So, Bible-believing Christians OK with giving racism a pass?

• ex-O supporter - shelly
  • Character questions - Concerned Voter
  • I too am ex-O supporter - Kaydie
    • But it is okay that McCain cheated on his wife. - You are all religious????? What?
      • The shame is that we don't have another choice (sm) - MeMT
        • There's always the Constitution Party....sm - m
      • That is between......sm - m
    • I supported Obama at first too. Now I'd have to agree with Savage 100%. - MeMT (nm)
  • Shelly, you're not alone -- sm - leaning to the right
    • If Obama was....and I am not saying he is... - sam
      • The numbers in the name actually - close
        • I don't agree that the Biblical reference... - sam
      • My view............sm - m
        • I agree....nothing will change what is to be. - sam
    • There's one sentance that really says it all - Kaydie
    • lean to the left, lean to the right, stand up, sit down - fight fight fight !!
  • Shelly, - IMT
  • This is all internet talk. On one has said this in public where...sm - oldtimer
    • No one is trying to "scare" anyone (sm) - Kaydie
    • I am not stupid - shelly
      • Would God allow a dictator? sm - m
        • What about Adolf Hitler or any of the other - dictators that have come to power
          • Only God knows..........sm - m
      • sorry if sounding defensive - shelly
        • No offense taken. Rumors spread so fast, especially ...sm - oldtimer
  • You might want to ask youself - a few questions....sm
    • so far as I know, Louis Farrakahn.... - sam
    • i have - shelly
      • So, Bible-believing Christians OK with giving racism a pass? - Love thy neighbor. Do unto others notwithstanding
        • McCain did state to everyone that Obama is a good person and not someone to be feared (sm) - MeMT
          • I would certainly expect him to do that - shelly
        • uhhhhh.....what????? - shelly
          • Interesting isn't it - Kendra
            • huh? - shelly
              • If it was not you, then I deeply apologize. - Kendra
                • no problem! - shelly
          • I agree - Where in the world did racism come into this post? - MeMT
          • Read the post your thread appears under. - The one about the questions...sm
            • Perhaps if you would try to make sense people could answer your questions. nm - MeMT
              • dont try 2 explain it to her... she cant get it - shelly
              • Has anybody read the post their threads are under yet... - The QUESTION post...nm
                • Yes, see your answer above. nm - MeMT
          • Notice how the dems are the ones always playing the race card... - onlyinamerica
            • No race card here...just a simple rhetorical question - in the post above your own thread....sm
            • wow - shelly
              • Start at the top and work you way down. - If it doesn't make sense to you...
  • You are right...........to a point.......sm - m
    • Can't resist....maybe it isn't a duck, maybe it's a republican. LOL - gourdpainter
    • ANTICHRIST? See what I mean....messiah slur - "energizes" the quack base. sm
      • I'm not the one calling him the messiah........sm - m
        • No, you're the one raising the ANTICHRIST spectre. - Messiah comment aimed at OP....
          • quack number 1 - shelly
            • Didn't say that either. You are the messiah gal. - Talk and chew gum at the same time....
              • sorry 4 u - shelly
                • I picked up the quack word from the original post. - Are you following this thread at all?...sm
                  • I'm the one who used the word "quack"...sm - m
                    • thanks - shelly
                      • We can hope..........sm - m
                  • it will be okay - shelly
                    • Bottom line here. O does not claim to be messiah - and is not the anti-Christ.
    • o - shelly
      • Yes....chapter 13.....sm - m

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They are a radical group calling themselves Christians, like AL Queda calls themselves Muslim. 

their believing this because they are experiencing it.  You all honestly think everyone is stupid.  All you have to do is step into a Wal-Mart, a Target, or have your kid come home and tell you that if you wish people Merry Christmas or bring any Christian symbols to school they will be sent home and/or punished. 

I don't have a problem with the other holidays, but it is discrimination when you can post the other holiday symbols in the public, square, businesses, or schools but you cannot post anything about Christmas or the reason for Christmas which is Christ.

Racism does not have to be whites not accepting blacks.  It can also be blacks not accepting whites.  And that does happen.  I would not approve of anybody that was trying to be a leader of this great country siding with one or the other.  They need to accept both blacks and whites.  Obviously, Obama does not think that way.  So what, if he was a teen when he wrote these books.  They should never have been published if he does not agree with what is in them. 

All this mess that is going on now did not start with George Bush.  Congress controls this country, with the president having veto power.  The Dems have been in power insofar as Congress goes for the last two years.  But it started even before then. 

Wake up, America!  You think with all our news media announcing to the world what we are getting ready to do that if Iraq had WMD they would not have known what was going on over here and what our plans were and most likely would have moved the WMD to another country. 

Will racism play a major roll in this election?  You betcha.  However, you cannot say that people not voting for Obama are racist.  Some of them are, but not all of them.  How many Obama supporters are voting for him just because he is black?  Probably a heck of a lot....so you have racism on both sides here.

Yesterday someone posted and used Barrack Obama's middle name and they were called racist for doing so.  I do not see how this is racist.  It is the man's name.  How can someone be racist for calling him by his name?

I seriously am tired of people playing the race card.  Yes, racism is out there and it will play a part in this election but that most definitely goes on both sides.  You have your wacko people yelling "kill him" at a McCain rally.  The media tried to say it happened again at a Palin rally, but that is untrue.  It was only yelled during a McCain speech.  That was wrong and crazy people like that are way out of line.  They are also giving good people who are McCain supporters bad names.  Then you have Obama's supporters.  There are many good people who are on Obama's side and yet there are those crazy wack jobs on his side as well who are only voting for him because he IS black and most certainly will be screaming racism if Obama should lose.

Both sides are guilty of racism.  Some are afraid of the crazy people yelling "kill him" and others are afraid of crazy Obama supporters rioting if he should lose.  It goes both ways.  So stop blaming one side or the other.  They both have nut job racists.  I'm just tired of hearing about this.

Al Sharpton doesn't have to look far for fuel...see the following story on racism in America.

On June 28 2007 a young black defendant Mychal Bell was found guilty of aggravated assault against a young white man by an all white jury despite conflicting testimony from witnesses.

His defense lawyer was incompetent at the very least and didn't even call the only adult to witness what happened to the stand. This man's testimony could have concievably blown the prosecuters case out of the water.

Originally the prosecuter tryed to charge Mychal and others with attempted murder for being involved in what was basically a fight and only backed off because of a worlwide public out cry. Learn more about the case from documents sent to me by Alan Bean, the founder of Friends of Justice a group dedicated to making sure all people are given a fair trial. You can read the documents by clicking the links below:

http://share.triangle.com/node/13576

The questions remain :

What is Barack Husein Obama - a Senator from Illinois - doing when he is interacting with a violent rebel, muslim leader in Kenya who may have been responsible for the murder of dozens of innocent people burned to death simply because they took refuge in a church?

What is Barack Husein Obama doing when he interferes in the internal operations of a foreign nation like Kenya?

Are you going to let a well organized and well financed representative of a foreign government push his way any further into your national government?

How many more people have to die before Americans come to understand that Barack Husein Obama is not a product of the land of Lincoln?

Born in Hawaii he spent most of his life in the violent and backward nation of Indonesia – where not too long ago the Australians had to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians in East Timor.

When will this blood soaked travesty of our national political system come to an end? When will the mocking smirk of our enemies be wiped from our television screens?

Change they want? With the gun? With the torch?

It helps with appetite and is an analgesic.  Stay home and smoke it.  No harm  done. 

I'm sending it to my Senator and Congressman too as well as to Obama.

I was sent a newspaper clipping via e-mail, with a list of changes that, according to the actual author, most American people would very much like to see in our Government.

The actual author is Norma White of Amarillo. She is a retired network engineer for Southwestern Bell. I do not know which newspaper it came from, but after reading it, I would vote for her if she ever ran for Congress. I wanted to share them with you all.


The article's title is:

You Want Change? Try These Ideas.

1. Limit Congress from serving more than two terms. That is all that presidents are allowed.

2. Stop Congress from voting for their own raises. How did that ever get started?

3. Stop paying for lawmakers' high-priced insurance premiums. After all, they are only part-time employees. They might pass some law changes on the insurance companies, if they actually had to find one!

4. Stop paying lawmakers, or the president, their full salary after serving just one term, or when they leave office. We need to get rid of that pension plan; they've let other companies get rid of theirs. You were lucky to get 40 to 50 percent of your salary after working somewhere for 35 years, but they get 100 percent.

5. Make Congress pay into the Social Security system. They make laws for it. If they spent some of their own money, then they might be interested in making it solvent.

6. Stop handing out aid to illegal aliens. If we did, then Medicaid and the food stamp program would have enough money to aid the aged and the poor.

7. Secure our borders.

8. Stop allowing babies born to illegal aliens in the United States automatic U.S. citizenship.

9. Stop the abuse of our benevolent welfare system. We feed children free meals three times a day until they are 17. Churches give away good, clean clothes. Companies buy and donate school supplies. Emergency rooms provide health care at taxpayer expense and the food stamp program is buying food at home. What are parents doing for their children?

10. Have a computer program that cross checks Social Security numbers with finger prints to stop fraud on many fronts. Use it on voter registration too.

11. Stop bailing out mortgage companies and banks that give loans to people who cannot afford them.

12. Stop companies from paying CEOs and other executives outrageous salaries and bonuses while doing away with workers' pensions.

13. Stop all unnecessary spending so we will have the money for our nation's security, and to help needy and elderly Americans.

14. Stop permitting anyone to have a photo with their face covered on driver's licenses.

Unfortunately, no matter who won the presidency, they will not be able to make any of these changes.

Only members of Congress can do that, as they are the lawmakers.

I seriously doubt Congress is interested in changing anything, do you?

After our rather heated debate tonight, I went off in search of answers to the questions of Obama's qualifications to be POTUS, and here is what I found. 

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

US Code Title 8,1401 states the following as a qualification of a natural-born US citizen.  (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html).  This is the only qualification that Obama actually passes to qualify to be POTUS, but one is all that is needed as all the qualifications listed are exclusive of each other. 

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

Since this does not specify a particular time frame in which the US citizen parent must live in the US prior to the birth of the child, it must be assumed that any one-year residency would satisfy the requirement. 

Somehow crow for Thanksgiving dinner just isn't quite what I had in mind.  Please make sure it is well done with lots of BBQ sauce. 

This was meant to be a joke right? 

'most of the people there was'.  Or was that intentional?  

We don't usually rag on hurried typo errors because we have no spell check on this forum.  But not bothering to look up a spelling or making a rookie grammatical error are both noteworthy. 

See below:

As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."

In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh's mocking take on the NAACP, a group with a ninety-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Such quotes and antics -- many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) for our 1995 book -- offer a whiff of Limbaugh's racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in America "is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings" of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna's first child, a Latino, as "a gang-member type guy" -- an individual with no gang background.