Okay, now Rush/O'Liely/Colter didn't say it,
Posted By: -- sm - Starcat on 2006-05-12
In Reply to: Pardon me for saying so but here is no way Bush ever said that about the Constitution. - Lila
so you won't believe it, but read this:
The guy is a friend of Cheney's, for Pete's sake.
From the December 2005 Idaho Observer:
President confirms Constitution status in angry outburst
It’s just a g-d piece of paper, President Bush reportedly exclaimed in reference to the U.S. Constitution.
The alleged comment came last month during a meeting with congressional leaders who were cautioning President Bush about implementing some of the more controversial provisions of the new-improved Patriot Act and was reported by Capitol Hill Blue editor Doug Thompson. Capitol Hill Blue publishes the dirt coming from secretly disgruntled sources inside the Bush administration. The president’s dramatic mood swings, substance abuse issues and profane language are commonly reported.
Thompson is hard to discredit. He has been a D.C. journalist for over 40 years and is known to have eyes and ears everywhere.
President Bush even commented that Dick Cheney is one of his best friends because he doesn’t read about their private conversations in the press the next day.
The truth is that President Bush is right, in a practical sense: The Constitution is just a piece of paper that was superceded by the 14th Amendment and replaced by U.S. Code. However, blatant irreverence for that sacred document is unbecoming of a president.
See full story below
Did President Bush really say that?
If you will notice, President Bush no longer (if he ever did) carries himself as the commander-in-chief of the world’s most formidable military leader of the free world and president of the United States. For the last couple months he acts like he’s running for office. His administration is sinking in a quagmire of corruption and its capacity for fiscal irresponsibility and diplomatic arrogance seems to reach new highs (or lows) with each passing day. His job is no longer steering our nation through this difficult time, but to convince the American people that the times are not difficult and everything is going according to some secret plan that he and his cronies are working. And then this: Did he really refer to the Constitution as a g-d piece of paper? As many who have considered the possibility since the story broke in Capitol Hill Blue Dec. 9, 2005, we believe that he did say it. Even if he didn’t, he acts that way. And, in all honesty, it’s true—just as true as the statement, It’s just a g-d book when a soulless psychopath describes the Bible.
by Pastor Chuck Baldwin
Internet news site Capitol Hill Blue’s founder Doug Thompson wrote in his column on December 9 that in a private meeting with congressional leaders, President G.W. Bush was urged to take caution in implementing his new Patriot Act because it would potentially alienate conservatives. According to Thompson, the president retorted by saying, I don’t give a g-d-, I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way!
During that same meeting, Thompson quotes an aide as telling Mr. Bush, There is a valid case that the provisions in this law [the Patriot Act] undermine the Constitution. Thompson quotes the president as screaming back, Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a g-d- piece of paper!
Thompson said he talked with three people who were present for that meeting and that they all confirmed that President Bush called the Constitution a g-d- piece of paper.
Please understand, Thompson is a career journalist. To my knowledge, his news site only produces credible news. For the sake of this column, therefore, let’s deal with the possibility that what Thompson wrote was truthfully told him by people who were in attendance at that meeting (No, Thompson did not name those persons).
Before going further, let’s acknowledge that Doug Thompson is not a fan of President Bush. In fact, he is an outspoken critic of the president. But then again, it seems to me that he is an outspoken critic of most politicians. In my opinion, that’s not all bad. But that’s not the point. All that matters is the truthfulness of the report. If it’s not true, Thompson must bear responsibility.
However, what if it is true? What if President Bush actually said the things Thompson said he said? In that case, every American must bear responsibility!
If President Bush said the things Thompson accuses him of saying, it is monumentally important! It reveals a side of G.W. Bush that has been heretofore hidden from the public, a side of the president that should cause all true Christians and all lovers of liberty deep consternation!
If G.W. Bush said the things he is quoted as saying, it means that our President is not only the worst kind of liar but also a very clear and present threat to freedom!
Remember that President Bush twice put his hand on a Holy Bible and took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Such an oath carries with it the most sacred of intentions and the most serious of consequences.
It is one thing for a president to proceed upon the conviction that his actions are constitutionally justified even though he is criticized for those convictions; it is another thing altogether for a president to feel in his heart and to verbalize with his lips that the very document which he swore an oath to uphold is nothing more than a g-d- piece of paper.
Americans must understand that the only reason (humanly speaking) that this country has been able to maintain a 200 plus year legacy of liberty and individual freedom is due to our respectful adherence (at least in principle) to the U.S. Constitution. To quote Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, I don’t have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it’s better than anything else. Amen.
The Constitution is better than anything else! It is the most magnificent governing document ever written by man! Along with our Christian heritage and common English language, the Constitution has formed the glue which has held our republic together. Rightly did Daniel Webster say, The hand that destroys the Constitution rends our Union asunder forever.
If President Bush truly believes the Constitution is just a g-d- piece of paper, he is capable of any attack against it.
Yet, there is another revelation contained in President Bush’s remarks, if they be true: his repeated blasphemy of God’s name.
It has been long known that G.W. Bush is a prolific swearer. That much we know is true. One former congressman told me of hearing Bush repeatedly use the f word. Most Christians would not want their children using that or any other swear word, but probably don’t mind too much (sadly) that their president, even one who professes to be a Christian, would use profanity. But what about repeatedly using God’s name in vain? Is that insignificant?
To many people, swearing is nothing more than everyday communication. However, using God’s name in vain is more than vulgar talking: it is blasphemy!
The Holy Scriptures are very clear on this point. The Third Commandment is emphatic: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Furthermore, Psalms 139:20 states, Thine enemies take thy name in vain.
We need to get something settled: George W. Bush (or any other U.S. President or Congressman) is not above the Constitution or the Word of God! And while we are at it, let’s settle something else: those conservative Christians who would allow G.W. Bush (or anyone else) to trample our Constitution and our Biblical values have become idolaters in their own hearts by giving to man (any man) the kind of preeminence that only the Bible and the U.S. Constitution deserve!
Did President Bush really say the things Doug Thompson quotes him as saying? I sincerely hope not. And if he did not, Mr. Thompson certainly owes his readers and the president an apology. However, if it proves to be true, will conservative Christians admit that everything they were led to believe about G.W. Bush was a lie, because indeed it would be?!
© 2005 Chuck Baldwin - All Rights Reserved
Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. In 1985 the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence.
Dr. Baldwin is the host of a lively, hard-hitting syndicated radio talk show on the Genesis Communications Network called, Chuck Baldwin Live This is a daily, one hour long call-in show in which Dr. Baldwin addresses current event topics from a conservative Christian point of view. Pastor Baldwin writes weekly articles on the internet www.ChuckBaldwinLive.com and newspapers.
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I didn't rush my judgment, I have had
several days now to ponder this, wondering why he put it off.
When my father fell ill, my brother dropped everything to get here with the rest of us. He had to get on the first flight out. He didn't make it in time. It was also that same brother's birthday, the day my dad died.
So before you rush to judgment with me, I have been there, done that.
O'Liely at it again - now that's
Not once, but twice...hey, if it ain't happening, let's just make it up!!! And then people parrot everything this guy says?! Good grief!
Saginaw Township On The O'Reilly Factor Radio Program
(TV5) -- A Mid-Michigan Township makes national news but there's a problem, local officials say the whole thing was made up.
Bill O'Reilly is making the claim that Saginaw Township officials banned residents from wearing red and green during the holiday season. Local officials say he's dead wrong.
Syndicated controversial talk show host Bill O’Reilly said on his radio show:
“In Saginaw , Michigan , the township opposes red and green clothing…on Anyone, In Saginaw Township they basically said anybody, we don’t want you wearing red or green. I would dress up from head to toe in red to green if I were in Saginaw Michigan .”
-- Bill O’Reilly
WNEM TV-5 Talked to Saginaw Township supervisor Tim Braun who says O’Reilly’s comments are flat out not true. Braun goes on to say the township hall has red and green Christmas lights adorning the building at night.
On December 12th the Fox News Channel which broadcasts O’Reilly’s Cable TV show “The O’Reilly Factor” told TV5 it was a radio issue and had nothing to do with the Fox News Channel. TV5 is contacting O’Reilly’s radio producers for their side of the story.
'Red & Green Clothing Ban'
False Rumor
December 12, 2005
On Friday, December 9, on the Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor, with Bill O'Reilly and guest Jim Pinkerton, Fox News analyst, it was falsely reported in a segment entitled More Victories for Christmas, that ...
.....In Plano, Texas, a school told students they couldn't wear red and green because they are Christmas colors.......
Due to the number of e-mails, inquiries and phone calls to Plano ISD regarding students wearing red and green, Superintendent of Schools Dr. Doug Otto has posted this communication to assure the school community that this rumor is not true.
The school district does not restrict students or staff from wearing certain color clothes during holiday times or any other school days, noted Dr. Otto, who said that the school district's attorney has requested that Mr. O'Reilly retract the statement.
Dr. Otto said that attorneys have requested of Mr. O'Reilly that, in the future, he ask his fact checkers to do a more thorough job of confirming the facts before he airs them. It would be our hope that you would engage in fair and balanced reporting of this nationally recognized school district in the future, wrote PISD's attorney.
I believe O'Liely invented the entire
thing to help his pal John Gibson sell his book on this fictional topic.
After this *War on Christmas* was conjured up by these two, I believe that some people jumped on the *Happy Holidays* bandwagon simply because they're sick and tired of the religious right forcing their religion down everyone's throats for the past 5 years in the form of laws, supreme court nominees, FDA rulings, etc.
I think people of all religions are sick and tired of their religions being regarded as somehow *less* if they're not Christian (or even begin the *right kind* of Christian).
The other week, I made a contribution to a Salvation Army *pot* outside of a store I was visiting. The young man wished me a Merry Christmas, and I responded back with *Merry Christmas,* because I'm aware that the Salvation Army is a Christian organization. I would never dare to ASSUME that every stranger I encounter is Christian, and if I am the person initiating the *Happy* greeting, I use the phrase *Happy Holidays.* If I'm responding, I respond back with whatever they say to me first.
Yes, CHRISTMAS obviously is a Christian holiday first and foremost. But this holiday has also evolved into a secular one which includes Santa Claus and jingle bells, lights, tinsel and credit cards. It provokes people of ALL religions to act in a *Jesus-like* way: With kindness, charity, love and tolerance.
I believe that the Christmas *season* is so loved by ALL people that they are just unwilling to give it up to those who have proven to be so intolerant for the last 5 years. They want to feel included and validated, as well. It's ironic how some of the ones who claim to be the most *Christian* are unwilling to share their holiday with the rest of the country, and rather than being inclusive and welcoming of others under the umbrella of *Happy Holidays,* they instead choose, once again, to bully others. Must be the true meaning of the *bully pulpit.*
Merry Christmas to all Christians who celebrate Christmas.
Happy Holidays to others of all religions who just might enjoy the Jesus-LIKE feeling they get in their hearts during this time of the year. And as long as I initiate holiday wishes to strangers, I will be very respective, tolerant and inclusive of those who just might not be Christian, as I fondly remember the *good old days* when freedom of religion for ALL was not only *tolerated* but was unquestioned, welcomed and encouraged here in the United States of America. 
Rush
What an evil, hateful, intolerant, ignorant person, but that explains the following he has with some on these boards. Birds of a feather stay together. Maybe it makes them feel more powerful somehow. If they weren't so hateful, I might even feel sorry for some of these poor misguided souls.
There seems to be an increasing movement of hate and intolerance in this country, wrapped around the Bible and the flag, neither of which is undeserving of such sacrilage by people who claim to love God and country.
It's becoming scarier every day to be an American who (1) might not belong to the "right" religion (no pun intended), (2) who thinks that Bush is taking us backwards in time, and (3) who supports our troops by wanting them to come home to their families safe, alive and intact, and to only be used when absolutely necessary, not at the whim of a president who has lies and who can't be trusted.
Rush is all over this, too. nm
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Rush is Right Again
Who said anything about Jesus? Maybe I'm a Jew!
If you go to Rush's w/s, you'll see his "official Obama criticizer," aka "Bo Snerdley."
And speaking of the Jews, it was a Dem. strategist who made the comment in FL that the Jews wouldn't vote for a black man. That may well be on Rush's w/s as well. Even Rush hadn't heard that one.
Y'all just make this way TOO easy too much fun for me!
Rush is Right
If you actually studied this stuff you'd know what you're talking about. Even Greta played the soundbyte of what he said. It was printed on his web page, and is probably still there.
I don't have time to get into having studied this literally all my life.
Regardless, if you think that having a Socialist in the White House is the answer and that border security means nothing, then vote away for one. Ironically, the person who wrote the book "Real Change" before Obama picked it up as his buzz word was Newt Gingrich. You may have no idea who he even is.
Try looking at JusticeOnTheBorder.com or EyesOnTheBorder.com if you want to compare what Obama & Clinton said about opening our flood gates even more as they pandered to all the illegals.
You probably also had no idea that he has over 20 million listeners daily. Literally nobody can touch him. When you're on top, they always try to topple you.
Rush is NO racist. Even so, there's no law against it, whether it be black against white, white against black, etc.
I can't even believe when read things like this.
Have a nice day.
Rush
I LOVE RUSH!! Rush's show is so informative and entertaining at the same time. At least we still have someone who tells the truth about our government.
Re: Rush
Rush is common sense, huh? Do you consider being a blatant racist common sense? He lets it be known that he hates minorities and women, and as far as he is concerned all women are brainless individuals who should not have rights. Do you truly consider what he spews as gospel? He is one of the most toxic media personalities I have ever had the misfortune to listen to as many others feel he is, and he offers nothing of value to the true COMMON SENSE American public. The citizens of this country, whether white, black, red, yellow need to be brought together to make a change, whether you like Obama or not, whether your party affiliation is Republican or Democrat. I look at our current state and it saddens me that these individuals whom we have entrusted have continually messed over us and we STILL believe what they say and do - look at what we have endured for the past eight years and will for years to come. It's criminal.
Rush Limbaugh sm
I stopped listening to him when he started calling us feminazis. I can't believe that big load of (expletive) is still allowed on the air. Not only is he ignorant, he's a hypocrite and a druggy and if he's trying to impress someone, it's not me.
You are losing it for us, Rush.
"Whether you agree with the fact that it's going on or not, we all have come to the decision that it's best that we win it. You haven't even joined us on that. You hope we lose it. You want to lose it because you want to embarrass the leaders of the country. What must your lives be like?"
First of all, there is no war to be won. Our enemy cannot be destroyed by brute force. Our enemy hides among the population, lives among the people. They have no strongholds we can attack, no supply lines we can cut, and no army we can outmatch and outgun on a traditional battlefield. We are fighting on their terms, but we have refused to acknowledge that. I ask you, what do you think Rush means when he talks about "winning the war in Iraq?" What does he envision as victory? The end of all violence against American targets? Complete and total peace? When Iraqis welcome our soldiers into their homes, and hug and kiss them in the streets? The insurgency is a disease. We have tried to destroy the infections that we have encountered, but we have not found a cure. We cannot prevent it, we cannot vaccinate against it. So long as American forces remain in Iraq, there can be no peace. You cannot convince the average Iraqi that we are there for his benefit, when his brothers have been killed by our soldiers, his home bombed by our planes, his life governed and monitored by our Army. So long as our soldiers patrol their streets, the Iraqis cannot be free, and the insurgency will continue. The hard truth is, the Bush administration does not know what to do in Iraq. They do not know how to achieve victory, because they do not know what victory should mean.
Leave Iraq. Bring our soldiers home. Apologize to the Iraqi people. Has anyone in the Bush camp ever thought of that? We are not fighting the Iraqi people as a whole. We are fighting various elements within the population. We owe the Iraqi people an apology, for invading their lives and killing their innocents (and because it was accidental does not excuse us from our responsibility). It is wrong to hate the Iraqi people. The vast majority of them are victims, caught in the crossfire. But the longer we remain in Iraq, the more noncombatants will join the insurgency, and become our enemies. The insurgents don't need to recruit new members; we are providing the people with reasons to join the fight against us, merely by doing what we are currently doing in their country. It is the propaganda that people like Rush spread that creates more and more hate, and makes it harder and harder to really and truly win the war in Iraq.
blowhard rush
But it is okay for the blowhard, Rush, to rag on people, lie about people, diss people? Make a joke about people and their struggles? The minute someone proves what Rush is all about and you freak out. Tell me, if the article by Olbermann about Rush is not true, why has Rush's transcript where he is putting down on Sheehan been removed from his website? Why has he denied stating derogatory remarks about Sheehan? He knows he did because we have it in the net and on video. You know, it bugs me that blowhards spout their hate and intolerance, bugs me for sure but it bugs me even more when you can't own up to your remarks. If he stated it, he needs to come clean and we all know he stated it, as the proof is in the net.
Rush's new bottom.
I do not listen to Rush but I saw this on television and read it in the paper. Michael J. Fox has done a commercial for the democrat running in Missouri who is pro stem cell research. He is obviously having a really bad day or his Parkinson's has progressed since I last saw him. Anyway, Rush said that Fox was **acting,** flailing all over the place, that he knew Fox had Parkinson's but that he has never seen any symptoms of it before this political ad. He said Fox might have stopped taking his medication so that he would flail around more, but if not, then he was acting. Unfrigging believable. I have seen Fox unable to sit still or stop moving many many times even while taking medication over the years. I think he was diagnosed in 1994 so 12 years later he has probably deteriorated quite a bit. This just struck me as so mean-spirited. Knocking the homeless, the mentally ill, etc. is one thing, disgusting in my opinion, but to accuse a sick man of faking it is snake belly low. People in glass pill bottles should not throw stones.
Now you know how Rush feels. sm
Only he really IS deaf.
Rush is a Band... nm
and he's a blow-hard.
Is Rush for real?
Did anyone hear R. Limbaugh's comments? I only caught part of it, but it sounded like he was talking about liberals as though we are satan or something. "You can't let them do this, or you can't let them do that". All the time saying "them" like it's a dirty word. Years ago I used to like him. Now he disgusts me. Now more than ever do we need a democrat president - just so I can see their faces and hear them whine.....oh wouldn't that be good.
You all have proven Rush right ...
no meaningful dialogue, just name-calling.
Rush Limbaugh
hero of the great unwashed said SP was a "babe", "could wear a skirt", had "definable ankles." I thought sexism was sexism whether complementary or derogatory. I'll know more after my bath.
Why the rush for the bailout
There Is No Crisis--Summary by: Chris BowersTue Sep 23, 2008 at 16:22
Things are getting a little suspicious about this crisis.
1) Why did the Bush administration suddenly declare a crisis during the final two weeks when Congress would be in session during his presidency? Is it maybe because, after the election, Congress would know it wasn't dealing with Bush anymore?
2) If this is such a sudden crisis, why is it that the Bush administration was drawing up the plan for this bill for months beforehand?
3) Why is it that Congress is supposed to bail out many banks and firms that are actually quite successful and profitable right now, and not just those that are failing?
4) Why is Paulson blatantly lying to Congress about oversight?
5) Where did the $700 billion figure come from?
6) Why is Paulson urging that debate on the matter be held after the legislation is passed?The burden of proof should always be placed on those who are demanding a huge government bailout, not upon those who are skeptical that one is needed. And yet the questions keep mounting, with no answers in sight.
I am not saying that there is no need for government intervention. I am saying that the case for a $700 billion bailout is far from having been made. Until the case is made, there is no need to go forward. We will elect a new President in 42 days. We swear in a new Congress in 103 days. What is the rush? Why does this all of a sudden need to be done while the Bush administration is still in charge? The case hasn't been made, and answers are slow in coming, if they come at all. Chris Bowers :: There Is No Crisis--Summary
In your rush to judgment,
the reason for the 2-day delay might have been family related, rather than campaign related? Obama's great-uncle and sister were in attendance when she was released from the hospital.
Like any other human being, he has brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles and cousins. Even in the most dyfunctional families and in those whose life circumstances keep them miles apart, often times they come together around a death bed to offer their support. His grandmother's 86th birthday is Sunday. Perhaps the timing had to do with coordinating his visit with the presence of other family who needed a day or 2 to "drop everything" and catch a plane. Who can really know the exact reason?
My prayer for Madelyn Dunham is that she has the strengh to hold on long enough to to turn 86 and to see her grandson be elected the next President of the United States. My guess is that she will be doing just that.
Rush Limbaugh
I'm surprised I haven't seen Rush Limbaugh's name mentioned on this board. Talk about a nut job!!
According to Rush, one voter who was
ex-military and had to push through the 2 of them earlier was told that the "black people were going to win the election."
Rush is a sensationalist....(sm)
The whole point of his show is to create controversy. Rush isn't just to the right....he's beyond right field. So, Gingrey had to grovel and apologize to Rush because he disagreed with him and ticked off his *base.* So, now we know who the *base* is. I was actually expecting that, and I personally hope it stays that way. It makes it easier for dems to win elections.
The funny thing to me is that Obama just mentioned Rush's name in what I took to be a joke. The pub party is so desparate for leadership that they took it to heart and managed to elevate Rush to a position of supposed power. Good luck defending Rush's background.....the drugs, the comments, etc.....ROFL.
Well...at least Rush is happy...LOL (sm)
That's a big show and tell for who's running the republican party. Heads up pubs, with this kind of leadership you could be going back to the gun totin' waterin' hole of the wild, wild west. You might want to bone up on your shootin' skills just in case ya have to rustle with them there dems. Yeee Haaww.....gov 'ment never done me no good. 
he's hiding from Rush! sm
Unless I missed something, I find it unbelievable that so many here either missed Rush on Saturday at CPAC. FNC ran it. I found out (as did Rush) that CNN streamed it, as did CSPAN. While I haven't looked any other places for what I've heard (and have known for years), Townhall.com has a plenty there.
Of course, the drivebys will still try to miss the boat on who conservatives are, either by stupidity or by wanting us to (continue to) appear as something we have never been. Of course, Rush has the entire transcript on his home page.
Where do the majority of these other posters around here get their news? Wow.
Rush telling it like it is...(sm)
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."
"The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit. "
"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire McCaskill for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research
"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?" --on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal
"And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs,
using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good
because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if
people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought
to be accused and they ought to be convicted and
they ought to be sent up."
"I am addicted to prescription pain medication."
"Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population.
Who the hell cares."
"One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the
homeless olympics...the 10-metre shopping cart relay,
the dumpster dig, and the hop, skip, and trip."
"The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them."
Awesome leader you have there!
I love Rush! He does tell it like it is!
xx
I did not say Rush & Co. leaked it.
Roger Hedgecock. Are you saying the Obama administration, who had no part in doing the study (these things take time folks) were intelligent enough to anonymously distribute it to someone in the blogosphere close enough it's epicenter to get noticed but not so far away that it would be discounted automatically? If so, you attribute far more intelligence to them than most of the posters here.
I have seen no outrage over the previous similar releases regarding rightwing extremists or the leftwing extremists or the Muslim extremists here before when those reports came out. Why the outrage now?
Looks like Rush is still in charge...LOL
Rush Limbaugh critic Kevin Stevenson ousted as Marathon County Republican Party spokesman
By Robert Mentzer • Wausau Daily Herald • June 2, 2009
The Republican Party of Marathon County has stripped its spokesman of his title less than three months after he wrote a column critical of conservative talk radio star Rush Limbaugh![](http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif") .
Kevin Stevenson said he believes his March guest column in the Wausau Daily Herald criticizing Limbaugh turned local party members against him.
"They felt I was too moderate in what I was speaking and printing," he said.
Stevenson, who characterizes himself as a "John McCain-type of Republican," said the conflict was a microcosm of a national debate about what political message to put forward. A debate at a local Republican meeting on Thursday "got hostile and it got personal," he said.
When Stevenson criticized Limbaugh for saying he wanted President Barack Obama to fail, other local Republicans wrote to the newspaper, arguing that conservatives ought to want Obama's policies to fail.
"This is just part of what you're seeing nationwide," he said. "(Party members) know that I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is hurting us more than helping us."
Kevin Hermening, the local Republican Party treasurer and a past president, said although Stevenson's columns were circulated among the party's executive committee, they did not always represent the views of most members.
“He was sharing a moderate view in his columns, which I think is terrific,” Hermening said. "If the leadership had wanted a more moderate position, we would have let him (continue)."
Stevenson, who lives in Lincoln County, was removed when the party adopted a new interpretation of residency -- but he said he considered that an excuse. Stevenson had previously been included because he owns land in neighboring Marathon County.
Party Chairman Joe Wachtel said he disagreed with the decision to remove Stevenson as spokesman, but that he also disagreed with a moderate position.
"I don't think the Republican Party and the conservative movement is going to be served by being Democrat-lite," Wachtel said.
___________________________
Side note: I wonder if Rush is going to kick Nancy Reagan out of the party since she said nice things about Pelosi......ROFL.
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh
I've heard Al Franken say this on a television interview. He repeated it in an interview with Geov Parrish at WorkingforChange.com (05/02/05) to which we can conveniently link:
GP: What do you think the differences are between you and Limbaugh?
AF: I'm glad you asked me that. I use this example a lot. A few months ago, Rush was talking about the minimum wage. Conservatives like to portray it that no one has to raise a family on the minimum wage, the only people who get the minimum wage are teenagers who want to buy an i-Pod. So Rush says, "75 percent of all Americans on the minimum wage, my friends, are teenagers on their first job." And one of the researchers brings this to me, with a smile, and I say, "Well, can you look it up?" And they look it up, the researcher goes to something called the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 60.1 percent of Americans on minimum wage are twenty and above. 39.9 percent, then, are either teenagers or below twelve (laughs). I had several jobs as a teenager, so you figure, what, 13 percent might be teenagers in their first job. Not 75 percent. So where did Rush get his statistic? Well, he got it directly from his butt. It went out his butt, into his mouth, out the microphone, into the air, into the brains of dittoheads. And they believe this stuff.
So we get our labor statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He gets his from the Bureau of Rush's Butt. And that's the difference. We don't do that. That's one of the main differences.
I posted it know what Rush Limbaugh said
I don't think I have wait for the liberal analysis of what Rush said. I was actually listening on the days he said all the things you referred to above, Of course, the so-called impoverished in this country are not the only ones with an obesity problem. Anyone who eats more calories than their body can burn on a daily basis will end up with an obesity problem it's not exclusive to race or class.
The UNICEF remarks were making fun of a U.N. charity program which, I believe, just last year was documented to be funneling money to Kofi Anan and his cohorts, but of course it was nicely swept under the rug. Actually, Rush was making fun of Sally Struthers for standing around truly starving people making us feel guilty for not sending money to UNICEF while she's standing there weighing all of 300 pounds herself, and I would bet my life she didn't miss a meal while doing that shoot.
That's not the point. I know what Rush said, because I heard what Rush said when he said it. It was satire whether you believe or not. Again, Rush does it, because he knows it will inflame liberals, and the PC crowd. He didn't talk about the bloated bellies of the starving people in the context you and the article want to spin it to be.
You don't get it, and I don't expect you to. I politely suggest you stick to Air America (for however long it remains on the air), and don't bother yourself with what Rush has to say, because when you call him or anyone else bloated or fat you are seriously defeating your own cause in being outraged that he called someone else fat.
The liberal double standards just don't fly anymore.
Correction: I posted it because I know what Rush said
Clarifying the subject line. It's been a long day.
Rush will forever be guilty. sm
The amount of hatred the left holds for Rush shows how very powerful he is. He tells it like it is and they can't stand it.
Whether Rush is disabled or not, who cares?...sm
He has positioned himself as a no holes barred blowhard showing his insensitivity to other's disabilities and now you are expected to come on here and be sensitive to his *disabilities* (like being an addict..ha). Like you said those in glass pill bottles (i.e., houses), should be careful to throw stones. He apologized, but has continued to justify his comments (any new news?)
Saw MJF in a news conference and he had tremors and to the audience he joked, *I'm not supposed to be talking to you unless I'm not shaking.*
He's chalked it up to ignorance and so should everyone else.
Rush may have a good point here.
From an email I got:
"Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one right on the head..........
By Rush Limbaugh:
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well , I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier kill ed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. (Actually, soldiers are put in harms way by politicians and commanding officers.)
We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.
You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?
However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement beca use they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
Rush has good insurance.
Nice to see Rush has good insurance. I bet he is up to at least 8 OxyContin a day. On H & C tonight, he was higher than usual. He says, "I protect children under 12 years old and "seasoned citizens". How do you season a citizen? Salt? Pepper? Garlic Salt? Then fast forward and he says, all the "womens" will vote for Hilliary, he corrected himself and said "women". It really, really scares me to think people actually listen to him. By the way, Pakistan is ablaze tonight.
Yeah, Fox and Rush are bad words?
I get sick of hearing that all the time. I guess you could say I am a person sort of in the middle, more conservative than liberal, but I do look at EACH issue when deciding who I feel is the best candidate. Before Fox was around, were there ANY middle-of-the-road TV news networks? And, by the way, to act as if Fox is strictly conservative/republican is so unfair. I watch different networks. Fox happens to give views from all sides, not just the left, therefore, they are a bunch of republicans? gee... Well, someone is watching them since they seem to kill the other cable networks most of the time in the ratings.
And... Hillary, I personally thought I could never stand you, but "you go girl"! She never gives up. There are times I think the Clintons go too far (well, many times), but you can't say she is not tough. She is NOT just Bill's wife.
Oh, and almost forgot, I would never argue that Rush Limbaugh is not a conservative all the way... he most definitely is. However, for a long time, radio seemed the only outlet for conservative talk? I mean, TV and of course the major newspapers were all liberal media. Liberal radio shows have not done very well, thus the "fairness doctrine". That is ridiculous. It things don't go your way.. "there must be a law to make this fair...waaaah waaaah" I guess that is a reason why I tend to be more right than left. I prefer the govt stay out of my life as much as possible.
Also, I am with Sam about a comment on the board about healthcare. I work in the healthcare industry (not just MT work). Sure, we have our problems, but I hear so many horror stories about people in other countries not being able to get care, and would do just about anything to get to the USA for treatment. For you people who want to move to Canada, well, I have friends there. Their wait time to see doctors, to have testing done.... probably 4 to 5 times our wait. I am not talking days, but sometimes many months.
Not being nasty - it's true. Her and Rush like their
saying something you think is incorrect. The FACT is --- she's a druggie!!
Rush rocks. He just informed us
that President Bush's applauses & Fred Thompson's speech were apparently edited out or ignored from MSLSD (NBC) and CBS. If that's the case, how responsible is that? That's as bad as MQ being the only MTSO out there, period.
Fred Thompson was incredible last PM. I suppose I'll have to dig that one out for those who think the news is on the drive-by channels like these.
That's certainly not to diminish Joe Lieberman's speech. Even when he was running for VP, the GOP wouldn't go "after him," only challenge the issues. He's a perfect example of a liberal who puts country before party. Frankly, it's impossible to dislike the man, regardless of what side he's on.
You must be listening to Rush/Hot Air America.
I would say, then that the jury is still out, but I do remember SP introducing her husband as the "man she admires most in the whole world." Also, I have read several other sources nonpartisan sources discussing her support for Alaska's succession from the union fringe movement. She will have a great night, as any debutante at her "coming out." Polls may or may not bump for a day or 2. Nontheless, these issues, as they pile up, will find their way to the light of day. Not lookin' real good in terms of country first.
obviously Bill O'Reilly or Rush
Humboldt is spoon feeding the FOLKS this federal reserve nonsense. Sign. Blink. Startle. Jerk.
I know that lot of people hate Rush, but this is his take. sm
Rush Limbaugh is reporting that phone calls to Capitol Hill arerunning 10-to-1 AGAINST the Bogus Bailout.
And I think that it is absolutely unconscionable that the people who got us into this mess are expecting us to clean up after them. I DID NOT bite on an ARM and I DID NOT buy more house than I could afford. So why do I have to pay for people who haven't got the good sense of a head of lettuce?
I say vote them all out of office and then write in "None of the Above."
If Mrs. M thinks Fox is illegal and Rush too, obviously she's not for...
free speech, and that is Marxism, socialism, and communism.
The fairness doctrine is fair only to the far left media.
All your civil liberties will go down the tubes, and obama supporters could care less.
Ignorance at its finest.
Rush Limbaugh's response
Rush Responds to Democrat E-mail Petition Against Him:
"I am greatly puzzled. Why would the Democrats petition against me if I am doing such terrible damage to the GOP?
Rush...the new pub king....ROFL (sm)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/28/phil-gingrey-gop-congress_n_161964.html
LOL...That's because Rush doesn't know what *correct* is....(sm)
I don't put too much stock into the opinions of a drug addict, much less one who just spouts out anything for the sake of ratings. You guys just love Rush with his proven background, and yet you jump on the Obama bashing train every chance you get just to spread rumors. Hmmmm....
Rush followers are actually referring to themselves as..(sm)
dittoheads. See link for definition.....ROFL
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dittohead
I just keep in mind that it could always be worse. I could be living in Texas.
Rush is the biggest hypocrite EVER
I so agree with you He is such a hypocrite! He can't practice what he preaches. Don't go quoting him on here like he is a reasonable person.
Not only a hypocrite, but a criminal. He took drugs that were not prescribed for him. But if anyone he didn't like did that, he would do a slow roast of their character.
He's a liar and a hypocrite, not the voice of reason.
Actually, I was TRYING to hide from Rush; impossible because...sm
like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can. You know, it is ironic that Rush could be a lying, hypocritical pill-popper addict AND still be the messiah of the Republican Right. Were he a Dem or Independent, there is NO WAY that stuff would have EVER been forgotten/forgiven, no way. Just because we are not listening to the rantings of a hypocritical, press-hunting, pompous, loud, obnoxious BS'er like Rush does not mean we "don't get the real news"....on the contrary, I think it shows we do, and we can read between the lines and interpret with intelligence. JMHO, putting on my flame-retardant suit.
Please - Rush is NOT a leader of the pubs!!!
At least not in my opinion and many others that I've talked to and chatted with on here. He's a voice, but only one of many, just like the dems have Pelosi and Olberman and Charles "Americans don't care about the pork" Schumer. So please stop with the whole Rush is our leader and we blindly follow.
Shades of ......Rush Limbaugh!
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