Well, Democrat, I am a little tired of being accused of things I didn't do. SM
Posted By: MT on 2005-08-05
In Reply to: This kind of stuff is tired. Good nite! - Democrat
Maybe some people would sit still for that, but I don't. It's obvious that gt misunderstood that I was posting to American Woman, which is verifiable by following the thread. Instead, Nameless Troll #33 gets involved and the same stuff gets started again. Yes, it is tired and tiring and silly and childish and I should have known better than to come here. Well, we ALMOST had a good conversation.
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If you were accused of something, would you want the same?
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You accused someone several times of something they did not do. sm
And yet you harp on. Have you no shame?
Then prove I said what you accused me of saying.
Show me the post I wrote where I claimed to have *inside info on rapture. She said so* as you accused me of in your post above. Just copy and paste it and show me where I said I have inside info on the rapture.
You can't prove it because I didn't say it. So who's really the liar here?
I stand accused of
You are so consumed with your attack politics you are completely incapable of answering any real issues on any level whatsoever. So here you are with you umpteenth millionth under the bus/lie lines...boring, ineffective, pathetic, self-serving. Biden's record speaks for itself for those who are listening. His "friendship" with McBush is not the least bit relevant to anyone except those on the Fox fringe. The only ones whose opinions really count here are which ones believe your propaganda and which ones don't and how many of them show up at the polls. Will be declining the answer the lies accusations. it's all in the perception, sweetie, and on that score, you and your ilk will lose and lose big in the whose leaders tell the biggest lies that have the worst consequences for all of us to pay contest. Since you cannot actually address any of the other well researched facts on the experience issues raised in the last post, there is nothing left to do here except leave you to stew in your own acidic attacks. I will stay loyal to my principles, my party, their policies, issues and leaders. They are our only hope this election season. Shocking as it may seem to you, democrats are proud to be democrats, liberals proud to be liberals. You have no idea just how many of us there are out here. Our voices have not been raised within your earshot (Fox News) under the "you're either with us or against us" mentality of your last great fearless leader. But we raise them now, loud and clear. We shall see in a few short weeks just which one of us in on the "right side of history" this time...that is, unless, of course, the republicans manage to steal yet one more election. NOT. Not this time. Don't bother with a response. Try to find something more intelligent to do with your time.
Hey, Stardust, are you not the one who accused
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typo - meant cite things as hoax, not "site" things
Just thought I'd correct that before I get pummeled by the people who want to believe snopes is a truthful organization.
What has Frist officially been accused of
other than he's a Republican...so he's got to be guilty of something right? 
Maybe you should ask Dixie Dew what it felt like to be accused by you
of being an alcoholic (and there wasn't even a STORY written about her). You do this kind of thing to posters on this board on a daily basis. And you're doing it again to GT. She has said point blank that she DOESN'T wish that on him, but that doesn't coincide with your lying attack against her so once again the truth doesn't count.
NY Times Accused of Treason.sm
Neocons Accuse “Liberal” New York Times of Treason
Monday June 26th 2006, 8:05 am
Michelle Malkin, neocon blogger and concentration camp advocate, has posted a spate of converted WWII posters on her site, taking the New York Times to task for reporting the news, albeit a year late.
According to Malkin and New York representative Peter King, the New York Times stands accused of treason “for reporting last week about a secret financial-monitoring program used to trace alleged terrorists” and disclosing “a secret domestic wiretapping program,” according to CBC News, never mind both programs violate the spirit and the letter of the Constitution. “No one elected The New York Times to do anything,” King told the New York Daily News. “They’re breaking the law to satisfy their own arrogant, liberal agenda.”
In Bushzarro world, newspapers are “elected” to report the news. If newspapers report the trashing of the Constitution, this is treason. In Malkin’s world, it follows that traitors should be thrown in concentration camps, especially if they resemble in any way Arabs or Muslims.
It would seem Mr. King and Malkin suffer from memory loss. It was Judith Miller’s “arrogant, liberal agenda” that brought us the neocon lies about illusory Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. As Antony Loewenstein writes for the Sydney Morning Herald, the “vast majority of [Miller’s] WMD claims came through Ahmed Chalabi, an indicted fraudster and one of the leading figures in the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the group keen to militarily overthrow Saddam. Miller relied on untested defectors’ testimonies (usually provided by Chalabi) to write several front-page stories on this information,” stories that did not pass the smell test at the time and have found the memory hole since.
Ahmed Chalabi, convicted bank fraudster installed as a deputy prime minister in Iraq, was a neocon darling. His Iraqi National Congress, created by the CIA, was the primary source of Judith Miller’s “journalism.” In short, Judith Miller was a hack for the neocons, thus making the New York Times a neocon conduit for lies and propaganda.
Even though the New York Times serves as a shameless shill for the “arrogant, liberal agenda” of the neocons, this does not change the fact the newspaper is protected under both the First Amendment and statutory procedure (see the Supreme Court case, Bartnicki v. Vopper). In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in a per curiam decision that prior restraint (censorship) was not warranted in a government effort to stop the New York Times from publishing the Pentagon Papers. “There’s a tone of gleeful relish in the way they [the Bush neocons] talk about dragging reporters before grand juries, their appetite for withholding information, and the hints that reporters who look too hard into the public’s business risk being branded traitors,” Bill Keller, New York Times Executive Editor, told the Washington Post.
King and Malkin, of course, have nothing but contempt for Supreme Court rulings. It is irrelevant that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice (the source behind revelations published in the New York Times) is protected by federal law. King and Malkin believe the unitary decider and his Machiavellian operatives have the right to look through your financial, medical, and library records, listen in on your telephone calls, read your email, and sneak and peek your computer hard drive and while they’re at it rifle through your underwear drawer because “we are at war” with an enemy never sufficiently documented or designated, an enemy who worked for the CIA in Afghanistan and is not specifically “wanted in connection” with the nine eleven attacks, as his FBI wanted poster reveals.
Obviously, King and Malkin, and the whole of the neocon choir, believe the phony “war on terror,” rechristened the “long war”—i.e., it will last a century or more, or long enough to provide obscene profits for the death merchants—gives the “permanent revolution” Jacobins the right to trash the Constitution.
Quite naturally, this brings to mind Hitler’s Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, an element of the Reichstag Fire Decree nullifying the civil liberties of German citizens after the Reichstag was torched (a fire planned by Goebbels and executed by Göring, according to SA man Karl Ernst).
Bush, not unlike Hitler, feels he has the authority to by-pass Congress (mostly corporate purchased whores, so this is a moot point) and use the Constitution as a doormat where the unitary decider wipes off his shoes, mucky with the blood a few hundred thousand Iraqis.
Hey, I've been accused of a lot on this board
But getting mistaken for Observer really hurts my feelings. 
No, I wasn't being all that serious. I just don't see how people can preach about an unborn baby's life being the "will of God", but the life of somebody on a battlefield is not the "will of God", the life of all animals euthanized daily in pet shelters is not the "will of God", the life of the chicken in that sandwich you ate for lunch is not the "will of God".
Either all life is sacred (bugs and trees included) or its OK to kill things. According to the Bible, there's times he's really into it, so obviously he thinks sometimes its OK. People who claim to know when its OK (or not) are claiming to know the mind of God and speaking for him, which is presumptuous and egotistical, IMHO. 
These are accused....not convicted, correct?
Even assuming that they were all guilty, 4% is not a disproportionate number...but I would agree about the fox taking care of the chickens. I can find nowhere any figures on percentage of the US population that are pedophiles. I could find figures on what percentage of pedophiles are of certain sexual orientation but I could not find anything on the US population. I don't find that anything that suggests a disproportionate number of priests are pedophiles.
That being said, a pedophile is a pedophile in my estimation, whether a priest, a teacher, a daycare provider, or a next door neighbor. All are in positions of authority over children. There should be an island somewhere where convicted pedophiles (priests included) could be dumped and just fly over once a month and drop supplies. Let them deal with each other for the rest of their lives. Should never be allowed near children again.
Okay, off my soapbox.
I did not see anywhere where there was anybody accused of voting illegally -
In fact, it was just the opposite. So many people had to prove who they were and were told they were not registered when they were and they had to go get proof to vote. Can you show me where illegals voted?
I accused nobody of anything. I simply stated that
a triple digit IQ, i.e., intelligence quotient, as in intelligent leadership, would be good for the country for a change, the implication being we have not had that until now. If it speaks stupid, thinks stupid, looks stupid and acts stupid, chances are it is, well, stupid.
I do not spend any time on sites that speculate about widely varying IQ scores for either party's candidates, since that type of data can only produce subjective conclusions. I also do not pursue illogical arguments that in one breath give Obama's SAT/LSAT scores and in the next, accuse him of hiding that information. For me, SAT scores and IQ are 2 mutually exclusive concepts unless and until someone can produce a resource that can convince me otherwise.
I made a simple statement in response to Bushisms which any self-respecting American would find embarrassing and not worthy of the highest office in the land. That statement was construed as some sort of accusation in a reply from somebody who felt the need to defend Bush. I answered that by further discussion of Bush's stupidity, not his IQ. I was not focused on the number, rather the lack of intelligence.
Therefore, I feel no need to defend my position nor excuse myself for not conducting exhaustive research in defense of somebody else's ideas and number hang-ups.
I want smart leadership. Sue me.
I didnt say she said that
I asked her if that was what she was saying. She said, I hate to instill "fear" in anyone. If you don't sin, you won't have to repent. I was simply asking her if she did not sin. I was then stating that if she did not, she was perfect.
i didnt think so
so from uterus to another, OH WELL!
Didnt post it here
I did not post anything vulgar. I posted a link to a news website which has a news article about Bush and how he deals with his distractors. It is up to the reader to decide whether to go to a news site and read the article. I purposely did not post the article here because I dont break rules.
Here is the post..sorry it didnt come through
Calling me a Nazi?? Brunson you have no idea what me or my ancestors have gone through..This is over the line..This is WAY TOO MUCH..
Posted by **Brunson** At least on these boards the two-initialed Nazi is allowed get away with her genocide of anything conservative, but that's not helping the post count on the board at all.
you didnt mind..
jumping in on my post about voting for Obama though did you? I am not really nasty. At all. Also, I am not the top anything at my church. I will pray for you, because you do need it even though you think that you dont. I came in your conversation because I felt that I should. True Christians today need to stand up for our belief in Jesus and not worry about what others may think of it. The truth needs to be out because there will be a time when everyone will have to answer for their beliefs. I am not going to stand before God at judgment and have him ask me why I didnt speak up for his son at the times that I could have. My post is not nasty, it just goes against what most people want to believe. People dont want to hear that they are not living right or that they will not go to heaven just because they are "good." That is not the popular thing to say these days. But every Christian who allows people they come into contact with believe that without telling them Jesus's message, they will be held accountable and I will not be one of them I hope and pray.
Here is me praying for you!
wow I didnt know all that. AMEN
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didnt mean to offend
No not because of his middle name,but he himself said he is a Muslim on TV. Anyways, I dont have anything against him or he being a Muslim, I just said he is one as someone posted he isnt.
didnt take much thinkin'
to craft a response to your post. I chuckle at the thought that I am yoked with the responsibility of not making all liberals look bad. This is a teeny, tiny message board tucked away in the vast armpit of the internetS, and I would never begin to take myself so seriously as to suppose I am representing anyone's opinions other than my own. Don't take yourself so seriously. At best, 10-20 people visit here regularly and diligently apply any tactic at their disposal to suppress opinions other than their own.
Well, I sure didnt vote for the guy. We will NEVER
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Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud
Iraq Contractor Accused of Badge Fraud |
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ALEXANDRIA, Va. — A former government contractor was charged with fraud Tuesday for handing out top access ID badges in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone (search) to an Iraqi girlfriend and others not entitled to have them.
Thomas N. Barnes III, 48, of Fort Worth, Texas, a former employee of contractor DynCorp (search), was arrested Tuesday morning at Dulles International Airport (search).
Barnes was freed on his own recognizance following a brief initial appearance in federal court. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Thursday. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison.
Attempts to reach Barnes were not immediately successful Tuesday.
According to court records, Barnes produced access badges for people authorized to enter the Green Zone, where security is especially tight after militants vowed last week to launch an attack in the zone.
DynCorp administers the badge program under a $7.7 million military contract. Greg Lagana, a spokesman for the Irving, Texas, company, said Barnes was fired and withdrawn from Iraq, and the company is confident that Barnes' actions were an isolated incident.
People seeking access to the Green Zone, or International Zone, apply for a badge and undergo a security check. Applicants cleared for access then receive a badge in one of eight colors to reflect high or low-level access. |
She was falsely accused of making racist statements.
I had the access to search this board for her quotes.
You have the very same access to search, copy and paste.
So, please, find her racist quotes, copy and paste them because I'd love to see them. My guess is you won't find any. 
I wasn't/didnt vote for HC either - sm
and didn't mean to imply that that was why you were backing McCain, but there are a lot of people on both sides that will vote his way now that he has a woman on the ticket and there are people that will vote Obama because he is African American. I think it is ridiculous just to vote for someone for those reasons, regardless of any thing about them, but a lot of people will. Either way, this will be a historic election - We'll either have an African American Pres. or a woman VP.
I don't know enough about her yet and it is too bad she is with McCain, because I really don't like him. I did read somewhere just a minute ago that a while ago she said she had no idea what the VP does (many of us don't), so if Rep. win hopefully she will make some changes to what Cheney has done, or what he hasn't done.
At least now maybe I won't have to hear the #1 Republican anti-Obama slogan of he doesn't have enough experience, but Palin doesn't either.
Let the games begin!
what, didnt your mother believe in abortion?
I for one will be sending red envelopes to O!
The dems obviously didnt have ENOUGH control, or else
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Granny Accused of Looting Freed...see short article.sm
KENNER, La. — A 73-year-old diabetic grandmother and church elder who fled Katrina's floodwaters for the safety of a hotel ended up in prison instead for more than two weeks — all over a bite of food.
Police in this New Orleans suburb arrested Merlene Maten (search) the day after the hurricane on charges she took $63.50 in goods from a looted deli. Though never before in trouble with the law, her bail was set at a stiff $50,000 and she was shipped away to a state penitentiary.
Family and eyewitnesses insist Maten's prison odyssey was unwarranted, claiming she only had gone to her car to get some sausage to eat when officers cuffed her in frustration, unable to catch younger looters at a nearby store.
Despite intervention from the nation's largest senior lobby, volunteer lawyers from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (search) and even a private attorney, the family fought a futile battle for 16 days to get her freed.
Then, hours after her plight was featured in an Associated Press story, a local judge on Thursday ordered Maten freed on her own recognizance, setting up a sweet reunion with her daughter, grandchildren and 80-year-old husband.
U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Accused of Disloyaty for Doubts...
Thousands are rallying behind this guy as the story makes its way around the web. The story is just below the picture.
http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0806/280806/gi_4h28_280806.html
didnt try to make this post political
Cronyism is wrong, both repblican and democrat..I re-read my post and no where did I make it political. No matter if you are democrat or republican, cronyism is wrong..A person, especially being considered for a life time position, has to be judged on their merits, not on whom they know.
No, I didnt misstype....attempt at irony. lol. nm
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Then why didnt O just provide the REAL documents
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didnt hear the comment, missed it all
Can someone tell me what comment you are talking about? I need to catch up!
the black lady didnt call anyone a name!
what are u talking about? and what does Harlem dumbells mean? Is this person referring to a dumb black person? That is how it is sounding to me. If that is not what the comment means, why doesnt the poster clarify this?
Hey you made a rhyme. Ur a poet and didnt know it
talented to say the least.
She didnt file the suit, just posting it.
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didnt say bush appointed him. said paulson did. besides that post wasnt for you n e way.
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.
As we are tired of YOU!
Why can't you comply with the moderator's request not to bash posts here? If we are so offensive do you, why do you come here other than to stir up trouble?
Tired MT=SAM
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I have been dog-tired and still know how
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Exactly....... I am so tired of it.
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Maybe she got tired of trying to have
After reading posts like Palin says kill all polar bears and McCain diverted money from campaign funds to support the KKK it makes you wonder if there is any intelligent discussion left here.
I miss Sam too.
I'm Tired...
I’m Tired
Robert A. Hall
I’ll be 63 soon. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce, and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years.. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.
I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth around” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy or stupid to earn it.
I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the leftwing Congresscritters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them—with their own money.
I’m tired of being told how bad America is by leftwing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the religious freedom and women’s rights of Saudi Arabia, the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Gay people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela. Won’t multiculturalism be beautiful?
I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor;” of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers;” of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery;” of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.
I believe “a man should be judged by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.” I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of President Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of US Senators from Illinois. I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less in an all-knowing government.
I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful. That thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress, that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his, that slammed Palin with two years as governor for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever.
Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.
I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.
I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of AL Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.
I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I dam sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.
I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime.. What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”? And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military. Those are the citizens we need..
I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people then themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years—and still are? Not even close. So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt.. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian.. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.
I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers—bums are bi-partisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bi-partisanship.. I live in Illinois, where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats and Republicans has worked together harmoniously to loot the public for years. And I notice that the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet are bi-partisan as well.
I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.
Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.
I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination, or big-whatever for their problems.
Yes, I’m dam tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to get to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.
Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts state senate.
I am too tired to argue it. sm
You win everything! Whatever that is. Besides, it's all silly compared to what really matters in the world. Have a good one!
Tired Teddy....
You need to get a new shtick. The condescending has passed onto obnoxious...in other words, its gettin' tired, Teddy.
Yep...believe it or not, I really do know there is a written record of all posts. I just don't know how I am going to sleep at night worrying about how you feel about my posts. <--that last sentence was meant to be facetious, just to help you recognize it.
If you are trying to come across as snooty, you nailed it.
Have a good night.
This same tired link AGAIN? sm
Didn't you just use this last week? Maybe not. Could be thinking about that story when it aired on Focks News.
Me too. Am so tired of their hatred.
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Thank you, tired MT. I appreciate this post. It would...
be nice to be able to post your feelings or concerns about issues without the personal potshots at self or at the children of the candidates. But..alas...it does not seem it is going to be that way.
Might just be very very tired, I suppose.
He wasn't dog-tired.
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