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GOP, bunch of liars and criminals

Posted By: gt on 2005-10-02
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The GOP's Spreading Plague
    By Joe Conason
    Salon.com

    Friday 30 September 2005

Voters are notoriously slow in voting out politicians accused of corruption, but they may reach the tipping point with the latest revelations.

    To be an honest Republican these days must be to wonder what awful revelation is coming next - and how the Grand Old Party, which once claimed to represent political reform, became a front for sleaze, corruption and cynical criminality. Across the country, from the Capitol to statehouses, Republican officials are under indictment, under investigation or under suspicion.

    This week's headlines featured the indictment of Rep. Tom DeLay and the probe of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, but the infection of venality among their fellow partisans is now reaching epidemic proportions. So widespread is the plague that keeping track of all the individual cases, and their increasingly baroque variations, has become a distinct challenge.

    Consider Jack Abramoff, once the prince of K Street lobbyists and a dedicated right-wing ideologue who boasted of his powerful connections to DeLay, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and the entire Republican apparatus in Washington. Already under investigation by the Justice Department for his influence peddling among House members, including DeLay, and his swindling of Indian tribes, Abramoff was indicted last month for bank fraud in a separate South Florida case involving a casino boat company that he partly owned.

    The fraud allegedly committed by Abramoff and his business partner Adam Kidan involved a phony wire transfer they used to purchase a controlling interest in SunCruz from the company's founder, Konstantinos Gus Boulis, in 2001.

    Abramoff and Kidan later fell out with Boulis in a bitter business dispute that turned violent. In February 2001, gunmen ambushed Boulis on a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., highway and shot him repeatedly. On Tuesday, Florida authorities arrested three New York men with mob connections for the Boulis killing. Two of the men - Anthony Moscatiello and Tony Ferrari - had received payments totaling more than $240,000 from Kidan and Abramoff. Moscatiello, a longtime associate of the Gambino Mafia family, and Ferrari were supposedly providing food and consulting services to SunCruz - or so Kidan claimed when questioned by prosecutors. There is no evidence, however, that Moscatiello and Ferrari provided any services to the company.

    Connecting the dots isn't difficult here: Kidan and Abramoff want to get rid of Boulis, who won't go away. Kidan and Abramoff hire Moscatiello and Ferrari with SunCruz money. Moscatiello and Ferrari allegedly whack Boulis, without any motive of their own. If the Broward County state's attorney has sufficient evidence to win convictions for a capital crime, some people will probably be talking soon in hope of avoiding the hot shot.

    The stunning fall of Abramoff, who has yet to hit bottom, is certainly the most colorful tale of Republican depravity. The corporate money laundering to Texas politicians that led to DeLay's conspiracy indictment, and the suspicious insider stock transaction that spurred investigations of Frist by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, seem mundane by comparison. Outrage will be warranted if their misconduct is proved, but everyone sadly knows that these felonies are now common practice in our political and corporate culture.

    Corporate misbehavior has also brought down right-wing publisher Conrad Black, neoconservative strategist and former Bush advisor Richard Perle and the entire corporate board of Hollinger Inc., the Republican-friendly media conglomerate formerly controlled by Lord Black - and that he and others are plausibly accused of illicitly looting for their own benefit. Furious shareholders forced Black to relinquish control of the company and are suing him, as well as Perle and former Black deputy David Radler, for $500 million. The SEC is also suing Black and Radler, and the Justice Department is investigating the former Hollinger directors.

    Last month, US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who also happens to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, accepted Radler's guilty plea to mail fraud and wire fraud. Radler is now believed to be cooperating in the prosecution of what former SEC chairman Richard Breeden, a Republican who investigated Hollinger on behalf of shareholders, termed a corporate kleptocracy.

    Kleptocratic morality evidently ruled at least two Republican statehouses in the Midwest as well. Currently under indictment are former Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, whose trial on bribery charges began last week, and Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio, who pleaded no contest last month to charges of accepting illegal gifts from a state contractor.

    That contractor is Thomas Noe, a coin dealer who received lucrative investment deals with the state's Workers Compensation Fund and is now at the center of a gigantic scandal known as Coingate. More than $12 million has disappeared from the fund, and former GOP official Noe stands accused of laundering money to various Republican politicians, including the Bush-Cheney campaign. Like Abramoff, Noe is a Bush Pioneer, responsible for raising at least $100,000 for the president last year.

    Still another Pioneer is currently under criminal investigation in a celebrated corruption case involving Randy Duke Cunningham, a prominent Republican representative from San Diego with a senior position on the House defense appropriations subcommittee. On Aug. 18, FBI and IRS agents raided the offices of defense contractor and Bush fundraiser Brent Wilkes.

    Wilkes is reportedly a former business associate of Mitchell J. Wade, the head of a defense contracting firm called MZM Inc. who is under investigation in San Diego for alleged bribery of Cunningham. According to newspaper reports, Wade purchased a home owned by Cunningham at a price inflated by at least $700,000, and also permitted the congressman to use his 42-foot yacht free of charge. Federal agents searched Wade's offices in July.

    Although prosecutors have brought no criminal charges in the case yet, they have filed civil court documents describing the home sale as a violation of federal bribery laws - and Cunningham, who has served in Congress for decades, has already announced that he will not seek another term next year.

    The Republican National Committee's new treasurer, Robert Kjellander, is under investigation too. (Naturally, he is also a Bush Pioneer.) Not long after he assumed his new post at the party's Washington headquarters, Kjellander received a federal subpoena for records of his dealings with the Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, a state pension fund, and the Carlyle Group. Federal prosecutors are reportedly looking into alleged corruption at the fund, and have asked Kjellander to provide information about a $4.5 million fee he received from Carlyle for his role in arranging investments by the fund with the huge private equity fund. Carlyle, of course, is closely connected to the Bush administration, including the president's father, George H.W. Bush, who has worked for the firm as a rainmaker and advisor.

    In fairness, it should be said that all these pols and parasites may be innocent (except for those already convicted), or at least not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is also true that voters have historically been slow to evict politicians from office because of corruption charges.

    But public opinion of congressional Republicans is hitting new lows, and Americans are growing furious about the war in Iraq, the government response to Hurricane Katrina and rising energy prices. The natural impulse to throw the rascals out can only be encouraged by the Gilded Age spectacles now unfolding in Washington and in cities across the country as the indictments continue to come down between now and November 2006.




    Joe Conason writes a weekly column for Salon and the New York Observer.


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The facts..the fall out..the seats beside saddam..

Some soldiers claim that Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (Conduct Unbecoming), is being used to silence them from leaking information about military atrocities. The commanding superiors argument is that it's meant to suppress dissent in the ranks, but the forced silence of military personnel should not be taken as an endorsement that soldiers aren't in disagreement with the Bush administration. According to a recent Zogby poll, 72% of US soldiers in Iraq want to leave. If more soldiers read the UCMJ, they would be alarmed to find out what....... a by-the-book soldier {knew}, and could, as matters stand, make an assault on their chain of command that would shine light on the illegality of their call of duty in Iraq.
Moreover, Article 133, under section (3), states; committing, or attempting to commit crimes involving moral turpitude, it could be argued that sodomizing Iraqi prisoners, forcing them to masturbate, and raping female Iraqi prisoners meets this criterion of prosecution under military law.

And Article 134 (Assault-indecent) makes it punishable to bring discredit upon the armed forces. This falls under acts of violation of civil and foreign law which brings disrepute or which tends to lower the US armed forces in public esteem.

Military members who willfully disobey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences. Thus, I was only following orders is commonly used as a legal defense.

An order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference must not, however, apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime. Thus, the I was only following orders argument can be an unsuccessful defense, most notably by Nazi leaders at the Nuremberg tribunals following WWII.

Military courts hold military members accountable for their actions even while following orders - if the order is illegal.

Article VI of the US Constitution states that treaty obligations of the United States are the supreme law of the land, and the US Supreme Court has held that international law, to include custom, are part of the US law. This means that treaties and agreements the United States enters into enjoy equal status as laws passed by Congress and signed by the President. Therefore, all persons subject to US law must observe the United States' Law of Armed Conflict obligations. In particular, military personnel must consider LOAC to plan and execute operations and must obey LOAC in combat. Those who violate LOAC may be held criminally liable for war crimes and court-martialed under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Under the Rules of War The Law of Armed Conflict aims to protect civilians, prisoners of war, the wounded, sick and shipwrecked. DoDD 5100.77 requires each military department to design a program that ensures LOAC observance, prevents LOAC violations, ensures prompt reporting of alleged LOAC violations, appropriately trains all forces in LOAC, and completes legal review of new weapons. LOAC training is the treaty obligation of the United States under provisions of the 1949 Geneva Conventions

The Bush-Cheney administration has carried out the destruction of Iraq violating the UN Charter, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg Charter, the Law of Armed Conflict and patently commissioning through the chain of command violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Laying the Foundation: The Gulf War Crimes

None of this is particularly shocking if we look at the many signals of the Bush dynasty's thirst for global domination. Take for example Ramsey Clark's indictment of 1991 Gulf War Crimes: The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed civilian life, commercial and business districts, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, shelters, residential areas, historical sites, private vehicles and civilian government offices.

General Thomas Kelly commented on February 23, 1991, that by the time the ground war begins there won't be many of them left. General Norman Schwarzkopf placed Iraqi military casualties at over 100,000. The ratio of US soldier's K.I.A. (148) to Iraqi combined military and civilian deaths was well over 1 to 20.

By the time the US military was finished with Desert Storm, seven times the explosive force of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima (100,000 killed) had been expended upon Iraq, returning their economic infrastructure to a pre-industrial age.

The purpose of the attacks, writes Clark, was to destroy life, property and terrorize the civilian population. On the highways, civilian vehicles including public buses taxicabs and passenger cars were bombed and strafed at random to frighten civilians from flight, from seeking food or medical care, finding relatives or other uses of highways ...

General Colin Powell's response to the extraordinary number of noncombatant deaths was, It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in.

During the ten years of US enforced sanctions in Iraq after Desert Storm, 525,000 men, women and children died from starvation, untreated disease, depleted uranium radiation exposure, and malnutrition.

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SOLDIERS NEEDN'T OBEY BUSH!!!!!

Bush and Cheney are War Criminals; disobeying a War Criminal is NOT a crime!!!

Use of Depleted Uranium by Bush and Cheney IS a War Crime!!!

Soldiers can in good conscience disobey the orders of War Criminals.

Please pass on this specific legal information to any soldier you know.
They are all criminals...sm
I can not believe they voted Nagin back in. I just can't believe it, but they did. In that sense, they get what they pay for. However, many New Orleanians do not plan on going back because of how it was handled on local, state and federal level and more are leaving because of it.

I am more concerned with the *response* because that time was so critical. I feel at that time it became a federal responsibility. I posed the question, and I will again, why can Bush get his boots on the ground in Florida within 24 hours after a huricane with a check in hand for w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r needs to be done. Blank check. Yet, he goes on business as usual Iraq speeches, guitar playing, and everything and not until he is criticized that he shows up for photo ops. In my mind this is criminal as well.

Even though state and local were negligent, to her defense, Blanco did declare a state of emergency and requested federal aid before Katrina. It turned out to be too little too late because the feds were not prepared to handle a disaster either. You would think post 9-11 they would be but then we don't all have PhDs.
Criminals...
Don't forget Bill's felony perjury, and we should re-open the Vince Foster case. Like I said on the other board....there are some REALLY big skeletons in the Clinton closet. I know Juanita Broaddrick and I believe that Clinton raped her. And as bad as he is...I believe his wife is as bad or worse. There are an alarming number of people who have died around these two.
The state and local levels are the criminals here
I'm sick and tired of Bush getting all the blame. The local and state governments diverted pre-Katrina funds to shore up levees and to solidify effective hurricane evacuation to their pet projects. Ray Nagin let thousands of school buses sit in the New Orleans public school bus yard because he could not authorize their use. How, many phone calls would it have taken for him to get to the right person who could authorize it??? Probably less than two. He's one of the most inept and corrupt people in N.O. and yet the lemmings of N.O. voted him back in, because he could whine about the Fed. He didn't give a rip until his city was dessiminated then he did the usual nanny state liberal thing and that was to blame someone else. Don't even get me started on Ms. Air-head governor. She is a complete joke.

The federal government may beeen slow, but the state and local governments were beyond negligent. They are criminals.
What does crooks and criminals have to do with Cynthia McKinney? sm
She is going exactly what I would want her to do - HER JOB! 50% of Americans have asked for this. She is fully aware of the attacks from the media, etc. that lie ahead. See quote below:

From her inquiries into election fraud in 2000 to her calls for a transparent and thorough investigation into 9/11, not to mention the widely covered run-in she had with the Capitol Hill Police, the congresswoman is aware that this resolution will likely be ignored and that she will be ruthlessly attacked upon its filing.

What do you think they are going to do to me this time? she asks her staff. Everyone uncomfortably shifts in their seats, and after no answer comes, McKinney explains: We have to do this because this is simply the right thing to do. The American people do want to hold this man and his office accountable for the crimes they have committed, and if no member of Congress is willing to do it, than I will.


disgusting, lying murdering war criminals are at it again.
"We're so sorry about those civilians."  Killers of women, children and elders.  Occupation, starvation and now massacre in one of the world's most densely populated areas.  US and Israel are the only countries on the planet who think this disproportionate response is somehow justified. The most outrageous nation on the planet on the face of the earth, responsible for so much pain and suffering.  Outrageous.   Warped evil, brought to you by your tax dollars.  Their blood is on all our hands.   Flame away.  I don't care.  
Bush and Cheney are criminals no cheerio about it sm
Bush looked ashamed today at the inauguration. Cheney was in a wheelchair, laying low.

We KILL violent criminals; apparently some think unborn children are the
criminals as they are murdered as well.

Sad.
Zero tolerance for liars
Imagine how it would change the face of politics today if Republicans suddenly had TRUE "zero tolerance" for lying, cheating, stealing, vote fraud, false front groups, media shills, corporate malfeasance, crony capitalism, torture of innocents, war profiteering, oppressive foreign regimes and presidential dissembling.

But nah...instead they seem to have very high tolerance levels for all of the above - hence the claim to "zero tolerance", using their favorite trick of naming a thing the exact opposite of what it really is.






Oh gt, you think all reps are liars.

not all republicans are liars
No I dont think all republicans are liars.  I think many twist the truth to try to justify their opinion and beliefs instead of looking at the cold hard facts.  I judge each person individually, however, when someone does lie consistently or believes in a fantasy world, like Bush does..telling us every day Iraq is getting better when we can clearly see that it isnt..when people manipulate the science and change the figures or the intelligence data for their own agenda and gain, then I judge those people harshly and never believe them again.  Bush is like the little boy who cried wolf.  He has lied so darn much, I dont believe a word he says any more and I dont trust him at all.
It has to do with crooks & liars.
I see them linked here a lot and I put them right up there with DU and Daily Kos. 
All politicians are liars!
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Well, now you have two liars and two cheats
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All politicians are liars.
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Have only called the lying ones liars....

And that is really only a handful.  There are some who post on the conservative board who may hold a different political philosophy than me, but they do not seem to be liars.


Why do you ask?


Okay....then let's just say neither of them are liars. They just changed their minds.
I'll go with that. My entire point is that you can't really call one of them a liar and say the other just "changed his/her mind."
crooks and liars.com... why am I not surprised....sm
Speaking of crooks and liars, where are Bill and Hillary Clinton's??????



but some people are BIGGER liars
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most people are freakin liars too
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I guess it's only ok when pubs call the cia liars? (sm)

You guys really need to get a grip.  By the way, exactly what do plan to accomplish if you could prove that Pelosi did know about torture?  And if you're looking for some sort of payback for taking down Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, would that not also apply to every other senator (pub and dem) in those briefings?  What you guys are doing are playing partisan politics and failing miserably at it.


http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/20/gingrich-hoekstra/


I guess Henry Ford and Churchill were big fat liars, too, gt. sm

MARCH OF THE TITANS -


A HISTORY OF THE WHITE RACE


Chapter 64:The Racial State - The Third Reich


Part Four: The "Final Solution": Nazi Policy towards Jews


The Third Reich and Adolf Hitler will always be associated with an outburst of anti-Jewish sentiment not seen since the Crusades or the Middle Ages. Despite countless books and films having been created on the actual anti-Jewish activities themselves, almost none have focused on trying to explain why Hitler and the Nazi Party were anti-Jewish.


Nazi anti-Jewishness was based on three pillars:


• First, Jews were identified with political subversion and Communism in particular. (See chapter 61:"Jews and Communism") As outlined earlier, this sentiment was by no means a Nazi invention, and had been written about in public by Winston Churchill and a host of others including Henry Ford in America;  the political subversion of which Jews were accused ranged from the fantastic (the Protocols of Zion) to the promotion of pornography, racial mixing, degenerate art ("modern art") and other issues identified as problematic by the Nazis;







Above: Nazi propaganda  depicting Jews (Stars of David); Capitalism, (Dollar Signs) and Communism (Hammer and Sickles) all as part of the disease under inspection.


• Secondly, the Nazis associated Jews with super capitalism and economic exploitation. This descended directly from the traditional and pre-Christian objections to Jews. Hitlerian anti-Jewishness also accentuated the links between Jewish super capitalists and Communism, personified by the financing of the 1917 Russian Revolution by the American Jewish banker Jacob Schiff; and


• Thirdly, the Nazis associated Christianity with Jews, arguing that this religion was the product of Middle Eastern thought and not native Europe. The Nazis did not however dare to attack Christianity openly, rather leaving it alone to wither by itself, something that has to a large degree started to become reality by the end of the 20th century. Nonetheless, if the private comments of Hitler himself on Christianity are read, it can be seen that Hitler clearly identified Christianity with Jews.


 Only in this light can an understanding of the motivating factors behind the state that Hitler created be gained: a tradition of anti-Semitism going back centuries, modern political thought associating Jews with Communism and subversion, the degradation of Germany under the Treaty of Versailles, economic collapse, and the outstanding oratorical ability of Hitler himself. All of these factors combined to propel the Nazi Party to power in 1933.


Only hateful liars would be proud it wasn't a failure.

You're right - due to the slimy, lying, underhanded tactics of the administration and your boy, Bush, the Swift Boat fiasco with Kerry may  have had an impact on the election.  You sound like you're proud of that.  Figures.


Why can't you folks just leave Sheehan alone.  Why can't someone be anti-war and speak their mind without you guys going nuts? 


Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm
Joe Scarborough: Republicans want him to SHUT UP

On Joe's show tonight, he went off on Republicans that do not like him speaking out against this administration's handling of Katrina.

Joe: I'm getting lectured from Republicans in Oregon, California, upstate New York, Arizona telling me I need to back off the President, I need to back off of FEMA, I need to back off these state leaders. You and I are on the Gulf Coast- we know how these things are supposed to be run. This has nothing to do with politics...

                                Video-WMP

                                Video-QT

The Republicans are obviously worried that this Republican talk show host's point of view isn't following their talking points and is a real problem because he's not a Democrat saying them. Joe has been honest before (Schiavo not included) and is simply exposing their ineptitude that so many people are feeling right now.



So then you are denying that you guys call all conservative posters liars? sm
If you did, that would be a lie. 
Wow, newbie Jackie is with the PROGRAM!!! Alright! Already calling people liars. sm
What a gooooooooood little liberal you are!  HIGH FIVE!
sorry bunch of

comments.  nit pickers unite!!


 


 


Bunch of wussies
Which is why we are where we are right now..We are pansies, wussies.  We dont take a stand, we are wishy washy.  I am just acting like a republican and striking back and using the good old smear campaign that republicans have perfected.  You continue to be quiet, mild mannered and you will get no where in today's politics.  Hate??  Nah.  I hate no one.  Im just playing the same game the republicans are playing.  What is good for one is good for the other..I think it is fun watching the lying opposition squirm, makes me smile.
Boy that's a whole bunch of people.
Please provide evidence that backs up your claim that liberals always, always utilize name-calling.  Not sure exactly how many million people that it just in the U.S.  Does this also include Europeans, etc.?  Please share where you got this information.  Seems like kind of a ridiculous claim, but that's just my opinion.
What a bunch of prudes.
besides that, I think the whole nation is due for a HUGE party after having endured 8 years of W and a perfectly wretched presidential campaign. An exciting celebration is just what the doctor ordered in the midst of a collapsing economy, the post dismal holiday blues and unemployment/food stamp and jobless rates at highest in decades. What would you have them do? Sit around reviewing their shrinking 401Ks or file their taxes perhaps? Sheesh. Lighten up, will ya?
what a bunch of hicks
Watch CNBC for the rest of the week 24/7 and then vote.
what a bunch of negative

nellies.  Why even bother getting up in the morning with that burden of resentment on your shoulders?


 


What a bunch of losers.
lawsuit after lawsuit and NOW we have Obama being portrayed as having quadruple citizenship. Do you hear yourselves? Preposterous. Ridiculous. Stupid. Full of all kinds of phoney outrage. For crying out loud, get over yourselves.
Along with a bunch of Republicans

banks by tens of billions of dollars.


http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090206/Bailout.Oversight/


What a bunch of Pelosi!!!
In other words...what a bunch of bu!!sh!t.
Is this what it has come to, a bunch of draft dodging, sm
stay-at-home politicians calling decorated war veterans cowards. They have their nerve.

I have been out of the loop lately with politics, but this tops all.
Well you had to know the threats were coming next from this bunch..nm

They are a scary bunch aren't they?sm
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” –Thomas Jefferson
looks like a bunch of sheep to me living in USA..sm

hmmmmm....?  Just because everyone is voting for Barack doesn't make any of it right - they all are bad candidates to some of us......


blechhhhhhhhhhhhh


JMO.........no flames required......


Yes. We are all a bunch of stupid wretches
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I just got off that site after reading a bunch

of questions. Some are inappropriate as:"Why does your wife look so miserable all the time." This has nothing to do with serious questions. There was also one on there about somebody losing their labradoodle and what was he going to do about it. Others are down right nasty. I call that abuse.  


Some people are just plain nuts. There are over 11,700 questions listed on there and I think I only got to read around 300. Most that I read were appropriate and relate to questions on what he was planning to do.


Now, before you scream at me, I didn't vote for him, I'm definitely not a fan of his, but I'm willing to watch and see what happens and give an opinion or two once in a while....and that's all it is, an opinion, like everyone else on this board are allowed.


I love it! Bunch of bums. NM

Yeah, thanks a bunch for posting....sm
Even though most of the "blame" can be contributed to the dems through the years, repubs are, in part, also to blame, for not sticking to their guns.

Sam has been posting this stuff for weeks, and I don't care if she does paraphrase what she reads, because she makes it easy to understand too.

Anyways, this guy is spot on for his short in a nutshell review, too. Really liked his website.



I think we should be glad the bill didn't pass. It still had a bunch of crap in it. Maybe they'll get it right this next time.
I'm thinking of buying a bunch of really mean -
pitbulls, and teaching them to seek and destroy wall street CEO's.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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I want facts, not a bunch of mumbogumbo.
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Can we avoid lumping everyone into one bunch?

I'm a liberal and I have to say, I really resent it when people say the libs this or the dem's that and refer to all of us in one great big bunch that worships Obama and thinks he's the messiah.   It really bugs the crap out of me.  He's a man.  He's not my Savior. 


I have seen condescension and name calling from BOTH sides of the fence, none of which is appropriate coming from anyone who calls themself an adult.  I do find it interesting that it seems to be much more accepted in this election cycle than in years before.  I don't know if it's because of the proliferation of message boards and the complete lack of humanity that tends to go with posting on them, or if it's this particular year and set of candidates/winners.


Let's give the man a chance.  Yes, he's a man.  I believe he is a very smart man and I have high hopes for him.  Let's avoid name calling, liberal bashing, conservative hate, etc.  That just does everyone a disservice.


Pelosi, O and the bunch don't have the balls to do it...nm
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Low class for that bunch ain't news to me.....
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I saw it too. What a bunch of brainless blabber.
Ultra-left garafabarf skank.
their deeds won't be lost....they get a bunch of
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