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Hmm...in the interest of full disclosure...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-07
In Reply to:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/where_in_the_world_is_obamas_m.html


Don't care where Waldo is, but would like to know where the thesis is...and also the rest of the missing Columbia records.  If people are so concerned about where what the #2 on the other ticket did in Wasilla, Alaska, and how many colleges she went to, I would like to know what the #1 on the Democratic ticket was doing during his Columbia years.  After all...he IS running for the #1 slot.




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Just in the interest of full disclosure, other members of the Carlyle Group....

They include among others, John Major, former British Prime Minister; Fidel Ramos, former Philippines President; Park Tae Joon, former South Korean Prime Minister; Saudi Prince Al-Walid; Colin Powell, former Secretary of State; James Baker III, former Secretary of State; Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary; Richard Darman, former White House Budget Director; the billionaire George Soros, and even some bin Laden family members. You can add Alice Albright, daughter of Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State; Arthur Lewitt, former SEC head; William Kennard, former head of the FCC, to this list. Finally, add in the Europeans: Karl Otto Poehl, former Bundesbank president; the now-deceased Henri Martre, who was president of Aerospatiale; and Etienne Davignon, former president of the Belgian Generale Holding Company.

I never knew George Soros was a member. I never bothered to check. Now THAT is interesting.

Also, in the interest of putting it all out there...the bin Laden family disowned Osama years before 9-11.
What is wrong with full disclosure?
Criminals use the legal system to hide things.  Why should Obama?  Unless he has something to hide, that is.
If we give up all this money now and do NOT demand full disclosure/accountability to these foul thie
despite all the duplicity in the banking crisis, are STILL in corporate positions, then we have just thrown good money after bad and our whole system will go down faster. These guys do not even know what accountability means, and someone has to TEACH THEM, if not, be replaced, no more hand-outs, and face stiff fines for misappropriation of tax payer's money/government funds. We need to act fast, but not BLINDLY AND RASHLY!!
You think he's full of himself? Well, I think you're full of something else. SM
Something brown. You think on it for a couple of months and I bet you'll figure it out.
My only interest in
posting this was BECAUSE it came from someone on the ground in Iraq, an American soldier. I also said the war seems to affect ONLY those directly involved and you and your husband and family fall into that category. Most Americans do not. I'm sorry you see this as leftist arrogance, but it is how I feel. I did not feel this way about Bush 41 either (this is in reference to Clinton and Somalia) and I think that is because both of them had a plan, listened to those more knowledgeable, had a plan B and C, as the military is wont and got in and got out. It is the arrogance of this administration that angers the left so. At this point Iraq is not ours to win or lose; it is theirs - the Iraqis - and if we had done in the beginning, as recommended by THE MILITARY who know a bit more than the CEOs in office, we would probably be out of there. The US cut a deal with the Ba'athists to calm Anbar province which was totally out of control a few weeks ago and it worked. As I understand it the Ba'athists, altho the old Iraqi army, are not Sunni or Shi'ite bound. They are more like mercenaries than an I-do-not-know-how-many-thousand-year-religious-land conflict that has and will probably go on forever between the Sunnis and Shi'ites. If we had sent in more troops (recommended by military) and had gotten the Ba'athists to cooperate with us earlier; then maybe we would be out of there or at least on our way out. The arrogance I see is the stubborn, petulant refusal of this administration to do anything differently ever, no matter what. Stubborness is not a foreign policy. My feeling also is that because **that is the way we have always done it** is not a reason to keep doing it that way (reference to flag lowering).


This might interest you.

This is only one of a bunch of things he's rushing through so they can't be repaired easily once he's gone (IF he goes). 


Here's part of it.  The rest of the article can be found at:  http://www.truthout.org/110708K


Washington - In the next few weeks, the Bush administration is expected to relax environmental-protection rules on power plants near national parks, uranium mining near the Grand Canyon and more mountaintop-removal coal mining in Appalachia.


    The administration is widely expected to try to get some of the rules into final form by the week before Thanksgiving because, in some cases, there's a 60-day delay before new regulations take effect. And once the rules are in place, undoing them generally would be a more time-consuming job for the next Congress and administration.


Of interest, Iraq and oil

"The invasion of Iraq plays a crucial role in the agenda of the neoconservatives. Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world.  It could replace, in case of need, other producers such as Saudi Arabia, a fragile ally of the United States. The control of oil production and prices gives the United States potential power to pressure consumer states such as Russia, China, and many in Western Europe."


This is by the former French ambassador to Tunisia, now a journalist.  I guess I hadn't realized that Iraq was that oil-rich.


Whiners are of no interest. Got more
nm
Tell me....if Obama said it was in your best interest....
to do a swan dive off the statue of liberty, which of you would get to the top the fastest?
Thought this might be of interest s/m

seems to be a pretty unbiased report.


 


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081102/candidates_business.html


There was interest, as they were being read...

This might interest you.......at least somebody CARES!!
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More info on this, plus other items of interest

Check out this website:


factcheck.org


It's part of the Annenberg Foundation (don't know anything about that group).  Anyway this seems to be a fairly nonpartisan website (even gives statistics backing that up).  It provides great coverage of the claims made by both candidates and where the truth actually lay.  Not surprisingly it appeared that overall Bush had a bigger problem with manipulating the truth than Kerry. 


The site is not limited to just the candidates from the last election - I check it periodically out of general interest.  As I said, I want the truth, even if it's painful sometimes.


Of interest, but probably of limited significance
FACT......Those who have never seen battle personally are usually cowards and the first ones to want war, who preach for war.....and will send your kids and keep their kids home...

Do We See A Pattern Here?
10-20-4

Democrats

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.


Republicans

* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S.
Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.


Pundits & Preachers

* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
I have no interest in addressing your name calling, but
I will just say here that, once again, Peggy Noonan is spot-on. If you read the Conservative board with any regularity at all, it should come as no surprise that conservatives often disagree with GWB's spending; this is one of the two principal areas of disagreement that have been discussed over the past couple of years on the board. The other is border control.

At present, as Ms. Noonan says, he is better than the last alternative. He's also the only game in town as of right now, but he does need to be cautious about being too laissez-faire about alienating the conservative base.

IMHO, unless the Republicans come up with a candidate who is truly a fiscal conservative and is willing to prioritize and cut spending, he is setting Republicans up for another 1992 - a third party candidate siphoning off conservative votes and handing the election to the Democrats. Also IMHO (this will come as no surprise), that would not be a good thing.

Back to the Conservative board....sorry to intrude here, but I can't resist Peggy Noonan.
You must be talking about our shared interest
resource bases, pride in our candidate, his vision for America and our confidence he will be the "chosen one" come November.
Lack of interest was the point.
Focks Noise is rarely relevant. I am retired and as grown as I can get. Resorting to name calling when someone doesn't agree with you does not exactly imply a great deal of maturity.
As long as you pay them with penalty interest
Just like he did.
Geitner did pay all interest and penalties
Geitner did not pay all his interest and penalties...the IRS forgave the interest and penalties for 2003 and 2004.  They wouldn't do that for me or you. 
Geitner did pay all interest and penalties
Geitner did not pay all his interest and penalties...the IRS forgave the interest and penalties for 2003 and 2004.  They wouldn't do that for me or you. 
I don't think that we're losing interest...(sm)

The govt in Iran has really been cracking down on communications.  From what I understand (from news last night) they are confiscating computers, cell phones, etc.  Because of this, there just simply isn't as much news coming out of Iran.


From some acconts from yesterday it has been said that they started yielding axes (of all things) along with the clubs and tear gas, and threw at least one protester off a bridge. 


However, there are still postings on YouTube daily of the brutality going on.


They can reduce the interest to normal levels...
and wipe out whatever they are in arrears, and readjust payments. There is NO NEED to reduce principal. That is just another gimme. And if they can't make the payments on reduced interest they will lose the house ANYWAY. I do not understand this penchant for rewarding irresponsibility ... on the part of the buyers AND the lenders AND the government officials who encouraged the doofus process....can we all say FRANK and DODD???
Higher taxes are not my interest, neither is giving.
@
I saw no interest in Democrats uniting behind Bush....
and why on earth would I change my concern about Obama just because he won the election??

I cannot trust a man who says one thing to one person and something else to another. He goes to Israel and tells the Palestinians that Israel should just give the country back. Then he meets with Israelis and backs off of it. He tells one thing to Pennsylvanians and other thing to San franciscans ABOUT Pennsylvanians. He distances himself from Richard Daley and then brings a crony onto staff. Sorry, but I have no interest in backing someone I do not trust. What difference does it make? Nothing I say matters anyway; so just let me have my say and go on about your business aligning yourself behind O the adored. Don't even bother to act like if the election had gone the other way you would be aligning yourself behind McCain and Palin. a bit hypocritical aren't we? lol.
Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=83760
possible topics of conversation besides bashing our very popular president in the interest of preven
http://www.npr.org/


Oh whatever, gt, you are full of it. nm

You are full of it. sm
I know and you know that if Bush signed a bill that would cost us 400 billion dollars and 4.2 million jobs, you would have a stroke.  Conservatives want to protect the environment as much as our Birkenstock-wearing liberal counterparts.  But conservatives dont' base their environmental policies on emotions, hysteria or junk science, gt.  Conservatives like warm fuzzies just as much as the next guy but that should not require us to walk lockstep with the radical environmentalist agenda.  Environmentalists have watched way too many Star Trek episodes and seem incapable at times of distinguishing between science fiction and science fact.  They won't tell you this at the DU or the New York Times but we don't even know scientifically if carbon dioxide actually affects the Earth's temperature.  We live in a polluted world.  Surely the manufacture of disposable diapers (never used em), plastic containers, and styrofoam is a huge contributor, not to mention toxic waste from manufacturing.  KYOTO DOESN'T EVEN ADDRESS THESE!  It's worried about CO2.  GET REAL.  As a nation, we need to get back to washing our own dishes, washing our own diapers, and drinking out of the old faithful mason jar.  THAT' S environmental protection.  You don't know what you are talking about.  You only think you do. You can't go around reducing every argument to conservatives are mean cruel hateful liars and just ignore the crux of the problem.  Well, I guess you can.  You keep doing it.  Try independent thought for a change. 
Full of what?
Joy? Hope? Enthusiasm? Positive energy? Cheer? Delight? Elation? Anticipation? Promise? Optimism?

Evidently, in view of the response she is getting, she is not exactly sitting there talking to herself. Making it up? She speaks for many of us.

One has to wonder why it is you find this so disturbing and you have such low tolerance for happy.

Here's what you are full of: Woe, adversity, distress, abjection, discouragement, pessimism, despondency, misery, sorrow, doubt, antagonism, suspicion and misgivings.

Good luck with that. Most of us don't choose to live that way.
You are full of yourself. No one can take you seriously
is spread lies and deceit. Read the article. Where does it say that Abd Al-Rahim will get off with a free pass? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/
The nerve? GT you are so full of it. sm
Take a good long look at page one of the Conservative board. Tell me you see no postings of an inflammatory nature by liberals.  If you did, you would be lying.
He is full of nothing but hot air. Amazed at the following he has.
fffffffffffffffffff
Is there a particular reason you used his full name ... sm

Making sure you put the Hussein part in, when I have never seen you address him that way before.  Yes, it is his full name but some people (are you included?) love to add that in just to make people think he is Muslim or make references to it. 


Not saying that was your intention but it smells kind of fishy.


Know-it-all '[Psycho Sam' is full of B.S.
X
full coverage for how much
x
do you not understand that he is full of
how do you possibly think he can offer tax breaks with all of the government programs he is proposing?

Will you tell me exactly what kind of breaks he is going to give?

He may very well win but I'm terrified of what his real plans are.
Oh please. This post is so full of it
He "accurately assessed the country was ready to elect an African American president". My gosh, did he do that all by his little ol self. Excuse me but he didn't choose this. People above him who pay him told him he would run.

He by all means did not run a clean campaign. Don't you even remember what he did to Hillary??????? Not only with Hillary, but all the other primary runners and with McCain he DID resort to dirty tactics and tained election antics. And ESPECIALLY, most ESPECIALLY manipulated the courts decisions. That whole deal about him not releasing his BC is such a farce. He is illigitimate plain and simple. Does that change anything NO, it does not. He has enough rich lawyer friends and super wealthy friends who have manipulated. I am dealing with the fact that we have a foreign born president and that our constitution has been changed. I'm dealing with it, but for you to come out and say he didn't manipulate anything. Please. From his friends in the legal offices always overturning everything that people are doing to come to the truth. That spells SLEAZE in capital letters. I am dealing with it and I don't bring it up anymore but your blindness to the facts is astonishing.

His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated. Yup, you got that one right. One sleazeball Clinton has been after another. That is what I call very well orchestrated. Now if he would only pick some people with intelligence and knowledge to fill the cabinet. Not the people he owes favors to who will be the downfall of our country.

He has world leaders enthused? Have you even read how outraged some of the other countries are about some of his picks - especially Dillary! Puten and people in his country sure are not enthused. Iran sure is not enthused that he picked the lady that stated she would obliterate their country. No doubt Germany is enthused. The embrace socialism there.

The O is off to a good start??? That is your opinion. There are many of us who were hopeful for him when he was elected, but seeing the decisions he is making so far we are thinking twice about that.

He will be dazzling us with his brilliance?????? My-oh-my, did you read that in a Romance novel. You really need to stop drinking that Kool-Aid and join us in reality. Only after he is present will be be able to say whether he "dazzled us with his brilliance" or "baffled us with his bullsh!t".
you are so full of it, this is hilarious! Just
you sit and talk to yourself and make up this crap?
You sound so full of yourself
bust a gut at any moment, so could be all that mountain biking has been in vain and instead your perfectly proportioned bod is bloated with bull.

Your OP is a good example why there is a difference between those folks you claim to hang with and the ones here who have to endure the cesspool that those types of remarks turn this forum into on a minute-by-minute basis.

You missed the point of the other post. Here's a hint. It was not about chili dogs and cheese and going gaga over Obama, but you were in such a hurry to try to be cute while you post your disgust, you didn't notice.

I too would like to suggest that it might be a good idea to at least CONSIDER keeping your pot shot drive by negative snipes to yourself every now and then.
And some of us with a full brain knows this is (sm)

also about Israel.


From another Republican under the Reagan Administration, Paul Craig Roberts:  http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090508_hate_crime.htm


Since the passage of the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act in 2004, the US Department of State is required to monitor anti-Semitism worldwide.  The State Department is not required to monitor anti-Americanism or sentiments against Christians, Muslims or Arabs.  Thus, the act created a specially protected class worthy of careful monitoring by the US Department of State of negative sentiments expressed against Jews.


In order to monitor anti-Semitism, the term must be defined.  The definition is subjective and will be widely, rather than narrowly, interpreted. 


The State Department has come up with its attempt.  The State Department’s approach could include any truthful statements about Israel and its behavior toward the Palestinians that the Israeli government or AIPAC or the Anti-Defamation League would deny or contest.  


Anti-Semitic speech can be interpreted as inciting hatred.  Inciting hatred can be interpreted to be a violent act.  “Excessive” criticism of Israel is a subjective, indefinable concept that can be used to determine anti-semitic speech.  It is easy to conflate “excessive” with “strong”


Thus, demands that Israel be held accountable for war crimes committed in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, or elsewhere become acts of the “hate crime” of anti-semitism.  


glass empty/full
LOL, ya know, reading your post about glass half empty, geez.  I used to, in my younger days, be a glass half full.  I used to debate with friends and coworkers, especially liked debating with cute doctors (smile) about their glass half empty view and my glass half full view..However, as I have gotten older, wiser and more tired, yes I guess my view is glass half empty.  However, I do think if the situation in this country and the world and the job situation,  heck the respect for each other situation was better, my attitude would change. 
Your post is so full of holes that I won't even....... sm
bother to address all of them, but I will address a couple.

For starters, "sam" apparently no longer posts here, or if he/she does then it is done under another name. If so, I could not blame him/her because of the regular attacks he/she also received. The ball bounces both ways, you know, so you can come out of hiding now.

My moniker has always been "m" which is the initial of my first name. I stand behind what I post, regardless of how "juvenile" you seem to think they are. I have had many conversations with other posters on the board with no complaints at all apart from my particular political stance on a subject which is to be expected on such a forum as this.

The last thing I would address is the fact that you say I should just avoid your yellow-bellied posts if I don't care for their convoluted, high-brow attitude and move on. A good portion of the time, I do just that, but it is hard to always correctly identify you amongst all the other NM and SM "monikers" on this board, again people who like to throw out barbs without sullying their reputation. Further, when someone attacks another poster as they did BT above, and I am assuming it is you by the nature of your posts, I feel that something should be said. Rude and inflammatory posts such as you are accustomed to making are hurtful and completely unnecessary. To have simply disagreed would have been one thing, but to call someone a "psychopath" is something else entirely. I, of course, have no proof that you made the original post, but neither do you have proof to me that you didn't. I will leave it at that.

I have nothing else that I wish do discuss with you in terms of political views at this point. If and when you do decide to post something of interest, be it political or a personal attack against me or another regular poster of this forum, I will speak to that as the situation arises. Until then, have a nice day.
Well, he ain't alone.......congress full of money
xx
The full report is due to come out today. The..sm
preliminary report is that the first dude lied and did talk to multiple government officials, not just one as he says, regarding the case, and he relentlessly pushed to get the trooper fired. It will be interesting to see what the full determination will be.
Full of poop May I recommend
nm
No kidding--Is it a full moon? LOL
xx
Wow.... The world is just full of crackpots! sm
I certainly do pray for Obama's safety as he takes office and in the weeks and months to come.
If we are in a full blown depression...(sm)
then I think the number of illegals coming into the country will lessen.  If we can't offer them anything better here why would they come?  I think there will be more pressure on the ones here because they will be competing for jobs.  When Americans can't find jobs, I think they will be more likely to point out illegals or suspected illegals to lessen competition.
There are libraries full of scholarship on
avoiding here, that being the connection between racism, bigotry, hate speech, violence, crime and murder. Your glib dismissal is juvenile and superficial. Unless you can address this subject directly, no need to respond.
Yeah, the Republicans are full of something...................nm
nm
Here is what full lips are supposed to look like:

I hope this works - I have never posted a picture before.  This is my daughter right after she had her braces off.  She has the most beautiful full lips. She got them from my mother.  Notice they are not puffy!