is a possibility he could lose. I don't think he will lose but there is that possibility. But your using any excuse to try to suppress information from being put out and telling us we're heartless, etc. When you know for a fact if it was McCains mother you would still be posting articles.
Yes it is sad to lose a grandparent that you love. We all know this. We all have sympathy. But it's not stopping him from continuing to campaign and it shouldn't. The election is tomorrow. He is grieving in his own way as everyone does when they lose a beloved. However because his grandmother died should not stop the Obama supporters to keep supporting and the McCain supporters to keep supporting McCain.
Are you trying to say the Obama should keep campaigning and his supporters keep doing what they're doing but McCain should stop campaigning and his supporters just go into morning for Obama.
GIVE HER A BREAK -was trying to say.
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give me a break
"tax breaks for the wealthy" why is this such a talking point? Tax breaks for EVERYONE THAT PAID TAXES. Because the rich paid a whole h3ll of a lot more than you or me, they get a bigger return, wow that's not hard to make sense out of.
Give me a break
And that statement was from the MT board's 'Trickle Up Economist for 2008!!!  
I do believe she said give it a break.
Yup, that is what she said
come on give him a break...
The only reason I'm commenting is because of all the Bushisms there are and how he people got crazy about how he mispronounced stuff... well im pretty sure Obama stumbled over some words just now too...
but just as it was with Bush, big deal... he's human!
So what? Give him a break.......
'Every move I make, every breath I take.....????
Give me a break...(sm)
There was no working with Bush and his veto pen and you know it. You might want to try the real world instead of that Fox fantasy land.
Give me a break.
I'm sure all Gitmo detainees are terrified for their lives while we provide literature for them to read, provide meals, clothes, etc. I could see why they would be scared for their life considering we have brutally murdered so many detainees, huh? However, if we were prisoners of terrorists....I wouldn't be scared for my life at all because they would never behead me just because I'm an infidel or anything.
These people want us dead and yet some of you continue to feel sorry for them. We seem to have forgotten 9/11.
Give me a break, you get your so-called
facts from the National Review? No wonder. There many, many things in your post that are just out and out untrue. Check your facts, chicky . . . I mean from an honest to goodness intelligent source!
Huh? Give me a break. We all voted him in because...sm
we have a brain and are able to see that he loves his country, is educated and intelligent, a deep thinker, and wants us ALL to have a better life. The crap that the rich pubs have been feeding you is just not true. The scare tactics did not work. I am as white as you can get, I am not a racist, and I voted for Obama because of his vision for all of us. It has nothing to with making history. How would that benefit anyone?
Give it a break. This statement over and over
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Give me a break. All you republicans would be...sm
the first to holler if he would assert himself before being inaugurated. What he states is true. There is only one president of the USA at a time and George Bush is president for another week or so. His time does not start until Jan 20. Wait until then before you start complaining.
Give me a break. There was nothing elusive about W the target.
He constantly made himself an easy mark, time after time after time and, to be sure, it was VERY unhealthy for the nation. You don't have to look far for the evidence...an economy teetering on the brink of depression, universally abysmal approval ratings across party lines, a resounding GOP defeat in November, an 11th hour desperate attempt to rewrite history, a VP coming out of hiding from his undisclosed location to arrogantly pronounce that war crimes committed by the POTUS and VPOTUS lay beyond legal recourse, etc.
Did you bother to read the article? This is coming out of the mouths of Newt Gingrich, Saul Anuzis, republican party chairman in Michigan and possible new RNC chair, republican leaders in Congress, and John McCain, himself, the GOP's fearless leader just a little over a month ago.
Try reading the article before getting all indignant, and pay special attention to the part about the only really EFFECTIVE criticism of Obama being that which has come out of the left-sided, progressive wings of the DNC...not a hypocrite in sight. Sooner or later, for their own good, the GOP is going to have to come to terms with what ails them and how they screwed up in this last election cycle. If they don't, history is bound to repeat itself.
Give the guy a break - in office less than 1 week!
It took Bush longer than that to screw everything up. How long do you think it's going to take President Obama to straighten out this mess?
Give me a break! It is okay if it was Bush, but not okay for Obama!
Guess it will never be okay to make fun of the chosen one.
Oh, please, give me a break....that man sticks his foot
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Like you respected Bush? Give me a VERY LARGE break.
Ridiculous statement. He will get my respect when he EARNS it.
I guess we lefties will hafta give the right a break
Why doesn't the right give the new government a break, and try to work with it instead of undermining any attempts at fixing our country's myriad of problems?
(Because they CAN'T, I guess).
And now Chuck Norris is a govermental/political expert??give me a break!
American Veteran Removes US Flag from beneath Mexican Flag
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Veteran Removes The American Flag This is a video clip showing the veteran who went down to a Mexican restaurant in Reno , NV to take down the American flag that was being flown under their Mexican flag. This guy silenced the folks on the sidewalk and makes me proud to be an American. I think it's going to take a lot more of this kind of revolting to change things....watch and be proud.
American Veteran Removes US Flag from beneath Mexican Flag
Veteran Removes The American Flag This is a video clip showing the veteran who went down to a Mexican restaurant in Reno , NV to take down the American flag that was being flown under their Mexican flag. This guy silenced the folks on the sidewalk and makes me proud to be an American. I think it's going to take a lot more of this kind of revolting to change things....watch and be proud.
World War I flying ace...sm
Good evening everyone.
I would suggest ya'll take time and volunteer at any VA hospital....It'll give you a different perspective to hear what all generations of veterans are thinking about many issues you're debating....Considering we listen for a living you can glean quite a bit of information.... Cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlf---13Q0g
Flying around? What planet are you from?
He got on Airforce One following the protocol for protecting the POTUS. You know, Air Force One, the flying command center of the United States? The VP has a separate protocol and was taken to a separate location. Geeze, maybe you should avail yourself of some information before you post from now on.
He wasn't 'flying around.' Sorry to pop your conspiracy theory bubble, darling, but get your head on straight. And maybe you should educate yourself about the Katrina situation before you open your gob and vomit out the same tired 'bush caused katrina' drivel.
OBAMA IS A WEAKLING. GRAB YOUR ANKLES AND WAIT FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS.
I am seeing double standards flying
all over the place. yes, it bothers me, including on this board. A lot of this stuff is said so viciously it is amazing. I don't think either candidate has a leg to stand on talking about anybody's housing arrangements. Let's face it, none of them know what kind of lives we are living out here. They all sound like they come from everyday people and can identify with us poor slobs. Nobody anymore is going to set down their axe and get on a wagon to washington. Those days are long gone. Drug crimes are ruining this country, we have so lost any attempt at a grip on this, it is unreal; I know - let's go rip somebody for smoking. They probably aren't armed like a 14 year old might be. I wish both sides would tell the whole truth and not just whatever one liners they choose to take out on exhibit. And I think some of the comments safely said incognito are quite brave in their anonymous attacks, right down to picking on someone's clothing or hair. This is totally unnecessary and really juvenile, like a bunch of high school girls beating up on some poor slob nobody likes. No wonder our kids are doing this, they are learning it from their parents. I guess I am just too old now for all this stuff, all I can think is my daddy would have killed me for picking on someone. Too dog pack for me. I can sense you don't like McCain, well I like him better than Obama because I have yet to hear something more substantial than wanting change. Hitler and Castro said exactly the same thing and the people went for it and got what they wanted. And yes, you think it can't possibly happen again, but it can and does. All of American still harping about slavery, but we don't do anything about the slavery still alive and well in Africa and other places, including USA brought over here by other countries who buy kids to do their housework. Obama says charity begins at home, but not apparently for his half-brother who lives in Nairobi on $12 a year. There seem to be new standards in this country and I just can't agree with all of them. He is a perfect candidate for poster child for pro-life. His mother easily could have aborted him and that child would never have grown up to run for President. I used to think I was pro-choice, but after raising children and now enjoying my grandchildren and looking at the partial abortion diagrams, I have had to rethink this. I know some argue life does not begin until later, but every 6th grader is taught life begins with a cells, whether in a plant or animal or human. If a stranger ran up to a pregnant woman and managed to stab her baby in the back of the head with a pair of scissors, he would be arrested, tried and convicted. It is no wonder so many of our youngsters are confused. We are leaving them a huge mess, and I am not happy with anybody running in this election. I may just vote for Paris Hilton, at least she does not pretend to be anything but what she is.
What about flying planes into buildings...a lot of...
collateral damage there, too.
What about the Nazi death camps?
Sometimes war is necessary, as distasteful as it is. There has been collateral damage in Afghanistan too, but both Obama and McCain say we should be there and Obama said last week we should send more troops there.
Collateral damage occurs in wars. And a lot of the collateral damage in Iraq was caused deliberately by AL Qaeda in Iraq against fellow Muslims. Is that more acceptable than accidental collateral damage by our troops?
Flying in high style........sm
I realize he already owned the jet, but REALLY!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454844,00.html
Check your own timeline. He was not flying over New Orleans...
when the levee breached. He was on the ground in Arizona. The corps of engineers had been telling New Orleans and the state of LA that the levees would not hold in a bad storm, but they chose to spend the money elsewhere.
Let's be real here. The whole city is below sea level. As engineers have said even since Katrina, in a huge storm like Katrina and gustav, they might not hold. Nothing Bush can do about that.
That is a ridiculous, mean statement. I repeat...if Obama had been present, he would have been going about his usual day as President also, expecting people to do their jobs. And if he suggests otherwise, I would be the first to call him a liar.
The hurricane is what killed people. George Bush did not kill people.
If he had been a Democratic president, would you be saying this? Of course you wouldn't, you would be defending him right down the line.
That is the difference between you a hard line party follower, and me, an independent not beholden to ANY party. I would be defending that President no matter WHAT party he was in. THe people he trusted to do the job failed him. The state and local authorities failed their constituents.
And bottom line...it was the hurricane that killed people and destroyed property. Not George Bush. Just like it will be the hurricane this time, but EVERYONE learned from the last one, including state and local authorities, and the Republican governor of Louisianna has done an outstanding job in moving that along. Former Dem Governor Blanco is no longer in politics. Wonder why that is.
That being said...it was no one person's fault. All can share some of the blame.
But don't see you attacking anyone but George Bush.
Wonder why THAT is?
While the "poo" is flying, let's note I did not make my post about whether...sm
I agreed with the stimulus package, because if you read further back on this board, I have been stating my opposition clearly for weeks, and just what I have problems with! This post was about a thinly-veiled, very inflammatory, crude, demeaning, hurtful "comic," and not just for the President, many African-Americans were hurt by this, and wrong is wrong, I am keeping my post specifically to this one point, I am sick of "pubs" or anyone else clouding issues by dragging other irrelevant issues in. The Post really demeaned themselves by publishing this, and they know it!!
no flag for me
I wont hang a flag, but if I did it would be upside down, the symbol for help/distress. Or I would rather burn a flag. Sorry, for the negativity but that is how I feel about this country. My father fought in WWII and received a Purple Heart, my cousin is in the Navy right now. I just dont recognize America anymore. It is not my country. I feel like I have just landed on earth from Mars, LOL. Now, Sandra Day O'Connor is retiring, oh boy..another major fight with the right wing. Bush is on TV now saying..yada..yada..yada, he will take into consideration, yada..yada..yada..We know who he will nominate, a radical right wing nut. Sigh..
Flag pin
I love our country and respect it, but I do not wear a flag pin ever. I don't see why wearing a flag pin is so important. I was never taught to put my hand over my heart for the national anthem and most people I know do not. Men are to take their hats out, stand tall and pay attention, nothing else.
I don't understand all the attention on a pin.
put on your flag pin, your big
girl panties and pay your fair share. I don't want to work to pay taxes that go to the endless war, yet as an american citizen, I do because I must. Think of others for a change.
Oh no...not the flag pin again. LOL
Red flag s/m
The site is a blog. I notice that what I thought was a link to Obama's tax returns didn't go anywhere. The only thing visible is the "summary" of what this person SAYS is on the tax forms. Show me the REAL tax return and I'll be happy to say what I think about his charitable contributions. In the meantime, it is his business as McCain's tax return is his business.
the flag pin dealio
is a Rovian tactic aimed at the dumbest, uneducated, stick-in-the eye voters. Like those Pennsylvanians in the Oprah book of the month. Called Country Roads or something. Was rural PA residents which had murder, incest, etc. A good read.
Aren't you ashamed to include yourself in that group? Real problems need to be solved, not accessorized with flag pins.
oh drop the flag pin, will you?
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Something sends up a red flag
It was on every single station except for two. Didn't watch it because it's just another form of brainwashing. Why does he need a commercial where it is blatanly obvious he did it so nobody would be able to ask him any questions. What's on the mind of everyone I know is why didn't he hold a conference and take questions?
Heard he said (or will be saying) the same ol same ol.
Just another regime tactic.
I am sure that the supervisor did not say that the flag
is offensive. How could she? She herself, I am sure, is already an US citizen, after being for 14 years in this country and being her supervisor.
It was all about the supersized flag!
A little thing on her desk would have been enoigh!
It was all about the SUPERSIZED flag
and I am sure that the supervisor did not say that the flag is offensive.
and then he proceeded to wad the flag up!
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Great post!! And I will put out my flag, too.
We are so divided in this country that sometimes I think we're headed for another civil war.
But we are still all Americans, and we've got to find a way to come together.
I remember how it seemed the entire country came together after 9/11. I hope that can happen again without such a tragedy preceding it.
I hope you and your family have a blessed 4th!!! 
My flag flies every day, not just today.
Always has, always will.
You can't honor the flag and still think about those things? nm
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