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We KILL violent criminals; apparently some think unborn children are the

Posted By: Amy on 2005-07-24
In Reply to: It may apply to your religion, but - MM

criminals as they are murdered as well.

Sad.


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    Thou shall not kill applies to unborn babies. sm
    They are alive, no matter how many pretty pictures you try to paint about it.  They are life, God's life. 
    Murdering unborn children IS MY BUSINESS!!
    If you really believe every murdered unborn child is because there were medical necessities, you really are living in la-la land!

    I have had friends who have gone through being told after testing their babies were deformed, wouldn't live after birth, would have horrible deformities, etc., and out of 4 friends who have been told this, only ONE child truly had problems. That didn't stop them from having their child. They never thought about NOT having their child....after all, it was THEIR child!


    The plot was to first kill 88 black children in a school...
    then to behead 14 other non-white children and then make an attempt, that they did not expect to be fruitful, to kill Obama. These were skin heads and I think that the greater point was that they were trying to kill children. I am clearly conservative and I think the whole thing is disgusting, but certainly not McCain's or Palin's fault. I am sure they find it dispicable, as well!
    war criminals
    The facts..the fall out..the seats beside saddam..

    Some soldiers claim that Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (Conduct Unbecoming), is being used to silence them from leaking information about military atrocities. The commanding superiors argument is that it's meant to suppress dissent in the ranks, but the forced silence of military personnel should not be taken as an endorsement that soldiers aren't in disagreement with the Bush administration. According to a recent Zogby poll, 72% of US soldiers in Iraq want to leave. If more soldiers read the UCMJ, they would be alarmed to find out what....... a by-the-book soldier {knew}, and could, as matters stand, make an assault on their chain of command that would shine light on the illegality of their call of duty in Iraq.
    Moreover, Article 133, under section (3), states; committing, or attempting to commit crimes involving moral turpitude, it could be argued that sodomizing Iraqi prisoners, forcing them to masturbate, and raping female Iraqi prisoners meets this criterion of prosecution under military law.

    And Article 134 (Assault-indecent) makes it punishable to bring discredit upon the armed forces. This falls under acts of violation of civil and foreign law which brings disrepute or which tends to lower the US armed forces in public esteem.

    Military members who willfully disobey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences. Thus, I was only following orders is commonly used as a legal defense.

    An order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference must not, however, apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime. Thus, the I was only following orders argument can be an unsuccessful defense, most notably by Nazi leaders at the Nuremberg tribunals following WWII.

    Military courts hold military members accountable for their actions even while following orders - if the order is illegal.

    Article VI of the US Constitution states that treaty obligations of the United States are the supreme law of the land, and the US Supreme Court has held that international law, to include custom, are part of the US law. This means that treaties and agreements the United States enters into enjoy equal status as laws passed by Congress and signed by the President. Therefore, all persons subject to US law must observe the United States' Law of Armed Conflict obligations. In particular, military personnel must consider LOAC to plan and execute operations and must obey LOAC in combat. Those who violate LOAC may be held criminally liable for war crimes and court-martialed under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    Under the Rules of War The Law of Armed Conflict aims to protect civilians, prisoners of war, the wounded, sick and shipwrecked. DoDD 5100.77 requires each military department to design a program that ensures LOAC observance, prevents LOAC violations, ensures prompt reporting of alleged LOAC violations, appropriately trains all forces in LOAC, and completes legal review of new weapons. LOAC training is the treaty obligation of the United States under provisions of the 1949 Geneva Conventions

    The Bush-Cheney administration has carried out the destruction of Iraq violating the UN Charter, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg Charter, the Law of Armed Conflict and patently commissioning through the chain of command violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    Laying the Foundation: The Gulf War Crimes

    None of this is particularly shocking if we look at the many signals of the Bush dynasty's thirst for global domination. Take for example Ramsey Clark's indictment of 1991 Gulf War Crimes: The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed civilian life, commercial and business districts, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, shelters, residential areas, historical sites, private vehicles and civilian government offices.

    General Thomas Kelly commented on February 23, 1991, that by the time the ground war begins there won't be many of them left. General Norman Schwarzkopf placed Iraqi military casualties at over 100,000. The ratio of US soldier's K.I.A. (148) to Iraqi combined military and civilian deaths was well over 1 to 20.

    By the time the US military was finished with Desert Storm, seven times the explosive force of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima (100,000 killed) had been expended upon Iraq, returning their economic infrastructure to a pre-industrial age.

    The purpose of the attacks, writes Clark, was to destroy life, property and terrorize the civilian population. On the highways, civilian vehicles including public buses taxicabs and passenger cars were bombed and strafed at random to frighten civilians from flight, from seeking food or medical care, finding relatives or other uses of highways ...

    General Colin Powell's response to the extraordinary number of noncombatant deaths was, It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in.

    During the ten years of US enforced sanctions in Iraq after Desert Storm, 525,000 men, women and children died from starvation, untreated disease, depleted uranium radiation exposure, and malnutrition.

    ==========

    SOLDIERS NEEDN'T OBEY BUSH!!!!!

    Bush and Cheney are War Criminals; disobeying a War Criminal is NOT a crime!!!

    Use of Depleted Uranium by Bush and Cheney IS a War Crime!!!

    Soldiers can in good conscience disobey the orders of War Criminals.

    Please pass on this specific legal information to any soldier you know.
    They are all criminals...sm
    I can not believe they voted Nagin back in. I just can't believe it, but they did. In that sense, they get what they pay for. However, many New Orleanians do not plan on going back because of how it was handled on local, state and federal level and more are leaving because of it.

    I am more concerned with the *response* because that time was so critical. I feel at that time it became a federal responsibility. I posed the question, and I will again, why can Bush get his boots on the ground in Florida within 24 hours after a huricane with a check in hand for w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r needs to be done. Blank check. Yet, he goes on business as usual Iraq speeches, guitar playing, and everything and not until he is criticized that he shows up for photo ops. In my mind this is criminal as well.

    Even though state and local were negligent, to her defense, Blanco did declare a state of emergency and requested federal aid before Katrina. It turned out to be too little too late because the feds were not prepared to handle a disaster either. You would think post 9-11 they would be but then we don't all have PhDs.
    Criminals...
    Don't forget Bill's felony perjury, and we should re-open the Vince Foster case. Like I said on the other board....there are some REALLY big skeletons in the Clinton closet. I know Juanita Broaddrick and I believe that Clinton raped her. And as bad as he is...I believe his wife is as bad or worse. There are an alarming number of people who have died around these two.
    Not defending violent protesters, but for the 10,000 others
    nm
    And? Some revolutions aren't violent....
    remember the old take them over without firing a shot?

    If you were really concerned, whch you obviously aren't...you can do the research and see what happens to socialist countries...they evolve into dictatorships and/or communism, and the middle class disappears...money at the very top, and that's it. The middle class and the lower class become the same. Yeah I know you think it can't happen here. I don't imagine the countries where it has happened thought it could happen there either.
    Hannity's violent revolution..(sm)

    This is what's on Hannity's webpage.


    http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/02/hannitys-america-what-kind-of.html


    Isn't this something like....oh.....maybe inciting treason or something?


    Gee, the only violent hate groups I see around here
    @@
    Murdering near-term babies isn't violent?
    nm
    GOP, bunch of liars and criminals
    The GOP's Spreading Plague
        By Joe Conason
        Salon.com

        Friday 30 September 2005

    Voters are notoriously slow in voting out politicians accused of corruption, but they may reach the tipping point with the latest revelations.

        To be an honest Republican these days must be to wonder what awful revelation is coming next - and how the Grand Old Party, which once claimed to represent political reform, became a front for sleaze, corruption and cynical criminality. Across the country, from the Capitol to statehouses, Republican officials are under indictment, under investigation or under suspicion.

        This week's headlines featured the indictment of Rep. Tom DeLay and the probe of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, but the infection of venality among their fellow partisans is now reaching epidemic proportions. So widespread is the plague that keeping track of all the individual cases, and their increasingly baroque variations, has become a distinct challenge.

        Consider Jack Abramoff, once the prince of K Street lobbyists and a dedicated right-wing ideologue who boasted of his powerful connections to DeLay, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and the entire Republican apparatus in Washington. Already under investigation by the Justice Department for his influence peddling among House members, including DeLay, and his swindling of Indian tribes, Abramoff was indicted last month for bank fraud in a separate South Florida case involving a casino boat company that he partly owned.

        The fraud allegedly committed by Abramoff and his business partner Adam Kidan involved a phony wire transfer they used to purchase a controlling interest in SunCruz from the company's founder, Konstantinos Gus Boulis, in 2001.

        Abramoff and Kidan later fell out with Boulis in a bitter business dispute that turned violent. In February 2001, gunmen ambushed Boulis on a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., highway and shot him repeatedly. On Tuesday, Florida authorities arrested three New York men with mob connections for the Boulis killing. Two of the men - Anthony Moscatiello and Tony Ferrari - had received payments totaling more than $240,000 from Kidan and Abramoff. Moscatiello, a longtime associate of the Gambino Mafia family, and Ferrari were supposedly providing food and consulting services to SunCruz - or so Kidan claimed when questioned by prosecutors. There is no evidence, however, that Moscatiello and Ferrari provided any services to the company.

        Connecting the dots isn't difficult here: Kidan and Abramoff want to get rid of Boulis, who won't go away. Kidan and Abramoff hire Moscatiello and Ferrari with SunCruz money. Moscatiello and Ferrari allegedly whack Boulis, without any motive of their own. If the Broward County state's attorney has sufficient evidence to win convictions for a capital crime, some people will probably be talking soon in hope of avoiding the hot shot.

        The stunning fall of Abramoff, who has yet to hit bottom, is certainly the most colorful tale of Republican depravity. The corporate money laundering to Texas politicians that led to DeLay's conspiracy indictment, and the suspicious insider stock transaction that spurred investigations of Frist by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, seem mundane by comparison. Outrage will be warranted if their misconduct is proved, but everyone sadly knows that these felonies are now common practice in our political and corporate culture.

        Corporate misbehavior has also brought down right-wing publisher Conrad Black, neoconservative strategist and former Bush advisor Richard Perle and the entire corporate board of Hollinger Inc., the Republican-friendly media conglomerate formerly controlled by Lord Black - and that he and others are plausibly accused of illicitly looting for their own benefit. Furious shareholders forced Black to relinquish control of the company and are suing him, as well as Perle and former Black deputy David Radler, for $500 million. The SEC is also suing Black and Radler, and the Justice Department is investigating the former Hollinger directors.

        Last month, US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who also happens to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, accepted Radler's guilty plea to mail fraud and wire fraud. Radler is now believed to be cooperating in the prosecution of what former SEC chairman Richard Breeden, a Republican who investigated Hollinger on behalf of shareholders, termed a corporate kleptocracy.

        Kleptocratic morality evidently ruled at least two Republican statehouses in the Midwest as well. Currently under indictment are former Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, whose trial on bribery charges began last week, and Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio, who pleaded no contest last month to charges of accepting illegal gifts from a state contractor.

        That contractor is Thomas Noe, a coin dealer who received lucrative investment deals with the state's Workers Compensation Fund and is now at the center of a gigantic scandal known as Coingate. More than $12 million has disappeared from the fund, and former GOP official Noe stands accused of laundering money to various Republican politicians, including the Bush-Cheney campaign. Like Abramoff, Noe is a Bush Pioneer, responsible for raising at least $100,000 for the president last year.

        Still another Pioneer is currently under criminal investigation in a celebrated corruption case involving Randy Duke Cunningham, a prominent Republican representative from San Diego with a senior position on the House defense appropriations subcommittee. On Aug. 18, FBI and IRS agents raided the offices of defense contractor and Bush fundraiser Brent Wilkes.

        Wilkes is reportedly a former business associate of Mitchell J. Wade, the head of a defense contracting firm called MZM Inc. who is under investigation in San Diego for alleged bribery of Cunningham. According to newspaper reports, Wade purchased a home owned by Cunningham at a price inflated by at least $700,000, and also permitted the congressman to use his 42-foot yacht free of charge. Federal agents searched Wade's offices in July.

        Although prosecutors have brought no criminal charges in the case yet, they have filed civil court documents describing the home sale as a violation of federal bribery laws - and Cunningham, who has served in Congress for decades, has already announced that he will not seek another term next year.

        The Republican National Committee's new treasurer, Robert Kjellander, is under investigation too. (Naturally, he is also a Bush Pioneer.) Not long after he assumed his new post at the party's Washington headquarters, Kjellander received a federal subpoena for records of his dealings with the Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, a state pension fund, and the Carlyle Group. Federal prosecutors are reportedly looking into alleged corruption at the fund, and have asked Kjellander to provide information about a $4.5 million fee he received from Carlyle for his role in arranging investments by the fund with the huge private equity fund. Carlyle, of course, is closely connected to the Bush administration, including the president's father, George H.W. Bush, who has worked for the firm as a rainmaker and advisor.

        In fairness, it should be said that all these pols and parasites may be innocent (except for those already convicted), or at least not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is also true that voters have historically been slow to evict politicians from office because of corruption charges.

        But public opinion of congressional Republicans is hitting new lows, and Americans are growing furious about the war in Iraq, the government response to Hurricane Katrina and rising energy prices. The natural impulse to throw the rascals out can only be encouraged by the Gilded Age spectacles now unfolding in Washington and in cities across the country as the indictments continue to come down between now and November 2006.




        Joe Conason writes a weekly column for Salon and the New York Observer.
    I wonder what an unborn
    baby does to make people dislike them? Oh yeah, they are an inconvenience. I guess that's reason enough. Babies are killed in facilities which represent healing, curing, life-giving such as hospitals and clinics. How much more terrible is that?
    Report: 50% rise in violent hate groups

    Southern Poverty Law Center: 50% rise in violent hate groups






    David Edwards and Muriel Kane
    Published: Wednesday April 15, 2009



    A new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which tracks the activities of violent hate groups in the United States, has found an alarming rise in the number of such groups, from 602 in 2000 to 926 in 2008.

    This comes on the heels of a controversial report on "violent extremism" from the Department of Homeland Security, which has outraged many conservatives by seeming to lump them in with extremists.

    Morris Dees, the founder of the SPLC, told CBS's Harry Smith on Wednesday that he believes the two reports do "synch up pretty much" and that "the report from the Department of Homeland Security should be taken very seriously."

    However, the SPLC's own report focuses very narrowly on groups which actively preach violence, including neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and the "racist skinhead subculture." It also notes the surprising rise of "anti-Semitic black separatists calling for death to Jews on bustling street corners in several East Coast cities."

    "A key 2008 hate group trend was the increasing militancy of the extremist fringe of the Hebrew Israelite movement," the report states, "whose adherents believe that Jews are creatures of the devil and that whites deserve death or slavery. These radical black supremacists have no love for Barack Obama, calling him a 'house nigger' and a puppet of Israel. They preach to inner-city blacks that evil Jews are solely responsible for the recession."

    Dees told Smith, "The political climate, the election of Obama, the immigration issues ... and now, especially, the economy is almost causing a resurgence of what we saw in the days of Timothy McVeigh, almost a militia movement that's being reborn. ... I think that an American person is much more likely to be harmed by a domestic terrorist extremist group than by one from abroad."

    Dees also emphasized that many extremist groups are recruiting Iraq veterans and even active-duty members of the military because of their expertise with arms and explosives. "It's a serious issue," he stated, "especially with a lot of these guys coming back with post-traumatic stress syndrome, coming back to a failing economy, the inability to buy a home and get a job and get credit."


    This video is from CBS's The Early Show, broadcast Apr. 15, 2009.


    Video at:  http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_50_rise_0415.html





    Yeah, 'cause this sounds pretty violent to me
    The Quran says, "Surely those who have faith (in Islam) and the Jews and the Christians and the Sabaeans - whoever believes in God and the Last Day - their reward is with their Lord and they will neither fear nor grieve" (Quran 2:62 and 5:69).
    The state and local levels are the criminals here
    I'm sick and tired of Bush getting all the blame. The local and state governments diverted pre-Katrina funds to shore up levees and to solidify effective hurricane evacuation to their pet projects. Ray Nagin let thousands of school buses sit in the New Orleans public school bus yard because he could not authorize their use. How, many phone calls would it have taken for him to get to the right person who could authorize it??? Probably less than two. He's one of the most inept and corrupt people in N.O. and yet the lemmings of N.O. voted him back in, because he could whine about the Fed. He didn't give a rip until his city was dessiminated then he did the usual nanny state liberal thing and that was to blame someone else. Don't even get me started on Ms. Air-head governor. She is a complete joke.

    The federal government may beeen slow, but the state and local governments were beyond negligent. They are criminals.
    What does crooks and criminals have to do with Cynthia McKinney? sm
    She is going exactly what I would want her to do - HER JOB! 50% of Americans have asked for this. She is fully aware of the attacks from the media, etc. that lie ahead. See quote below:

    From her inquiries into election fraud in 2000 to her calls for a transparent and thorough investigation into 9/11, not to mention the widely covered run-in she had with the Capitol Hill Police, the congresswoman is aware that this resolution will likely be ignored and that she will be ruthlessly attacked upon its filing.

    What do you think they are going to do to me this time? she asks her staff. Everyone uncomfortably shifts in their seats, and after no answer comes, McKinney explains: We have to do this because this is simply the right thing to do. The American people do want to hold this man and his office accountable for the crimes they have committed, and if no member of Congress is willing to do it, than I will.


    disgusting, lying murdering war criminals are at it again.
    "We're so sorry about those civilians."  Killers of women, children and elders.  Occupation, starvation and now massacre in one of the world's most densely populated areas.  US and Israel are the only countries on the planet who think this disproportionate response is somehow justified. The most outrageous nation on the planet on the face of the earth, responsible for so much pain and suffering.  Outrageous.   Warped evil, brought to you by your tax dollars.  Their blood is on all our hands.   Flame away.  I don't care.  
    Bush and Cheney are criminals no cheerio about it sm
    Bush looked ashamed today at the inauguration. Cheney was in a wheelchair, laying low.

    Who knows...if we who believe that the unborn child...
    has as much right to life as you, your husband and your children (good thing for them you did not want an abortion I guess or they would not exist, we will continue to speak for them. And maybe, someday, the right person will hear, and we as a country can stop the slaughter of innocents to the tune of 1.2 million a year. While you are okay with that on the basis of your choice, we are not. And nothing you can say or do will ever change that either.
    unborn versus born
    I do not think they would choose their life over a child that was already born, but I do think many would choose (and do choose) their own life over an unborn child's life. And by life I don't necessarily mean a medical condition. If my daughter were a teenager (she is not quite there yet) and she was pregnant, and she chose abortion, her father and I would certainly support that choice versus her giving up a promising future to raise an unwanted child, especially at such a young age.

    I know others would not choose that, but many do everyday. Certainly, I think men and women should choose birth control, abstinence, etc., but birth control fails, mistakes happen, rape happens, incest happens, and I don't feel anyone should have to give birth if they don't want to or aren't prepared for the responsibility of parenting.

    Many women chose to give their babies up for adoption, and that is a wonderful choice for them. However, not the best choice for everyone. I want everyone to be able to have that choice.
    Unborn rights until birth...after that, off the radar
    nm
    Geez.....all that because I would like to stop the slaughter of the unborn....
    and there is not a bit of that in you pile-on, ranting, screaming, judgmental zealots with poisonous, nauseating, self-important dreck for beliefs (mostly your words, I substituted one). Yep, persecution complex seems to have attacked you all en masse. Only it is not the world, it is one little poster named sam who you think is against YOU. Not you, come out of persecution palace. It is the act of abortion I am against. Way to personalize there in persecution palace. This more describes you, the pile on and try to silence the pro-lifer group. Which is exactly what makes people reject YOUR beliefs and ideology.
    Obama killing EVERY unborn child now?
    Man I guess I missed that. Obama causes end to human race. We better get to work on that stem cell research and cloning and stuff or there will be no one around to complain.
    Repeat: Unborn rights from conception to birth. nm
    nm
    Okay to kill one but not the other?

    I heard her on Sean Hannity's radio show a few days ago. 


    Another real dandy is that Killer the Baby Killer in Kansas.


    This so-called pro-choice types are the same ones who tore into Joe Horn for killing an illegal thug who was threatening private property.  Diane Sawyer is only one of these utopian elites.


    Funny how the twisted logic of the left works.


    Who have they threatened to kill?

    I'm serious.  WHO?  I honestly don't know because I don't listen to them, either.  But if they have aired similar threats upon a group of people, then I believe they are equally wrong.


    If you are offended by my liberal beliefs being posted on the LIBERAL BOARD, then perhaps you would feel more comfortable on the Conservative Board.  Just a thought.


    He did kill his own people
    Hundreds of mass graves prove it.  Saddam's sons killed their own people for bloodsport.
    To Kill an American...sm
    Disclaimer: Not sure if this is a true story or not, but it is a great write.

    To Kill an American

    You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.


    So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)


    An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, Puertorican, South American, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.


    An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.


    An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
    In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan . The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


    An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


    An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
    The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


    An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


    When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


    As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan . Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


    The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America .


    Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.


    So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
    Thou shall not kill
    If we follow your logic, then we better not remove warts or cancer growths, either. They are both alive and growing.
    Regardless, this means we kill them all?
    It is their right to live the way they chose. We can't go attacking every one who is a possible threat on more levels than I'm going to go into here. I would rather see our leaders spend the time and money on securing things here rather than wage war there. We are just formulating more hatred. We CAN change whether we are the ones in the war by not going to war, and I shall not blindly trust our leaders to do the right thing because it has been proven time and again that they rarely do.
    Geez. You kill me....
    however, I do like the moniker "spiteful little vixen." I may get stationery printed.

    Good grief...you are the one exhibiting intolerance and hatred...yikes, someone must have spit in your post toasties this morning!!

    You have slipped off the deep end, my friend. I don't know what cliches you mean, but if you are talking about the prayer at the top that was sincere...try to get hold of this, although your monster ego may not allow you to...there are OTHER posters here who live in South Texas or have family there, perhaps some I don't even know about, that was posted out of genuine concern and although I think you are several bricks shy of a load, I don't want to see you blown off the face of the earth, and whether you can get off your high horse down here to where there is enough air for your brain to work properly, I don't want illegals blown off the face of the earth either. I just want them to obey the law, come here legally, pay taxes like the rest of us and live happily ever after. And for that you want me tarred and feathered. Go figure.

    And now that I have ascended to your level of sniping (thank you, I am learning much from you about verbal abuse), here's hoping I never do again...you have that area well covered.

    What happened to that sabbatical? Gotta have the last word...sister, you got it. LOL. Signed, the spiteful little vixen....LOL
    Better to kill it....?? sigh. nm
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    You got it, Sam.... and socialism will kill our
    nm
    Don't kill people in other
    countries where terrorists are plotting against use....but by all means let viable infants die if they are failed abortions because it would be detrimental to the mother's health for her child to survive after she tried to murder it. 
    Ah. Okay to kill a child rather than own up to ...
    responsibility. I see. Why not just force feed "the pill" from the time a girl reaches menarche. Better than killing the "mistakes" from "raging hormones" along the way. If you can't teach responsibility, and don't intend to make them responsible...put them on the pill.
    pay to kill people?
    what an awful thing to say about our men and women who are put in harm's way every day
    they are doing theiR JOB, you are saying we are paying them to kill??? no we are paying them to do their job... and that is what they are doing!

    you should be ashamed of that statement
    We don't kill an adult
    when they are found to have terminal cancer. Why then should we kill a baby who is terminal? No logic there whatsoever.
    Germany didn't kill
    The whole fricken country didn't kill jews - the leadership of that country did!!!!! Just like every Muslim is not a terrorist, every person who lives south of Maryland is not a red neck. I don't agree with prosecuting Rumsfeld for Murder, but let's keep the bigotry off the liberal board and take it back over to the conservative board where it is welcome.
    Relax. It is the law. You are free to kill at will...
    does not make it right.
    They support NRA so you can kill the guy who rapes you but
    xx stupid you are
    Obama's plan will KILL our economy. You think
    nm
    Palin says kill all polar bears
    and ship all MT jobs overseas
    No. Obama will kill jobs with his tax plan.
    nm
    We do not purposely kill, cut off heads, torture.
    nm
    Are you okay with police shooting a man who's about to kill his wife?
    I'm sure you are, unless you're really as nutz as I think you are.

    So...'Splain the difference to me, Lucy! The justification is precisely the same regarding a terrorist who's planning to kill thousands - except MORE SO.

    You pathetic boob.
    Why didn't Clinton kill bin Laden when he had the chance?

    19 Republicans vote in favor of amnesty for those who kill our soldiers.

    In the Senate today, 19 Senators voted that it was okay for the Iraqi government to give amnesty to anyone known to have attacked, killed or injured American soldiers, and every single one of them was a Republican.  I guess this is an example of how Republicans *support* the troops.  The only one that truly surprises me is McCain.  He must have lost his mind since he began pandering to those who believe they are Bush's *base.*


    Vote Summary:
    Question: On the Amendment (Nelson (FL) Amdt. No. 4265 )
    Vote Number: 178 Vote Date: June 20, 2006, 03:27 PM
    Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
    Amendment Number:S.Amdt. 4265 to S. 2766 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 )
    Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of Congress that the Government of Iraq should not grant amnesty to persons known to have attacked, killed, or wounded members of the Armed Forces of the United States.
    Vote Counts
    : YEAs 79
    NAYs: 19
    Not Voting: 2


    Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
    Grouped By Vote Position


    NAYs ---19
    Allard (R-CO)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burns (R-MT)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Hagel (R-NE)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Lott (R-MS)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Stevens (R-AK)
    Thomas (R-WY)
    Warner (R-VA)


    Not Voting--- 2
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Shelby (R-AL)


    YEAs ---79
    Akaka (D-HI)
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Allen (R-VA)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Biden (D-DE)
    Bingaman (D-NM)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Byrd (D-WV)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Chafee (R-RI)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Coleman (R-MN)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Conrad (D-ND)
    Craig (R-ID)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    Dayton (D-MN)
    DeWine (R-OH)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Dole (R-NC)
    Domenici (R-NM)
    Dorgan (D-ND)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Frist (R-TN)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Jeffords (I-VT)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kennedy (D-MA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Lieberman (D-CT)
    Lincoln (D-AR)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Martinez (R-FL)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Murray (D-WA)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Obama (D-IL)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Roberts (R-KS)
    Salazar (D-CO)
    Santorum (R-PA)
    Sarbanes (D-MD)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Smith (R-OR)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Specter (R-PA)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Sununu (R-NH)
    Talent (R-MO)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Wyden (D-OR)


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/06/20/19-gop-senators-vote-agai_n_23445.html


    What? Like those classless Americans who spouted KILL HIM towards O at GOP events pre election? nm
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    I will not stop trying to stop the slaughter of the unborn in this country...
    I never said you were a stupid wretch. What I said was, if you can watch that video below and not feel something, your heart must be seared over. If you can watch that video and advocate what you advocate, yes, I'm sorry, I find that cold. I am entitled to my opinion and all your ranting and name calling and belitting is not going to change that. Someone needs to speak for the child. You certainly aren't allowing it any rights, including the right to live. You are okay with that, I'm not.
    Afghanistan - war on Al Quaeda and Taliban; Iraqi FREEDOM - kill Saddam Hussein
    Two different wars based on entirely different premises.........