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Posted By: ? n/m on 2008-10-12
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Full coverage based on income for people whose...sm
employers do not offer insurance.
You think he's full of himself? Well, I think you're full of something else. SM
Something brown. You think on it for a couple of months and I bet you'll figure it out.
Why no coverage

My guess would be that Bush doesn't want people to know the truth. He has refused to take the advice of his advisors regarding this war. He has refused to admit that he's capable of making a mistake.  He has stomped on freedom of expression by limiting his "town hall" meetings to only those who worship him.  Anyone disagreeing with or questioning his policies wasn't permitted inside.  It's becoming more and more evident that he and his administration certainly don't have much fondness for the truth, either, considering all the lies perpetrated by them, which is what got us into Iraq to begin with.


I'm very, very concerned about what his policies have done to the safety of everyone in America.  We are certainly in a quagmire, and it will take many future Presidents to fix what Bush busted.


first too much coverage of

Obama . . .now not enough . . . can never please you guys and gals.


 


CNN has done coverage throughout the
Some of the interviews weird rather odd.
My husband is a vet so has VA coverage....
but he also works for the government and is a federal employee. I don't claim to know all there is to know either, but I believe the federal employee insurance depends on the best deal the government can get with a private insurance company. His happens to be Blue Cross/Blue Shield of the state we reside in. Maybe it is BC/BS across the board. But, at any rate, it is a private insurance company, not an entity for all federal employees in the United States administered from a central location. As to whether or not a person working at a VA hospital is a federal employee, my first inclination would be yes, because the government administers the VA hospitals. But, I do not know that to be a fact. The supplemental programs you talk about are state administered and vary state to state. Even Medicaid is to some degree controlled by individual states. What people are talking about when they talk about socialized medicine is like in Canada, in France, in Cuba...and other countries, where it is all centralized in the federal government. The federal government decides on the coverage, it administers the whole thing, from one place. Everyone gets the same plan, regardless. To some people, it looks good that the "rich" and the "poor" have the same plan and even if you have money you cannot jump "the line." "The line" being the waiting list for anything nonemergent. That is why Canadians come across the border in droves for procedures, etc. Recently two high risk pregnancies had to come to Seattle because there was no room for them in Canadian hospitals. I saw France's President on TV talking about how their health care plan is becoming nonsustainable and talking about having to cut benefits, raise taxes, or something soon. He talked about free market health care...so while some people might view socialized medicine as a cure-all, it isn't, and it is not sustainable, because it doesn't attack the core issue, and that is finding a way to bring costs DOWN. Historically, the free market system where there is competition brings costs down. The great minds of this country need to sit down and talk about that, reason it out, and not trot out the mother of all entitlement programs. People complain about HMOs making their health care decisions, yet are thrilled to let the government make their health care decisions for them in return for not having to pay a premium. That just makes no sense to me.

Insurance companies, health care providers, and a set of arbitrators need to sit down and work something out that will truly make health care more affordable for everyone in the country without handing it over to the government hook line and sinker. They should be able to do that. It would not happen overnight, but it could happen. I would like to see any candidate talk about that.
Covering the coverage

Just watch it before you judge anything.  All this stuff can be easily checked for accuracy.  The question one needs to ask him/herself is:  "how accurately and fairly is my station of choice covering this stuff?" 

It seems awfully odd that the 3 celebs from the alphabet stations couldn't get on that European/Middle East tour fast enough, yet McCain has been over to Iraq (and elsewhere) multiple times.   None of them have gone along.  How can that possibly be objective?  Don't all of you want objectivity?


And why no debates between the 2 yet?  McCain has been asking for months.  Is that what you really want for a potential President? 

Take your voting preference out of the mix before you answer these questions to yourself.  If you allow the above, you aren't demanding true and unbiased information.  Remember, there's a big difference between a news "reporter" and one who gives his/her opinions.  There should never be a blurry line between the 2.


Convention Dishonesty


If you are watching the coverage you know much is being done...
okay, you don't believe in prayer. Couldn't you at least say you hope they will be okay? There is only so much men can do...we are talking a huge storm on a town below sea level.

What a nasty attitude.
Obama's grandmother and the media coverage

I feel very bad that she is terminally ill.  I have lost many close relatives myself and those have been the worst of times for me. 


But, I feel his campaign has used this situation to his media gain.


Put it this way, if it was me and I found out my grandmother was so sick, I would have been on the first plane there (I don't have my own jet).  What if she died before he got there?  As I said, there were a few days of a delay in there where the situation has been reported repeatedly.  If she was so sick, he should have just gone.  Everyone would have understood.


There.  I said it.  Many may think it was heartless thing to say, but wouldn't you have just dropped everything and gone? 


Biden could have taken on more in his absence.


Ummm, the part about raising the coverage
Did you not click on the link? It has to do with Medicaid.

I, at least, read it. Thanks for finding it.
No danger of no shows. Media coverage alone
imagine that. W being upstaged by an elite, Islamic, racist, terrorist, socialist, commie pinko Nazi.
there's no media coverage because they issued a gag order -
nm
I did not think Obama was for universal health coverage... see message
I thought he was just for a coverage to be available to all people - but not mandatory to take it. Am I wrong?
gee, one-sided U.S. news coverage...go figure....it's how Obama

For convention coverage minus spinning, bashing, biased

Tired of attack politics?  Don't need reporters telling you what you just saw or what to think about it?  Want a one-on-one convention experience?  Want to digest the content without the interference of disconcerting and distracting commentary?  Want to be in charge of deciding what is and what is not pertinent during the course of the conventions?  Do anchors and networks promoting their own hidden agendas get under your skin as they invent issues of no consequence, discount messages of great importance and try to stir up conflict?   Do you find most coverage obnoxious, rude and insulting to your intelligence?  Does their reporting look and sound like make believe?  Do you think our candidates, conventions, parties, issues, policies and political process deserve more dignity than a big-top circus/carnival presentation? 


 

The solution is easy.  Switch that channel.  Try CSPAN.  Not to worry.  If you feel you are missing something in the way of staying abreast with the pundit's play-by-play smear scripts, you can always get caught up on all those issues the next time you log onto MT Stars political forum. 
Oh whatever, gt, you are full of it. nm

You are full of it. sm
I know and you know that if Bush signed a bill that would cost us 400 billion dollars and 4.2 million jobs, you would have a stroke.  Conservatives want to protect the environment as much as our Birkenstock-wearing liberal counterparts.  But conservatives dont' base their environmental policies on emotions, hysteria or junk science, gt.  Conservatives like warm fuzzies just as much as the next guy but that should not require us to walk lockstep with the radical environmentalist agenda.  Environmentalists have watched way too many Star Trek episodes and seem incapable at times of distinguishing between science fiction and science fact.  They won't tell you this at the DU or the New York Times but we don't even know scientifically if carbon dioxide actually affects the Earth's temperature.  We live in a polluted world.  Surely the manufacture of disposable diapers (never used em), plastic containers, and styrofoam is a huge contributor, not to mention toxic waste from manufacturing.  KYOTO DOESN'T EVEN ADDRESS THESE!  It's worried about CO2.  GET REAL.  As a nation, we need to get back to washing our own dishes, washing our own diapers, and drinking out of the old faithful mason jar.  THAT' S environmental protection.  You don't know what you are talking about.  You only think you do. You can't go around reducing every argument to conservatives are mean cruel hateful liars and just ignore the crux of the problem.  Well, I guess you can.  You keep doing it.  Try independent thought for a change. 
Full of what?
Joy? Hope? Enthusiasm? Positive energy? Cheer? Delight? Elation? Anticipation? Promise? Optimism?

Evidently, in view of the response she is getting, she is not exactly sitting there talking to herself. Making it up? She speaks for many of us.

One has to wonder why it is you find this so disturbing and you have such low tolerance for happy.

Here's what you are full of: Woe, adversity, distress, abjection, discouragement, pessimism, despondency, misery, sorrow, doubt, antagonism, suspicion and misgivings.

Good luck with that. Most of us don't choose to live that way.
You are full of yourself. No one can take you seriously
is spread lies and deceit. Read the article. Where does it say that Abd Al-Rahim will get off with a free pass? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/
The nerve? GT you are so full of it. sm
Take a good long look at page one of the Conservative board. Tell me you see no postings of an inflammatory nature by liberals.  If you did, you would be lying.
He is full of nothing but hot air. Amazed at the following he has.
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Is there a particular reason you used his full name ... sm

Making sure you put the Hussein part in, when I have never seen you address him that way before.  Yes, it is his full name but some people (are you included?) love to add that in just to make people think he is Muslim or make references to it. 


Not saying that was your intention but it smells kind of fishy.


Know-it-all '[Psycho Sam' is full of B.S.
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do you not understand that he is full of
how do you possibly think he can offer tax breaks with all of the government programs he is proposing?

Will you tell me exactly what kind of breaks he is going to give?

He may very well win but I'm terrified of what his real plans are.
Oh please. This post is so full of it
He "accurately assessed the country was ready to elect an African American president". My gosh, did he do that all by his little ol self. Excuse me but he didn't choose this. People above him who pay him told him he would run.

He by all means did not run a clean campaign. Don't you even remember what he did to Hillary??????? Not only with Hillary, but all the other primary runners and with McCain he DID resort to dirty tactics and tained election antics. And ESPECIALLY, most ESPECIALLY manipulated the courts decisions. That whole deal about him not releasing his BC is such a farce. He is illigitimate plain and simple. Does that change anything NO, it does not. He has enough rich lawyer friends and super wealthy friends who have manipulated. I am dealing with the fact that we have a foreign born president and that our constitution has been changed. I'm dealing with it, but for you to come out and say he didn't manipulate anything. Please. From his friends in the legal offices always overturning everything that people are doing to come to the truth. That spells SLEAZE in capital letters. I am dealing with it and I don't bring it up anymore but your blindness to the facts is astonishing.

His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated. Yup, you got that one right. One sleazeball Clinton has been after another. That is what I call very well orchestrated. Now if he would only pick some people with intelligence and knowledge to fill the cabinet. Not the people he owes favors to who will be the downfall of our country.

He has world leaders enthused? Have you even read how outraged some of the other countries are about some of his picks - especially Dillary! Puten and people in his country sure are not enthused. Iran sure is not enthused that he picked the lady that stated she would obliterate their country. No doubt Germany is enthused. The embrace socialism there.

The O is off to a good start??? That is your opinion. There are many of us who were hopeful for him when he was elected, but seeing the decisions he is making so far we are thinking twice about that.

He will be dazzling us with his brilliance?????? My-oh-my, did you read that in a Romance novel. You really need to stop drinking that Kool-Aid and join us in reality. Only after he is present will be be able to say whether he "dazzled us with his brilliance" or "baffled us with his bullsh!t".
you are so full of it, this is hilarious! Just
you sit and talk to yourself and make up this crap?
You sound so full of yourself
bust a gut at any moment, so could be all that mountain biking has been in vain and instead your perfectly proportioned bod is bloated with bull.

Your OP is a good example why there is a difference between those folks you claim to hang with and the ones here who have to endure the cesspool that those types of remarks turn this forum into on a minute-by-minute basis.

You missed the point of the other post. Here's a hint. It was not about chili dogs and cheese and going gaga over Obama, but you were in such a hurry to try to be cute while you post your disgust, you didn't notice.

I too would like to suggest that it might be a good idea to at least CONSIDER keeping your pot shot drive by negative snipes to yourself every now and then.
And some of us with a full brain knows this is (sm)

also about Israel.


From another Republican under the Reagan Administration, Paul Craig Roberts:  http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090508_hate_crime.htm


Since the passage of the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act in 2004, the US Department of State is required to monitor anti-Semitism worldwide.  The State Department is not required to monitor anti-Americanism or sentiments against Christians, Muslims or Arabs.  Thus, the act created a specially protected class worthy of careful monitoring by the US Department of State of negative sentiments expressed against Jews.


In order to monitor anti-Semitism, the term must be defined.  The definition is subjective and will be widely, rather than narrowly, interpreted. 


The State Department has come up with its attempt.  The State Department’s approach could include any truthful statements about Israel and its behavior toward the Palestinians that the Israeli government or AIPAC or the Anti-Defamation League would deny or contest.  


Anti-Semitic speech can be interpreted as inciting hatred.  Inciting hatred can be interpreted to be a violent act.  “Excessive” criticism of Israel is a subjective, indefinable concept that can be used to determine anti-semitic speech.  It is easy to conflate “excessive” with “strong”


Thus, demands that Israel be held accountable for war crimes committed in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, or elsewhere become acts of the “hate crime” of anti-semitism.  


glass empty/full
LOL, ya know, reading your post about glass half empty, geez.  I used to, in my younger days, be a glass half full.  I used to debate with friends and coworkers, especially liked debating with cute doctors (smile) about their glass half empty view and my glass half full view..However, as I have gotten older, wiser and more tired, yes I guess my view is glass half empty.  However, I do think if the situation in this country and the world and the job situation,  heck the respect for each other situation was better, my attitude would change. 
Hmm...in the interest of full disclosure...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/where_in_the_world_is_obamas_m.html


Don't care where Waldo is, but would like to know where the thesis is...and also the rest of the missing Columbia records.  If people are so concerned about where what the #2 on the other ticket did in Wasilla, Alaska, and how many colleges she went to, I would like to know what the #1 on the Democratic ticket was doing during his Columbia years.  After all...he IS running for the #1 slot.


Your post is so full of holes that I won't even....... sm
bother to address all of them, but I will address a couple.

For starters, "sam" apparently no longer posts here, or if he/she does then it is done under another name. If so, I could not blame him/her because of the regular attacks he/she also received. The ball bounces both ways, you know, so you can come out of hiding now.

My moniker has always been "m" which is the initial of my first name. I stand behind what I post, regardless of how "juvenile" you seem to think they are. I have had many conversations with other posters on the board with no complaints at all apart from my particular political stance on a subject which is to be expected on such a forum as this.

The last thing I would address is the fact that you say I should just avoid your yellow-bellied posts if I don't care for their convoluted, high-brow attitude and move on. A good portion of the time, I do just that, but it is hard to always correctly identify you amongst all the other NM and SM "monikers" on this board, again people who like to throw out barbs without sullying their reputation. Further, when someone attacks another poster as they did BT above, and I am assuming it is you by the nature of your posts, I feel that something should be said. Rude and inflammatory posts such as you are accustomed to making are hurtful and completely unnecessary. To have simply disagreed would have been one thing, but to call someone a "psychopath" is something else entirely. I, of course, have no proof that you made the original post, but neither do you have proof to me that you didn't. I will leave it at that.

I have nothing else that I wish do discuss with you in terms of political views at this point. If and when you do decide to post something of interest, be it political or a personal attack against me or another regular poster of this forum, I will speak to that as the situation arises. Until then, have a nice day.
Well, he ain't alone.......congress full of money
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The full report is due to come out today. The..sm
preliminary report is that the first dude lied and did talk to multiple government officials, not just one as he says, regarding the case, and he relentlessly pushed to get the trooper fired. It will be interesting to see what the full determination will be.
Full of poop May I recommend
nm
What is wrong with full disclosure?
Criminals use the legal system to hide things.  Why should Obama?  Unless he has something to hide, that is.
No kidding--Is it a full moon? LOL
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Wow.... The world is just full of crackpots! sm
I certainly do pray for Obama's safety as he takes office and in the weeks and months to come.
If we are in a full blown depression...(sm)
then I think the number of illegals coming into the country will lessen.  If we can't offer them anything better here why would they come?  I think there will be more pressure on the ones here because they will be competing for jobs.  When Americans can't find jobs, I think they will be more likely to point out illegals or suspected illegals to lessen competition.
There are libraries full of scholarship on
avoiding here, that being the connection between racism, bigotry, hate speech, violence, crime and murder. Your glib dismissal is juvenile and superficial. Unless you can address this subject directly, no need to respond.
Yeah, the Republicans are full of something...................nm
nm
Here is what full lips are supposed to look like:

I hope this works - I have never posted a picture before.  This is my daughter right after she had her braces off.  She has the most beautiful full lips. She got them from my mother.  Notice they are not puffy!


You are the one full of (insert word here)
with your ludicrous allusion to choice. You are hardly pro CHOICE.

BTW, name calling isn't very mature either.
Our government is full of __________?

The day our government tells banks they CAN'T give the taxpayers' money back, it's time to open your eyes people.  Bank of America CEO wants to give back 45 BILLION dollars of the TARP money and the government says NO!! 


The only thing going on here is the government forcing ownership of government over ALL banks; thereby by forcing them to keep the money, the government thinks they have the right to decide who to hire and fire, what types of loans they make, who gets the loans, etc....   micro decision making crap!!!  No free capitalism there!!  


You are so full of crap it isn't funny.

If Barry thought for himself, he wouldn't be changing his stance on things every other day.  He is making a mockery of our country.  I was always worried about the people he owed for getting him elected and now we see them coming into play.  Obama is doing nothing but appealing to the far left and all the money they dished out to get him elected.  He is nothing but a puppet.


As for the continued bashes on Fox News....once again.....Fox News has the highest ratings including the pathetic channels that you watch to get your misinformation. 


I really feel sorry for you.  When the sh!t hits the fan in this country, you are definitely going to be the one with egg on your face with a confused look saying....I don't understand.  MSNBC said this wouldn't happen and O promised. 



Full speech link here

Link Below:


what do you mean, play YOUR full deck., come on!..m
nm
Keeping the glass half full SM

isn't about any of the things you name.  It comes from inside, a peace of spirit and soul. It needs no outside influence except, in my case, my love for God and his for me.  My glass has always been half full.  And it always will be because He is with me always.


You're full of S**T, Brunson Burner

How's it feel?  This is what you posted a little over a week ago to a person who mistakenly posted on your board and apologized for it.  You tell them to leave, yet you won't leave the liberal board.


It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM







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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to:
They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby


Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.


Full unedited almost 2 hour interview -

of Mike Wallace with Iranian President will be on CSPAN Monday evening.


http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212022255651


Biden's Words (In Full Context)

Posted: 18 Sep 2008 09:19 AM CDT


Here we have Joe admitting that he's for socialism and the redistribution of wealth.


Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act
The Democratic vice presidential candidate says for those earning more than $250,000, "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26771716/from/ET/

This should be the full text of the new Senate bill...sm

but I can't get it to open. Can anyone open this?



http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/01/news/pdf/index.htm