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I have no clue why you added this Bush rant to my post...

Posted By: Observer on 2007-06-22
In Reply to: Head in sand - J. R. Carr

George Bush did not single-handedly send troops to war. There is that little ol thing called Congress who have to vote to allow him to go to war, he can't just do it on his own. And guess what...they DID. Democrats and Republicans alike. I just don't understand why some Americans don't understand THAT. Blame it on George Bush, like he was King or something. He did not do it alone. And you are right, I will NEVER accept that ANY soldier died for no reason. How arrogant of anyone to even suggest such a thing. Our men and women in uniform go where they are sent and they do their duty. Shame on ANY American who would publically say those brave young men and women died in vain, I don't care what their politics are. To me, that reeks.

I also do not know why it is so easy for some Americans to totally ignore the many reasons we went into Iraq. Have you ever actually read the Iraq resolution passed by Congress? I seriously doubt it. Hussein was in violation of so many UN resolutions it would take a ream of paper to list them. And he did finance and harbor terrorists. One of the perps of the Achille Lauro hijacking lived out his miserable life there being given free medical care and a free ride by the Hussein government. Zarqawi had his little terrorist training camp up in Northern Iraq for a year before we went in. One of Hussein's higher ups met with Mohammed Atta a couple of months before 9-11. What do you think they were talking about? The weather?

I don't believe I even mentioned the President in my post. I believe we went into Iraq for a good reason, we had been hit and we had to hit back harder. We did so in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have not had another major attack since that happened. Wonder why that is...????

My point is, the President is not singly responsible for the war in Iraq. The Congress is just as responsible. So when you start to lay blame and malign the names of good men and women who died for something they believed in, even if you don't....you should spread the blame evenly. Get off the Hate Bush train and back into reality.


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I agree, Lu. Thanks for your post. I added one
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I agree, corrected myself in a post below. I shouldn't have added that part as a factor nm
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She did rant when Bush was prez. Now everything is blue skies with a big pot'o'change
at the end of the rainbow!
Here's a clue. Ever heard of the Bush Doctrine?
somehow I think you might have more on the ball than she does.
why dont you get a clue before you post nasty things
I have a mixed family and a BLACK boyfriend not that is any of your business
so i have plenty of knowledge in what the girls think of me

not just black girls but ALL Girls.
including you apparently.

how was i spewing race hatred? why dont you read ALL MY POSTS about the one i just wrote about atlanta?

god you people make me SICKKKKKK
im so used to jealousy it just slides off my back!!!

Stop bringing up Bush - this post was not about Bush
I even said we have had some good presidents and some bad ones, but this post was not about Bush. It was about Obama. Yes Bush was one of the worst presidents I'm not arguing with you on that one, but everytime anyone brings up something about our current president they are shot back with Bush this or Bush that and on things that have nothing to do with what the current topic is about. Again, this was not about Bush. It was about Obama.
I should have added at the end - sm
"Oh say it ain't so Joe" She hit it dead on when she said that statement.
I guess these people have to be added to
the list of liars that includes Pres. Bush don't we....if this was all a BIG LIE then the dems were in on it too LOL
Too bad we added that skanky red state

god was added to the pledge of allegience
in the 1950s, during the Red scare, it wasn't originally written that way.
Not fair, gourdpainter. The Democrats added a lot of...
pork on their own, and dedicating a percentage of whatever payback might come out of this directly to ACORN would have been in it too, had the Republicans not held their ground that it be removed. This plan came from Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke, not "the Republicans." Paulson is a RINO and I have no clue what Bernanke's political affiliation is. If the ranking Democrats had held THEIR ground and all their folks with them, it would not have passed either, THEY have the majority. The Democrats pushed this harder than the Republicans...they didn't even involve the house Republicans until the last minute. So you can't lay this at the feet of "the Republicans."
I used to be a Repub, and when they added anti-abortion to
(And I'll never go back.)
No big loss. That poster added nothing of substance and sounded like he/she is a
troll from the conservative board.
This post was not an attack against Bush...sm
Even though WE were the slow on the draw, and I think the pres needs to work on that.

Your response was not so typical (well maybe) because I don't see where Bush is getting bashed here, but if you feel you must bring that up he should be working on a Crisis Intervention Task Force - a group who can think fast and make sound, quick decisions in times of crisis involving American Citizens.

Quite frankly, the media is being VERY unfair to the people who were trapped in Lebanon calling them whiners, ingrates, etc. When they speak they are not singling out people who complained (which I don't care if they complained, and why should you?), they speak as if the whole group was ingrateful, complained, and deserved to stay in the middle of a war zone.

Why don't watch the clip in the link above? You might get a different perspective yourself.
Nice rant....however...
look up perjury. Perjury is a lying UNDER OATH. A felony. Just plain old lying....like people do every day...just plain old lying. Just in case you did not know...when a President is sworn in he puts the hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the laws of the United States of America. Whoops!! So he not only perjured himself..he broke his oath. But no big deal...right? OF course not. You love generalities don't you? Liars like Bush and his ilk...I could say the same thing about Billary...liars and their ilk. They have both been caught in so many...as I am sure every other politician on the face of the earth.

Some of these posters remind me of the cliques in junior high who made fun of the fat kids or the kids in glasses, yada yada...same bullies, all grown up.

Sigh.
Geez.... RANT ON!
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Not to hijack your rant, but there
the Bush administration used as a pretext to declaring war. We went to war and into debt and lives were lost over a lie made up to fulfill a plan that was devised prior to 9/11.

And btw, gay marriage will not harm your marriage in any way, unless your DW/DH is having an affair on the side and decides to make an honest man/woman out of the other person.
Uh....I don't think I posted a RANT like you just did...
you might want to take a page from your own book and seek therapy. And if you really read closely...I was not blaming Obama for anything...LOL. I was saying those who were posting about Sanford were trying to take the conversation away from Obama. Geeeezzzzz, just figures. I knowwww you are in love with the Prez. I know you think he can do no wrong. With all he has done that you fail to recognize that is pretty much obvious. Your tolerant and open mind is showing again....NOT.
I did not post to start a Clinton/Bush war
Obviously there is a fundamental difference between those who support Bush and those who don't. We don't think the same way. Arguing about it gets us no where. I WILL be voting for a Democrat and I wanted some other opinions about the Democratic candidates. I did not want to bash anyone. I feel that all of the candidates are very good in their own ways. I just thought maybe someone would bring up good points that I may not have thought of.
The original post was about Bush not Clinton.
Bush is the one who is trying to claim that he has kept the United States safe from terrorist attacks, not Bill Clinton. You are right about one thing. I cannot stand George W. Bush. He he has been an embarrassment to the United States, destroyed our economy, and sullied our reputation throughout the world.
Thank you for another vote democrat or die rant...
PUMA is not just comprised of women. Obviously you are not getting all the news. THere are some po'ed men out there too. Talk about a hand-picked celebrity...you make this too easy! Nobody knew who Obama was until his speech at the last DNC convention. That was when Howard Dean trotted him out, the heir apparent, the only way they could beat Hillary Clinton...a rock star African American candidate. Orchestrated to do just that...dispossess Hillary Clinton and remove the Clintons once and for all. In case you hadn't noticed it, Howard Dean despises the Clintons. And the media jumped right on the bandwagon, doing everything in their power to thwart Hillary Clinton and pursue their love fest with Obama...because...and you on the inside can't see the forest for the trees...you are buying it hook, line, and sinker. And not only that, you are HELPING them. It is an amazing thing to watch.

Republicans smug? OMG. Pot kettle BIG time.

Uh....Obama said..."oh and by the way he's black." He did play the race card...but then so did BILL CLINTON. Geez.

No, he has not gambled away his experience card...because YOU keep bringing it up, which only brings your #1's lack of experience to the top and keeps everyone thinking about it.

THANK YOU! lol
nobody cares about your pro mccain rant
loser
Changing the subject to the tax rant
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Rant away if it makes you feel better.
You've gotton so many things wrong, it's laugable.

First of all, saying "people like you" once again shows your lack of understanding of the situation. I do not protest outside of abortion clinics. Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't.

Much like you don't want religion in your politics, I don't want somebody's stinking LACK of morals in MY politics. Gay marriage. Late-term abortion. Did you ever stop to think that THAT might be offense to others? No. Because people like you are so busy beating your chests like gorillas and proclaiming how liberal and open-minded you lot are. When all the while you're trying to stomp on anyone and everyone who has the audicity to display a little faith in God.

As far as "running all over the world" - you're just running your mouth instead of your brain. I go to Russia twice a year. Russia is not "all over the world" but I suppose I can blame the public school system who apparently didn't let you in on that little secret.

And "that perfect little baby" once again shows your inabilty to comprehend the situation. You have no idea about the conditions I've seen in Russian orphanages. They are little more than warehouses for children, so that particular high horse of yours is lame as well. Why don't YOU go advocate for the foster kids in America? Better yet, don't. It wouldn't be fair to the kids.

If you had any capacity for learning, you would have rememberd that I have a WHOLE HOUSEFUL of adopted children. All are special needs, all are from the foster care system right here in the good 'ol USA. So your comment "children here are just too much of a pain in the a$$ for you" is offensive and, once again, totally off base.

I have never rambled about how wonderful I am. Nor have I said how $hitty anyone else is, though in your case I will make an exception. If you think I'm boasting it's because you have an inferiority complex.

I'm sorry if you want me to cry and pat you on your little head and feel sorry for you and how hard the abortion was on YOU. I'm sure there are plenty of P.C. posters who will crowd all around you and applaud your courageous decision to kill an infant instead of doing the right, albeit more difficult, thing and leaving your abusive husband and caring for yourself and your child. Too bad you didn't have the support system of a good Christian church to help you make a better decision. I don't have any patience for people who martyr themselves and then want everyone to throw them a big pity party.
Sorry to burst your rant bubble, but...
There are Christmas parades, Easter parades, and Christian cruises, so why shouldn't there be gay pride parades and gay cruises?

I won't respond to the rest of your rant because, frankly, it made me dizzy just reading parts of it!
Feel better after your self-righteous rant?
The Palestinians are terrorits, who thrive on chaos and bloodshed.

If it makes you feel all giddy to root for the savages, go ahead. You've clearly closed your mind off to the truth. Just like they wanted you to.

Nice to know even monsters can find support from folks like you.

It must really burn you, though, that Israel is kicking the holy h3ll out of your little bunch of Arab buddies.

So what do you think about the warnings that Palestinans are going to resort to suicide bombers (since they clearly can't hit squat with their rockets)?

Who do you think they're going to strap those little puppies to, anyway? It won't be the "soldiers." No sir. They're targeting their recruitment at women and boys. Yeah, that's real gallant.

Back to the Stone Age! Shouldn't take long now.
Man's IRS rant hits a nerve. sm
An article on a letter to the Editor of a newspaper making its rounds on the Internet.

http://www.suntimes.com/business/1467702,w-dear-irs-texas-barnett-taxes030909.article

Here is Mr. Barnett's letter:

Taxed to excess
Dear IRS,
I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed April 15, but all is not lost.
I have paid these taxes: accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog licence tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting licence tax, fishing licence tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle licence registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, Colorado property tax, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma and New Mexico sales tax, and many more that I can’t recall but I have run out of space and money.
When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an honest mistake. Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom Dashelle and, of course, your boss Timothy Geithner. No penalties and no interest.
P.S. I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.
Ed Barnett
Wichita Falls


Oh, and it's cool, the Bush is Jesus post on the C board. SM

Yeah, typical libs.


Funny it's okay to post inflammatory reports about Bush (nm)
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This is just unfathomable to me (caution - rant enclosed)
I said once I'd never post on this board again, but this isn't a political issue, it reaches across the board. This just blows me away. 60 days' punishment for stealing this child's innocence and scarring her forever - it's just so far beyond appalling that I can't even think of a word that fits. I have to wonder if this guy would have been off the streets longer if he'd stolen a purse. Heaven forbid if he'd tortured a dog the way he tortured this child - they'd have probably thrown away the key! If he'd only gotten 60 days for it, you can bet PETA would have been all over it, but who is there for this little girl?Anyway, I have fired off a letter to Vermont's governor, for all the good it will probably do, and I am also sending prayers for this poor child.
Free is your rant, not Obama's proposal.
to put a fox in charge of the chicken coop? The economy is a wreck and cannot be fixed by those who refuse to even discuss the issue.
Outsourcing/China (warning - rant)

Hubby was telling me last night that China's economy is now tanking because ours is.  Factory workers over there were showing up for work only to find their business had closed because of lack of orders from the U.S.  India may be next.  You never know.  I don't see it happening with MT but like I said, you just don't know.  Did you see their work days?  6 days a week and something like 12 or 14 hours a day?


I hear lip service from Nobama/Maobama about cutting taxes to bring our businesses back but don't see him acting on it.  He's a one-termer.  Carter got us in a heap of trouble which Reagan (I know union employees aren't fond of him) had to get us out of.  All Nobama is doing is having construction/building jobs sprout up here and there.  And where does the money come from to pay for his multi-trillion dollar spending?  You got it - us.  Those jobs will eventually fizzle out, our country will be poorer and those people will once again be unemployed.. 


Dems coined the phrase Voodoo Economics for Reagan's Trickle Down Economics.  Whether or not you liked the man, he did a world of good for this country.  He did cut capital gains taxes and cut taxes for the rich.  Trickle down 101:  You cut taxes for the rich, they can afford to hire more employees, more often than not, at better wages.  Unemployment is down.  People go out and spend more money because they are employed and can afford to.  During Reagan's terms in office, he cut taxes immensely yet the government took in more money.  People would much rather spend their money the way they want than have the government take it and spend it.  


Folks, we work for our government.  Our government should be working for us.  We should not live in fear of the IRS.  I attended a TEA party on April 15 and will attend more such events.  We should have a government for the people, of the people and by the people.  The protest was very peaceful and guess what?  Not a bit of litter was left to be found when it ended, like the disgrace that was left after the inauguration in Washington, DC. 


We are getting so far away from a constitutional government, it's not funny.  Actually, my opinion is that we are currently a socialist government.  You know the next step after socialism?  Communism. 


I read the most recent list of who they consider a terrorist.  Hoarding food?  Um, yep.  Better buy it now in case a depression hits.  Glad I have a breadmaker.  Wouldn't want to have to spend $50 on a loaf of bread.  Buying lots of ammo?  Sure, but then again, we do competition shooting.  Guns?  Yeah, we have our share, but variety is the spice of life (Hubby bought me a Macarov but I didn't care for the way it operated (too hard to load the mag), especially after the slide came back and sliced my thumb open 5 times, bad lacerations - my fault, was handling it wrong, so I got a Glock).  My husband is an Iraqi war vet.  That makes us both domestic terrorists.  Yet neither one of us even has the heart to even discipline our dogs.  We're both very gentle people.  Of course if someone broke into our home, we would defened ourselves. 


I'm sorry for the rant but I just don't see Nobama caring much about outsourcing.  I really really really hope I am wrong and what he is doing for our country is the right thing but I truly resent being labeled a domestic terrorist because I see us headed for a depression and am stocking up on food, and my husband happened to be in the military during the Gulf war. 


Thanks for listening. 


Wow another angry rant by a SORE LOSER!
You LOST.  The Good Guys Won.  Get OVER IT! You'll feel better when you begin to confront your angry, hurt feelings and realize how much America repudiated your TREASON and your HATE. 
Refer to the post below where Bush has pretty much doubled the money
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didnt say bush appointed him. said paulson did. besides that post wasnt for you n e way.
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You are losing it gt, starting to scream and rant. Best rest now. nm

I didn't rant, honey, just gave my opinion........sm
I did try to explain it to you, very nicely. You and others just won't listen.


I don't mind, really I don't. Makes it so much easier for McCain to win.


It ain't over till the fat lady sings......


Let's chat again on Nov 5, shall we?
No sale.....sounds like a rush limpball rant
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Stupid question....I got Rick Santelli on a rant with this link.....
did I do something wrong? LOL.
Here's another clue.....

I figured you were being sarcastic.  Just wanted to make sure you were being as nasty as I thought. 


You know, Minnesota and Wisconsin both prepared for several thousand evacuees and we were more or less turned down due to distance from Louisiana.  In my home town a bunch of us offered long-term housing/jobs/resources/transportation for 100 folks but then were told we'd probably have no takers.


What I'm trying to say is that things are not always as portrayed, both by the left and the right and the in-between.


I would also suggest you ponder why the need to be nasty as it really does not advertise your political philosophy very well.


Here's a clue. SM
I have never and would never say I was a liberal. I would rather die.  Literally.   There are a lot of people who post on here as MT.  There are also variations.  MT2, OldMT, AncientMT, DecrepitMT...well, you get the picture.  I am not sure why you feel it is your function in life to answer every post about gt, unless you ARE gt.  Hey, you can accuse, so can I.  But the fact remains, you are mistaken.   I rarely post here anymore and my posts are always polite and have been for some time. 
Hey, buy a clue. Not everything is about YOU! nm

You don't have a clue who he is. ....
or what he's about, or you couldn't possibly say that. How sad.
You really don't have a clue that there's
Ignorance: Sometimes it's bliss.
You don't have a clue
Go back to vicious and nasty.
You don't have a clue either........
If you knew anyone with a small business and asked them what this would do for their pocketbook they would tell you their business would end up dying. Obama has very cleverly disguised to most who do not pay attentin and do not care that small businesses will NOT be harmed by his little cuts. Well, all the mandated policies that sound so great have to be paid for. Obama's idea of small business means any business bringing in 250K a year. Maybe you think that's a lot of money but it is nothing. That money has to pay for employees, expenses, workmen's comp, huge taxes already, the list goes on and on and many are hanging on by a thread as it is.

These same companies whom he sees to think will do just fine will be out of business. They will be mandated to death. They cannot afford paid medical leave while employing someone else to do their job and then what? If you knew anything about running a business with paid employees/benefits, etc., you would know Obama's plan has put a nail in their coffin.


You would not have a clue.nm
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You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
Think about it. Here's a clue. I was being sarcastic
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