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HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN.....

Posted By: sm on 2008-09-09
In Reply to: You need to read up on the forefathers... - sam

The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." The phrase "separation of church and state" which does not appear in the Constitution itself, is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.


Wikipedia - Separation of Church and State United States


http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm




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Hitler was a Christian
Anyone, of any faith can be a threat, but it is much easier to pick on the black man and say he is a muslim to hope to get votes to your side. Makes me ill!
Just participating in a Christian church does not make you a Christian (sm)
Everyone who goes to a Christian church is not automatically a Christian. Only God knows if you truly are or not. He could easily still have Muslim values and attend a Christian church. Does he? I have NO IDEA. I really don't know. What I DO KNOW is that the Christian church he attended did not teach what God wants to be taught. I know that from the Bible because we are not supposed to preach hate or damnation, yet that is what his minister preached, LOUDLY.
.Sure, O is Christian. His mother was Christian
his father Muslim. In Indonesia, where O spent 4 years, age 7 to 11, he attended a catholic school and received outside the school Islamic teachings.

When he was 12 his mother took him back to the US into the care of her mother and the rest is history......
Hitler
WOW.  Im sure if I looked up google, I could find millions of posts about the real reason Hitler wanted to exterminate the jews.  I cant believe you think it is because they were communist or socialist.  Flash..Flash..The jews were not socialist or communist..albeit, I cannot speak for all, but as a people, as an ethnic group being exterminated by Hitler, it was because they controlled much in germany and instead of Hitler taking the blame for no jobs and poverty, he blamed the jews and gypsies. 
Yep. Welcome the new Hitler.
The Lord is coming. BETTER BE READY. Also been getting ready for the big earthquake in my state and no, it is not California. Posted on the news and having earthquake awareness this month. Supposed to be a 9 and should last around 10 minutes with 60 feet tidal wave hitting the whole Northwest.
Hitler backer
Well, if we are gonna get into Hilter talking..George W. Bush's relatives in the past helped finance WWII for Hitler..
Hitler vs Saddam
I remember the stories as a young girl about Saddam throwing babies up in the air and shoting them as they fall. This was during Bush Sr.'s term. There is no doubt in my mind that he was tyrannical and murderous, but from what I understand the mass murderings, chemical genocide in Iraq happened in the 80's and early 90's. The threat of the Gulf War and UN sanctioning (and I know if it's failures)had pretty much tight gripped the dictator. There was no immediate humanitarian need for action in 2003 I'm aware of.

Hitler had a well publicized plan and factory like set up to eliminate the Jews. There was an immediate need to stop him.
Yep, made me think of Hitler too.

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LOL Hitler...let me ammend what I said

I do believe some people would vote for satan if he ran as a Republican.


What about Adolf Hitler or any of the other
in the past?  If God allowed those, then why didn't they fulfill the prophecies?
characteristics of Hitler.
my 2 grandmas who are in their 90's.  Better adapt to the new change coming. 
*Evil* is also Hitler....(sm)
you should do a comparison between Hitler and Bush.  Just Google it.
So, was Hitler righteous then? sm

Unfortunately, the reality is that the good guys don't always win.


What? Sounds like Hitler
What is he going to do? Maybe I really do not want to know. How demanding he is. Most of you all wanted change and boy are you going to get it.
no, majority was INTIMIDATED by Hitler.

You compare Obama to Hitler but you...
are speaking all the German.  Good grief!
Sorry, I do not agree to a Hitler style
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That congressman is comparing him to Hitler
I can't remember his name, but I saw it on Fox News. All he's doing is getting everybody in an uproar and scaring them. I think that's why people are posting this now.

Let be what is, everybody, and just have a sit-and-wait approach. It's much less stressful! :)
people praised Hitler

People praise Obama.  That's all you got?  Sticks and stones,babycakes, sticks and stones.


 


When Hitler did it they called it genocide...(sm)
I guess they had a good teacher.
Hitler did not prevail. Don't be stupid.
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There is an obvious reason for using Hitler..(sm)

Hitler was the one who enacted genocide on the Jews, so you would think that they, in turn would not want others to suffer as they did....Wrong.  I don't think the Israeli government gives a rats butt about the holocaust, or anything else for that matter with the exception of domination as a nation (aka greed).  So, now that Israel is basically doing the same thing that Hitler did (they had a good teacher), in my eyes they are no better than Hitler or any other who would perform genocide, and if they are doing it in the name of God, well...that's even worse.


There are my words, and yes, I have chosen them carefully.


Just say, "Hiel Hitler," all you brownshirts.
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Did you just quote the Hitler Youth Handbook?!
"The sleeping giant is stirring and a youthful new leader has emerged to restore us to the greatest nation in history."

You scare me.

And I hope you weren't one of those involved in the voter fraud linked to Obama's campaign.
Majority wanted Hitler, too, moron.
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I will change the world???? Welcome back Hitler

We aren't hiring someone to change the world.  That's not the job of the US President.  If he can't even get that right????


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081101/twl-obama-i-will-change-the-world-3fd0ae9.html


 


I'm sure Hitler had blind faith followers - sm
I'll bet the folks who blindly followed Hitler thought he was above reproach, just like O's fanatics think he is 'the one.'

I'll bet if you said anything ill of Hitler, their young, charismatic, shining 'hope' you would have received just as much foulness as you get on this board if you say anything negative about O.

I doubt the people who fell so in love with Hitler knew, or cared to know, a whip about his true character, his true beliefs, or his true plans. Similarly, I've yet to see any eagerness on the part of O-followers to look past the bumper sticker and take a good, hard look at the man they have just stuck America with.

Of course, the latest Tom Cruise movie on the, unfortunately, unsuccessful plot to kill Hitler shows how well Germany's shining ray of hope and change played out.

You'd think the world would be too saavy to let that happen again.

Although, if you look at the world around us, it appears we never learn anything from history.
I would think with all your anti-semetic rhetoric that you would be a big fan of Hitler's!

Oh the hypocrasy!


Hitler was a choirboy compared to your average
Such as Red-Evelope-Woman, for example.
But it was okay to portray George Bush as Hitler?
I guess because he was white. Or was it because he was a Republican?

Get a grip.
I saw the same thing with Obama, comparison to Hitler
So playing that ole race card again does no good.
So what? JFKs father thought Hitler was a great man. sm
So did Charles Lindberg.  This doesn't MEAN anything.  You are really going off the deep deep end.
I don't understand...you are saying Hitler's beliefs are factual and sane?
I am very puzzled.  When challenged on your historical knowledge, you cite Hitler as a source for your information?  Remember, he also planned to exterminate the Poles and all Catholics eventually.  I don't think the reasons he cites for hating the Jews are really the basis for any historical reality. He was, after all, one the greatest propagandists.
I think the only person I ever heard compared to Hitler was Bush
so I don't even get where that came from

It is weird when people accuse you of making the OP's point. Because, it is okay for THEM to say whatever they want, but if anyone opposes them you are everything they are not.

wow, hypocrites to the end
Then Again, how many would have lived and suffered atrocities if Hitler's mom had had an abortion
I am not trying to be flip or funny here, because it is not, but I do not think we can use that particular logic...just say that ALL life is precious, whether a baby grows up to be Einstein, Ghandi, or Charles Manson, it either must ALL be in God's hands because He is Creator of All, or there is no logic. Just wonder how everyone feels about the ultimate sanctity of life when it comes to capital punishment....

Don't get me wrong, I amy be a Democrate, but I am moderate and I DO believe, in instances such as the rape/murder/brulity of children, serial killers, etc, that putting a monster like this to sleep, as you would a rabid animal who will kill and destroy otherwise, is the best thing we can do for our sick society, not perfectly okay, but the best that can be done to protect others. But whenever I see this particular reason NOT to abort, it makes it sound as though if a child were retarded or slow, or even a sociopath (not a psychopath), it would be okay, PLAYING GOD IS PLAYING GOD in either case. IMHO
You forgot to add Hitler to the list of Bush name-calling.
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You forgot to add Hitler to the list of Bush hatisms.
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German Lady Sees Obama and Recalls Hitler...
http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/german-lady-sees-obama-and-recalls-hitlers-call-of-change/
Sure, my little Hitler mustache, or landing strip or fish stick...whatever
you wish to call it. Sorry you can't afford your own razors.
The Nazis and Adolf Hitler are commonly thought of as representing the antithesis of Christianity an
America and Britain will rewrite history to suit themselves.......Just like Ws history will be rewritten to hide the fact that he was a major disaster for this country.
I don't see anything Christian in it, either.

It looks like America is becoming a theocracy.  I always thought that freedom of religion was one of the greatest things about America.  I'm worried it isn't going to exist in a very short time.


The letter you posted is great!  Thanks. 


49 out of 55 were CHRISTIAN

From WikiPedia:

Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Some of the 1787 delegates had no affiliation. The others were Protestants except for three Roman Catholics: C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons. Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Episcopalian, eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists, the total number being 49. Some of the more prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical or vocal about their opposition to organized religion, such as Jefferson. Some of them often related their anti-organized church leanings in their speeches and correspondence, including George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson (who created the "Jefferson Bible"), and Benjamin Franklin. However, notable founders, such as Patrick Henry, were strong proponents of traditional religion. Several of the Founding Fathers considered themselves to be deists or held beliefs very similar to that of deists, including Franklin, Jefferson, and Ethan Allen.[11]


Although not a religion, Freemasonry was represented in John Blair, Benjamin Franklin, James Mchenry, George Washington, Abraham Baldwin, Gunning Bedford, William Blount, David Brearly, Daniel Carroll, Jonathan Dayton, Rufus King, John Langdon, George Read, Roger Sherman, James Madison, Robert Morris, William Paterson, and Charles Pinckney.


Well I am a Christian
and I don't want the lack of morals and judgments in this country forced on me but they are everyday. I can't turn on the t.v., open a magazine, or walk into the mall without seeing sex, violence, drugs, etc.

Even if you don't believe in the Bible or Christ, you cannot argue that this country wouldn't be a better place if people followed the rules and laws that are laid out by Jesus in the new testament.

Christians have been passive far to long in this country. We've sat back while God was pushed out of everything. Well it's high time we stood up and pushed back. Don't tell me the fact that this country has gotten so liberal minded and anti-God and the fact that murders, school shootings, robberies, unwanted pregnancies, drugs, etc have skyrocketed isn't a coincidence.


To christian enough

christian enough for what?  You said in one of your posts below that, "I find it especially interesting that black churches cannot be "angry" but white churches are free to do a shout out of the next anti-christ?


Hello?  If a black church is preaching hate towards white people, I would call that "angry."  If a white church is preaching about the coming of the anti-christ, how is that "angry?"  Please tell me.  One church is teaching racial hate, the other teaching Bible prophecy.  Please tell me what you mean?

I dont know what kind of church you have been to, but it must not have been a good experience.  God talks about the need for church in the Bible.  We are supposed to worship him, keep the sabbath holy and all of that.  You seem very sarcastic when you speak of Christianity.  I hope that your sister is praying for you. 


You are a Christian?
Judy, I am not being ugly here, but reading this post it sounds like you claim to be a Christian and then I read the ugly statements you posted yesterday and it just floors me.

How can someone who says they vote based on the Bible talk and act that way. That brings shame on the church and its members, which I was taught in my Bible is wrong.

A Christian is supposed to be tolerant of others and not judgmental of others.
As a Christian, it is a lot to me actually...nm
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How very Christian of you!
Is that what they teach you in Sunday school?
He's just as much a Christian
as Jeremiah Wright is!
A Christian according to you
is 'mentally disturbed', but a gay living a deviant lifestyle is perfectly normal and in the right?! Being gay is a mental disorder in itself. I think you know where you can put your stick, although you'd probably like that.
What lie? He said he's Christian.

him being Muslim, convince yourselves and those voices in your head that he is Muslim and then say he's lying about being Christian.


America is supposed to have freedom of religion.  I don't care what his faith is.  He's not my pastor.  He's my president.


As a Christian..
I don't even like to use the terms homosexual, heterosexual, gay, straight or any other such term to describe a sexual behavior which is what all these are. I'm female myself and my sexual behavior is my business. People would assume that because I'm with a man that I'm "heteroseuxal" and they would be correct. However, I do not describe myself as heterosexual. As a Christian, I believe that's a behavior and not a lifestyle. sex is a behavior, regardless of whether your male, female, or animal. Not all forms of sexual behavior are acceptable. But it is quicker to type out "homosexual" than it is to type out "people who engage in sinful, dysfunctional, disgusting behavior." But I actually choose to not even acknowledge the terms homosexual, heterosexual, gay, straight, etc. as these are simply behaviors, just as you label someone who steals as a thief, someone who sells their body for sex as a prostitute and so on. That is why homosexuals demand "tolerance" but, since the country already tolerates these people, what they really want is "acceptance" and since I can't accept homosexuality as wonderful and good, I in turn cannot accept homosexuals as wonderful and good. Homosexual/homosexuality. They go hand in hand.