Granny Accused of Looting Freed...see short article.sm
Posted By: Democrat on 2005-09-16
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KENNER, La. — A 73-year-old diabetic grandmother and church elder who fled Katrina's floodwaters for the safety of a hotel ended up in prison instead for more than two weeks — all over a bite of food.
Police in this New Orleans suburb arrested Merlene Maten (search) the day after the hurricane on charges she took $63.50 in goods from a looted deli. Though never before in trouble with the law, her bail was set at a stiff $50,000 and she was shipped away to a state penitentiary.
Family and eyewitnesses insist Maten's prison odyssey was unwarranted, claiming she only had gone to her car to get some sausage to eat when officers cuffed her in frustration, unable to catch younger looters at a nearby store.
Despite intervention from the nation's largest senior lobby, volunteer lawyers from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (search) and even a private attorney, the family fought a futile battle for 16 days to get her freed.
Then, hours after her plight was featured in an Associated Press story, a local judge on Thursday ordered Maten freed on her own recognizance, setting up a sweet reunion with her daughter, grandchildren and 80-year-old husband.
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Short article on some real legends and also a reply to ....
that endless droning on about supporting the troops.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0129-01.htm
http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/29/542577-the-hell-i-cant-supporting-the-troops-not-the-war
Looting
You watch O'Reilly so much you are spin-infected. I did not advocate looting. If you were there and your elders or kids were starving and dehydrating, would you not take some food for mere survival? Looting is taking expensive things that cannot benefit anyone there now, like TVs, jewelry, and guns.
post about looting..where?
I read these posts like a fine tooth comb, when Im taking a break from work, and I have read no where where anyone was condoning looting..no where..taking food, water, supplies to live are different and also the mayor and governor of New Orleans agreed they would not shoot people that were taking supplies to live, just people who were taking electronics, etc., not essentials to live and those who were raping and hurting others..
Captain Phillips is freed!!!!
Did you forget y'all were freed? Now act like it!
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oh granny
that's a REAL knee-slapper and so poignant at the same time . . .
I think you mean Granny...........sm
"Jed! Jethro! Ellie Mae! Supper's ready!!!! Roast possum and sweet taters and turnip greens and hot water bread. We got wild berry pie for dessert!" LOL
The Granny Bashers
The Granny Bashers: Different Facts, Same Policy
Monday 16 March 2009
by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Many seniors rely on dependably funded Medicare benefits to cover their health care costs. (Photo: Getty Images)
The granny basher crew constitutes one of the largest and most determined lobbies in Washington. The top priority for this lobby is to cut Social Security and Medicare.
The lobby includes the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, with an endowment of more than $1 billion from the private equity tycoon himself. It also includes The Washington Post, which liberally sprinkles assertions about the need to cut Social Security and Medicare in both its news and editorial pages. Many prominent members of Congress also belong to the club, along with much of the punditry who make their living pronouncing on public policy.
The granny bashers' theme is that Social Security and Medicare constitute an enormous generational injustice because the young, and those yet to be born, will be forced to pay for the cost of these programs for retirees and current workers. Of course, the reality is that the vast majority of the granny bashers' horror stories about generational inequity stems from the cost of sustaining a broken health care system not from programs for retirees.
If the United States fixed its health care system, then the granny bashers' horror story disappears. In fact, even if we don't fix the health care system, we can make most of the horror story disappear by just allowing seniors to buy into the health care systems of countries that have more efficient systems than the United States .
But the granny bashers are not interested in fixing the health care system; that would involve confronting powerful interest groups like the insurance and pharmaceutical industries and the doctors' lobby. In fact, the granny bashers are not really even particularly interested in generational equity. This is just an excuse for their real agenda: cutting Social Security and Medicare.
This point is demonstrated by the fact that their policy recommendations never change even when the evidence changes in very big ways. The granny bashers have treated us to three very dramatic examples of this "different facts, same policy" approach in the last 15 years.
The first example is slightly technical. It has to do with the claim that the consumer price index (CPI) overstates inflation.
The CPI is our yardstick for measuring how much better off people are getting through time. If wages grow 4.0 percent and the CPI tells us that inflation is 3.0 percent, then real wages have grown by 1.0 percent. However, if the true rate of inflation is just 2.0 percent because the CPI overstates inflation by 1.0 percentage point a year, then real wages have grown by 2.0 percent (4.0 percent wage growth, minus 2.0 percent inflation).
Fifteen years ago, many economists and pundits (including much of the granny basher lobby) embraced the claim that the CPI overstated the true rate of inflation by at least 1.0 percent a year. If this claim was true, then it undermined the core of the granny bashers' story. It would mean that our children and grandchildren would be far richer than we ever imagined possible and that many older workers and elderly grew up in poverty.
If annual wage growth was 2.0 percent rather than 1.0 percent, then in 40 years, wages will be more than 220 percent of the current level, instead of just 50 percent higher. The granny bashers embraced the claim of the overstated CPI in order to justify cutting Social Security (retiree benefits are indexed to the CPI), but they never followed through the logic of this claim for their generational equity story.
This would be comparable to AL Gore maintaining a drive to reduce greenhouse gas emissions even after new evidence showed that the planet was actually cooling. Honest people don't ignore such evidence.
The exact same issue arises with the speed up in productivity growth in the mid-90s. The granny basher crusade against Social Security and Medicare dates from the mid-80s when productivity growth was just 1.5 percent a year.
Productivity growth determines the rate at which society can, on average, get richer. In the mid-90s, the rate of annual productivity growth increased by a full percentage point - in effect bringing about the more rapid gains in real income that would have been implied by an overstated CPI. However, none of the granny bashers noted how the productivity growth speedup had enormously improved the prospects of future generations. They just maintained their insistence on cutting Social Security and Medicare.
Finally, the recent collapse of the housing bubble and the resulting stock market plunge have reduced the wealth of older workers and retirees by close to $15 trillion. This is a transfer to the young, since they will be able to buy the housing stock and the corporate capital stock for a far lower price than they would have expected to pay just two years ago.
Remarkably, the granny basher crew has somehow failed to notice this enormous transfer of wealth from the old to the young. They just continue their crusade to cut Social Security and Medicare as though nothing has happened.
It should be evident that the granny bashers don't care at all about generational equity. They care about dismantling Social Security and Medicare, the country's most important social programs. It is important that the public recognize the granny bashers' real agenda so that they can give them the respect they deserve.
http://www.truthout.org/031609R
If you were accused of something, would you want the same?
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You accused someone several times of something they did not do. sm
And yet you harp on. Have you no shame?
Then prove I said what you accused me of saying.
Show me the post I wrote where I claimed to have *inside info on rapture. She said so* as you accused me of in your post above. Just copy and paste it and show me where I said I have inside info on the rapture.
You can't prove it because I didn't say it. So who's really the liar here?
I stand accused of
You are so consumed with your attack politics you are completely incapable of answering any real issues on any level whatsoever. So here you are with you umpteenth millionth under the bus/lie lines...boring, ineffective, pathetic, self-serving. Biden's record speaks for itself for those who are listening. His "friendship" with McBush is not the least bit relevant to anyone except those on the Fox fringe. The only ones whose opinions really count here are which ones believe your propaganda and which ones don't and how many of them show up at the polls. Will be declining the answer the lies accusations. it's all in the perception, sweetie, and on that score, you and your ilk will lose and lose big in the whose leaders tell the biggest lies that have the worst consequences for all of us to pay contest. Since you cannot actually address any of the other well researched facts on the experience issues raised in the last post, there is nothing left to do here except leave you to stew in your own acidic attacks. I will stay loyal to my principles, my party, their policies, issues and leaders. They are our only hope this election season. Shocking as it may seem to you, democrats are proud to be democrats, liberals proud to be liberals. You have no idea just how many of us there are out here. Our voices have not been raised within your earshot (Fox News) under the "you're either with us or against us" mentality of your last great fearless leader. But we raise them now, loud and clear. We shall see in a few short weeks just which one of us in on the "right side of history" this time...that is, unless, of course, the republicans manage to steal yet one more election. NOT. Not this time. Don't bother with a response. Try to find something more intelligent to do with your time.
Hey, Stardust, are you not the one who accused
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What has Frist officially been accused of
other than he's a Republican...so he's got to be guilty of something right? 
Maybe you should ask Dixie Dew what it felt like to be accused by you
of being an alcoholic (and there wasn't even a STORY written about her). You do this kind of thing to posters on this board on a daily basis. And you're doing it again to GT. She has said point blank that she DOESN'T wish that on him, but that doesn't coincide with your lying attack against her so once again the truth doesn't count.
NY Times Accused of Treason.sm
Neocons Accuse “Liberal” New York Times of Treason
Monday June 26th 2006, 8:05 am
Michelle Malkin, neocon blogger and concentration camp advocate, has posted a spate of converted WWII posters on her site, taking the New York Times to task for reporting the news, albeit a year late.
According to Malkin and New York representative Peter King, the New York Times stands accused of treason “for reporting last week about a secret financial-monitoring program used to trace alleged terrorists” and disclosing “a secret domestic wiretapping program,” according to CBC News, never mind both programs violate the spirit and the letter of the Constitution. “No one elected The New York Times to do anything,” King told the New York Daily News. “They’re breaking the law to satisfy their own arrogant, liberal agenda.”
In Bushzarro world, newspapers are “elected” to report the news. If newspapers report the trashing of the Constitution, this is treason. In Malkin’s world, it follows that traitors should be thrown in concentration camps, especially if they resemble in any way Arabs or Muslims.
It would seem Mr. King and Malkin suffer from memory loss. It was Judith Miller’s “arrogant, liberal agenda” that brought us the neocon lies about illusory Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. As Antony Loewenstein writes for the Sydney Morning Herald, the “vast majority of [Miller’s] WMD claims came through Ahmed Chalabi, an indicted fraudster and one of the leading figures in the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the group keen to militarily overthrow Saddam. Miller relied on untested defectors’ testimonies (usually provided by Chalabi) to write several front-page stories on this information,” stories that did not pass the smell test at the time and have found the memory hole since.
Ahmed Chalabi, convicted bank fraudster installed as a deputy prime minister in Iraq, was a neocon darling. His Iraqi National Congress, created by the CIA, was the primary source of Judith Miller’s “journalism.” In short, Judith Miller was a hack for the neocons, thus making the New York Times a neocon conduit for lies and propaganda.
Even though the New York Times serves as a shameless shill for the “arrogant, liberal agenda” of the neocons, this does not change the fact the newspaper is protected under both the First Amendment and statutory procedure (see the Supreme Court case, Bartnicki v. Vopper). In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in a per curiam decision that prior restraint (censorship) was not warranted in a government effort to stop the New York Times from publishing the Pentagon Papers. “There’s a tone of gleeful relish in the way they [the Bush neocons] talk about dragging reporters before grand juries, their appetite for withholding information, and the hints that reporters who look too hard into the public’s business risk being branded traitors,” Bill Keller, New York Times Executive Editor, told the Washington Post.
King and Malkin, of course, have nothing but contempt for Supreme Court rulings. It is irrelevant that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice (the source behind revelations published in the New York Times) is protected by federal law. King and Malkin believe the unitary decider and his Machiavellian operatives have the right to look through your financial, medical, and library records, listen in on your telephone calls, read your email, and sneak and peek your computer hard drive and while they’re at it rifle through your underwear drawer because “we are at war” with an enemy never sufficiently documented or designated, an enemy who worked for the CIA in Afghanistan and is not specifically “wanted in connection” with the nine eleven attacks, as his FBI wanted poster reveals.
Obviously, King and Malkin, and the whole of the neocon choir, believe the phony “war on terror,” rechristened the “long war”—i.e., it will last a century or more, or long enough to provide obscene profits for the death merchants—gives the “permanent revolution” Jacobins the right to trash the Constitution.
Quite naturally, this brings to mind Hitler’s Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, an element of the Reichstag Fire Decree nullifying the civil liberties of German citizens after the Reichstag was torched (a fire planned by Goebbels and executed by Göring, according to SA man Karl Ernst).
Bush, not unlike Hitler, feels he has the authority to by-pass Congress (mostly corporate purchased whores, so this is a moot point) and use the Constitution as a doormat where the unitary decider wipes off his shoes, mucky with the blood a few hundred thousand Iraqis.
Hey, I've been accused of a lot on this board
But getting mistaken for Observer really hurts my feelings. 
No, I wasn't being all that serious. I just don't see how people can preach about an unborn baby's life being the "will of God", but the life of somebody on a battlefield is not the "will of God", the life of all animals euthanized daily in pet shelters is not the "will of God", the life of the chicken in that sandwich you ate for lunch is not the "will of God".
Either all life is sacred (bugs and trees included) or its OK to kill things. According to the Bible, there's times he's really into it, so obviously he thinks sometimes its OK. People who claim to know when its OK (or not) are claiming to know the mind of God and speaking for him, which is presumptuous and egotistical, IMHO. 
These are accused....not convicted, correct?
Even assuming that they were all guilty, 4% is not a disproportionate number...but I would agree about the fox taking care of the chickens. I can find nowhere any figures on percentage of the US population that are pedophiles. I could find figures on what percentage of pedophiles are of certain sexual orientation but I could not find anything on the US population. I don't find that anything that suggests a disproportionate number of priests are pedophiles.
That being said, a pedophile is a pedophile in my estimation, whether a priest, a teacher, a daycare provider, or a next door neighbor. All are in positions of authority over children. There should be an island somewhere where convicted pedophiles (priests included) could be dumped and just fly over once a month and drop supplies. Let them deal with each other for the rest of their lives. Should never be allowed near children again.
Okay, off my soapbox.
I did not see anywhere where there was anybody accused of voting illegally -
In fact, it was just the opposite. So many people had to prove who they were and were told they were not registered when they were and they had to go get proof to vote. Can you show me where illegals voted?
I accused nobody of anything. I simply stated that
a triple digit IQ, i.e., intelligence quotient, as in intelligent leadership, would be good for the country for a change, the implication being we have not had that until now. If it speaks stupid, thinks stupid, looks stupid and acts stupid, chances are it is, well, stupid.
I do not spend any time on sites that speculate about widely varying IQ scores for either party's candidates, since that type of data can only produce subjective conclusions. I also do not pursue illogical arguments that in one breath give Obama's SAT/LSAT scores and in the next, accuse him of hiding that information. For me, SAT scores and IQ are 2 mutually exclusive concepts unless and until someone can produce a resource that can convince me otherwise.
I made a simple statement in response to Bushisms which any self-respecting American would find embarrassing and not worthy of the highest office in the land. That statement was construed as some sort of accusation in a reply from somebody who felt the need to defend Bush. I answered that by further discussion of Bush's stupidity, not his IQ. I was not focused on the number, rather the lack of intelligence.
Therefore, I feel no need to defend my position nor excuse myself for not conducting exhaustive research in defense of somebody else's ideas and number hang-ups.
I want smart leadership. Sue me.
Well, Democrat, I am a little tired of being accused of things I didn't do. SM
Maybe some people would sit still for that, but I don't. It's obvious that gt misunderstood that I was posting to American Woman, which is verifiable by following the thread. Instead, Nameless Troll #33 gets involved and the same stuff gets started again. Yes, it is tired and tiring and silly and childish and I should have known better than to come here. Well, we ALMOST had a good conversation.
Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud
Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud |
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ALEXANDRIA, Va. — A former government contractor was charged with fraud Tuesday for handing out top access ID badges in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone (search) to an Iraqi girlfriend and others not entitled to have them.
Thomas N. Barnes III, 48, of Fort Worth, Texas, a former employee of contractor DynCorp (search), was arrested Tuesday morning at Dulles International Airport (search).
Barnes was freed on his own recognizance following a brief initial appearance in federal court. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Thursday. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison.
Attempts to reach Barnes were not immediately successful Tuesday.
According to court records, Barnes produced access badges for people authorized to enter the Green Zone, where security is especially tight after militants vowed last week to launch an attack in the zone.
DynCorp administers the badge program under a $7.7 million military contract. Greg Lagana, a spokesman for the Irving, Texas, company, said Barnes was fired and withdrawn from Iraq, and the company is confident that Barnes' actions were an isolated incident.
People seeking access to the Green Zone, or International Zone, apply for a badge and undergo a security check. Applicants cleared for access then receive a badge in one of eight colors to reflect high or low-level access. |
She was falsely accused of making racist statements.
I had the access to search this board for her quotes.
You have the very same access to search, copy and paste.
So, please, find her racist quotes, copy and paste them because I'd love to see them. My guess is you won't find any.
U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Accused of Disloyaty for Doubts...
Thousands are rallying behind this guy as the story makes its way around the web. The story is just below the picture.
http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0806/280806/gi_4h28_280806.html
Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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Well said! Short and to the point! LOL
It's the best I could do on short notice. sm
Suffice it to say, I am not comfortable with portraying the US as the Great Satan and whatever role we have or have not played, everyone turns to us in time of need, now don't they. And I mean EVERYONE, every single country. So how bad are we really? Just as I do not believe the Islamofascists are jealous of us for what we have, and they aren't, I do not believe that portraying the US as the Great Satan is going to win us any brownie points with terrorists who already hate us. So if you and Chomsky are comfortable with putting every man, woman and child in this country at risk to satisfy whatever beef you have against freedom and democracy, fine. Your freedom of speech had a most terrible and high price tag. Something tells me that many of these fine men and women, if they could speak now, would not thank you for your thoughts.
Short answer would be
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html
In 2004: **Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.**
short reply
So the success in Iraq apparently means nothing. Wow.
Actually is first name is D!ck (yes I know - short for Richard)
But, I've never heard him to be called Richard. But D!ck is a bad word and it wouldn't let me say it in the message. HA HA HA - I think thats too funny.
Did you see the short interview she did with ...sm
reporters where she was asked to comment on her censure by the Alaska legislature? She totally ignores the fact that she was censored for unethical behavior in the interference she allowed to occur trying to get the trooper fired. She just said she was grateful to the Alaska legislature for absolving her of unethical or criminal behavior in the firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, no mention of what she was actually censored for. Unbelievable!
"Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday".
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk11gvqDAgD0cY3i4WjI_2YOxwD93O25DG0
And, it is a very short drive!
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Short quiz...(sm)
Who was the president on 09/11/2001? People seem to forget that for some reason.
I have a lot to do, therefore my postings are short....
and I am young, not senile.
In four short months
(1/3 of a year, 1/12 of his term) O has put this country further in debt than any previous president. With the complicity of congress he is printing money like a drunken counterfeiter. He has stood the US on its head and emptied its pockets. He is actually running some of its businesses as well. He has his eye on controlling healthcare. He is trying hard to disarm and silence dissenters, subtly at first, but this will become more heavy-handed as time passes.
Do the math. Must we really wait a full year (let along his full term) to figure how much deeper this hole is going to get? The laws of economics have not been suspended just because of his miraculous election. Government is not the answer, it is the problem.
Let's try this experiment: I'll keep doing what I've been doing (laying in food supplies, planting a garden, stacking firewood, saving money, storing other necessities, preparing to care for and defend my own family) and the rest of you keep doing what you've been doing (waiting for Obama's ''plan'' to work or for him to take care of you). We'll check back in a year and see who's preparations worked better. Okay?
Short attention span?
Yes, it would be simpler as it would be a very very short list!
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Short memory span?
Is there a reason why you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over again? Rehashing the same ridiculous complaints over and over and over and over and over and over again?
Why don't you post the butt in a chair thing a few more times? You guys have called us more or less drugged out hippies with references to what we must be smoking, what we must have been doing in the 60s and our hookahs. You ain't exactly perfect. Now if I post this paragraph about ten more times you might get the idea, right?
My take on the subject, the short version.
Every country has some form of socialized medicine. Ours is comprised of the poor, the elderly, and those giving service to our country (military and political of which number in the millions) both past and present that encompasses their family members as well through different benefit packages depending on where they fall within the system. I believe the major argument is about extending those benefits in a social manner outside of what is already in place.
You said a mouthful in a few short words.
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A day late and a dollar short......
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well....I stop short of calling him the....
antichrist. But the fact that seemingly intelligent people lose all sense of reason when he opens his mouth does give one pause. That's for sure.
This has George Soros written ALL over it.
Short clip (less than 3 min.) Please watch this.
http://www.youtube.=om/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI
I think he's a few chocolate chips short of
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I just voted too...very short line :-) nm
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Pertaining to the short 03/10/09 duel
between A.Nonymous and North to Home.
A.Nonymous made general comments about three groups of people who will still feel entitled to be on the public dole under O’s regime and also said that anybody wanting to get ahead in this country needs to be able to speak standard English and not Ebonics, Spanish, ... etc.
North to Home felt personally attacked, resorted to personal name-calling and hurled accusations such as: Inflammatory, blatantly racist, underlying hatred, prejudice and hatred of all people different from you, cowardly, insulting, nasty, racist bigoted rants, sickening, [more bigotry, more hatred, more prejudice, blah, blah, blah.]
I’ve been waiting for others to weigh in on this but nobody wants to touch it. It’s a tough job but somebody’s gotta do it. So I will.
North to Home: The only one making personal attacks is you. Toughen up, baby. To participate on this board you have to develop rhino hide. [No that is not a slur against anybody with African roots. Don’t start up with me about it.] This is a place for reasoned political opinion and discussion, not angry overreaction. Chill. Don’t post when you are so obviously angry. Anyone who resorts to name-calling in a political argument needs to work on objectivity. We argue, we don’t attack.
A.Nonymous: You used the term ‘bitter 200-year descendents of ex-slaves’ and the word Ebonics, both of which got North to Home’s knickers in a twist. [Not exactly a diplomatic choice of words and by my math only about 144 years since the end of the Civil War.] But the pertinent word was ‘bitter’. I agree that those still bitter about slavery after 100+ years and about segregation after 40+ years need to examine their own prejudices, then get on with improving their own lives and their children’s lives. None of us on this board has ever bought or sold another human being and I am not accepting collective guilt because a centuries-ago ancestor may have.
North to Home: You are apparently still angry about your father's treatment while serving in the segregated US military during the Korean War 50 years ago. Yet he was able to bring you up right, educate you and teach you the value of hard work. Weren't his experiences what made it possible for him to do that?
Short blog from watershed wordpress...sm
Mon 21 Mar 2005
a culture of life?
I don’t know what it is about this Schiavo case that is driving me nuts and pissing me off to no end. It just seems like the epitome of contradictions, hypocrisy and doublespeak. Even beyond the implications for the “sanctity of marriage” and the over 17,000 Iraqis, and over 1500 US soldiers killed in the Iraq War as I ranted about in this post.
There’s a great article in the Washington Post about Bush’s record on life and death here.
Bush on Schiavo: “…we must err on the side of life…”
Bush on Karla Faye Tucker: “Please,” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, “don’t kill me.”
Let us not forgot Bush oversaw 152 executions while the governor of Texas.
And let’s not forgot about the baby who was taken off of life support against his parent’s wishes, in Texas as a result of a Texas law (passed by none other than our president) that states the hospital can make decisions about the termination of life over the family. (as I post this, Keith Olberman has started talking about the same thing!). You can read about this here (link not in repost).
Wait, I am comparing someone like Terri Schiavo, to a convicted killer like Karla Faye Tucker, to thousands of Iraqis, to US soldiers, and to a little baby? You bet I freakin’ am. Isn’t that what a “culture of life” would be all about?
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Nope MT, he has done some things wrong :(
Short clip on world government. sm
People have been warning us including Presidents it is coming, and getting called kooks and conspiracy theorists. Little by little, it is all starting to show up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JATcBFbvcI
Obama bailout up to just short of a trillion....
and he has been in office HOW long? lol. Doesn't count the billions we already spent. This is new spending. Talk about spending like a drunken sailor....lol. Hello democratic majority. LOL.
Hey, don't lose heart....look what he has done in 3 short weeks with...
the power you folks gave him. He has a LONG time left to do his O magic. When we are all lining up for the checks (well, that is if you lose your job and don't have to pay taxes as those are the folks who are going to get the biggest handout), just remember who put the great benefactor in Washington there and gave him carte blanche. Uh...that would be you. :)
your view is naive, short-sighted and simplistic
I don't want to get caught up in a debate here. Americans can buy whatever they want. You are right. But then when your job is gone, don't complain about it because you fed the problem instead of solving it. If you don't support American companies, you are supporting some other economy instead of your own. How can the American economy ever survive if Americans do not support it? There is a bigger picture here, and I believe you are missing it. The failure of the automakers would affect every other business and service in this country, including ours, by a ripple effect. So when you lose your job because the number of hospital and physician visits is reduced since none of them has insurance anymore and no one can afford medical care anymore, remember what you said here. If they fail, we all will lose from it.
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