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defending Bush no matter what. There are a lot of things that I don't agree with Bush on as well. I think both parties need a good cleaning out. I'm not a Cheney fan either but I do get what he is saying. If they want to let out part of those memos....let them all out so we know what happened and what we got in return that may or may not have benefited. How are we to know for sure if only half of this is opened up and looked at. You have pubs lying and dems lying alike. If the dems want the pubs to go down.....then the dems involved should go down with the ship as well. I'm tired of the double standards and the finger pointing.

However, I still say this is all best left alone until after our troops are home. It does no good for anyone to have us fighting amongst ourselves at home and releasing information that could endanger our troops even more than they are.

I also don't really think that our tactics as far as treatment of prisoners should be out there for all to see because, like I said before, what is the point of anything if terrorists know they are going to be treated well with no threat to their life. They would have no reason to spill the beans. They would just have to be patient until they got out.

I'm not here defending the GOP and Bush and Cheney. However, I personally see nothing wrong with waterboarding in an attempt to save lives.

Obviously this is something that you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on. As per my research and understanding, terrorists are not covered under the Geneva Convention and therefore Bush didn't order anything unlawful in that instance. But seriously....this is something that should be investigated after our troops are home and safe. I don't think Bush is worth putting our troops at higher risk.

any promises to the gay and lesbian community. He himself is against same sex marriage.

As for this healthcare BS.....when it comes to pass and it isn't as great as he professed it to be and we are getting taxed out of the ying yang to pay for it....I'm sure many will be ready to get rid of Obama and any fellow cronies on the dem party. So don't count your chickens before they hatch.

As for the promises he has broken. Gitmo is still open. We are still in Iraq and now in Afgan. He promises he wouldn't raise taxes on 95% of Americans which is a downright lie especially if he is going to pay for this healthcare plan of his. He said lobbyists wouldn't have a place in his administration and yet he appointed some. Obama is nothing but a liar. The reason a lot of people still love Obama is because the mainstream media continues to portray Obama as doing no wrong. If some of these people would actually pay attention to what is going on and actually do a little research as well as lay off the kool-aid.....I'm sure more people would not be satisfied with Barry.

Why is it you are the only ones who are "free" to display your anger on your board?

If you take a look at the posts on this board, the only time they get nasty is when a troll from your board comes here and begins spewing your hatred and rage.

Whenever a liberal raises an issue concerning a Bush administration policy or decision, I seldom see an intelligent thoughtful response come from most of you. Instead you attack the poster on a personal level when that poster never personally attacked YOU. They complained about Bush. Are you BUSH??

Time and time again, most of you come back with "all liberals" insults and rarely, if ever, address the question or issue that was raised.

If you can begin to understand that it isn't YOU PERSONALLY that we are referring to, maybe then we can begin to have an intelligent conversation on this board.

If you are a conservative, I respect your right to your opinions, and I'd like to learn more about them. I can't do that if all you do is throw insults, which you are "free" to do on your board, but if we are angered or insulted by them, we are not likewise "free" to express that.

I had hoped that these new boards would eliminate the personal favorites that seemed to exist on the other board. Looks like that isn't the case.

And as far as approaching the administrator about fairness, if I can't do that, then I truly don't belong in a forum like this one. I belong in one that doesn't play favorites, where intelligent discourse can occur, where personal insults and attacks are prohibited for everyone, not just for some.

the higher gasoline/oil prices get and the harder it becomes to be able to AFFORD to be an American, the angrier they become and the more they troll?

Poor babies. They can't focus their anger and rage at Bush because then they'd have to admit that they voted for an idiot, and, just like Bush, there's no way they can ever admit they're wrong. So they have to come here and attack us instead.

I think the more the Republican party falls apart, the more difficulty they have affording even the most basic of necessities, the more bitter, angry, hateful trolling is likely to be inflicted upon us.

The "drive-bys" are so incredibly in the tank with Baroma! The lovefest has been far more nauseating than it ever was with Clinton.

How sad it is that McCain (who frustrates the krud out of me often times) is supposed to "hide" the fact that he was tortuored by those who wanted to destroy us for five LONG years? The enemy has changed, but their hatred of America has only worsened.

It's very likely that if Baroma wins that he'll be the first to be tested (like W was on 9/11). It could also certainly happen to McCain, but it's quite safe to say how he'd handle another 9/11 type situation. Sadly,this should give everyone a jolt: "Karachi Kids."

the cartoon in the New York Post? Yeah, that's one of the papers owned by Rupert Murdoch -- the same guy that owns Fixed Noise.

CEO first. Obama, like most democrats, are all about unions. I do believe Obama still wants to give unions more control by getting rid of secret ballots, etc. The only reason Obama threw the UAW under the bus was because there was really no other option. Intelligent people know that UAW killed GM and we also know that Obama would stand behind them until there was no hope because so many democrats get campaign money from unions. He wouldn't stab them in the back unless he had no other choice. There is no just no other option for GM. They need to file bankruptcy and restructure things.

My father worked for GM for 30+ years as a salvage worker. He always said that the union did nothing but protect p!ss poor employees from getting fired. They paid all that money into union dues and they never got anything out of it. Unions are nothing but greed and corruption and all they do is push democratic rhetoric while using the money they receive to back democrats in their campaigns.

You ASSUME I am a republican? I am simply stating that I saw it on something and suddenly made that connection. Further reading online there are many others - dems and reps - that have made that same conclusion - it's weird.

Don't read anything else into it and it sounds to me like you think you know where I stand, but you don't know anything about me, so keep your "labels" to yourself. I could make a deduction about who you are voting for, but I won't ASSUME anything. After all, I don't know you.

I just think it's because the stocks were so low yesterday that it was a buyer's market.

Palin (and now her daughter) is actively seeking press coverage and has been ever since the election. In other words, she WANTS to be in the news. She obviously is campaigning for 2012, and that makes her a relevant story.

We've been through this time and time again. What part of this do you not understand?

My daughter is very conservative and we believe only left-wing nutcases get lip injections. There. Now it's political.

You know, it's a crying shame that your every day run of the mill bank robber has to be turned away because banks don't have the cash on hand to support him.
What has America come to?

FDIC�s Bair warns on bank deposit insurance fund

Associated Press

March 4, 2009, 12:35PM

WASHINGTON � The head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Has warned that the fund insuring Americans� bank deposits could be wiped out this year without the money the agency is seeking in new fees from U.S. Banks and thrifts.

FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair acknowledged, in a letter to bank CEOs, that the new increased fees and hefty emergency premium the agency voted to levy last week will bring a �significant expense� to banks, especially amid a recession and financial crisis when their earnings are under pressure.

�We also recognize that assessments reduce the funds that banks can lend in their communities to help revitalize the economy,� Bair wrote.

But given the accelerating bank failures that have been depleting the deposit insurance fund, she said, it �could become insolvent this year.�

�Without substantial amounts of additional assessment revenue in the near future, current projections indicate that the fund balance will approach zero or even become negative,� Bair wrote in the letter dated Monday to the chief executives of the nation�s 8,305 federally insured banks and thrifts.

The industry, especially smaller community banks, has said the new insurance fees will place an extra burden on an already struggling sector. A federal banking regulator said last week the new premiums will unfairly burden smaller banks that didn�t contribute to the financial crisis with reckless lending.

As loan defaults have soared, reflecting the ravages of rising unemployment and sliding home prices, bank failures have cascaded and sapped billions out of the fund that insures regular accounts up to $250,000. The fund now stands at its lowest level in nearly a quarter-century, $18.9 billion as of Dec. 31, compared with $52.4 billion at the end of 2007.

The FDIC now expects that bank failures will cost the insurance fund around $65 billion through 2013, up from an earlier estimate of $40 billion. There have been 16 bank collapses already this year, following 25 in 2008 � which included two of the biggest savings and loans, Washington Mutual Inc. And IndyMac Bank.

The new insurance fees are meant to raise $27 billion this year to replenish the fund.

Bair said the plan protects bank depositors as well as taxpayers, because it likely means the FDIC won�t have to go to the Treasury Department and tap public money to replenish the insurance fund.

Bair has not ruled out that possibility for a short-term loan, but said she doesn�t expect to take the more drastic action of using its $30 billion long-term credit line with Treasury � something that has never been done.

�Some have suggested that we should turn to taxpayers for funding,� she said in her letter to the bank executives. �But banks � not taxpayers � are expected to fund the system, and I believe Congress would look skeptically on such a course of action.�

Furthermore, she said, turning to taxpayers �could open up a whole new debate about the degree of government involvement in the affairs of insured banks.�

The FDIC plan puts new charges on a battered industry while the Obama administration is seeking to pump as much as $750 billion in additional federal aid into ailing banks under its financial rescue plan. The FDIC, as a regulatory agency charged with protecting the insurance fund, acts independently from the administration.

The new emergency premium, to be collected from all federally insured institutions on Sept. 30, will be 20 cents for every $100 of their insured deposits. That compares with an average premium of 6.3 cents paid by banks and thrifts last year.

The FDIC also raised the regular insurance premiums for banks to between 12 and 16 cents for every $100 in deposits starting in April, up from a range of 12 to 14 cents.

I did notice this also and never did before. Can anyone recall? nm

FDIC�s Bair warns on bank deposit insurance fund

Associated Press

March 4, 2009, 12:35PM