I don't believe Islam is being persecuted. nm
Posted By: MT on 2006-08-05
In Reply to: A previous poster asked who PNAC was. I answered. sm - LVMT
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Islamists are not being persecuted. sm
Many MANY Iraqis do want it democracy. You really can't generalize that the country doesn't want it. That isn't true. As far as Islamists, Iran's ruler has said that the time is very near to them using a nuclear weapon and that when the smoke has cleared, the world will be converted to Islam. This is a prophecy of Islam actually. They are far from being persecuted and, in fact, the entire non-Islamic world should be better educated as to the real goal of radical Islam. There are over a billion non-violent Muslims in the world who have existed in peace through the centuries. These are not the ones to be concerned about. I heard an Iraqi teacher speaking about Democracy in Iraq on television. What he and his colleagues say about Democracy is totally the opposite of what you have said. Whose voice then do we discount?
In general, they are being persecuted.
People rarely speak of the majority you mentioned. Invading Iraq was a huge mistake since Iraq and Iran were basically enemies, working against each others interests. Now, thanks to US, the area has been split wide open with positive Iranian influence now present in Iraq, something Saddam Hussein had fought.
Yes, and The Persecuted Church
While persecution is not exclusionary to one set of beliefs at the present time Christians are the most persecuted people in the world especially in the Arab world and in communistic countries such as China and dictatorial countries like Iran and North Korea.
persecutedchurch.org
Ah, the persecuted Christian argument. Please.............
Christians are persecuted all over the world. sm
ESPECIALLY in intolerant Muslim countries. Voice of the Martyrs is a very good source for this information.
Islam. sm
There is no stopping Sharia. It has been started and we won't stop it, no matter what we do. Even if it dies down, it will still exist and wait for another day. It's my belief that the first extremely bad misstep was not with Clinton but with Carter.
Another point on Islam. sm
The Qur'an very clearly obligates all Muslims to bring the entire world under subjugation to their Allah and to force all nations to accept Islamic law (sharia). If nations will not accept sharia voluntarily they are to be conquered and forced to submit. The Qur'an, of course, has been around for centuries, since 500 years after the death of Christ. An attempt was made to bring nations under subjugation in the time of the Crusades. It was only through a massive war and crusade by Christians that the takeover was stopped. What happened leading up to 9/11, i.e., the multiple terrorist attacks on military installations, ships, compounds, the first WTC, etc., has nothing to do with politics at all. Once people stop relating all this to economics and politics, they might actually get the real picture. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. There are just too many conspiracy theories out there that are way more entertaining and, of course, the horror of actually realizing the enemy we face is pretty daunting. At any rate, the horror exists and has existed all along. We did not provoke 9/11 or any of the other terrorist acts. I wonder, just how many 9/11s were we supposed to sit through.
Yep, it is Islam doing the persecuting
You don't have to read very much to realize that.
He's won the Islam population......whoop de doo
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Radical Islam is not a religion......
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Right, there are ඁ" nations of Islam. Guess
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This is an ignorant statement. Islam is a monotheist
There is one God, and he is known to us under many different names...Allah is one of those names. "False religion" Puleeze. Who put you in charge? There are different versions of the Holy Book just as there are different versions of the Bible. Some among us DO understand the difference between religion as a statement of faith and the ugly underside of relgion in it politicized form. Politicized Christianity is every bit as ugly as politicized Islam.
SINCE WHEN DOES THE KORAN FORCE PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM?..
Are you still living in the stone ages?
You have the nerve to talk label Islam. Look at the so-called Christian
Robertson suggests God smote Sharon
Evangelist links Israeli leader's stroke to 'dividing God's land'
(CNN) -- Television evangelist Pat Robertson suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Robertson opposed.
He was dividing God's land, and I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the [European Union], the United Nations or the United States of America,' Robertson told viewers of his long-running television show, The 700 Club.
God says, 'This land belongs to me, and you'd better leave it alone,' he said.
Robertson's show airs on the ABC Family cable network and claims about 1 million viewers daily.
Sharon, 77, clung to life in a Jerusalem hospital Thursday after surgery to treat a severe stroke, his doctors said.
The prime minister, who withdrew Israeli settlers and troops from Gaza and parts of the West Bank last summer over heated objections from his own Likud Party, was breathing with the aid of a ventilator after doctors operated to stop the bleeding in his brain.
In Washington, President Bush offered praise for Sharon in a speech on Thursday.
We pray for his recovery, Bush said. He's a good man, a strong man. A man who cared deeply about the security of the Israeli people, and a man who had a vision for peace. May God bless him.
Daniel Ayalon, Israel's ambassador to the United States, compared Robertson's remarks to the overheated rhetoric of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (Full story)
He called the comments outrageous and said they were not something to expect from any of our friends.
He is a great friend of Israel and a great friend of Prime Minister Sharon himself, so I am very surprised, Ayalon told CNN.
Robertson, 75, founded the Christian Coalition and in 1988 failed in a bid for the Republican presidential nomination. He last stirred controversy in August, when he called for the assassination of Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez. (Full story)
Robertson later apologized, but still compared Chavez to Hitler and former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in the process.
The same month, the Anti-Defamation League criticized Robertson for warning that God would bring judgment against Israel for its withdrawal from Gaza, which it had occupied since the 1967 Mideast war.
Robertson said Thursday that Sharon was a very likable person, and I am sad to see him in this condition.
He linked Sharon's health problems to the 1995 assassination of Israeli leader Yitzhak Rabin, who signed the Oslo peace accords that granted limited self-rule to Palestinians.
It was a terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, now he's dead, Robertson said.
Rabin was gunned down by a religious student opposed to the Oslo accords. The killer, Yigal Amir, admitted to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison.
Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, criticized Robertson's comments Thursday, saying the televangelist has a political agenda for the entire world.
He seems to think God is ready to take out any world leader who stands in the way of that agenda, Lynn said in a written statement.
A religious leader should not be making callous political points while a man is struggling for his life, he said. I'm appalled.
Ralph Neas, president of liberal advocacy group People for the American Way, said it is astonishing that Pat Robertson still wields substantial influence in the Republican Party.
Once again, Pat Robertson leaves us speechless with his insensitivity and arrogance, Neas said in a written statement.
According to The Associated Press, Robertson spokeswoman Angell Watts said of people who criticized the comments: What they're basically saying is, 'How dare Pat Robertson quote the Bible?'
This is what the word of God says, Watts told the AP. This is nothing new to the Christian community.
I find it far more hypocritical that Islam preaches as the religion of peace. sm
But then, that's just me.
Fortunately, Lurker, many on the left realize the threat from radical Islam. sm
It isn't political, but it has been made that way. That's why a lot of you have been lulled into being apologist for murdering Islamofascists.
True freedom of religion if you are Christian, or freedom to Islam,Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, agnostic, a
all are religious beliefs, and if you are looking for true FREEDOM, all must be tolerated, understood, and welcomed. cannot put parameters on FREEDOM
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