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I don't know where you get the cheap motel reference from

Posted By: glue on 2009-04-28
In Reply to: So you do anything to get reelected? You don't get it, do you? - TechSupport

But I think you are clearly a republican and represent your party perfectly.


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If this is in reference

to a Bob Dylan's song....it is supposed to be "everybody must get stoned."


If you weren't referring to that song, ignore my post.  LOL. 


I will. If you want a reference I will give it to you. You may not like it though...sm

I have heard this "Kool-Aid" reference several....sm
times on this board and don't know if you realize the history of your comment. I find it very offensive. You are referring to people that drank poison-laced K-Aid because they were so indocrinated in their false "Jesus/Messiah" doing so in the name of the SAVIOR! !. A cult that they allowed to take over their lives and ultimately resulted in the death of many people all in the name of God, with Kool-Aid, get it? Be very careful, it can be very scary.
I don't agree that the Biblical reference...
to "the numbers of his name" refer to numerology. We agree to disagree.
I challenge you to find any reference in any of
my posts referring to Barack Obama as a messiah.  Just one more example of the vicious twisting of words done by your ilk to suit your own agenda.
For the last time, the "spook" reference

was located in the body of the email sent out by these racist Republicans, followed by a little "wink-wink" suggestion that they forward the email to 20 of your friends makes you look like an out-and-out bigot."  THIS WAS PART OF THE BODY OF THE EMAIL IN QUESTION.  No reporter -- liberal or otherwise -- wrote this.  This is the whole POINT of the post:  See the red "spooked" word below?  It was written by Republicans as part of their racist email, because the word "spook" is a racial slur, a word that is no better than the "N" word.


From the "Racial Slur Database," defining the word "spook":  http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html


Spook     Blacks     Because of their dark skin, which can blend into the night, making them ghost-like.


Once again, quoting the email:


We've never seen President Obama in person, but we're pretty sure those pair of spooked white eyes against a black background don't quite do him justice. In fact, one could argue that forwarding an e-mail like this to 20 of your friends makes you look like an out-and-out bigot."


This is the last time I'm going to comment to your posts because either won't or don't get it!


I was making reference to an earlier conversation...sm
Look it up.
Please provide a reference showing that you were the first to mention Alinsky?
As you can see by the post below, the first reference to Alinsky found on this forum was made by Jules on 09/02/2008 regarding Alinsky's son's letter to the Boston Globe. Could you please provide us with an earlier reference indicating that you were the first to have mentioned Alinksy?
It was a Star Wars reference......you're the one that injected racism. nm

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I have not taken any cheap shots at anyone....
and you do have a nasty attitude. That thread was about Limbaugh's stand on veterans and you do one of those drive-by potshots that had absolutely nothing to do with the thread, and that, my friend, is indicative of a nasty attitude. So your pot kettle reference rings hollow.
Cheap methods?? Here's another

torture techniques.


The only **cheap methods* come from angry ignorant neocons who try to bully and threaten others on a computer message board because their team lost. Get over it and yourself already and seek some help for your anger and superiority issues. Too bad you don't support your country but fortunately the majority of people do.


http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rep-john-boehner-admits-torture-was-use


 


Huh? Even the reference disappeared! (Twilight Zone music plays). 1984. nm
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The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.

I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
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Lots of cheap shots there.

Especially Reagan, but nothing new. 


The Chickenhawk argument goes something like this: anyone who favors military action should not be taken seriously unless they themselves are willing to go and do the actual fighting. This particular piece of work is an anti-war crowd attempt to silence the debate by ruling that the other side is out of bounds for the duration. Like all ad hominem attacks, (argumentum ad hominem means “argument against the person”) it is an act of intellectual surrender. The person who employs an ad hominem attack is admitting they cannot win the debate on merit, and hope to chuck the entire thing out the window by attacking the messenger. This is a logical fallacy of the first order, because the messenger is not the message.


The messenger is not the message. That’s all you need to throw away the entire Chickenhawk response. But why stop there when this one is so much fun?


If you are ever see this charge again, you may want to reflect that person’s own logical reasoning in the following fashion: You may not talk about education unless you are willing to become a teacher. You may not discuss poverty unless you yourself are willing to go and form a homeless shelter. How dare you criticize Congress unless you are willing to go out and get elected yourself? Your opinion on a National Health Care System is negated out of hand since you are unwilling to get a medical degree and open a clinic. And as far as your opinions regarding the Democratic Underground or The Huffington Post are concerned, well, you can just keep them to yourself, mister, unless you can produce an advanced degree in Abnormal Psychology and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.


Using the internal reasoning behind the Chickenhawk argument means you cannot comment on, speak about or even hold an opinion on any subject that is not part of your paying day job. It is simple-minded and profoundly anti-democratic, which is why it so deeply appeals to those who sling it around the most.


But wait! There’s more!


If you accept the Chickenhawk argument – that only those actually willing to go and fight have a legitimate opinion on the subject of war – then that means that any decision to go to war must rest exclusively in the hands of the military. Is that what this person really wants? To abandon civilian control of the military? That’s the box they have trapped themselves in with this argument. Now to be perfectly honest, I think Robert Heinlein made a very compelling case for just this line of reasoning in Starship Troopers (the book, not the clueless projected travesty). Heinlein said that the only people who should be allowed to vote are those that have served in the military, since only they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of the state. I don’t agree with that. I think civilian control of the military has been one of the pillars of our nation’s success, and it has withstood the test of both World Wars and Civil ones. But that is the world you are stuck in when you toss that little Chickenhawk grenade.


Finally, if the only legitimate opinion on Iraq, say, is that held by the troops themselves, then they are overwhelmingly in favor of being there and finishing what they started. I recently received an e-mail from an Army major who is heading back for his fourth tour. The Chickenhawk argument, coming from an anti-war commentator, legitimizes only those voices that overwhelmingly contradict the anti-war argument.


Bill Whittle wrote that. He's a real live veteran and I happen to agree with him.


The stuff from China may be cheap
But it's junk! When I got married, I got an electric can-opener as a gift. (We're talking way back in the dark ages...the 70s). Anyway, it lasted almost 20 years til it quit and I had to replace it. Guess how long it's replacement lasted? Less than a year. Ditto my other appliances. Sure it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.

Add to that the recalls caused by the poisons in pet food and baby formula, all the leaded paint scares from Chinese toys....

We're better off without them. Buy American! You might pay more, but the stuff lasts longer and you're helping to keep our people working.

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor

CHEAP TOMATOES?


This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent


From a California school teacher - - -


"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:


I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.


Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.


Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK )


I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)


I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)


I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much he*l with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.


Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?


To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.


Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.


We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?


It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 an d that refuses to assimilate , and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about " political Correctness " that we don't have the will to do anything about it.


If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.


CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?


Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.


Consumers don't want expensive produce.


Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.


But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."


Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.


He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.


He qualifies for food stamps.


He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.


His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.


He requires bilingual teachers and books.


He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.


If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare . All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .


He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.


Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.


He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.


Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.


The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.


Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!


THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'


THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.


Overseas equals cheap labor
It is because labor is cheaper in third world countries, so corporations and their stock holders make more money with dirt cheap labor.  Bush and his group do not care about the middle class, he has proved that over the last..how many years..feels like 40 to me..Right now we are seeing this happen in medical transcription.  The company I work for sends out 30% of the work to India and they have a partnership with the Indian company.  The other day I had to call American Express and could hardly understand the guy his Indian accent was so thick.  They just care about making the rich richer.  Greenspan when interviewed on 60 Minutes said America is becoming the rich and the working poor with no middle class and he said something needs to be done about it..But this is the way many corporations, who just so happen to mostly vote Republican, want it.
$400,000 salary is dirt cheap compared to
Considering the daunting challenges he will in the aftermath of W's slash and burn regime, bringing together warring factions for the sake of cranking up a paralyzed legislative branch, jump starting a frozen economy on the brink of depression, reversing the handywork of the saber-rattling war machine, restoring America's tarnished global image and dodging assassin's bullets around every bend, I'd say he'll be earning every last penny of it.
FLASH! Your cheap methods won't work here.
Sadly for you, people on this forum are beginning to learn how to think.

First, you don't give your source - THE HUFFINGTON POST! Get a clue that we're on to you and won't let you get away with this crap for even one minute. Try this deception again and we'll bury you.

Second, the way Boehner used the word "torture" was taken entirely out of context as he did not call our methods torture, nor did he agree that this is what they amounted to.

Here's what Boehner said - and you'll notice that it is completely different from what you are TRYING so very hard to mis-portray:

"House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) is upset with the Obama administration for releasing the torture memos and thinks the time for a public debate is over — even though the debate just seems to be heating up.

"I don't — I don't see a lot of value in looking back. ... This is another side show here in Washington," he told reporters during his weekly news conference.

"When it comes to what our interrogation techniques are going to be or should be, I — I'm not going to disclose, nor should anyone have a conversation about what those techniques ought to be. It's — it's inappropriate. All it does is give our enemies more information about us than they need."

A reporter (me) interjected: "Do you think it's inappropriate to have a public conversation about the techniques we use?"

Boehner: "Oh, I think that conversation has occurred. The president has made decisions, and we should move forward."

Me, again: "But you think — you just said it was inappropriate. You don't think ..."

Boehner: "I don't — I don't see that we're going to learn anything that — that clearly members in a bipartisan way, the congressional leaders, didn't already know about these techniques."

John Bresnahan: "Shouldn't the American public know [inaudible]? Shouldn't they have an idea?"

Boehner: "Well, listen, I — I'll take a deep breath here. [Grabs podium and inhales.] We're talking about terrorists who are hell bent on killing Americans. All right? And — and 3,000 of our fellow citizens died. And there were techniques that were used by Americans and our allies around the world that helped keep America safe."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/Boehner_Inappropriate_to_talk_about_torture.html
It's ok....cheap shots like that reflect worse on poster than on me. (nm)
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Makes national health care look cheap
Only $75 billion to cover 95% of us. It will be hard to pass that up at such a bargin price.