I'm not the one calling him the messiah........sm
Posted By: m on 2008-10-29
In Reply to: ANTICHRIST? See what I mean....messiah slur - "energizes" the quack base. sm
Check out some of the Obama supporter web sites if you don't believe that his own people are calling him that, Louis Farrakan for one. Here is what Farrakan has to say.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE
Farrakan says: "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change. And that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When The Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The Messiah is absolutely speaking."
He is being tauted as the messiah by many of his supporters. IF he were the messiah, he would be coming down from heaven on the clouds riding a white horse and wielding a sword. Read Revelation 19:11-16.
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Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
Messiah
I read the article, it states that he makes a messiah joke, sort of like Clinton's reference in the primaries. I watched the Youtube video and I'm not convinced that that is the real Obama. Who made that video clip? The video clip looks like Obama (sort of) and the voice sounds like him (sort of) but the usual body language just isn't there. If this were true don't you think the McCain camp would have been all over it?
Messiah
I voted for Barack Obama, and I believe he is a tremendously intelligent and talented man. If I thought for one minute that he, like George W. Bush, for example, had regular personal conversations with God and God told him to start a frivolous war, I wouldn't have voted for him.
In fact, one of the many reasons I voted for him was because he DOESN'T act like some sort of Messiah. He's just a human being who wants America and Americans to prosper. He has not only acknowledged that problems exist in our country, he wants to correct them, whereas McCain thought the "fundamentals of the economy are strong," McCain's economics guy, Phil Gramm, called Americans a bunch of "whiners," McCain wanted to suspend the gas tax so it would have a good "psychological" effect on Americans, etc., etc., etc.
It seems to me that McCain is the one with the Messiah complex, considering he 's the only one who knows how to "get bin Laden." He's either waiting to trade bin Laden for the Presidency (country FIRST?) or he's told Bush how to "get him," and Bush hasn't wanted to "get him."
Either way, bin Laden is still running around the Afghanistan/Pakistan border (unless Benazir Bhutto was correct when she told David Frost that bin Laden had been murdered).
messiah?
What facts do you base your dire predictions on? When you continue to ascribe biblical proportions to President Obama's attributes, you cease to become believable. Sounds like sour grapes to me and not based on anything but your hate and bile. I like intelligent political discourse, but, Jesus Christ, this is just pious pus aimed at discrediting ANYTHING not within your limited range of logical thinking.
Messiah website...
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
bush messiah
If anyone has a messiah complex I think it is George W. Bush. I haven't heard O tell anyone that God told him anything. Some of these posts on this board. I swear some would vote for Hitler if he ran as a Republican!!! Talk about sheep!
Messiah complexes
I had to laugh at the fact that Col. Oliver North (partners in crime with Reagan and the Iran-Contra fiasco) had the gall to 'write' such an article....that clown should have been court-marshialed and sent to Leavenworth for his part in the aforementioned fiasco...puleeeeze..
Didn't say that either. You are the messiah gal.
one post fits all with the quack faction
Messiah-end times
If after reading this email you disagree, Please, no need to reply back to me. Your opinion is yours and that's fine, just delete it.
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A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history..
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.
11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists..
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelations:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40s.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,
'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet....do it!
or again. . just delete if you disagree.
Okay, I guess the messiah does not lie after all.
LOL
Obama the Messiah
amazes me with his stupidity. He is now saying that he wants less regulation when it comes to unions. Uhh....didn't he learn anything when the pubs deregulated things and then everything blew up in our faces. Besides, unions are a huge part of why our auto industry is failing right now so why in the world would you give them more control and less regulations? Oh...but I forgot....unions are democrat backers. How could I forget such an important thing as that? Makes me sick!!!
She can drop the messiah off in Chicago along the way...
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see inside for definition of messiah -
Mes·si·ah (m-s)
n.
1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.
It is not really all that scary if you look at all 3 meanings and choose one!
The Messiah & Louis Farrakhan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE
And that's just the tip of this iceberg (Pflager, Rezko, Wright, etc.).
So you are mumping now from the messiah smear
There is nothing in your characterization of Obama's position on small business that remotely resembles and accurate statement. Not only can you not hear, you obviously can't read either.
Obama and Biden have posted an extremely detailed plan in the Blueprint for Change that describes very creative and innovative ways in which small businesses will be supported and encouraged. The tax cuts and who will benefits can also be found there. I see noting in McCain's plan that compares.
When leaders get messiah complexes...sm
When Leaders Get Messiah Complexes
Thursday, October 23, 2008
By Col. Oliver North
Washington, D.C. On Wednesday this week, I was an unwilling eyewitness to a dramatic political event and it made me wonder where we are headed as a nation. More on that in a moment. First, a little background.
There is no doubt that leadership matters. The study of human history provides evidence that empires even entire civilizations rise and fall on the ideas, virtues and skills of great leaders. From Mesopotamia to the European continent, those who chronicled the triumphs and failures of great leaders in the Western world measured success based on military prowess and territory conquered. Herodotus detailed how the Persian Empire, built by Darius, eventually succumbed to Alexander the Great in the 5th Century B.C. That vision of leadership began to change in what is now Israel.
Old Testament prophets described a Messiah in Aramaic, měshīhā a leader a savior who would deliver the Jewish people from their travails. For more than two millennia, Christians have believed that the Messiah is Jesus of Nazareth and that at the appointed time he will come again in triumph. Unfortunately, in the modern era there have many other leaders who perceived that they had messianic qualities that only they could provide.
Napoleon, in the aftermath of the bloody French Revolution, described himself as "essential" to the future of France and was appointed dictator. The aftermath was a disaster for his countrymen and much of Europe.
Adolf Hitler was elected by the German people and then given absolute power because he claimed that only he could "preserve the Aryan race." The result was a global conflagration that resulted in the death of more than 25 million.
More recently from Idi Amin in Uganda, to Pol Pot in Cambodia, Kim Jung IL in Korea and Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe all have "led" their people to perdition after describing themselves as the only men capable of leading their populations through difficult times. Yet, all their people were ultimately worse off.
It is notable that until the 20th century, the American people managed to avoid selecting leaders who held messianic self-esteem. Neither George Washington nor Abraham Lincoln arguably two of this nation's greatest leaders through the toughest crises in our history described themselves in such terms. In fact, the record of what they said and wrote is replete with humility.
Not until Franklin Delano Roosevelt decided in 1940 that our country needed his "seasoned leadership," did any U.S. president even contemplate a third successive term in office. While FDR rose to become a great wartime leader, there is also little doubt that he amassed far more power in the office of chief executive than any of his predecessors. Roosevelt's authority was so great that his successor, Harry Truman, the modest man from Missouri, saw fit to endorse a constitutional amendment limiting presidents to two terms.
Given America's history of limiting executive power in government if by no other means than term limits it is interesting to note how much hope some people now vest in such office. And it's not just the presidency.
New York City, where FOX News Channel is headquartered, has a public law limiting the mayor to a tenure of two terms. Despite this ordinance, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, citing the current "economic crisis," insists that he should have a third stint in office. Though he was once a believer in term limits he now claims that, "Given the enormous challenges we face, I don't want to walk away from a city I feel I can help lead through these tough times."
That's messianic thinking. But apparently the Big Apple isn't the only place it's happening.
During Wednesday afternoon's rush hour, I was making my way home on the "Dulles Greenway" when a phalanx of police motorcycles and cruisers stopped all traffic and ordered us to pull our vehicles off the highway onto the shoulders. Over a loudspeaker we were told to stay put until the Obama campaign convoy passed, on the way to a rally in Leesburg, Virginia.
Instantly, hundreds of people were out of their cars. Directly in front of me a group of supporters evident by their bumper-stickers jumped out with cameras, cell-phones and banners. They began chanting: "The Messiah! He's coming! Obama is coming!" The shouting only intensified as the candidate and his entourage motorcycles, police cars, black Secret Service Suburbans and busses roared past us.
What I found so disturbing was seeing so many of my countrymen who apparently think or believe or hope that the next president of the United States will save us from ourselves. Senator Obama has said we can not, "Wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for." He would do well to remember that unfulfilled expectations are the greatest cause of anger on the planet. That's true whether it is between a husband and wife, students and teacher, employers and employees, or leaders and the led. He might also recall that humility is a virtue that has distinguished our greatest leaders.
What all this means to the future of this republic, I don't know. I'm a military historian, not a prophet. But I do know the first name of the Messiah. It's not Mike. And it isn't Barack, either.
Oliver North hosts War Stories on FOX News Channel and is the author of the new best-seller, "American Heroes: In The War Against Radical Islam." He has just returned from assignment in Afghanistan.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443829,00.html
ANTICHRIST? See what I mean....messiah slur
Desperation at its most extreme. Pathetic.
Actually he's the messiah - haven't you heard
I tried pulling up your link but it directed me somewhere else and not sure what you were reading.
However Farrahkan says he is the messiah and most O lovers believe that so they must follow Farrahkan too.
As for alien? Maybe he was sent by illegal aliens, but you never know. If O was not an American born citizen and never even applied to become an American citizen, he may indeed be an illegal alien himself. Time will tell.
What he IS is a tool; not a uniter, not the messiah, not even up to the job...nm
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Another Obama day.. Another Dow tank.. Where's your messiah now?
We are going to he-- in a handbasket.
AMEN!!!!! Obama is no messiah sm
but the REAL Messiah is coming soon!
Is there a female gender for the word Messiah?
Garners Pope's Undying Gratitude" and suddenly equating a candidate with their Savior has become perfectly politically correct.
Bottom line here. O does not claim to be messiah
Anybody who subscribes to such nonsense on any level whatsoever is the one who is confused.....VERY confused.
Rush Limbaugh, hardly the Messiah of the Rep. party.
I agree with a lot of things he says, but just like the dems don't like to have Obama put forth as thier Messiah, I know pubs don't like to have anyone named that way - not Rush, not Newt, not anyone. And him being addicted to drugs at one point in his life has nothing to do with it. Clinton was a lying, cheating womanizer and looks like the majority of the dems got over that one!
You just have to put certain things in perspective, that's all.
Ditto, good post. Not a Messiah follower either!! nm
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Louis Farrakhan Declaration of Obama as the Messiah?
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/09/will-msm-report-louis-farrakhan-declaration-obama-messiah
Who's doing the name calling here? LOL
Try reading a little closer!
I said it was an ignorant post. There is a lesson in semantics here:Surly you can tell the difference between "ignorant poster" and ignorant post?
My post was not "name calling" - I simply pointed out the poster's opinions were not based in known fact.
As to name calling, I would point out your use of the term 'naοve' - what part of my post criticising Obama A DEMOCRAT - didn't you read? Why would you assume I give the Clintons a pass?
both parties are corrupt to the gills and Americans in general are ignorant of what they are actually do to us ALL and to the world.
Read a little closer before you rant :)
Why do they keep calling?
Over the last 3 or 4 days I have gotten 6 or 7 calls (they call twice a day and always when I am sitting down to eat). They are the democrats calling telling me all the wonderful things about Obama and I have to show my support and vote for him). I keep telling them I am a registered democrat so they know who I am voting for and after they've gone on about him they then say "well you should vote your concious", but they always say it quite softly and one person I asked him to repeat what he said because I couldn't hear it. The last one I told them if I'm voting my conscious why are you propping up Obama?
I don't understand if I'm a registered democrat why are the democrats calling me, shouldn't the republicans be calling me? I have not received one call from anyone on the republicans side (and I haven't left my house since last Saturday when I went grocery shopping so know I haven't missed any calls).
This is just so frustrating. I'd turn off my phone but I have friends and family that call me too. Boy I cannot wait for the election to be over.
There was no name calling at all there nm
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Name calling. How like you.
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Again with the name calling?
What are you, 9?
Name calling
What are you a child with your name calling? How can anyone take anything you say seriously when you act like a 5-year-old calling names?
name calling
I have bedbugs crawling all over me as I lie on the bed in this cheap motel.
Things zoom past me that I just don't get.
I am such a wrong poor widdle victim of meanies and misogynists, and I play the race card too. And I drank so much Kool-Aid that I cannot face unpleasant truths.
I refuse to grow up. And I can't put a sentence together.....
But you have a face only a mother could love...
I don't appreciate you calling me a liar
and neocons liars in general (BTW, I'm not a neocon), and I refuse to discuss the gross inaccuracies in the article above with a person who thinks we're all liars. It's blatant waste of time.
Like Pat Robertson calling for
of Chavez? Or telling the people of Dover not to pray to God 'cause God won't answer? Must be nice to have such a straight line to the Lord God. Yeah, that's REAL Christianity alright.
Can you stop with the name calling please?
The moderator asked that we be respectful, and "ignorant conservatives" is far from that. Branding a whole group of people based on the way one person posts shows very little tolerance on your part. I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant and believe in the rights of EVERYONE...EVEN...GASP...OH NO...conservatives!!! You do not sound very tolerant and you walked ALL OVER this poster's rights. I guess it is a case of Do as I say...not as I do? It kinda makes any statement or point you wished to make here ring very hollow...at least in this ignorant conservative's view.
You keep calling me your friend...
...why is that? I hope you don't generally treat your friends this way.
As far as me singling people out to torment -- it would only be you and it would be singular. Plus, I didn't "single" you out, just saw your posts on a PUBLIC forum and as I said, they looked kind of mean and cruddy. However, I would say you are the PLURAL stalker. Come one, come all you will take them on and condemn and mock all that folks say on the liberal board!! And then accuse them of all being the same person. Lots of paranoia goin' on in that ole brain of yours, doesn't sound very healthy at all!!! No, sir!!!
Can we stop with the name calling?
Just because you do not agree does not make the poster ignorant. Condescending, to say the least.
Obama's message of empathy is redistribution of wealth. Socialism 101. Why do you think because someone has been successful that obligates them to pay more than anyone else? If you check on a lot of those so-called rich, they give more heavily to charitable organizations, establish foundations, etc. They don't horde it all and count it daily and laugh maniacally because they have it and you don't. Class envy is a nasty, nasty thing.
Why not a flat tax? Ten percent across the board, we ALL pay it. THAT is fair. The rich already pay over 90% of ALL taxes in the coffers. Even THAT is not enough for you.
Perhaps Obama could keep his girls out of camp one year and put that 10 grand toward helping some of the less fortunate. Let him lead by example. Ah...but don't hold your breath. And it is not just Obama...any Dem. Lead by example...cut them a check every month, right of the top of your wages.
It is very naive to suggest that corruption resides only on the republican side. The Clintons have run corrupt administrations from Arkansas right on up. I refer you to the hail mary pardons, travelgate, whitewater, and on and on and on and on. If you are going to accuse, you should accuse across the board.
Another very naive point..stopping nuclear proliferation. It is NOT going to happen. It cannot happen. For it to happen, all parties have to be on board. Russia will never surrender its nukes. Iran will never surrender its nukes. If Israel ever surrenders it's nukes, they have signed their death warrant. Can we not be realistic about this??
thanks for calling me stupid ...
who knows? If you are half as smart as you think apparently think you are, yes indeedy -- maybe you could do it ... if you had become governor of a State!
I am tired of the slick, coached peoplel who simply regurgitate what the punduits tell them too. At least, for now, she is a real person ....
I can see why you like Obama -you have the same superiority attitude with a condescending nature ... LOL
that said, I really do not like him BUT I may vote for him - I truly haven't made up my mind yet.
LOL ....
It's about the issues, not the name-calling.
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Calling all rebpublicans.
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Calling all pubs.
xoxoxoxo
No sam, I'm not calling for anyone's head
this. Why are you making it so dem/pub?
rude you are. Calling
someone an 'old man' is showing a complete lack of respect.
thanks for calling me a liar --
on your party as I am a registered democrat -- got my "Are you supporting Obama?" call just last week. I told her then that I was undecided, but over the last few days, I have finally come to a decision. I'm voting McCain.
Your immaturity disproves your credibility (are those words too big for you?).
Your name calling reflects more on you....
than the object of it. Does it make you feel smug and superior?
calling names
 Vie:
I don't know which side of the bed or as I tend to think you crawled out UNDER, but to call people names on top of your irrational delusional rants about who said what here - you are truly asking to bet your feelings hurt here. As far as your comment about 'what are you going to say when you stand in front of God' to "M/SM"; I am sure they will say that they are glad they are NOT YOU. Don't go away mad - just go away..
Smears, name calling and
unsubstantiated accusations do not pass for intelligent political dialog. Seems like you have had plenty of time since November to absorb the reality that this kind of doo-doo is what lost the election for McC and his rogue sidekick. You might want to come up with a more inspired strategy.
Do you EVER stop the name-calling?
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There you go - another name calling insult
Can you try to have an adult convesation here instead of proving us right by repeatedly name calling and "trying" to ridicule those who don't agree with you.
But calling me a liar when you know nothing about me is...
so mature. At any rate, I did not make bad decisions. We bought the house three years ago (at the height of the market) and still paid less than it is worth today--in a West Coast state, no less. I would say that our decisions were just fine. And we did it without family money. My investment is sound and I will be fine. I just don't care for the fact that people who are defaulting on loans can refinance at lower rates, but if you are a responsible person who pays on time every time, you are SOL. This should irritate you, as well, if what you say is true. My big point was that even though my property assessment by the state went down in value, we will still b e paying more in taxes this year. That was it. And no, I am not lying.
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