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Gore lies AGAIN!!

Posted By: Big surprise, eh? on 2009-05-16
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Gore criticizes Cheney for answering the scurrilous crap that the Democrats have been piling on Bush, saying "I waited two years before criticizing Bush".


Umm...not quite, Internet Breath.  Here's the link to the speech he made in ༾ trashing Bush, Cheney and the cabinet - calling them "un-American".  (Bush took office in ༽.)


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/05/15/flashback_gore_calls_bush_policies_un-american_in_2002_speech.html


 


 




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By the way, technically Gore did win . . .

in 2000.  He was cheated out of that election by . . . oh let's see . . . by the crooked business that went down in Florida which happened to have Bush's brother as governor.  Maybe you were sleeping when all that went down and came out as fact!  And another thing, 98% of the hate spewing on this board has been by the McCain/Palin fans, but I guess they learned how to be that way from those hate mongerers that they support!!  No hatred here . . . just calls 'em as I sees 'em.


Gore lying

I am not an AL Gore fan but I am wondering what indicates he lied?


He lost the election of 2000 and  was critical in 2002. Please (and I do mean this politely) what I am missing.


 


popular vote was Gore
Im trying to remember back from 2000..there was a university, I think maybe University of Chicago..which did a recount and Gore won.  If all the ballots had been counted and all the registered voters who were turned away were allowed to vote, based on the party they were registered under, Gore would have won.  I remember back in 2001, the outrage, so I contacted the university and was assured the public would be allowed a copy of the study on the recount.  Geez..seems like centuries ago..I will check back with my political friends and find out the university..Maybe they still are offering their results on the recount.In any case, however, to be fair, when there is a election in doubt, IMHO, you go with the popular vote, which was Gore.
Gore was a FAR better choice for America.
That's why we elected him. It took a crony-packed SCOTUS to act illegally to appoint Bush president even AFTER Repubs tried their best to suppress as many votes as possible to get him elected. It just wasn't good enough, so overwhelming was the vote for Gore.

So, looks like you're in the minority opinion box again. Must be hard having that happen time after time.
sorry, I meant Gore, not Kerry....(nm)
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Gee, he was fine with you when he supported Gore
Reminds me of the line from the movie Dune....

"The sleeper has awoken".
Everybody KNOWS Al Gore won the popular vote
It is awfully coincidental that the state that had the problems counting their votes, which ultimately cost AL Gore the election, was what? Oh thats's right it was....FLORIDA - George Bush's brother's state. You do remember Jeb was governor of Florida during that time, don't you?
Gore is laughable and pathetic anyway.
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Al Gore and his "green" attitude
is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen.  That fat man preaches to everyone about global warming and then jumps on his private jets and flies off.  The kicker is that he is getting rich off of this scam too. 
Oh, I know. Al Gore is the biggest phony
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Another look at the 2000 Bush v. Gore debate.

I wonder if Bush would still have won if voters knew the extent to which he blatantly lied during this debate. To find the TRUTH, all someone has to do is take just about EVERYTHING Bush said, REVERSE IT (with the possible exception of the comment: "I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place." I didn't understand it in 2000 and still don't know what it means. And why did he only focus on "our friends in the Middle East?") I know this isn’t new news, but I found it interesting to take a second look at this. Hindsight being 20/20, I'm amazed at how good Gore is suddenly starting to look!


From www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html


MODERATOR: New question. How would you go about as president deciding when it was in the national interest to use U.S. force, generally?


BUSH: Well, if it's in our vital national interest, and that means whether our territory is threatened or people could be harmed, whether or not the alliances are -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force. Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear. Whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win. Whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy. I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place. So I would take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power. Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places. And therefore I want to rebuild the military power. It starts with a billion dollar pay raise for the men and women who wear the uniform. A billion dollars more than the president recently signed into law. It's to make sure our troops are well-housed and well-equipped. Bonus plans to keep some of our high-skilled folks in the services and a commander in chief that sets the mission to fight and win war and prevent war from happening in the first place.


MODERATOR: Vice President Gore, one minute.


GORE: I want to make it clear, our military is the strongest, best-trained, best-equipped, best-led fighting force in the world and in the history of the world. Nobody should have any doubt about that, least of all our adversaries or potential adversaries. If you entrust me with the presidency, I will do whatever is necessary in order to make sure our forces stay the strongest in the world. In fact, in my ten-year budget proposal I've set aside more than twice as much for this purpose as Governor Bush has in his proposal. Now, I think we should be reluctant to get involved in someplace in a foreign country. But if our national security is at stake, if we have allies, if we've tried every other course, if we're sure military action will succeed, and if the costs are proportionate to the benefits, we should get involved. Now, just because we don't want to get involved everywhere doesn't mean we should back off anywhere it comes up. I disagree with the proposal that maybe only when oil supplies are at stake that our national security is at risk. I think that there are situations like in Bosnia or Kosovo where there's a genocide, where our national security is at stake there.


BUSH: I agree our military is the strongest in the world today, that's not the question. The question is will it be the strongest in the years to come? Everywhere I go on the campaign trail I see moms and dads whose son or daughter may wear the uniform and they tell me about how discouraged their son or daughter may be. A recent poll was taken among 1,000 enlisted personnel, as well as officers, over half of whom will leave the service when their time of enlistment is up. The captains are leaving the service. There is a problem. And it's going to require a new commander in chief to rebuild the military power. I was honored to be flanked by Colin Powell and General Norman Schwartzkopf recently stood by me side and agreed with me. If we don't have a clear vision of the military, if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world and nation building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road, and I'm going to prevent that. I'm going to rebuild our military power. It's one of the major priorities of my administration.


i can remember relatives saying if gore won, he would be antichrist
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Tennessee Votes for Gore Statue.
I'd give my kingdom to be a pigeon for just one day.
Global warming and the swiftboaring of Al Gore: A timeline
http://scienceblogs.com/drcharles/2006/08/a_timeline_tracing_the_origins.php
Gore's "science" on global warming is flawed....
all one has to do is research the topic. On that basis alone he should not gave gotten the prize, and that has nothing to do with brain washing political propaganda. The fact that so many just buy his theory without looking at both sides is what smacks of political brain washing. No one asked anyone to defend the choice and we are all entitled to our opinions. This is a liberal gimme and has been for years...there was a time when it was a vaulted honor. I don't think many consider it as such anymore...and choosing Gore will not help that downward spiral I'm afraid. And, to be brutally honest...your description "esteemed leader...." and AL Ifoundedtheinternet Gore are diametrically in opposition. Again...in my opinion...to which I am entitled...check the liberal talking points...you are the live and let live people. Right...? Or do you want to just announce that it is liberals live and let liberals live?
Even Al Gore thinks caps and trade is a bad idea!!!
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I think Gore has turned off enough people recently that most Dems don't even support him.
Thank God he was not elected. 
Gore gave a superb speech today, very inspiring...
...though anyone addicted to Fox wouldn't know it. He really nailed the problem right on the old square head - best speech that's been given in years now. Naturally, the networks are too frightened to utter more than a peep about it, but maybe C-span is re-running it, if you get the chance check it out.

I'd almost forgotten how refreshing it is to see a politician really speak to an unrehearsed crowd without reading from a teleprompter or uttering gotta protect 'mericans and they hate us for our freedom and 9/11 every other line. Nice to know someone sees what's going on and is actually concerned about protecting rule by Constitutional provisions for a change.
Are more lies you want to tell?

Remember this from back in June???  There were several more after this one, also, requesting libs stick to libs board and cons stick to cons board.  What part don't you understand? 


You surely are an idiot and you lie.  Stay off the board and slink back to your pack of liars. 


How about we suggest a no-lying board.  Oh yes, there is one already.  It's called the liberal board.


 


 


 


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What lies? NM

Why do you come on here and tell lies?

I've never seen gt post on the CON board, have you?


The only folks on the CON board who were noted to be acting like kids/teenagers were the CONS. 


Truth is welcomed here.  Please take any untruths back to the CON board or better yet, keep them yourself.  It's only fair and right, correct?


Again with the lies....
Their VP nominee is on record saying their Pres nominee is not qualified for the job...now says he is. So he lied too...much bigger lie it would appear. Also said he would be proud to be on a ticket with John McCain. That has also changed. Pick a lie.
GWs top 10 lies

10. “I have been very candid about my past.”


9. “I’m a uniter not a divider.”


8. “My plan unlocks the door to the middle class of millions of hard-working Americans.”


7. “This allows us to explore the promise and potential of stem cell research.”


6. “We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th.”


5. “[We are] taking every possible step to protect our country from danger.”


4. “I first got to know Ken [Lay in 1994].”


3. “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” And, “[Saddam Hussein is] a threat because he is dealing with AL Qaeda.”


2. “We found the weapons of mass destruction.”


1. “It’s time to restore honor and dignity to the White House.”


Lies...

This is a great post.  I agree with gourdpainter.  A lot of people ask me why I am not voting for McCain and I tell them because he lies.  People always say to me that all politicians lie.  I then inform them that Obama is different than most politicians and he isn't a liar.  They laugh but when I ask them to name something he has lied about, they can't think of anything.  Remember in the debate when McCain said Obama was seeking a $3 million earmark for an overhead projector?  That wasn't just any overhead projector - it was for the Adler Planetarium.  Imagine all the education children receive from that planetarium too.  It amazes me when some of you try to make Obama out to be so sinister.


lies, lies, lies.

Do you believe evrything they put in your mouth?


 


And, once again, where? Lies. nm
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Lies, all lies, nothing but lies...

...and have you noticed how she's parsing her words ala Bill Clinton?  Depends on the meanings of 'used,' 'would be used,' 'may be used,' 'has not been used' are. 


Typical politician prevarication.  They never expect to be caught and when they are they backpedal to beat the band.  Does she really think we're stupid enough to believe she was briefed on waterboarding as an example of a practice we would not be using?  Would she like us to believe she was so stupid she did not understand the importance of what she was shown?  Either way, not a ringing endorsement of Ms. Pelosi.  God knows the power mad creature has made few friends in either party over the years.  Wonder of her party will use this as a way to disgrace her and get the reins out of her hands.  Can't wait to see how this plays out. 


LOL, who lies, not democrats
That is what dems say?  LOL.  I ask you to check out one of the top posts, i.e., Rush and Olbermann..Reality check starts attacking the poster, Olbermann, MSNBC, saying they lie, even though the transcript is on the web, also printed in his article, and on video..yet they are lying right?? and its the dems that always scream that people are lying, right? I thought up a new name for neocons after reading about that Xtian..NOT..Robertson stating Chavez should be eliminated.  Neocons are the American Taliban.  You are just as bad.  If everyone does not think, act, believe, live like you, then they are wrong and lying..You guys are ridiculous..
Clinton's Lies
Clinton made his worst mistake by not taking Osama bin Laden when he was offered to him on a silver platter by the Sudan. In case you have forgotten, he was major planner and money man of 9-11. Had Bill not been afraid of the political fallout...he might have been able to stop 9-11. And when it all comes out about Able Danger...he is finished and so, hopefully, is his wife, as far as politics are concerned. And the surplus you drone on about was a PROJECTED surplus, if spending was frozen for the next 10 years. Like THAT was going to happen. Sheesh.
Yes, PK, too many lies too many times

More Republican lies...

but this one is actually funny!


http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html


Yes, the fault lies with me.

I was able to get the link to work.  You were not.  So something is wrong with me. 


So typical.


Ah but therein the difference lies

What a huge difference it is!


That between OBSESSION and normal ordinary use.  Tee-hee!!!!


Myths and Lies

McCain created the DoNotCall list:



  • Lie 8/17/08: "2003 – McCain led in creating the FTC’s ‘Do-Not-Call’ telemarketing registry"
  • Truth: FTC Chairman Tim Muris announced in October 2001 that the FTC was going to create the Do Not Call list

McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act:



  • Lie 8/17/08: "2003 - McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act to regulate the sending of unsolicited commercial e-mail (”spam”) 
  • Truth: According to the Library of Congress, three Republicans and four Democratic senators introduced the CAN-SPAM bill in 2003. John McCain was not one of them.

Obama would increase capital gains taxes on 100 million Americans



  • Lie 4/20/08: "Senator Obama says that he doesn’t want to raise taxes on anybody over — making over $200,000 a year, yet he wants to nearly double the capital gains tax. Nearly double it, which 100 million Americans have investments in — mutual funds, 401(k)s — policemen, firemen, nurses. He wants to increase their taxes."
  • Truth: "Investments contained in 401-K's (Or in the case of 'policemen, firemen' usually a 403-B), pensions, IRAs, tax deferred variable annuities, and similar retirement vehicles aren't subject to capital gains tax -- they're not taxed at all. Changing the capital gains tax rate will have zero effect on them. Withdrawals from tax deferred accounts by retirees are generally taxed at whatever the income tax rate is for that person at the time of withdrawal (Which, incidentally, is usually a heck of a lot more than the current long term capital gains tax rate, yet another way to rip off the middle class)." 

McCain's lies in sex ed ad

By LARRY ROHTER

updated 9:52 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept. 10, 2008


DAYTON, Ohio - Escalating its efforts to portray Senator Barack Obama as a candidate whose values fall outside the mainstream, the campaign of Senator John McCain on Tuesday unveiled a new television advertisement claiming that Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, favors “comprehensive sex education” for kindergarten students.


“Learning about sex before learning to read?” the narrator asks in the 30-second advertisement, which the campaign says will be shown in battleground states and on national cable. The commercial also asserts that a sex-education bill introduced in Illinois, which Mr. Obama did not sponsor and which never became law, is his “one accomplishment” in the field of education.


Both sets of accusations, however, seriously distort the record.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26649779/


What you call lies

can be verified.  People who want to know the truth should do their own research and not just believe what some people on this board would like them to believe. 


 


Obama lies...
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

At least this site attempts to back up why the lies are lies...and not just a laundry list of "likes" that are one man's opinion with no backup whatsoever.
There in lies the problem
The debates and the media are rigged so that no one outside the Democrat and Republican parties are allowed to seriously campaign.
Too much hatred and lies here

I come (used to come) to this board to hear about the candidates.  Instead all I'm reading lately is posters attacking others for posting their viewpoints.  Someone posts something about Obama and the O supporters attack them "lies" they call them.  They don't defend Obama but instead insult and attack the poster.  Then they come out and say "oh poor me, you just hate Obama, your so insulting" while at the same time calling them every name in the book.  What I'm hearing is the republicans are trying to shed some light on what Obama is but some of the democrats don't want to hear it and already exclaim that Obama has won.  They are condescending towards anyone who has a different viewpoint than theirs.  They won't read anything that has negative things to say about Obama and they won't read anything that has anything positive to say about McCain.  It's just hate-filled spew that comes out.  You'll cite polls if they favor Obama, and if they favor McCain you ignore them.  You won't even admit that the race is too close to call.  In your minds Obama has already won the election.  You'll support cheating if it favors Obama and condemn it if it favors McCain.  You'd rather live your lives having government regulate your lives, tell you what you can and cannot do, and take all your money to give a check to the people who are able to work but won't because why should they since they are receiving a check from government, while you are being told its your patriotic duty to give to these poor fellow Americans.  You'd rather have an inexperienced radical person running the country than someone who has experience and has shown by his voting record that he fights for the American people.  Yet not giving any reason (being older is not a reason).  I have not yet read any posts that are positive reasons for Obama being president, just hate-filled garbage against Palin.  Also makes me wonder why people are trying to keep Biden out of the spotlight.  Makes me want to find out more about what he's done in the past.


So I have decided to give the board a rest for awhile and will be back to vist after the election is over.  I'm no longer getting any valuable information here.  We have not had an election yet.  The polls are too close to call and even then you can't rely on the polls to give you accurate information (after all these polls are incuding all the dead people, pets, Santa Claus, Mary Poppins, Rama Dama Ding Dong, and all the other fictitious people, not to mention the people who registered 13 and 14 times or more as a democrat) in their polls.  I remember back in 2000 everyone was claiming Gore had won the election and it was very very close and look what happened.  He lost.


I will also continue to listen to all stations, and read all articles so I can at least get a fair and balance opinion of what is going on. 


So have at it y'all.  You seem to love attacking people for no reason and when I read these posts I can really feel the negativity and hatred oozing.  So maybe I'll just stick to the Gab board - I need some more positive vibes. 


P.S. - Just one more note.  Whoever wins will win, and whether it is democrat or republican we will deal with it.  When a democrat has won in the past there were no riots, republicans continued to try to work with the democrats, but we all know what happened the last two times a republican won.  As for the threats of "if Obama doesn't win there's going to be rioting in the streets".  Well if that does happen that goes to show you how many biggots wanted him in just because he's black - all the things they claim don't matter will come out.


I know, and there lies the problem
And when Jennifer Brunner was told that she needed to verify all the questionable forms (to date it is around 200,000), she files an appeal so that she doesn't have to. I dont' care what her party affiliation is - that's her job! Why is it no one in government can seem to get it through thier heads that they are supposed to do thier job? As an honest, working-class American, it really burns me that they think the can get away with just sitting back and doing nothing and then we're the ones that have to pay for it in the end.
Just one more of Obama's lies
I for the life of me cannot figure out why people believe him. He is not going to just tax 250K and above and I can believe anyone would be that gullible to believe him.

Our taxes are going to go up. There's no doubt about it. It's the only way they can generate income to feed all their programs.
Nothing new all lies. Be careful what YOU believe. nm
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Which lies are you referring to
Would you please be specific. I understand you are not defending either candidate, but you came on and pretty much said that whatever we wrote were lies, so I would like to know which "lies" are you referring to. I'm sure you're probably referring to the people who wrote about their concerns and posted articles that were against Obama.

I came on this board to read people's "opinions", why someone liked or disliked a candidate and for what reason. Also a lot of excellent links and articles were posted. Some written by lawyers, journalists, etc. People with degrees and who have been studying the economy, foreign affairs, laws, and presidential races for 20 years or more. Are those people lying? They've done their research, and for many of us we posted links to those sources for people to read themselves and make their own determinations as to whether they belive it or not.

What I saw constantly was if it went against Obama people said it was a lie. We posted articles and were told the source is not credible. Then when we posted some from CNN or MSNBC nothing was said. So people gave no reason as to why they were not credible except for the simple fact that it did not praise Obama. They chose to ignore the truth instead.

So as for people "making things up". It all depended on if you were for or against Obama. I never heard one Obama supporter question any of the stuff Obama was saying or doing or his shady background and questionable associations. But the McCain supporters did question him. We did say time and time again we weren't really happy with the republicans choice, but the other was worse.

P.S. - The stuff we post... we do back up with a credible source.

So please tell me which lies you are referring to so we can answer you with credible sources.
So Obama lies??
LOL
What lies are you referring to?
The ones coming out of the conspiracy theorists and witch hunts?
and how many has he murdered with his lies?
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Where my hope lies
Thankfully my hope and faith in change lies in a far greater, more powerful source... Jesus! 
And therein lies the problem...(nm)

Truth or lies?

Is Pelosi telling the truth or just trying to keep herself out of hot water? 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090514/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_torture


Exactly which part is bunk and lies?
Please provide information to support your statement, otherwise without verification we will have to assume that your statement consists of, well, a bunch of bunk and lies put forth by the masters of bunk and lies, the neocons.
Limberger lies and tries to hide it, LOL
Biggest bunch of bunk?  Limberger stated terrible things about Sheehan, ranting and raving.  Then when he is called on it, he has it disappear from his website and states he never said any of it.  Yet, the proof is in the pudding.  Limberger is a liar, as are quite a few of the prominent radical right wing neocons, including the warmonger chickenhawk in the WH.  The proof is there, the words were spoken by the druggie.  So there is no reason to get all huffy and puffy, you have nothing to defend.  Thank goodness for the written word and videos.  Limberger..phew, he stinks.