Right, there are ඁ" nations of Islam. Guess
Posted By: Obama just got them mixed up -great.nm on 2008-10-11
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Why go on and on in defense of the ඁ states"
remark? My God! and.. if it had been McCain making the same mistake, you probably would have been all over him. You want to insult me as if I pay no attention and do no research. I am 45 years old, take the presidency VERY seriously, and I do pay attention. So, "get smart" yourself and wake up! I do not believe that Obama has the experience or policies to lead and defend the United States of America. I do not care what color he is and I don't appreciate it when anyone, including himself, makes race an issue. We should not vote against or for someone because of color, yet it will happen. The way I feel about Obama has nothing to do with race, it has to do with "substance" as I said. You can feel the way you want. You certainly have not changed my mind. We all have a right to decide what WE feel is best.
The Obama ඁ states" comment is on tape
-so it is not a rumor. I have seen him say it myself. There are people at his rally laughing at him in the background, yet he never realizes himself what he said. As far as the "bomb on Pearl Harbor" comment, he later admitted he meant to say the "bomb on Hiroshima". He had the 2 confused. I only brought up those examples because people seem to love to make fun of McCain and his age, and act as if he has Alzheimer's or something. Obama makes plenty of speaking mistakes when he does not have a scripted speech to make. I am not a big fan of either candidate, but fair is fair, and it is NOT fair to ridicule McCain for "mis-speaking" and act as if Obama doesn't.
All nations ...
have a double standard. At least we're not publicly stoning women. All this "liberal" talk of releasing torture-porno pics has nothing to do with holding our pols accountable. Releasing those photos will not jail Bush or anyone in his administration. Releasing them will incite and inflame acts against troops in Iraq, 99.9% of whom are not torturing, have not tortured, and will not torture.
If the US is not living up to it's spouted "ideals" then perhaps we should imitate the policies of some other nation? How about Russia or China or India? Or maybe Cuba or Venezuela? Cuba/Castro, who has received trillions over the last 50 years yet most of the island still lives in abject poverty.
And Chavez, building his "socialism" on war for oil profits while pretending US wars are evil. He sweats every time the price of oil drops b/c he needs war to fund his 21st century socialism.
Oh, I know, lets imitate those little Nordic and/or European countries who collect 60+% of your income to spread the wealth around while giving evil BigBusiness tax incentive to headquarter there.
Why some on the left think degrading ourselves even further is the key to solving anything is sheer stupidity. It's like cutting your nose off to spite your face. You're gonna get your one world utopia - good and hard.
developing nations
because they are developing nations, not world powers, not industrialized nations, yet.
Could be that if O is elected, those nations
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The United Nations has always been a joke.
They never accomplish anything, never take responsibility for anything and want everything for themselves.
There is nothing wrong with Sarah Palin as a VP candidate. Besides, McCain has a right to pick who he wants.
The plot was by The Aryan Nations
The Aryan Nations is a racist, antisemitic, white supremacist hate group. It is the political arm of the White Identity Church of Jesus Christ-Christian, long led by Richard Butler. The movement promotes the heresy known as Christian Identity.
Another example of a Christian terrorist group.
The only 2 UN nations who have not ratified the UNCRC are
what I have a really hard time with is that ANY parent would feel threatened by the idea that their child might have rights. Aren't children and parents supposed to be on the same side? Pitting parents against children? Oh please.
Islam. sm
There is no stopping Sharia. It has been started and we won't stop it, no matter what we do. Even if it dies down, it will still exist and wait for another day. It's my belief that the first extremely bad misstep was not with Clinton but with Carter.
Sarah Palin, United Nations, she has
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European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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I don't believe Islam is being persecuted. nm
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Another point on Islam. sm
The Qur'an very clearly obligates all Muslims to bring the entire world under subjugation to their Allah and to force all nations to accept Islamic law (sharia). If nations will not accept sharia voluntarily they are to be conquered and forced to submit. The Qur'an, of course, has been around for centuries, since 500 years after the death of Christ. An attempt was made to bring nations under subjugation in the time of the Crusades. It was only through a massive war and crusade by Christians that the takeover was stopped. What happened leading up to 9/11, i.e., the multiple terrorist attacks on military installations, ships, compounds, the first WTC, etc., has nothing to do with politics at all. Once people stop relating all this to economics and politics, they might actually get the real picture. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. There are just too many conspiracy theories out there that are way more entertaining and, of course, the horror of actually realizing the enemy we face is pretty daunting. At any rate, the horror exists and has existed all along. We did not provoke 9/11 or any of the other terrorist acts. I wonder, just how many 9/11s were we supposed to sit through.
Yep, it is Islam doing the persecuting
You don't have to read very much to realize that.
EVERYBODY laughs at the Useless Nations, not just North Korea. nm
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He's won the Islam population......whoop de doo
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Radical Islam is not a religion......
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This is an ignorant statement. Islam is a monotheist
There is one God, and he is known to us under many different names...Allah is one of those names. "False religion" Puleeze. Who put you in charge? There are different versions of the Holy Book just as there are different versions of the Bible. Some among us DO understand the difference between religion as a statement of faith and the ugly underside of relgion in it politicized form. Politicized Christianity is every bit as ugly as politicized Islam.
SINCE WHEN DOES THE KORAN FORCE PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM?..
Are you still living in the stone ages?
You have the nerve to talk label Islam. Look at the so-called Christian
Robertson suggests God smote Sharon
Evangelist links Israeli leader's stroke to 'dividing God's land'
(CNN) -- Television evangelist Pat Robertson suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Robertson opposed.
He was dividing God's land, and I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the [European Union], the United Nations or the United States of America,' Robertson told viewers of his long-running television show, The 700 Club.
God says, 'This land belongs to me, and you'd better leave it alone,' he said.
Robertson's show airs on the ABC Family cable network and claims about 1 million viewers daily.
Sharon, 77, clung to life in a Jerusalem hospital Thursday after surgery to treat a severe stroke, his doctors said.
The prime minister, who withdrew Israeli settlers and troops from Gaza and parts of the West Bank last summer over heated objections from his own Likud Party, was breathing with the aid of a ventilator after doctors operated to stop the bleeding in his brain.
In Washington, President Bush offered praise for Sharon in a speech on Thursday.
We pray for his recovery, Bush said. He's a good man, a strong man. A man who cared deeply about the security of the Israeli people, and a man who had a vision for peace. May God bless him.
Daniel Ayalon, Israel's ambassador to the United States, compared Robertson's remarks to the overheated rhetoric of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (Full story)
He called the comments outrageous and said they were not something to expect from any of our friends.
He is a great friend of Israel and a great friend of Prime Minister Sharon himself, so I am very surprised, Ayalon told CNN.
Robertson, 75, founded the Christian Coalition and in 1988 failed in a bid for the Republican presidential nomination. He last stirred controversy in August, when he called for the assassination of Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez. (Full story)
Robertson later apologized, but still compared Chavez to Hitler and former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in the process.
The same month, the Anti-Defamation League criticized Robertson for warning that God would bring judgment against Israel for its withdrawal from Gaza, which it had occupied since the 1967 Mideast war.
Robertson said Thursday that Sharon was a very likable person, and I am sad to see him in this condition.
He linked Sharon's health problems to the 1995 assassination of Israeli leader Yitzhak Rabin, who signed the Oslo peace accords that granted limited self-rule to Palestinians.
It was a terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, now he's dead, Robertson said.
Rabin was gunned down by a religious student opposed to the Oslo accords. The killer, Yigal Amir, admitted to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison.
Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, criticized Robertson's comments Thursday, saying the televangelist has a political agenda for the entire world.
He seems to think God is ready to take out any world leader who stands in the way of that agenda, Lynn said in a written statement.
A religious leader should not be making callous political points while a man is struggling for his life, he said. I'm appalled.
Ralph Neas, president of liberal advocacy group People for the American Way, said it is astonishing that Pat Robertson still wields substantial influence in the Republican Party.
Once again, Pat Robertson leaves us speechless with his insensitivity and arrogance, Neas said in a written statement.
According to The Associated Press, Robertson spokeswoman Angell Watts said of people who criticized the comments: What they're basically saying is, 'How dare Pat Robertson quote the Bible?'
This is what the word of God says, Watts told the AP. This is nothing new to the Christian community.
I find it far more hypocritical that Islam preaches as the religion of peace. sm
But then, that's just me.
Fortunately, Lurker, many on the left realize the threat from radical Islam. sm
It isn't political, but it has been made that way. That's why a lot of you have been lulled into being apologist for murdering Islamofascists.
True freedom of religion if you are Christian, or freedom to Islam,Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, agnostic, a
all are religious beliefs, and if you are looking for true FREEDOM, all must be tolerated, understood, and welcomed. cannot put parameters on FREEDOM
Good don't guess. It's my guess though.nm
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My guess would be
THREE!
guess what
Now you know how it feels, don't you?
That's anybody's guess. sm
But I think it is an educated guess to think most democratic voters in this election were against the war and most republican voters were for the war. Just my guess.
I guess your'e in the 39%
Bush approval rating dips to 39 percent - poll
Wed Oct 12, 9:47 PM ET
President George W. Bush's job approval rating has fallen to a new low of 39 percent in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday.
Bush's approval rating dipped in the poll below a mid-September ranking of 40 percent. The survey also found only 28 percent of respondents believed the country was headed in the right direction, NBC reported.
Bush's political challenges have been piling up in recent weeks, from criticism over his handling of Hurricane Katrina, to growing unease over rising gas prices to conservative discord over the nomination of Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Many conservatives are outraged that Bush picked the White House insider with no judicial experience instead of a judge with clear-cut conservative credentials who could be counted on to move the high court firmly to the right.
Twenty-nine percent of people surveyed said Miers was qualified to serve on the highest court in the United States, while 24 percent thought she was not qualified and 46 percent said they did not know enough about her, NBC said.
The poll also found that strong majorities did not believe that recent charges against former House Republican leader Tom DeLay of Texas or a federal investigation of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, were politically motivated, NBC said.
DeLay has been indicted in Texas on money-laundering and conspiracy charges linked to campaign financing. Frist is being investigated over a stock sale.
With the 2006 congressional elections a year away, 48 percent of respondents said they preferred a Democratic-controlled Congress, compared with 39 percent who said they preferred Republican leadership, NBC said.
The 9-point difference was the largest margin between the parties in the 11 years the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll had been tracking the question, NBC said.
The poll of 807 adults was conducted from Saturday to Monday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points
where are you? I guess some way
from Houston, too close to it myself! you are right about the crime wave, up just about everywhere. have your kids told you what Sugarland and Ft. Bend County are like now?
Anyway, nobody is going to hire a medical Transcriptionist with 143 days experience on her resume and I don't feel inclined to hire a president with that, either.
Immigration is not the problem; invasion is, lawbreakers are a problem. We just had a pastor on TV in Houston who has had 5 wrecks, all caused by uninsured motorists and that is the least of it. I personally have seen what is happening to our ER's, unfortunately, the media says little about it. I understand 87 hospitals in southern California have folded. No private hospital can withstand the onslaught of all this clinic business. But, of course, the actual clinics designed for this are only open during regular business hours. Well, just a few thoughts of mine.
To Guess Who?
Sam,
Here, here! Couldn't have said it better myself! We ALL have our own personal experiences with illegals. Where is the mention of all the illegals that come here with drugs, and murder and rape our people?! Did I mention the pedophiles?! Just watch the news and it's all over the place! Just yesterday, they were talking about an illegal from Mexico in SanFrancisco that killed a father and his 2 boys, over a traffic incident!!!??? He was part of a gang! He previously was in trouble with the law before, and nothing was done! Now 3 people are dead, and a wife and 2 other children are forever torn apart by this low-life piece of sh*T that couldn't care LESS about life, liberty, and the pursuit!!!! Same story just a few months ago in LA. Another gang member (illegal) shot a young teen and he is now dead! These are just 2 of the MANY stories out there! Even the people that are coming here "for a better life", I can understand that. What I don't understand is them coming here and getting FREE medical, FREE housing, etc. etc. etc.... Why the hell are THEY entitled, but we, as natural-born citizens are not, because we may "make too much money?!" My dad is 62 years old, and probably will work till the day he dies, because he isn't "entitled" to any of this, he doesn't have savings or 401K to fall back on. My husband busts his butt, and pays a LOT of $ every month so that we all have medical, why? so they can come here and drop a kid for free, at the expense of OUR tax dollars?! BS!!! You wanna come here, fine! Then WORK for your OWN medical, housing, food, etc. etc.! I agree with the above, as for the lawbreakers, molesters, murderers, gang-bangers, let them all rot on an island together! And don't come here and wave your Mexican flag, or any other flag for that matter! If you went to other countries with your American flag, you would most likely be shot!
So please, Guess Who, get a grip and a life!
To everyone else, have a lovely day!
Guess what?! At 17, you should not
be having sex! Duh! My mother started working outside the home when I was 12. She gave me VALUES of responsibility, of self-respect, and the consequences of my actions. I never had to be told not to have premarital sex. Unreal! If this stuff was coming out about Chelsey Clinton, you all would be all over it! What a meltdown!
You must be, I guess....nm
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THough I guess they won't be able to use them...
if we have two women running next time...lol. Guess I can put a big red X through "him" and write on "her." lol.
Well, then I guess I have a very
simple view of politics. I would think that if a bad bill is being put on the table, that enough politicians will see that it is bad and will vote against it, i.e. the bailout bill.
I guess that's just too simple. Agree to disagree.
I guess we will have to.............. sm
learn to say "Do you want fries with that?"
I'd say LOL if it weren't such a scary prospect.
Nothing to guess about. s/m
They'll be crying about their bottom line profit which they will pass down to consumers and they'll lay everyone off so they can send the jobs overseas. No guess about it. Then they'll cry some more when no one has any money to buy their overpriced stuff.
Well, guess I can guess! what it says.
We had several Cubans come over here back in the late 60's, all close friends, one a doctor who warned all of us then where medicine was going and he was right on the money. They fled Cuba for their lives at the time. I am watching my country unravel and there is not a dang thing I can do about it outside of this one vote.
My guess is...and only a guess....
because SS is in such pitiful shape now, this will take the place of it for those of us still working...while we continue to pay for those who are on social security NOW (with our payroll taxes) because in a congress in times past Democrats decided to "borrow" from social security and never paid it back. Liberal socialist ideas NEVER work. And people keep voting them in anyway and blaming it on Republicans. LOL. Like mice on a treadmill. Sigh.
Well, then, I guess we should
keep the 10 Commandments in church too. Then we could just go around raping, killing, stealing, lying, whatever we felt like doing. I believe 76 some odd percent of the U.S. describes their religion as Christianity. We let Madeline O'Hair or whatever her name is take away prayer in schools, etc. etc. I am sick to death of this p.c. stuff. If someone wants to be an atheist or muslim or what the heckfire ever, let 'em be. If they don't want to participate with the MAJORITY then I don't know of any law that makes them.
Guess who said this
"we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."
The New Yorker Magazine
This is not an opinion, simply a quote.
My guess would be..............sm
just like the rest of the sheeple, they have been duped into believing this man will turn the economy around with his smoke-and-mirrors approach to healing the financial condition of this country, which in turn benefits them as the money is redistributed back up to the top. Who do you think will ultimately benefit from Obmama's plan. That's right..the rich...as the lower and middle class have more disposable income, the money will trickle right back up to the top.
my guess is a lot of them
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I guess a lot of them
Question: I would like to know who "them" are?
Well, I guess you don't but
at least if you see it alive you know if it is sick. I posted earlier about chickens. I promise you if you ever saw the LIVE chickens loaded in the crates on the truck headed for the slaughter house you would NEVER EVER eat another chicken And that's a pretty site compared to the inside of a 500 foot chicken house where hundreds of chickens are raised never seeing the sunlight and standing toe to toe in their own excrement. Well.....get the picture? But by the time they get to the grocery store all neatly packaged...........want me to tell you where they get the cut up chickens, breasts, thighs, legs, wings? No? I didn't think so.
I guess it's okay then............sm
especially in light of the fact they were serving coffee! LOL
guess not................sm
ms, but I guess we will all get a bowl of that ice cream now.
I think she did just guess also (sm)
I know she had been reading some articles in political magazines about him, not Muslim magazines. So that part probably should not have even been mentioned in my post, as I think it had nothing to do with it. She is not Muslim. She is not religious at all I don't think. She was a coworker I enjoyed talking with but since I went back home to work I haven't talked to her much so have not discussed it with her recently. She and her husband consider themselves African-American although she is a mixed race. So she may have been following his progress because of that, not sure.
Then I guess you can....... sm
take it up with God when you see Him. This kind of reasoning is so in line with the "me, me, me" greedy society that we have now. And as far as adopted children....I know quite a few who view their adoptive parents, the ones who loved them and provided for them, as their "real" parents rather than the biologic parent and have no desire whatsoever to meet the biologic parent. And I am sure they are thankful that the biologic parent didn't take the easy way out for herself and deny them the right to life.
My guess is that they don't like him because he is ...
BLACK!
Let me guess....(sm)
Since you call yourself FeFiFo, your last name must be Fum? Or is it Pfffffft? I know you use that as a sign off a lot. Doesn't sound Jewish at all to me. LOL. First of all, *sm* is not a moniker; it simply means *see message.* And so what if he/she doesn't use a moniker?
Using a moniker isn't cowardly, it's protecting one's identity....that is unless you want to be considered cowardly as well since you do the same thing.
Try sticking to the subject for a while. *SM* (assuming it's the same person throughout this thread) has brought up some very interesting ideas concerning the situation, and yet the only response you have to these ideas (the other side) as well as mine (basically just backing up *SM*) is to call us ignorant. I thought this was a board for discussion, not a board for the 4-year-old *it's mine -- no it's mine* tantrum you seem to want to throw.
I guess that's no better than
Those first exects that got the bailouts and went to the resorts and spent $$$$$$$ at the spas.
I loved the replies to the ad. I say no more bailouts for anyone. NONE, NADA, ZIP. After seeing what these "people" do with the bailout money makes me sick. And the fact that nobody in congress questions it or takes the money back makes me even sicker. Congress should find out what they spent on that ad and demand they return that money or else find themselves in a nice little 8x8 room (metal bars not optional).
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