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I meant... NOW shoe...nm

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-09-14
In Reply to: Which is exactly why your leftist/lib basher blood boils...sm - Democrat

But I know you'll stay because you need us to validate yourself. You're not at your best unless you are in your leftist/lib basher mode, eh. Keep it up, and people like you will expose the right brotherhood for what it's worth.


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Clean your shoe, why don't you.
Because obviously, that smell is following you around.

There is no Air America scandal and certainly nothing you can(reasonably, although we know you don't take that seriously)blame Rachel Maddow for. Air America's former CEO made some bad decisions (gee, that never happens does it?) because he had connections with the charity in question and the fledgling AA was in trouble. However, that was HIS mistake and he is no longer at AA (yes, some people actually get rid of poor performers, unlike our WH). AA didn't do anything wrong and there are no charges against them because there's nothing to prosecute. DESPITE that they have acknowledged that they feel badly about the entire affair and have offered to repay the money even though they are not obligated to do so. I'd say that's far from scandalous - and very much unlike anything you'd see a NeoCon do - they don't pay back ANYBODY even when it IS their fault. Why, here you have the Republican governor of Kentucky under investigation and he declares he's going to use the power of the office to PARDON HIMSELF. Nice schtick if you can get it, huh.

And when are you going to give up and admit defeat anyway? Still waiting for Karl Rove to flood the airwaves with his particularly sour mutilation of the truth? You can't win this one no matter how many radio stations you try to smear. You're all suddenly looking pretty sallow standing there in the spotlight all by yourselves. Face it - Bush will never live this down. His appointments will never live this down. They did wrong, the whole world has seen it. Even Shepard Smith and Geraldo have seen it. Even Newt Gingrich has seen it! Incredible huh? It hardly matters what they do now. The damage is done. Americans who actually care will save as many as they can from here on out and the news is only going to get worse for you and your conning stormtroopers. A lot of those people will survive. A lot of them will talk. It's not only Democrats who are enraged over this egregiously horrible bumbling. If I were you I'd just slink off into the shadows and not make it any worse for myself. For once Democrats and real Republicans are united against this deplorably out of touch and elitist bunch of Washington money-suckers. Don't blame us for the political mileage - that's just a sad side effect. We'll take it but we'd rather thousands more people had lived instead of having their corpses nibbled by rats in the filthy flooded streets. We owe them. So just stand down - this one is NOT SPINNABLE.
Shoe's on the other foot now
I didn't support Clinton's foray into Bosnia. A lot of the quotes from Tom DeLay have good points, much as I hate to admit it. So why can't he see that now? And why can't Bush? Maybe because they never had any motivation to help anybody in the first place, but rather to dominate the world and get more control over what oil is left!
well.....................if the shoe fits...
you know the old saying. the majority rules and Obama will win.

Sorry to offend you, but if the shoe fits...

As I said, I am a normal woman, have three children, six grandchildren, and a husband who is a blue-collar worker.  As for stupid, this VP choice of McCain's is stupid.  Seriously, she has no credentials for being the leader of the USA in a time of war, in a time of major economical challenges.  Governor of Alaska?....mayor of a small town?....that's it?....  Why aren't you VP?  I am sure you have as much knowledge as she does.  She said she doesn't know anything about Iraq, although her son is going there, and said she doesn't know what a VP does.... Honestly, if I was governor of any state, I would not even ask "what does a VP do?"  I would go find out for myself.  Any drive to do her own investigating?  Any curiosity?  Do you seriously think she could be President of the US if something happens to John McCain?  America has far too many problems to gamble on a way too outside chance. 


As for Obama's arrogance, that is something you heard and repeat like a mina bird.  Guess what?  There is arrogance in every one of these politicians, otherwise they would not be in the public eye.  I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the American people, yes I am, and if that is arrogance, so be it.


 


As for Obama being arrogant, that is something YOU heard and repeat.


If the shoe fits...wear it!
There are an abundance of right-wing links posted on this forum with lies, smear tactics, shameful racist comments, and outrageous claims regarding Barack Obama. I have yet to see any of these types of links posted by liberals regarding John McCain. This has nothing to do with bias and has everything to do with fact!
i agree, but if the shoe was on the other foot
and anytime you posted something you got called wretch, a@@, snake, or the other names, and then it was to everything you were posting I think you'd get tired of it too. All I wanted was the insults to stop. Now it looks like I have to change my moniker to get it to stop.
I guess if the shoe fits
My post was meant to challenge the assumption that all midwesterners fit into the coastal stereotypes created for them as enumerated. However, if you choose to perpetuate that stereotype by taking my posting as an attack, thereby almost reinforcing the illiterate part (being literate is more than just reading words- it's understanding them, too), then, by all means, make us midwesterners proud.
Well, maybe the little bald guy whacking his shoe on the table was right....
"You will be taken over from the inside with no one firing a shot."
So you think it is more helpful to watch shoe being thrown
at our current leader than to hear about the new administration's cabinet members?
Some one stop this woman from shoe shopping and spinning...sm
First of all, other than the obvious damage control (spinning) Ms. Rice is doing, what are the comparisons of Iraqi War to America's Civil War?? Second, isn't her not my department response to Katrina just the biggest taletell sign that it is time for her and her boss to go?
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Condi uses Civil War to slap Iraq critics

Secretary of State Rice compared the Iraq war with the American Civil War, telling a magazine that slavery might have lasted longer in this country if the North had decided to end the fight early.

I'm sure there are people who thought it was a mistake to fight the Civil War to its end and to insist that the emancipation of slaves would hold, Rice said in the new issue of Essence magazine.

I know there were people who said, 'Why don't we get out of this now, take a peace with the South, but leave the South with slaves?' Rice said.

Rice also bristled at the notion that the Bush administration's slow response last year in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina was because of the race of the majority of the victims.

I resented the notion that the President of the United States, this President of the United States, would somehow decide to let people suffer because they were black, Rice told the magazine.

I found that to be the most corrosive and outrageous claim that anybody could have made, and it was wholly and totally irresponsible.

Asked if she felt personally accountable, Rice said, The government did its best. People aren't perfect, and this response was not perfect. You know, I do foreign policy, I don't run Homeland Security. I don't run FEMA. I do foreign policy. She added, I did what I could to coordinate the international response.

Bill Hutchinson
The shoe thrower would have been executed on the spot under Saddam....nm
...most likely.....
Protests erupt in Iraq in support of shoe-throwing reporter
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.2815505803

What I meant was....
why can we not protect the unborn children first? Are they not as deserving as homeless, poor, etc.? That was my point. I do not see, nor do I ever expect to see, liberals exhorting us to take care of unborn children as a part of taking care of the least among us. I have seen Conservatives exhort to take care of the least among us, including unborn children. Conservatives just want to put a limit on it, and regulate it a little more closely (as far as welfare, etc.). I don't have a problem with that either. And I give privately to Christian organizations that DO take care of the least among us. It does not have to go through the government to be effective. I guess that is where we differ.
What I meant was...

He should have said "no comment" first thing when he addressed the American people - when he said the whole "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" thing.  At that point he was not obligated to comment, and he shouldn't have.


I am not a "Clintonite" or whatever you said.  I just think he was a more intelligent person than Bush.  Although I despise Bush, I really do like his wife Laura.  I think she seems like a very caring, very genuine person.


I do NOT plan to vote for Hilary.  I plan to vote for Barack Obama if he makes it that far.  I think he could really improve the health insurance crisis in America.  I never hear Republican candidates talking about making healthcare more affordable, and therefore I will probably vote for a Democrat.


I meant
In the last paragraph I meant to write posting "false" information, not "fall".
Not quite sure if it is a pub or a dem who meant DNC....lol nm
nm
Sorry that was meant for OP nm
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I think you meant that some
or maybe even many Obama supporters are educated. Just like McCain supporters.
Meant I wonder......
.
Her's what I meant
Not true meant that I'm not a rabid Republican (I'm a conservative).  That's why the RINOS need to get the heck out of the RNC.  They've ruined it.  Also, they're frauds.
yes, that is what I meant
I have no idea why I typed Otis Small?? Good night GP
Not what I meant.

What I meant was that I hope he has the opportunity to serve out the full four years and/or that this election isn't contested for some reason resulting in the involvement of the Supreme Court.  For example, I see the GOP is filing a lawsuit against Obama, alleging he used campaign funds when he visited his grandmother for the last time.


I hope we can all get along and not be as divided as we have been for the past few years, and I hope that nothing happens that would cause such division. 


Again, I thought the post you wrote was very classy.  Thanks. 


I meant...
As O's father is Muslim and O's mother Christian, they had to decide how they were going to raise O.
That what I meant.
I am roman catholic.
What? Oh, you must have MEANT to say
nm
I only meant where did it come from?
WHY the OP posted it

but aren't you classy

obviously he meant that he wants
to win over the moderates and fight the terrorists with his strategy.
I believe what you meant to say was
the hard working class of people that this entire country was founded on is going by the wayside, instead being replaced by an invasion of another country and their people to add to the already overwhelmed small population of people that work to pay for those who have spent generation after generation mooching off of the working class.

If not being lazy makes me self righteous, then so be it.

That is not what I meant.

Out of all the earmarks in the bill 60% were dems and 40% were pubs.  I didn't mean the whole bill was 100% earmarks. 


Meant what I put
knew such smart people here (I) could just get ......

still going at it, thanks for the snippy response.
I meant to say..
We already have laws in place that work to protect people from being harmed or killed.
You never meant a socialist Jew! sm
What do you think they come up to you and say hi, I am a socialist Jew.  Do you know Noam Chomsky?  How about David Horowitz's parents?  How about the Rosenbergs?  Shall I go on.  Do you wonder why almost all the actors blacklisted in Hollywood way back when were almost all JEWS?!? 
That isn't what he meant but there is no use debating you.

Maybe logical thought escapes you.


Wow, did I say Liar. I really meant sm
deluded liar.  Yes, that's much better.  
It was not meant as an attack, I
that it might not be the wisest idea to go to a *liberal* board and call yourself something that runs counter to their belief system, and then expect to be treated like a long-lost son.

Further, I said the Democrats frustrate me to no end, and it is precisely for the very reasons you stated. They were too afraid of being branded as **unpatriotic** and **unsupportive of the troops**, blah,blah,blah. In their defense, however, sometimes they simply have not had the votes to over ride the president's agenda. Thank goodness for people like Murtha.

I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, as I think we have found some common ground. I think the other thing that happens is that sometimes words, if not chosen extra carefully, can come off sounding what they are not.
I meant I felt like it was an act....
I believe it was theatrics. The Hollywood reference was meant to say they would be proud of the acting job...nothing to do with all of Hollywood being amoral, though I believe a good portion of it is. But that could be said for other areas as well. I am also aware of staunch conservatives in Hollywood and I think God for them.
I never meant to infer that
W should NOT have gone to VT. If that is how you read it, then you misread or I mistyped. Of course he should have been there; it is just that there was SO much publicity about this tragedy and it does not appear (to me) that there is much of that for the American soldiers in Iraq; nothing on a national level.

I also never said that conservatives did not care about the war. What I meant was that in a country where only 50% of eligible voters turn out it is not unusual that so many Americans are disconnected from this war. I remember hearing people talk about WWII and seeing movies (not valid verification but nonetheless) and it seemed that the entire country was aligned behind **the cause.** I don't see that now. I bet you the family farm that I could go down to one of the city high schools or middle schools and ask a group of teenagers what they know about this war, what do they think we should or should not do and I feel certain I would get pretty much blank stares. That is what I mean about Americans not caring...maybe that is not the correct term. Most Americans are not engaged and don't feel a connection or much of an allegiance to **the cause.** No one sacrifices anything for this war but then that is one definition of secularism I have heard **Secularism is a life without sacrifice.

You see staying in Iraq as creating some kind of democracy where the people will live a better life. I don't. I see that the longer we stay, the more people die, both Americans and Iraqis. Altho I did not agree with this war, or any war for that matter, the possibility that Iraq could have been changed for the better did probably exist 4 years ago, but not now. I really believe our being there will make no difference, aside from more death, than us not being there. It is not cut and run to me. It is cut your losses and in my opinion that would be loss of life.

As far as Clinton and Somalia; I don't know much about the details of that situation. He was concerned about bin Laden; a lot of people were for a long time. I don't think this country would have supported a war in the middle east before 9/11 happened and that played a part as well. There is quite enough blame to go around for not foreseeing (sp) 9/11.


Knew what you meant
Isn't it awful when your own relatives treat you like dirt. My sister is mormon and she actually thinks I'm on the same level with manson, dahmer, hitler, etc because I'm not mormon (we both grew up going to methodist services with 12 years of sunday school). Inlaws treated us like garbage cos we didn't go to their church when we lived near them. I am a deeply spiritual person but I am not a Christian and I count myself blessed not to be in their crowd.
Nope, exactly how I meant it
Pretty self explanatory.
You Meant to Say McCain, Right?
Obviously you've confused the 2 candidates.  It's poor Senator McCain who can't think/talk at the same time.
Meant to add "sm"
xoxoxoxo
you likely meant should "not" pay for it. nm
xx
I think what she meant by the last comment - sm

was that now McCain has nothing to say about Obama's lack of experience because Palin doesn't have much either.  I didn't take it necessarily as a bash. 


How can someone be pro-life and pro-death penalty?  A life is a life right?  Most of the pro-lifers I know, have listened to have made comments about God's the only one who can take a life, well if that is someone's stand how can you be pro-death penalty.  I'm not saying that that is her reasoning, God, but just a question.


I'm all for cleaning up gov't too, including your party, but isn't what she is under investigation for a bit of gov't corruption too with the whole ex-BIL incident.  I read that somewhere too about firing the guy because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex.


meant "depressing" LOL
nm
no, no, that's not what I meant - sorry, will try to explain myself
Ok, my bad....I did not "articulate" myself well with that statement. I don't believe Obama is linked with the Iranian president, all I was saying was either side could take an off the wall statement like that and say it. I guess I used a really bad example, but the statement that if one or the other is elected we are going to have another attack on our country or this or that. Nobody knows.

I do agree with you about the religion issue. I actually believe all religions are bad in that way, but I didn't really mean that if Obama is elected they will be "out to get us" (and I don't believe that), I just used a bad example. I just thought the original post was a huge faux pas. Hope that helped explain it a little.
meant to say "know by NOW". See, now
nm
meant meek - but either way it does not fit with what I see
:)
i knew what you meant
I took no offense, but I do get a little sensitive as I would have loved to have some children when I was younger (but then I look at the Menendez brothers and my own nephew and say - what a relief- smart decision for me) HA HA. I did understand your post as you intended it that if man and woman don't unite there is no offspring, but I was just saying I believe that we can all live together. Man and woman can off their offspring they want and the others who wish to pursue an alternative way just won't have kids. I'd rather be with someone of my own gender and be truly and blissfully in love and married to her and not have any kids, rather than have kids and be married to a miserable person just because he's the other sex.
It's likely she meant ELITIST. nm

I think he meant he wanted it available to everyone -
he never said he would require you to buy what the government offered - that was more Hillary's plan. He just says he wants it available if you don't have insurance.
what I meant was, this is being said from JM crowd? (NM)
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Personally, I think she meant (Lou
.