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Got a call early this morning, was

Posted By: heartsick on 2006-10-08
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not truly awake when I answered the phone, and my stepson stationed in Japan gave me the dreadful news, news I NEVER wanted to hear...he is going to Iraq.  My husband was not here when I received this horrifying news, he was working the midnight shift.  My stepson said not to tell his dad, that he would tell him.  So here I am, with husband now sleeping, and he still does not know that his son is nearing the time of deployment to this God-awful, senseless, maniacal, perverted, ill-fated, unjustifiable war in Iraq where innocent Iraqis by one hundred thousand and American by the thousands are dying because WHY???? Someone please give me an unabashed truthful, reasonable answer as to WHY we are even there?!  You must know that when the Bush admin even started talking about invading Iraq, I was 100 percent against it. I knew our presence there would only enrage, create a hornet's nest of more terrorists and fanatics, and lead to devastation for WHAT!?  To get rid of Saddam, to get the oil, to enrich Halliburton?!  None are good enough reasons to kill people.  This murdering bunch of thugs who are *elitists* sitting on their money, getting richer on the lives and deaths of our American troops....It's all too much for me.  As I said, I have been against this war before troops were even deployed, and my son has to go....very very sad day for us.  I pray for all those have gone before my son, and pray to the dear Lord that this will all end soon.  God forgive this prez for all the killing and misery he has caused for nothing, NO THING!


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Wow. They let the loons out early this morning.
Either way, it is doubtful he is racist against his other half.
I found the comments on Morning Joe this morning

about Palin rather disgusting.  A bunch of overweight old men talking about how hot she is, the feelings (implying those sexual type of feelings) they get when 'near' her in person - Pat Bucanan (spelling?) jokes to stay away from his girlfriend.  It was like watching men talk about Playboy centerfolds.


Where are all the women who normally attack that type of behavior?  This woman has a husband, children.  The fact I would never vote for her does not stop me from being completely nauseated at how they disrespected her. 


Should this type of talk be accepted regarding a presidential candidate at all, period? 


Is she beautiful, yes. Is she funny, yes.  Is she a hunter who kills animals, yes.  I appreciate all of those things, but someone who cannot get men to respect her...that would be worrisome in a serious job or say, running an entire country, we are told is in crisis.  Not so sure I understand what is so 'gosh-darn' funny about it.


I think it's too early to tell
He's only been in a couple weeks. Too early to tell. We hear stories here and there, but he needs more time. I voted for him, but I do not have a lot of confidence in him. I always remind myself that he is not the one making decisions, he just does what he is told to do. I don't think he's gotten a good start though.

I think Obama has the same "mesmerizing" type of quality that Bill Clinton did when he would give speeches. Someone who was invited to the white house once when Bill Clinton was president said that Mr. Clinton had the ability to mesmerize his audiences almost like in a hypnotizing or trance-like state. He said that he looked around the room at the people listening to the President and they were in a sort of trance. Mr. Clinton had a way of lying to the people but they didn't care and they smiles and said Thank god Mr. Clinton is our president. When asked about the lies he told, they answered with "so what, I don't care." That is the same road I'm seeing Mr. Obama take. He's able to hypnotize his audiences to a point that he lies to them and they don't care. They still will smile and say it's okay.

As for losing or gaining support I think it all depends on whether you support him or not. If you voted for him and are a die-hard Obama fan you will say he's gaining support and everyone else is just picking on him. But if you don't support Obama you will say he's losing support.

I don't think he's had a very good start to the office - just the stuff he's done like who he is picking for his cabinet, the stimulus bill he came out and approved and basically threatened congress and put out the fear that if they don't vote for it we will head into depression, etc, etc., but I do believe we really need to give the guy some more time. Maybe in 6 months lets come back and see how he's done over the first 6 months.
He was born too early ...
If you read through the articles, you'll see that he was actually born before the law went into effect stating that people born in the Panama Canal zone were natural born citizens. Thus, he is not.

I'm sure the RNC felt that it was just a technicality that would never be called out.

I fear if this Obama stuff continues, it will be. And we'll be left with no candidates to vote for.
Too early to ask this. Palin has not said SHE is
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This was in the late 70s early 80s
As far as I know, none of my friends slept with these students. One of the guys used to come up to our hometown and spend the night and never ever acted like he was interested in "conquering" my friend or I. We were all just friends. maybe the times were different?
Poll: Early in the game but.sm

Who will get the Democratic nomination, and who will that person pick for a running mate?


Who will get the Republican nomination, and who will that person pick as a running mate?


Winner gets a 22K gold-plated crystal ball, and the top position on Wall Street..!!!l


Too early to tell, but this looks like a good start! =)
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The paragraph about early retirement

That's where DH is. Forced to retire because of no work (road construction). The stimulus money went to 2 cities in my state. The rest of the state got nothing towards road construction or very little.


We didn't get last year's stimulus check because we owed taxes and they put the money towards that. Now he's getting screwed out of the $250 because he wasn't retired when this happened. Never fails.


Remember that cartoon of the guy always under the grey cloud? That's us.


Plan was made in early 1990's
The top neocons, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle were mulling invading the Middle East back in the early 1990's.  In the minutes of their meetings, they state they have to find a reason to invade, that Americans would not allow a war without a reason.  They got their reason with 9/11 and twisted the truth, lying and trying to convince the people, as they are still doing, that 9/11 and Iraq and Saddam are somehow connected.  These plans were set over 10 years ago.  It was and is for control of the Middle East and it's oil.  Funny thing happened, though, on the way to a war where the Iraqi's would meet our soldiers in the street with flowers, the Iraqi's didnt and the terrorists started multiplying and meeting our soldiers in the streets with bombs and guns..and with this war, what do we have to show for it?  An Iraqi constitution?  Oh please, based on Islamic law, not democracy.  Less rights for women than they had under Saddam.  Less rights for minorities.  An ancient country ravaged and destroyed by Bush's war.  People too afraid to venture outside, electricity, if you are lucky for an hour a few times a week, dirty water which they bathe in, drink, clean clothing and dishes in, tens of thousands dead, tens of thousands more maimed, no doubt psychological trauma for the Iraqi children for the rest of their lives..oil pipe lines being blown up..and that was supposed to pay for this war..All of this..FOR WHAT?  What the heck was this all for..Bush ought to be tried as a criminal..and he just might be in the future.
He peaked too early and is now unraveling. His downfall..

was not picking Hilliary and now I'm sure he regrets it.


Early "sex education" is not what some people are...sm
making it out to be.  It is actually teaching children of all ages, as early as kindergarten, to learn what is and is not acceptable behavior of adults toward them, that they should not hesitate to say no, yell, run away and tell, when anyone is inappropriate, especially in a sexual way, or makes them feel uncomfortable.  That is all.  Elizabeth Smart's father Ed Smart advocates the same thing.  Many, many children are traumatized every year because they are afraid to speak out when something like that happens.  I was one of them many years ago.  You might say that that is the parents' job.  I agree.  My mother did not warn me and I wish she had to say the least.  This criticism of Barak Obama is totally unwarranted, mostly made by republicans who jump the gun and do not get all the facts first. Shame on you!
She;s right, it is serious. There was one student from England who voted early...sm
in Ohio. I would definitely call that voter fraud, wouldn't you?

Heaven knows what they'll find out when they finally get down to it.


Acorn is really messing things up for everybody, both parties included. No matter who takes Ohio, obviously, there's going to be fraud going on. Not to mention all the other states with the same problem.



And before you go off on the fact that the link is from FoxNews below....try to remember the facts, that none of the other networks will cover this....because they're all in the tank for Obama.




http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-16-2008/0004905682&EDATE=
Brunner (dem)started this whole problem with early
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Early voting down here in the Lone Star and already
trying to mislead democratic voters.  Hmmmm.
Hello. Early polls ARE the first phase of the election.
These are Americans. They were alive when they voted. A vote is a vote is a vote is a vote. They evidently took their citizenship very seriously. They should be afforded at least the respect to be taken seriously and be counted along with the rest of us. You, on the other hand...would you say this about your own mother or daughter? What is wrong with you?
Early studies show that regular smokers of pot, (don't know...sm
how regular regular is), seem to have less incidence of Alzheimer disease. If true, an interesting tidbit I thought.
Media in the tank for O,early voting in Ohio
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You're a tad early in your post. It's still 17 days today..
ho hum....boring....
May see an erosion of Dem support as early as 2010 election cycle.
Rasmussen is already showing some evidence of this as a generic Republican is beating a generic Democrat now by 2 points, rather than losing by 6 points as his poll showed a few weeks ago.

The best evidence of this in 2010 will not necessarily be Republican victories, although it might happen. The evidence will be that Democrats in "stronghold" districts will have to fight for their lives to get reelected and will have much smaller margins than they're used to. Others might have opposition from their own party and have to deal with a primary fight they're not used to.

I'm rather glad that the media and the Democrats have treated the tea-party phenomenon with such scorn and contempt. I'd rather that they continue to underestimate the opposition to what they're doing, and overestimate their own popularity. They will discover that the support of the American voter has never been something you can take for granted.

The Democrats are now in the process of doing just what the Republicans did in allowing the extreme elements of the party to take over and, just as voters showed the Republicans the error of doing this, the voters will teach the Democrats the same lesson. Hence, the pendulum.
Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
nm
Then call it what it is...or call for conservation...
but don't make up a myth to try to gain control. That is what Gore is after...what all the global warming hoohah is after. They have an agenda...pure and simple. And the base fact is that a very low percentage of the greenhouse gas effect is from cars. Every time you breathe out, you contribute. Are we all going to stop breathing? Are cows going to stop belching? I have no problem with ethanol...I have used it. My husband is from Iowa...I would love it if we started using ethanol more extensively. But in previous years, Democrats (Hillary being a primary one) opposed the use of ethanol. I guess if I believed any of those people out there hawking global warming actually believed what they were saying it would be different...but I don't. The science is not there. As I said...if the real interest is conservation with the side benefit of less CO2...fine. Just say so. But as the article pointed out...if it is as bad as they say it is, you can't stop it anyway. It just does not make good sense to me.
Fine. Call if whatever you want to call it....
I will call it as I see it. I look at a totality of things. He has embraced black liberation theology which is racist and has Marxist tones for 20 years. There is no way the man went to that church for 20 years and did not know their doctrine. But, if you choose to believe that, again, fine. I do not. I believe he knows that theology backward and forward and believes it to his core. You don't have to. That is the wonderful thing about America. We can agree or disagree. On this we disagree.

Yes, I am feeling a pinch. But I don't think the government should take money from you and give it to me. I don't think they should take money from any private business and give it to me. If you think that is fair, fine. I don't. That is how socialism/Marxism takes hold. Historically it ends the same way. I don't want that for America. Perhaps you do...you want the pinch eased for you and if that means taking money from someone else that they earned, and giving it to you, who did not earn it, to you it is all good. To me it isn't.

He never has said who the $1000 checks are going to. I am thinking not every person in the whole US of A...so not only does he get to choose who he takes the money from, he gets to choose who to give it to. That would be another interesting piece of the puzzle. If he confirms to the Marxist view, it would be issuing checks to the "poor." And he gets to define who that is. You may be okay with that...me, not so much.

And by the way...have you ever researched an oil company profit margin? It is not as huge as Obama would like you to believe. But, again, he is counting on no one researching what he says. They hear free money and that's all they want to hear. Also, do you think oil companies don't employ people? You think it is one CEO at a desk in an office raking in billions? You don't think there are rank and file regular folks who work for oil companies? Whose jobs might be impacted by you and others wanting to take money away from their employers and doling it out to people who have not earned it? You think there is a chance they might have a problem with that?
I call, fax, and call again and I do campaign....
xx
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (That was about 18 hours ago, and I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
Sat. morning laugh
Anybody interested, watch the short animated video at:

http://www.batemania.com/bateman365/day009.html

It only takes a few seconds, it's really funny....until you think about it too long anyway.


My thoughts this morning

I don't know why I find certain posters/postings so darn disturbing.  I know in my heart they do NOT represent most right-wingers.  I have two very close friends who are right-wingers and quite a few acquaintances.  These folks in no way resemble the posters I refer to.  I also know they are pretty much a lunatic fringe.  I know I should just ignore them....but I can't sometimes, especially when I see postings that are so grievously factually erroneous (i.e., this country takes care of its poor - which I might add in many ways this country TRIES to help its poor but there is still much to be done).  I just think I could address these factual errors without becoming personally embroiled. 


The up side is that I learn so much from the research I have ended up doing as well reading some of the eloquent and inspiring posts I have seen on this board.  That by itself is worth a lot.


Yesterday I felt my blood pressure rise and felt sick to my stomach for a while.  But at sunset I took my three ill-behaved dogs-of-uncertain-heritage for a walkl in a snowy woods out here in the boonies where I live and my appreciation for the world that l am able live in came back to me....and I mean my own personal space, my mental place as well as geographic world. 


good morning

Get a cup of coffee or juice and enjoy....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54


 


I can't find it either....this morning....sm
I saw a .pdf file and when I clicked on it for the new bailout plan as worked out by the Senate, nothing came up on my screen. It was blanked out. Now it isn't there, so it may still be evolving, I dunno.

What I did hear on one of the money talk shows this morning , is that the bill is now up to something ridiculous like 450 pages long. I cringe if I try to wonder what all it does and does not contain.


However, one bright spot in this bill is that it sounds like they are going to get rid of the mark to market rule (dunno if it's going to be temporary or permanent). But from what I understand, that little thing alone, getting rid of the "mark to market" will free up money for all banks to want to begin the lending process again. This is a very, very good thing.

Oh, did you finally get out of bed this morning? nm
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I can only tell you what my feelings were this morning...sm
when I saw CP on Meet the Press. We already knew from the lead in that he was going to support one candidate or the other. I respect him so much that I was praying he would endorse Obama but had no real feeling of which way he would go. I listened to what he had to say and felt his pain that he was a republican through and through but just could not endorse McCain. He spoke of their friendship over many years and how much he respected him but could not abide the far right direction and the negative tone that the campaign had taken. He said he is an American first and thinks that Obama is better for America than McCain.
Morning backatcha, Dee
I'm on my way out the door campainging for the restoration of the local grist mill that dates back to the 1830s.  Maybe I was born 100+ years too late.  LOL
Well, I usually watch the morning

news shows local and national,then a few others after that, but they're all yaking about it. It just seems like the news doesn't have any news. Don't get me wrong. They do it with every little story. I counted 2 weeks at least on little Caylee, then nothing. I counted more than that on the 911 tragedy. After a few days of any news story, it gets really old.


How can the O be painting a room. Doesn't he have all kinds of celebrations/parties/speeches to make somewhere?  I thought the three days was going to be spent doing that before THE day.


And that's why I vented this morning.

Of course, I was awake for a couple hours, so I had my coffee and was wide awake when I heard that. LOL


I'm a little calmer now, except I'm now listening to C-Span and they are debating the SCHIP program, about increasing the program. I have to turn it off pretty soon. I can feel my BP going up again with some of the asinine remarks being made by certain members of the senate that don't want to wait to debate or discuss the amendments CAREFULLY. Some want full disclosure of the cost and amendments, others think it's not necessary. What jerks!


wow, nasty this morning,,,

in our area there are people struggling but not to the extent that seem to be here on this board every day. Certainly don't live in a glass house; have struggled before in the past and have figured out a way not to. We are in a fortunate situation at the moment and have taken steps to ensure that we will be okay financially should the rug be pulled out from under us; so be it if that is considered snooty. Bash away as is your style; it humors me.


Thanks for the reminder....went first thing this morning....
and you are right...every vote makes a difference, just like every "non" vote. Have a great day!
Here is an issue that I just read this morning. sm
McCain says he opposes using federal $$ for teen pregnancy prevention programs and Palin had said she opposes funding sex-ed programs in Alaska.

I'm not a conservative, but not a total liberal either as I don't believe in abortion - so, what do the conservatives think of this. Do you agree or disagree? Please don't start with the bashing each other, I am sincerely curious and am not trying to get a rise out of anyone.
I saw Biden in an interview this morning....
he got realll agitated when confronted about an issue they really did not want to break. Talking to a reporter and he almost got loud. They are not on the run, but they are definitely concerned. The debates will be verrryyyy interesting.

To Biden's credit, though, he was almost snarly to the press for sexism and attacking Palin's family. Much more forceful about it than Obama. Good for him!
The little experiment I conducted this morning...
proves my point.  The attack "machine" on this board will attack anyone who posts in opposition to them...whether I post as Indy Observer or as sam.  It makes no difference.  So changing the moniker means nothing.  It is not the individual poster; we are all lumped together as the "great evil."  lol.  Sigh.
Did someone miss their morning meds?...nm


This endorsement happened this morning....

She formally announced she is supporting McCain and will campaign for him.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/


I heard this morning it was over $850 billion...
with added stuff...one particular one I saw was for wool research and wooden children's arrows of all things. The Republicans did manage to get some tax cuts in there that will help to a point so that maybe not so much of the $700 billion will have to go out...because people will be encouraged to invest again. A drop in the bucket probably, but at least a try. Now it has to go back to the house and no telling what they will want to add. The bill went from what was posted on the internet (about 10 pages I think) to 450+. Sigh. THAT kind of experience we don't need anymore of. Bring on Sarah Palin. I wish we could replace every member of congress with common sense folks like Sarah Palin. THAT is change I can believe in. I am sick to DEATH of Washington Politics as usual.

As to Dodd and Frank...I hear that! Not willing to accept one iota of the blame when they should have all of it. And where is the mainstream media? Out to lunch? Can you imagine what will happen to this country if Obama is elected, with a Democrat majority and mainstream media cover? What is WRONG with people? Hellooo. Sigh.
should have watched good morning
actually biden may have answered questions and he didn't need palin to point out they were not factual.... good morning america sure did though.
I had a post removed this morning . . .
for whatever reason, I guess someone didn't like the fact that I posted about SP being brought up on investigation again for her crooked dealings!  Then I got an angry response from someone about not posting political viewpoints on this board!!  Why is this post allowed to stay, and mine was taken off?  I guess freedom of speech is only allowed for the one side!!
good morning, gourdpainter
another day, another pub.
Yeah, I read this morning
where he is being criticized by the left for not appointing cabinet members who are "liberal enough."  LOL  Just goes to prove you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people all the time.
Saw a lawyer on the tube this morning....
saying that Obama campaign does not have to write down names under $200, however, they ARE supposed to be tracking credit card numbers to stop people from making MULTIPLE $200 donations with the same credit card. Supposedly that was done, but no one was making sure there were not repeat donations on the same card. Or they knew it and ignored it. THAT Is why they want an investigation, because it is against campaign finance law for one individual to donate more than $200.

Obama kept the donation from Hamas until it became public and then he gave it back....lobbyists is one thing. Terrorists quite another.


Wow. Up here all morning and so far has drawn one big "DUH"
Maybe they're doing so research on how to trash Shakespeare.
Yep, me too :-) Just hope all is well when we wake up in the morning sm
no matter who wins!