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I do not hate poor people!

Posted By: Chele on 2008-10-15
In Reply to: Have you always been this hateful toward the poor? - McCain camp rhetoric that clearly indicates...sm

I do, however, have a problem with people who could work but would rather live off of the government.  There are a lot of those kinds of people out there.  They could better themselves but they just won't.  The ones who can't help their situation....I have no problem helping them.  But it is the low life scum sucking weasels who just want handouts that ruin it for the people who truly need help and Obama's plans would just enable these weasels to keep being losers.


All these government plans are gonna cost money and yet Obama is supposed to give us all tax cuts.....where he is going to get that money if he if cutting all of our taxes.  who is footing the bill....huh?  Cuz I sure as sh!t know that Barry Obama isn't gonna pay for it all on his own.




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Where on earth in this post do you get I hate blacks, Dems, or the poor?
I was quoting the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin..who is black, and a Democrat, though not poor. Did I say I didn't like mayor Nagin? I am just saying he is acting a whole lot differently than he did during Katrina. And from that you get that I hate blacks, dems, and the poor? The dem talking points don't really fit this post...??? Now I am confused.

I don't hate Dems. I just don't agree with them. And I don't understand how they can say they are the party of the people and want to fight so hard for freedom of choice and individual rights, and then turn on one lone poster like a pack of snarling dogs for disagreeing with them. Don't you think what the party is supposed to stand for and the way theones on this board are acting is even SLIGHTLY contradictory?? lol
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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Poor people are not the only ones
so blaming obesity on the left IS the joke. Rush isn't poor is he? What about Cheney and Rove? I am well aware of the report he was referring to (I read it too) but describing *bloated tummies* and Unicef is sick and I don't see how anyone can call it satire. Further, what difference would it make if the link worked? You jumped to his defense without even knowing what the article said.






Unfortunately, there are not enough people willing to give to the poor!
Greed is rampant in this country and as the greedy saying goes, "charity begins at home." Therefore, something must be done to help those who are unable to help themselves. If people need to be forced to give, so be it. Whether they are blessed for it or not is of no concern to me. Call it whatever you want, I call it human decency!
I did not say welfare people - I said the poor -
I am sorry, but I consider most single parents poor - myself included. I do not think that 25,000-30,000 makes me middle class - I call that poor in this day and time. It sure as heck ain't getting my any frills in this life...

I am saying that the more money people have right now though, the more they are saving because they are worrying. The poor people with the lower paying jobs have nothing to lose anyway, so why save what they get? I am not saying it is right, but at this point, they are the ones that are out buying the big screen TVs, the cars, the stereos, the game systems, because they are the ones getting the big fat checks back...

those of us who are the working poor are spending our money on bills and necessities and saving just in case and therefore we are not stimulating the economy as much...

That is what I am saying!
Yes, if he's poor, he won't be gay anymore. Geez, are you people serious?

Christians are making a statement, sending a message, when we choose not to spend our money on music by individuals who live in sin, when we refuse to patronize businesses that do not share our values and morals. 


I didn't realize it had to s-p-e-l-l things out for you intellectual elitists.  I'm shocked!


So people are poor because they chose to give tax cuts to billionaires?
Just today Cheney cast the deciding vote to cut back Medicare, Medicaid, and student loans. I guess as long as you're not the one who has a bit of misfortune and need a safety net, you really don't give a hoot, do ya? What about the billions spent in Iraq to turn it into a theocracy like Iran?
Conservatives believe Bush didn’t act in time because God told him to get rid of poor black people

on welfare and old people on Social Security because they cost taxpayers too much money.


A radio talk show host just said that…and I agree. They can’t admit that Bush has shown us all how he will refuse to protect Americans in a national emergency, even though he used that as a campaign promise, and that Bush doesn’t even have to care any more since he can’t be President again. I hope they can live with their collective conscience. That is if they have one. I’m starting to believe they don’t.


I know that lot of people hate Rush, but this is his take. sm
Rush Limbaugh is reporting that phone calls to Capitol Hill arerunning 10-to-1 AGAINST the Bogus Bailout.

And I think that it is absolutely unconscionable that the people who got us into this mess are expecting us to clean up after them. I DID NOT bite on an ARM and I DID NOT buy more house than I could afford. So why do I have to pay for people who haven't got the good sense of a head of lettuce?

I say vote them all out of office and then write in "None of the Above."
Most people who hate fox news

are the same liberal nut jobs who like politicians to blow smoke up their butt and they follow blindly and willingly.  They refuse to hear any other side and yet they spew about how fox news is one-sided.  I'm sorry, but fox news is more fair than any channel or station I've seen or heard.  Middle of the road people watch Fox.  A lot more people are tuning into Fox than other stations that is for sure.  So keep up your whining, screaming, and bad mouthing.  People who have an open mind and want to see things from all sides, they watch Fox.  People who refuse to hear or see anything but what they want to....watch MSNBC, etc. 


As for Glenn Beck....he does get a little extreme sometimes, but he is a libritarian.  He isn't pub or dem.  He says what he means and means what he says which is a heck of a lot more than I can say for Obama and our government right now.  They are too busy talking out of the sides of their mouths.  I don't agree with everything Glenn says, but I do believe he actually cares.  I don't agree with everything Bill O'Reilly says, but he does show things from both sides.  He isn't a pub either, FYI.  Sean Hannity.....I like his show because he gets both dems and pubs on there to talk.  He is definitely conservative and I don't agree with everything he says either, but he is a good interviewer.


The people who refuse to watch Fox are also the same ones who blame pubs for everything while refusing to believe that the dems are to blame for our current situation as well.  That is how blind they are.  They are so stuck on party politics that all they can do is point fingers at the pubs and whine and refuse to hear anything else.  Both parties are to blame.


The ratings prove everything.  More and more people are tuning into Fox.  Get a clue and stop your whining.


The only ones teaching hate are people

you continue to lie and say he is.  He is not teaching hate.  In fact, it's quite the opposite. He's showing grace and dignity and trying to bring people together, but about 20% of Americans don't want that.  They want to continue the divide that Bush started.  20% people hate Obama and they represent most of the posts on this board, day after day, whining, complaining, moaning and lying about Obama.


You would deny healthcare to people who need it.  You would deny Social Security benefits to those who worked all their lives.  As long as you have yours, you don't care about anyone else. There's a whole thread on this page devoted to hatred of gays and gay marriage.  There's also a thread devoted to a **hate crimes bill** that you all hate, as well.  Don't worry.  Hatred comes from the heart, so you're not in danger of losing any of the overflowing supply you seem to harbor.


So it's the **national day of prayer**.  There is not one person in this country who is deprived the right to pray.  Not one.  Everyone can pray regardless of their religion.  The day was intended for everyone of all faiths to come together and pray for our country to succeed.  But you don't want that.  You, Cooter and Rush and the other nut jobs out there want it to fail.  There are a lot of good people who happen to be Muslim, just as there are a lot of bad people who claim to be Christian.  There are good and bad in both. One religion is no better than any other.  They are all equal in this country.  That's what freedom of religion means.


There's probably a good reason that there isn't a **national day of government** in churches across this country.


Once again, Obama is not a Muslim and you're a sick, hateful pathetic liar.  If any harm comes to President Obama it will be from someone who hallucinates and promotes hatred just like you do.


What if Obama didn't hate people like me? (sm)
I like Obama as a speaker, I think Obama is very intelligent and educated. I think Obama is very attractive. I like a lot of the ideas he has. I just cannot skirt around the issue of those he has associated with and the church he attended for 20 YEARS! I find it hard to believe he is not racist against me, a plain old white citizen. I think it doesn't matter that I have friends of all races, and that I love someone of another race. All that matters to his minister is that I am white and that makes him hate me, and if Obama didn't also hate me, and those like me, then why did he continue to attend that church and listen to the acid spewing from his minister's mouth for 20 years?   While I think it is horrible that our ancestors forced African's into slavery and treated them horribly, I didn't do it! I would never do it!  I love everyone! Why do I have to be a victim of prejudice now, just because I am white?  Why can't prejudice not exist either way?
So glad we have people against hate crimes now
and anyone who thinks they can do as the KKK did years ago will have other repercussions. People are not putting up with that crap anymore- I know you might have some "groups" who talk big but as far as the hate crimes done in the past such as lynchings, beatings, etc. and people afraid to take action and turning their heads- those hateful, terrible things that over ran our country in the past are just that, things of the past.
People sucking lemons hate Obama.
Guess what...reality has already hit. Barack Obama was elected President of the United States, and he has already begun to undo some of the damage done by Georgie Porgie.

I hear there is a sale on lemons and sour grapes that you might be interested in!
Poor, poor MT. She can't pick a fight with anyone on her own board tonight and must come here to

Poor Poor Rush. Hey, how is AIR AMERICA
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Poor, poor Obama......sm
and I bet you don't think that huge press conference, surrounded by the adoring media masses, pandering to poor me (O) being taken advantage of....you don't believe that was political grandstanding?


Tsk tsk.






English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
.
Poor man
That poor man, what he went through..I dont know how he survived.
The poor just need to die, right?

I don't know where you live, but where I live, you are better off working. Clinton cut welfare down to a pittance - 40 hr work week for $123 per week. Kids get Medicaid. Ah, can't forget the food stamps - must begrudge these sloths food!


In Nazi Germany, the Jews cooperated in their own destruction; the Nazis found a form of defection that looked to desperate Jews like cooperation, and they boarded the cattle cars. The message of the Contract Republicans seems also to be that the only cooperation we seek from the desperately poor is that they vanish. The message is that we do not care how they do it: die, leave or metamorphose into something else; just don't disturb us on your way out.


I know what it's like to be poor.....
I know what it's like to consider paper towels a luxury. Where Banquet salsbury steak, macaroni and cheese, hotdogs, rice and oatmeal was all I could afford to eat. I see that again in my immediate future due to job loss and illness in my family. If I'm in that 30%? So be it. We'll make it. We always have. I just refuse to worry about it.
Poor kid, he is confused, isn't he?

Poor Hillary

So Bill is now coming out saying people are picking on Hillary. 


Oh the poor baby.  Wasn't she the one who said "If you can't stand the heat....."


Whether I like her or not is besides the point.  This is an election and Bill & Hillary need to realize if you want to win you have to work towards it.  It's not going to be handed to you. 


Yes, I realize she is working hard, but so is Barack Obama.  Do you hear him crying when she makes a racial statement about him about how nobody "white" is going to vote for him?


Grow up Bill & Hillary!


And a poor one at that. It bombed.

Poor Judgment
Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
It was the OP who said poor were unintelligent, not me....
I was quoting her. It is ridiculous to state something like that. The best people I know never went past high school and are the smartest people, rich in common sense, I ever hope to meet. Sometimes the best knowledge does NOT come from a book.

Your grampa and hootsy comment is just nasty. I have heard every debate, I watch Obama every time he is on the tube, and he is the master at dodging questions. He never gave an interview to anyone who would ask him hard questions until last month and he has been at this for a year and a half. But you never hear Obama followers say that. Because whatever he says, even if it is beating around the bush, he says the magic words I will punish the rich and give all of you in the middle class a tax cut...and that is all they want to hear. Democrats have been saying that same old stuff for years...when in the past were you much better off than you are right now?

I am actually better off financially now than I ever have been. I have survived both Republican and Democrat administrations and just worked my way up to where I am. I am not rich, but I am comfortable. And Obama is intent on taking that away from me. Don't expect me to be happy he is doing it, or that you are helping him do it. lol.


Have you always been this hateful toward the poor?
such hostility toward the working class you so strongly assert to be defending is dead-end dialog. That 95% IS the "working class", as you call them. I prefer the term income earners. If you had any clue about the true state of this economy, you would realize that not only is the 95% tax cut feasible, it is exactly what we need and it will be coming at exactly the right time when we all need it the most.

I do not live in a universe where taxpayers line up and bend over while they bail out corporate welfare deadbeats and turn a blind eye on themselves and their children. It must be a very dark world you come from where you seem to thrive on the energy it takes to sustain such hatred in your heart for the poor. My sympathies.
Poor is subjective
My mother made less than 10 an hour, raised two children on her own, managed to pay a house note (the house was falling apart but it was ours), pay for a piece of an automobile to get her back and forth to work. We didn't have anything to speak of, but she never took a penny from the government. She wasn't raised that way and it hurts her to this day to watch all those that now live in her neighborhood on HUD, paying as little as they can get by with, when they still bring in more than her.

Her total income for the year is LESS than 12 thousand a year and she still manages to pay her bills. But those neighbors manage to get all the freebies and extras courtesy of my mom while she watches the nice cars in front of their HUD houses, which she can't afford, nice clothes they wear, jewelry hanging all off their necks and arms. Their kids are walking around with EXPENSIVE clothes on their butts and walk the streets up and down, up and down all day long. They are LAZY. THey have been raised to be LAZY. In this day and time it is sad to know there are those adults out there that continue to raise their children to believe they are "entitled". So very sad.

In these cases, they are not poor, but the government would consider them "poor", even though they have more than my mother, who can't get help at all. Now you figure that one out.

And, the one who gets the HUD house lets everybody and his brother live with them, free of charge of course, so it's like one big 'ole party all the time....music blaring, sick disgusting rap crap, throw their trash in the streets, filthy mouthed. It's sickening.

Poor doesn't always equate with lazy. You're right and I hope your daughter can do better somehow. Her husband should be forced to pay for his child and his fair share and she would not have this problem.

Maybe she should get in touch with all those neighbors around my mom. I'm sure they know the system so well they can tell how her to manipulate the system to get whatever she wants.


Poor Joe the Plumber is going to have
to worry about paying taxes. Turns out he doesn't have a plumber's license nor does his employer which is required by the county. No license, no work, no taxes. Poor Joe.
Isn't the poor the ones that get the welfare now?
So what's your complaint? You think they need more? Fine, give them everything you have and we'll call it a day!


They are both in very, very poor taste and should be
taken down.  It is truly amazing what some people will do. 
That poor man wasn't even...

...technically an "employee."  He was a temp, so I guess he wouldn't even get life the insurance benefits that an employee might get.


I hear how the poor are
tumors living off the lifeblood of hardworking Americans. Throw all the immigrants out. But, you berate a woman, who out of obvious desperation poisons herself, because she cannot see her way out of pregnancy. Talk about double standards. You probably support the death penalty, too.
Poor baby...(sm)

Using the term "teabaggers" is rude?  I shouldn't ridicule others with different beliefs?  Give me a break.  You guys have consistently ridiculed anyone who agrees with Obama time and time again on this board, as well as those who just don't agree with you.  Rude?  How about Kool-Aid drinkers, Obamatrons.....you know the list.


The problem with you is that you can dish it out but can't take it.  If you plan on teabagging effectively you might want to consider growing a pair. 


Excuse me if I'm not sympathetic to those poor,

And talk about moral values!  To be more concerned about the profits of a drug company and the fear that the government might "strong arm" them into possibly SAVING THE POPULATION OF AN ENTIRE COUNTRY in a time of WAR is absolutely shameless and reflects a total lack of values.


But that IS the "red" way of thinking, isn't it?  Big business must always come first.


 


Conservatives don't care about the poor...






NOT!


America and the Poor...


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America and the poor, that is the subject of this evening's “Talking Points Memo.”


The aftermath of Katrina has produced a debate over poor Americans. There are about 37 million people living below the poverty line right now. The issue was described this way by Newsweek (search) reporter Evan Thomas (search), a liberal guy but not alone, who writes, Liberals will say [the authorities] were indifferent to the plight of poor African-Americans. It is true that Katrina laid bare society's massive neglect of its least fortunate.


Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower.


In 1996, the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2 percent of the budget and a whopping amount of money. That's why Bill Clinton (search) was called the first black president by some.


However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements, 14.6 percent of the entire budget, a huge increase over Clinton's spending on poverty entitlements.








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I can hardly think of a poor man who ever ran for president. Lincoln maybe.
My Republican values are just as strong as they ever were.  But I have been disappointed in President Bush at times.  I will stick with him though.  But not without question.
I thought that was in poor taste.
And still think so.
definitely shows poor judgement
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This poor little Sam person is really pathetic. (s/m)
It seems this person's whole identity & self-esteem revolves around monopolizing this little medical transcriptionists' politics forum. Seems like a waste of your time & energy. If you REALLY care so much about your views & your party, instead of wasting your words on an obscure little politics forum, why aren't you out volunteering for your candidates? Your 24/7 comebacks to nearly EVERY post on this board that disagrees with YOUR beliefs suggests that:
a) You have no job.
b) You do not sleep, eat, or go to the bathroom.
c) You absolutely CANNOT let a person with different ideas have the last word.

Therefore, it seems that you would be the ideal choice for ANY political party to be out canvassing your neighborhood, organizing fundraisers, distributing propaganda (um, I mean literature), etc. to support your candidate.

So the question is, if you are such a 'talented' and 'knowlegeable' political afficionado, why do you waste your time & energy here?
The truly poor already get money from the taxpayer.
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.....Not very lucky for the poor rabbit.....
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I am so sick of that excuse for the poor....
I don't know where you live but in this town, black children and white children, and some illegals, sit in the SAME classrooms side by side. They all have the opportunity to learn the same information, regardless of their color or financial situation. And, I might add, if it weren't for the "rich" as you put it, though I question your definition of rich, a lot of these children would not have clothes or food, not because they come from poverty but because they have SORRY LOUSY PARENTS. Now, by all means, please tell me how Obama is going to fix that......he going to go in that poor child's home every day and tell their momma to get her butt home from the whorehouse and the bar and take care of her children? He gonna tell their daddy to get off his sorry lazy butt and take care of his children and stop knocking up every girl he can? The children who are not financially well off do have a good thing going for them however. THey have parents who work, get off their lazy butts, and do not feel ENTITLED to my money. They do not think it is the government's place to take care of them, house them, feed them, do their thinking for them. And, I guarantee you they do not want Obama in there because a lot of them feel he is the problem, the "black" leader who thinks he can take care of the problem. Well, unless he wants to come down on the parents for being bums, then I suggest he get he get off that kick. Stop talking about poverty as if those better off are in some way responsible for the poor.

If it weren't for the "better off" around here who own businesses and have the ability to hire, where in the heck do you think the people would work?

RICH is not a bad word. And I can guarantee you if you were rich, you would be singig a different tune as would others who seemingly have a problem with the "rich". They would be laughing all the way to the bank and b*tching for all it's worth if they thought the government wanted their money.
And I'm not talking about poor who have fallen
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Oh, poor thing.....they need you to protect them
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You poor bitter person you
First of all, I am NOT a republican, never have been. Don't worry, I am fully aware of the 401K issue, and I can guarantee you all my eggs are not in one basket. But the ones that are in there sure as heck do not need to be further taxed by Obama for all his entitlement programs.

I too was born to a very poor family and we NEVER took one red dime from the government and I did without plenty. My mother would have lived under a bridge before she accepted money from the government and she was a single mom raising children when my dad died. We had NOTHING before and had nothing afterwards. Now, minimum wage. I know minimum wage. I worked for it all the way through putting MYSELF through college, not the government. My husband who came from a family of 6 children, dirt poor, also worked his OWN way through college and paid his OWN way, not the help of anyone either. He dug ditches, sewers, hauled hay in 100+ degree weather and so many other disgusting jobs you wouldn't touch. Now for those of us who didn't sit on our butts and feel sorry for ourselves, I do not feel sorry for anyone who thinks they are too good to work.

Everyone may not want to go to college but don't criticize those that do. In my county, ANYONE, ANYONE who graduates from a school in this county gets two years FREE college education.....ANYONE. Know how many take advantage of that? Not everyone that could. They're too lazy to make the effort and word hard. I suppose you have an excuse for that too. You better believe if they are making minimum wage then, it's their own fault. They had as much opportunity to better themselves as the kid sitting next to them in school. They just want a free ride because so many see their familities getting one. What's the motivation really!? No, you can't take it with you but the people savoring it as you put it should be the ones who actually work for it, not the freeloaders.

Sorry you think ONLY republicans are smart enough to educate themselves and make a living for themselves. How said for you. I'm independent....those can make their own way too!!

But you're right,everyone will be in for a big shock with Obama draining their wallets. Even the minimum wage earners are going to whining and b@tching and who they gonna blame then? I'm sure they'll find someone besides Obama though.

So get off your pity pot and grow up.....stop living in your past. THat's the problem with all our young people now. They didn't live it but they sure have plenty of people around them who raise them to feel sorry for themselves instead of motivating them to go as far as you can.