I do not think he meant he would quit taking his legal deductions -
Posted By: Amanda on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Not quite the same as paying it from his own personal account....sm - m
I think he meant he did not mind paying 3% more on what was left, which is what is being proposed.
I don't expect anyone to quit taking their legal deductions and I don't see how his taking those deductions can be construed as his not having to pay more taxes. The amount you owe comes off the adjusted amount and that will still be the same after he itemizes - just the percentage paid against that amount will change.
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I'll quit taking my antidepressants when you...sm
stop posting such utter nonsense and depressing messages on here. You stay right in there, though - pretty soon I'll be able to get off them and you will have to start taking them - thanks to your ever-lovin' Obama!
He probably did quit smoking. I quit 2-3 a year myself.
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Is that with deductions or no?
10% of what? gross or net income? Take away all deductions, like personal exemptions, mortgage interest, business deductions, home office deductions. Would it be 10% of profit that a company makes or all revenue brought in?
Raise the cap for SS deductions.
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10%. No deductions. Wouldn't need 'em if
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GET REAL if you make over 250 thou AFTER DEDUCTIONS you are RICH! NM
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LEGAL
SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE DEMMIE!
And yet it is still legal....
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abortion will always be, whether legal or not
What these anti pro choice people dont seem to realize is, termination of pregnancy will continue whether it is legal or not. The only difference is it will go underground, performed by people who are not licensed and the rich women, they will just make an appointment in a progressive not backward country like America and have their abortion. Essentially women will be baby makers for the government, their bodies controlled by the government. What it comes down to is..the neocons need to mind their own business.
Legal or not, there will always be abortions.
Abortions will always be performed whether they are legal or not. When I was in college, abortion was illegal. Several students became pregnant and had illegal abortions by back-alley butchers, and they almost died from hemorrhage and infection. Others tried to abort their pregnancies with wire hangers, knitting needles, and other drastic measures. I would much rather have legal abortions performed by licensed physicians than force young women to resort to barbaric procedures to terminate their pregnancies.
Legal yes, moral no. n/m
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Its not a legal issue
its a mental issue. Supreme Court does not rule in that arena.
it's not stealing - it's legal!
They are not married so they qualify for the earned income credit on their taxes even though they pay nothing in. It is based on how many children you have and your income.
It's been there forever! My sister gets upwards of $6000 a year every year and has for as long as I can remember; of course, when the children hit 17 or 18, that is gone, but for now it is like an extra $500 or $600 a month in income if you spread it out.
That's why I cannot figure out why these people are so upset about Obama giving money to poor people - heck, it's been going on for as long as I can remember... it's nothing new that Obama just came up with and decided to do.
Slavery used to be legal. Does that mean it's a RIGHT?
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Yes, the children are legal but the
parents are not.
I don't know if the law changed, but the mother is also in Mexico. Don't know if she went voluntarily or if she was deported, too. If she went voluntarily, then I feel she really didn't put her children first.
Like I said in my earlier post, I think the children should have gone with them even though they are American citizens. Why let the eldest take care of the younger ones, I think ages 15 and 11.
Hopefully everybody will quit!
And they can stop building and maintaining sports arenas, etc., etc., on the backs of the smokers - sin tax anyone? You can bet your sweet patootie, there'd be rioting (in the Senate) if they tried taxing alcohol as hard as they tax tobacco.
I don't have to quit anything........
the lies, corruption, abuse of power, shredding the constitution, voiding the Geneva Convention, on and on and on - ALL unforgiveable!! If you forget the past, you are condemned to repeat it. Screw Bush - I hope he fries in he!! along with his neo-con nazi followers.
Exactly! Maybe if he'd quit doing that
we'd stop ragging on him!
I'm not sure of all the formal legal implications, but (sm)
I don't think the lawsuit has anything to do with The Pledge itself except for the words, under God. I'm pretty sure this is the motivating factor of the suit.
Now here again, I believe in God, but I also respect the fact that there are other Americans who do not. Isn't that one of the primary reasons we fought so hard for indepence? The freedom to choose our religion or not to choose any religion?
Separation of church and state. It boggles my mind that this basic, simple premise somehow is so complicated.
The Pledge did not even contain the words, under God until some time in the 1950s. The Pledge was ammended to include them. The founding fathers did not write those words.
Believing in God should not be a qualification for being an American. Including the words, under God, if one does not believe in God, prohibits them from reciting The Pledge. They don't want to have to leave the room or be silent. They want to pledge their allegiance to their country, but for those words.
It has nothing to do with Americans excluding God. It's just the right of all Americans to practice their religion of choice or no religion.
Proclaiming one's belief in God can be exhibited in so many more meaningful ways than insisting that 2 words be included in The Pledge.
I agree. Women will have them - legal or not
Although I don't think I would ever consider abortion personally and am also sickened by people who have them over and over again (get your tubes tied darn it!!!), I believe women will have them regardless of if they are legal or not, so I think it is much safer if they remain legal.
I also think the woman should have the choice of what to do with something that is actually inside of her body. She is the one ultimately 100% responsible for the medical bills due to the pregnancy, the emotional toll and physical risks of the pregnancy, and the child's well being afterwards. The man can get off scott free if he wants and skip from job to job to avoid paying child support, so it should definitely be up to the woman.
I also find it odd that many pro-life Republicans are so adamant that each baby have a chance to be born, but yet if that baby is born to a lower-class mother many (not all) don't want a dime of their money to go to help that baby with healthcare costs or any other costs that could help the child after it's actually born. Where is the deep concern for the children that are actually living?
Though the thought of abortion is definitely disturbing to me, I do not believe at less than 3 months old a baby's nerves are developed enough to feel pain as they are aborted, but I know for a fact many children in the USA are being abused and neglected on a daily basis because they were unwanted, and my heart breaks for them. There are over 100,000 foster kids in the USA right now that need good homes and more resources, and I think our focus should be on helping these children first. My sister has 2 amazing foster kids, and I really wish the anti-abortion activists would focus on fostering or helping the kids that are here now instead of focusing so much on fetuses that are inside of other women's bodies, and therefore really none of their business in my personal opinion. (I know some do foster and volunteer, but I have a sneaking suspicion that not all of them do!)
Well...I don't think legal abortion exists...
in any Muslim country.
Isn't it pretty much legal in Vegas?
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Or she might be almost 18, which would make her a legal adult.
THis was not about deciding whether abortion was legal...
it was deciding to allow an infant who survived an abortion, was breathing and heart beating OUTSIDE the mother, to be left to DIE. ANYONE who would countenance THAT is, to me, subhuman and has no heart. He claims tocare about the poor and downtrodden and wants to deny care to a baby who survived an abortion? What a liar. Barack Obama cares about getting Barack Obama elected and that is ALL he cares about.
I don't understand your question, sorry....if I don't want him controlling my health care why would I want him deciding if an abortion should be legal? I don't want him controlling my health care, and the Supreme Court already decided (unconstitutionally I might add) that abortion is legal. THIS was about INFANTICIDE. Killing a living breathing infant outside and separate from the mother by denying it medical care. Abortion is horrific enough, but that is out and out negligent homicide, and he voted FOR it. That tells me all I need to know about Barack Obama and how he cares about people.
I read your "document". Very legal-looking and all,
How exactly do you know that's legitimate? Did you see the official hard-copy? Likely not. I could have typed something like that myself, and so could you, or any other person who owns a PC. Even a photo of a 'hard copy' posted on the internet can't be automatically assumed to be valid. You do know, don't you, that most of what you read and hear on the internet is suspect in its validity, and nearly impossible to prove? The internet has more urban myths, fantasies and lies floating around on it than Carter's has little pills. So you have to be very careful about making decisions and judgements based on what you find here, and even more careful about what you say.
Anyway, it's a nice-looking document, but again, I could produce something exactly like that with ANYone's name on it, and post it on an internet in a matter of minutes.
Real 'truth' is something that's actually very, very difficult to find under the best of circumstances, and your chances of finding any during an election year?
Pretty much zip.
If Obama is not legal, he is not doing our country
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You can go to school as a legal resident
& don't have to become a citizen. Being adopted by someone doesn't imply that you automatically have that person's citizenship.
I lived in a country that doesn't recognize dual citizenship. I could have gotten a residence visa (work visa would have been possible, but more difficult), but I worked legally and went to school without either of these things. I married a Dutch national and did not give up my U.S. citizenship, but if I had (I was 19 at the time) I could have requested that my U.S. citizenship be reinstated when I turned 21.
The concentration camps were legal, too.
Your argument doesn't hold any water. Just because someone's allowed to murder one type of human being and not another does not make either right or just.
And, FYI, killing an adult with cancer is NOT illegal, so you need to check your facts.
If Joe Legal is married and has 2 children
and 2 parents, whom he probably supports, why else did you mention this, anyways, Joe Legal does NOT pay 30% taxes.
After I read this statement, I did NOT continue to read your rant.
Does Joe Legal not get any of his medical expenses paid by the government or his employer? ANY, AT ALL ?
So what? All legal votes, we are not Iran....nm
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I don't think most smoker's will quit just to
but I agree with you to some extent. I think most American's would be happy to have their taxes raised a little bit if it meant saving the life of even 1 child or improving the health of a chronically ill child. I certainly wouldn't mind having my taxes raised to help children AND the elderly get more affordable healthcare. On the other hand, for now the cigarette tax is a great idea, and if it does help some people quit, more power to them! I'm sure you see the same thing I do in medical reports every day though - people with COPD, asthma, lung cancer - still smoking!! If impending death isn't enough to make a lot of people quit I don't think $1 extra per pack will either.
come on sam quit hiding
be a man, sign your posts.
If you are sick of it, then why don't you quit
going to get rich somehow with Obama in the White House. This stuff doesn't happen overnight.
Furthermore anyone with a 401K or stocks know that there is a downside. You don't always win... So who is looking for free money now? Oh the stock holders are?????? These are the same people that live the good life. Well too bad! You lose because you put your faith in the stock market... Oh well.. Do I feel pity? Nope. Not when there are people struggling just to make minimum wage.
I was born with no money in my hand and I'll die with no money in my hand. Makes no difference to me really.
Anyone with any sense knows "you can't take it with ya'." Savor the moment.
All of you republicans out there that think McCain is going to somehow turn this country around are in for a big shock when he gets in there. The joke is on him. He thinks this Palin person is going to get him in, and he's oh so wrong! I have to wonder if he really is demented. Really?????
me too - who else plans to quit
Why work. There are no incentives. Why should I work when my money will be taken and given to people like Peggy Joseph who stated she won't have to work to buy gas and she won't have to work to pay her mortgage.
Well, I did quit for a whole 3 weeks
one time. After that, I went downhill the next couple times I tried.Made it a whole 5 hours.
Someone in our family an immigrant?? - LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
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If she had the proper and legal authority to fire him --
then why didn't she just do it instead of them telling the other guy to do it - then there would not be a problem.
Also, this inquiry was started before she was running for the VP slot - so it was not something they cooked up to get her after she got picked by McCain.
how about legal!!/common sense test...
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I didn't say it was correct, legal, or moral.
And the WMDs didn't have anything to do with it, although you'll never convince me that Sadaam didn't have the capability for such - he'd used them in the past to kill hundreds of thousands of his own people.
Correct, legal, moral or whatever, if you're in line with a terrorist group, like many sent to these places were, then you have no rights. Plain and simple.
I just feel that we've gotten too far from 9/11 and remembering what that day was like and all those people killed. It seems like now we care more about the "rights" of those involved in terrorist activites than those innocent people who died that day. Maybe that's why we're such an easy target.
He has no legal recourse to "recall" bonuses.
Unfortunately, because these are private companies, they have contracts with the CEOs and they are absolutely within their rights to honor those contracts. However, if Obama can find a loophole to keep them from getting paid, then we'll see what happens then.
This is why the government shoulder NEVER get involved in private businesses. Once they start handing on money, they think they own private businesses and dictate everything to them, so now we are caught in a catch 22 so to speak; government has no business in private businesses but yet they have given private businesses OUR money with NO stipulations beforehand and are now "surprised" the bonsues will continue?! Pleeeze!!!
If alcohol is legal, then marijuana isn't any worse
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It wasn't legal, it was unlawfully allowed; thus, the
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Ah, quit your whining, you're just a know-nothing
God help us, PK, this is the best response we can elicit. I can hear them already. I guess it's easier to just DENY, DENY, DENY and swiftboat than face the truth. Where,exactly, does the proverbial buck stop? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text',' ');
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Well then quit threatening to leave
because you just keep getting my hopes up.
Stay or leave I really don't care, because the sane people who are the MAJORITY in this country will protect us all from the likes of you...a hate filled leftist.
Oh, Sam, quit making so much sense.
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No he doesn't. He quit when she became governor.
What if he did? Thousands of people work for oil companies. And if you want to keep driving your car and putting oil in your furnance and all the million other products in the world that require petroleum, I am thinking you should hope they continue to.
You're the one who keeps responding. Just quit your...sm
harassment.
I was speaking to you, no matter how you try to twist the converation, and say I can't follow the thread. Period.
She was very confident. Quit the bashing.
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If you were a "good little communist" and quit...sm
your job, the Russians would have shipped you off to Siberia. For us that would equate to Alaska. Maybe that's where you should head anyway after election day when Obama wins by a wide margin.
He quit after he started his campaign
has fallen off the wagon several times during the campaign, just FYI.
You can quit kissing butt now
we get the point.
Geez.
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