I do disagree about not wanting to give to those who CAN'T work. sm
Posted By: About giving - not repub/not dem on 2008-09-23
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My sister had brain damage from birth and has never been able to keep a job. She is able to live on her own, but she barely survives. Our mother, who is retired, took a part-time job to continue to take care of my sister. What happens when my mother can't do that anymore or dies? I guess it will be my turn to take care of my sister. What about people who don't have anyone to do that for them? Do you realize the meager amounts people are given right now barely enable them to survive? You (poster below complaining about giving to those who can't/won't/don't work) would not be able to survive. You obviously have no idea what hunger feels like or what it is like to go to bed at night as a child with no dinner, no snack, and hope for breakfast the next morning. I will most certainly give to those who can't work.
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If socialism doesn't work - then why did W give the banks all that $$?
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No, curious as in wanting to know...
and it is obvious what you are "compelled" to do.
Not as scary as someone wanting to...
figure out "which factions are involved" before acting (when asked about AL Qaeda).
And I am sure Obama can emphathize with the statement "clumsy word choices" this morning.
That's right. I'm funny that way, wanting to keep
It's called logical thinking. Try it sometime - you'll like it!
My opinion - Not wanting to debate -- SM
Honestly, I believe that two things are going on here:
1) The American people do not have the absolute truth -- neither from the media nor from any government branch nor the President, any committee, etc. The whole truth about any issue has never been put out there.
2) MOST, not all, but MOST people do no really want truth. For people to have truth, they have to be responsible for accepting it (in which USUALLY - not always - is in conflict with how they are currently living and they just don't want the conscience about their own actions) or the responsibility for acting on it. People do not want to have to DO anything; they want others to do it for them. People do not want to have to make changes in their life; they want others to make those changes. People do not want to have ownership of where they could better be involved with their own community, government, country - they want others to do that.
Without the truth and the willingness to accept it for whatever it is, the American people will never have a stable ground to make the next progressive step.
I would say the next issue at hand would be that people simply have different priorities. I'm not referring to the choices we are actually making in our lives, but in what we are saying we want our government to provide, obtain, offer, and protect for us. I see many people SAYING they want the government to "do something" about an issue; however, these very people do not make that choice for themselves personally. Example: I know MANY people who want "the government" to "do something" about the violence and sex on TV, music, etc. However, those same people attend R-rated movies and buy them at Wal-Mart and bring them into their homes, and think some of the roughest or raciest shows are fabulous. It's a contradiction. They do not want to be personally responsible, but they want to demand that others and the government make provisions.
This is just one example of many where I see a contradiction in what we SAY we want and what we are willing to actually be self-responsible for.
Wanting the whole truth is fanatical?
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Since when did wanting to see ALL Americans prosper
Are you telling me that it is a an either/or situation? In other words, the American dream is only available to those who are willing to setp over their fellow citizens to grab it? If that's the case, sign me up for a little socialism. Sheesh.
Pathetic is not wanting to know the truth
FOS back at you - whatever it means. I'm sure it's not nice.
Can someone tell me why everyone says Obama is wanting the elderly to die?
I keep reading posts about letting elderly people die. I did not get to listen to the speech last night, so I do not know what the subject matter was concerning this point and would like to know.
Thanks!
Wanting truth and accountability = hatred?sm
Dissent, not loyalty to the almighty State is patriotic.
Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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Maybe, but with most terrorists wanting to see Barack elected, that
Wonder why they want him elected so much?
another liberal wanting money...waaaa....nm
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Wanting to see W and his party bite the dust
half (and probably more like 60%) of Americans seem to share. By your (il-)logic, that makes them all jihadists? At least 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died behind W's war of lies. We are making air strikes into 2 other soverign nations in the midst of a tanking republican presidential campaign. Ever hear of a war of attrition...the kind that wears down a nation from the inside because of the economic drain it places on its population? From where I sit, W played right into the hands the terrorist dealt. Continuation of such saber-rattling imperialism makes terrorist predictions a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Bombing countries into democracy, illegal occupations, kangaroo trials and lynching of leaders who do not bend to US will which fail to follow their OWN rule of law, military presence in defiance of overwhelming popular mandates that seek to take back control of their own country, flagrant disregard for human rights, clandestine interrogations, torture and humiliation of POWs not afforded the benefit of a trial, selective stateside vote suppression that overwhelming favors the party that is on its way out and the litany of other such violations of our historic basic principles make a MOCKERY of our own claims to be the greatest democracy on the face of the earth.
Live by example. It's simple. If we are not able to live up to and be accountable for our own basic tenants, we will self-destruct with or without any help from FUTURE leaders.
Personally, lately....I've been wanting to smack....sm
my husband up the side of the head.
He's been saying for weeks that now's the time to buy, and that if we had extra money in our accounts, he'd do it....just this morning, he said he's buy tons of Citigroup, GM, and Ford, as if you do, and hold onto it long enough, you could make a killing.
Needless to say, though....we don't have enough to do this at the moment....he refuses to buy on margin, so we'll just sit here and watch the stock markets.
Now IS the time to buy, though, that's very, very true......
And I still disagree. We shall agree to disagree. But....
welome to the board! A new voice is welcome, whichever side the voice decides to fall. :)
Not honoring her son by wanting answers, and speaking what she knows he felt.sm
He joined the army in 2002 before the Iraqi war began, so it's plenty possible he didn't agree with the Iraqi war.
No logical thinking person would have thought that Bush would focus his attention after 9-11 on Iraq.
Just had a friend last night wanting to use my extra bedroom -
NO WAY - would rather take on 10 extra jobs than let somebody else stay in my house with me again....
have tried it and tried it and it never works...
People wanting less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled......sm
Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:
On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for the patriotic, idea-based resistance.
Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."
There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.
There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.
http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.
Ok, off my soapbox.
i agree. of course, the white male would be called a racist too for not wanting a minority to succed
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Disagree..sm
It takes a heartless person to say that the 9-11 widows are doing this for money. WHAT MONEY??? The insurance policy? Stop kidding yourself. Losing a love one and gaining an insurance policy is not everyones object of affection. This is the same effect of a mother losing her child to a drowning and then pushing for swiming safety, or victim of a sex predator pushing for tougher sex laws.
As far as Hillary, I think she is just as outraged as anyone else should be at Ann's comments, and the fact that Ann gets media coverage to tout this stuff is just as mind numbing.
All you said about Ann I agree, plus add hatred, evil, and prejudice and you have her pegged.
disagree here also
Colter is a hatemonger, thats all. I heard every hour of AL Franken's program and he never said anything outrageous like she/it. Al Franken was quite witty and entertaining and merely give his listeners the facts that were suppressed elsewhere. He was on the story about Asian factory workers forced to have abortions by their American bosses way before other outlets were discussing it. Really!! Stop trying to pull the wool ....
I would have to disagree with you.
No surprise there right?
I would like to note that all social reform to take place in the United States has been at the heels of a liberal movement. From our breaking off with Britain in the mid 1700s, to civil war in the mid 1800s, and the liberal movement of the mid 1960s. Liberalism as a belief has moved from Republican to Democrat and back again more than once. Taking your stance on pro-life and moving it to the time of mid 1800s would put you for all intents and purposes under the Democratic wing.
As the saying goes, complacency breeds contempt, and I believe that we are now in the beginnings of another liberal movement. A little quicker than our 100 year mark, but with the speed that the world is changing, so must we.
We as a people and government have to embrace change, that is the true nature of liberalism.
Realistically, your views/postings justify the label. You may not wish it, but by just expressing them promotes it. The fact that you have never mentioned the remote possibility of voting Democrat, which at this point in our history leans toward the liberal, and only looking at the Republican party is labeling. If you did not want to be labeled or wish not to be, you wouldn't be so quick to make your conservative opinions heard.
As I frequently tell my husband, if you get too caught up in the details, you will lose the bigger picture, which usually leads me to telling him that he gets in his own way more often than not. 
I disagree
First these are pics of him NOT in his uniform. True, there are some pics of him in his uniform in some of the ads, but others he is in civilian clothes. It gives me the same feeling as when I went to the health food store and spent $50 for a large can of protein powder and got got home and the can was half empty. I call it "deception". I also think by reminding us of his time in the service he is reminding us that he was a POW and he's got a grudge against people in other countries and he's going to use his position for revenge. That's what I see when I'm reminded of his uniform.
Second - his mind. No it's not a cheap shot, its the truth. Everytime he speaks he misstates himself. When talking about the countries at work he gets the different countries mixed up and has got to constantly be correct by Lieberman or others standing around him. When asked about his voting record on important issues he can't remember how he voted and he even stated so. One time he said "I can't remember how I voted on that issue". It was an important issue and I looked at my DH and said what does he mean he can't remember, how would you forget something like that. So I think the state of his mind is an important factor in whether I will vote for him.
As for Obama...I was not talking about Obama in my post. I was talking about McCain, but since you brougnt it up, sure there are things I may not like about him but his speaking ability and remembering important issues are not one of them. Saying he can't make speeches without a teleprompter or planned statement is just not true. He has spoken at several events without a teleprompter or prepared speeches and he can think on his feet just fine. I didn't hear him stumble over questions given by audience members or media. I'm sure you probably heard that from some conservative programs like Fox or Rush Limbaugh.
i must disagree
I have read many of his columns. He is a right wing extremist.
Disagree....
...and really, just have to laugh out loud.
Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Just wait and watch.
Every time, every person, be in on Obama's own team, Obama himself, Biden, or you for that matter....say that she has no experience....
Well guess what? She has more leadership experience than Obama.
She has been in charge and running a government.
She has been the governor of Alaska since 2006.
She was the mayor of a city, Wasilla, Alaska.
So I ask you. How can you, or anyone out there, sit there and say she has no experience to be VP....when you have a candidate running for President who has even less experience for her.
Explain that one to me.
And while you're doing that, think about how bad Obama will look every single time anyone, anywhere, brings up her lack of experience....as that will only highlight and reinforce his own, sadly lacking leadership background and experience.
Disagree. sm
I feel the reason New Orleans went under was because the National Guard, tanks, etc. were all in Iraq.
Doesn't it bother you that Palin actually said, her son was going to Iraq to fight the people that attacked us? Clueless.
I agree that McCain is a war hero, so is my dad, but he certainly is not qualified to be President.
I have to disagree with you on that.
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and I disagree with you so
maybe we both will be kicked off too for disagreeing.
Sam does research before posting an answer to some of the statements told here, then posts the links so we can all see what is the truth, not just a few. Anyone who cares anything about this country would do the same. It's not rocket science. The problem is some people on this board don't care to listen. They're right and everybody else is wrong.They think sam is attacking them personally, when he/she is not, just stating FACTS, not untruths.
Sorry, OT, but I must disagree
The liberal media would be analyzing his choice till the cows came home.
Well, I disagree. s/m
Did you miss the part where he said, "I'm the decider."? His old buddy Richard (message says *ick is a bad word.........well, on that we can agree) is guilty right along with him. I do not think history will be kind to him. But then it WAS kind to FDR until the republicans came out with their "study" to excuse the fact that Hoover was, before Bush, acknowledged to be the worst president in history.
I say while you're putting Palin on her dogsled back to Alaska, hitch up a couple of longhorns and point Bush and Cheney back to Texas. Trouble is I don't think Texas wants them.
Again, you and I disagree.
While I do not agree with you, I do respect your right to your opinion.
disagree, because
McCain has plenty of energy to get the job and more done; and Palin has more experience than even Obama... Yes, our govn't has lots of checks and balances, but if you put a democratic pres in, with a democ house and democ senate, you have a steamroller effect and dem's have not been very good about 'reaching across the aisle'. Besides, some of the "changes" that may occur in an obama reign may take decades to un-do (appointments of judges for example) and if it makes our country more unsafe and we suffer an enemy attack, that's irreparable damage to lives, and longterm for economy, etc. What about all the jobs lost with his economic (so-called:) plan, and taxation which will hurt small business and cost jobs? (100% of job growth has been in small business) How many more will lose homes, etc under Obama after losing their jobs? How screwed up will our healthcare system become? No, i want a safe USA, i want a stable growing economy, etc and will vote McCain.
I disagree
McCain is not throwing people off his bus because they don't report him in a good light.
McCain is not banning newspaper interviews because they ask him serious questions.
McCain is not banning networks because they ask him serious questions.
The O is doing all of this.
Just because I disagree with you...
does not make me any more closed minded than you apparently are. It is painfully obvious that neither one of is interested in what the other has to say. If you are not interested in debating with me, you could have just ignored my post. I would not, however, count on those greener pastures.
I disagree
What the president elect does in the days prior to his inauguration is important in terms of choosing his staff, etc, but we're not all as enamored of him as some of you, to want to sit googly-eyed in front of the TV and watch his every photo op.
The important points of his pre-inauguration decisions can be covered in the news or newspaper. I think a lot of us still watch the news and read the newspaper.
Anyone can disagree
with one another. That is human nature. I can respect someone that can give point and counter point without getting nasty. There is no need for name calling or veiled side of the mouth comments. I would love a decent conversation with others whose opinions are or are not always the same as mine.
I have to disagree..........sm
With the government overseeing and directing healthcare to the point that a doctor cannot treat a patient the way that patient needs to be treated, it will be much worse. This measure would also discourage or possibly prohibit the development of new medications and new therapies that could, for instance, cure cancer (or the common cold, which the way I have felt for the past 3 weeks, wouldn't be a bad thing). It could also prohibit the treatment of patients with too many comorbid conditions. Would you want your doctor to tell you that he can't treat your mother for cancer because she has Alzheimer disease and she's terminal anyway? Would you want your child who has cystic fibrosis denied treatment of leukemia because the cystic fibrosis is terminal? Personally, I don't want the government taking over my healthcare, regardless of how much money it might save me.
Disagree
Where are you coming up with this stuff? That doesn't make any sense at all. Boy, are we in trouble with this kind of nonsense.
I disagree with you.
I have owned Ford, Chrysler, Chevy, American Motors, Rambler, etc. I have been a fan of Oldsmobilie and Buicks since We bought our first one back in the 80s.
GM's problem is they stopped producting the good cars. I was on their website today. No Olds, only 2 Buicks left. They only produce expensive gas guzzlers like Cadillacs, Saab, and Hummers.
Our LeSabre got 30 mpg and still running strong at 175,000. Shame the rest of the car is not good enought to pass inspection. Same with our Olds. Are they producing them? Nope. Why? They were mid-priced cars with great reliability, great gas mileage, and I like to say popular with middle class people. They now only product the LaCrosse and Lucerne in the Buick line. They don't even produce the Park Avenue which was a luxurious car and one I always wanted (champagne tastes on a beer budget - LOL).
I won't be buying a new car from GM. There's nothing there I like. They should have thought about phasing out more of the expensive lines than the middle class lines. That's where they went wrong. They probably thought if they stuck to the expensive models, they'd make more money. WRONG!!! They didn't take into consideration the ratio between middle class buyers and upper class buyers.
As for Chrysler, I owned 2. They were lemons from the get-go. Hubby owned a couple Fords and they were not very reliable either.
I must disagree with you on this one.
At least the part about Obama being the best thing that has ever happened to us. I don't think that is true at all. I think he has wasted more money spending in such a short time that I hope and pray we don't have him for 8 years. 4 is long and bad enough.
I disagree with you.
The only reason Aunt Louise mentioned how hot it is going to get was to further her religious agenda. She was not referring to global warming in her post, she was referring to what she believes will happen to those who do not hold her same religious beliefs.
By the way, I have never said or implied in any way that posters are not entitled to their own opinion, whether it differs with mine or not. Every person who posts on MTStars is entitled to express their opinion and agree or disagree with the opinions of other posters.
Sorry, but I so disagree with this.
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if you disagree
Don't marry someone the same sex as you. I think it is a wonderful thing whenever 2 people that love each other make a commitment to be wed.
OMG. I disagree!
Either way, I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DISAGREE! Rick Warren also disagrees and it should be 1 man and 1 woman when it comes to marriage.
I disagree too!
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I disagree.....
For most blacks in this country (those that voted for him) it is about nothing but the fact that he is black...... plain and simple and I have had them tell me that!
No. I disagree, a
big thing, no.
Last not least it is an office. Imagine everybody would bring his supersized flag alont into the office.
BTW,
No. I disagree. she cannot do this,
because it is an OFFICE.
A 'little' flag on her desk, o.k., but not a supersized thing, no.
Last not least it is an office. Imagine everybody would bring his supersized flag into the office.
Her supervisor did not agree with the supersize of the flag.
BTW, I find this part of your comment
..'Maybe her visa/citizen-ship papers need to be reviewed. Perhaps she would be less "offended" if she were to go back where she came from...'
extremely nasty, imposing and intruding and even against the constitution.
Her supervisor is, most probably, alredy for a long time an American citizen, with all the rights and duties.
You have nor right, at all, to make such a remark.
It is people like you Obama is referring to when he mentions that Americans are 'arrogant.'
BTW,
No, not something I disagree with.
Something God disagrees with. He has used lots of people to wage wars and kill others. Try reading your Bible. Just because abortion is legal doesn't make it right. Men make bad laws. It doesn't coincide with God's law. That makes it wrong on all counts. I'm not ok with any murder, but maybe God isn't ok with it. The doctor performed murder... legally. Doesn't mean what he did was right. If you live with evil people, you may suffer along with them when bad things happen to them. My God is a loving God who will dole out vengeance to those who disobey. Believe what you want. That is what He says.
You have a point but I disagree with the other
The age 18 issue was an issue decided decades before this administration. Not that I drink or care anything about drinking I do think that the issue of military service and drinking is a valid one.
Now, about signing up for the military, when you sign up for the military you are signing up to go WHEREVER you are ordered to. After you enlist you don't have a say in the matter It doesn't matter if you agree with the current president or agree with the current war. When you sign up you agree to go wherever the government sends you. Without a draft the decision to enlist is ENTIRELY up to you. If you have political problems with going to war at any place, anytime, and under any political circumstances you should exercise your right not to enlist.
My point to you is if you're old enough to a make decision about mind altering substances then you are old enough to make an adult decision which may require you to put your life in jeopardy. Military service and drinking require adult decision making processes, and if you can't live with the consequences of doing either then you should do neither. Works both ways.
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