Iran playing rope-a-dope with Obama...when will he learn?
Posted By: TechSupport on 2009-04-15
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So today we get these "conciliatory" advances from Ahmadinejad regarding their nuke program. Only someone living in fairyland will fail to recognize this old ploy from Iran for exactly what it is. Like Iran's invested $billions in their nukes and they're just going to throw it all away.
If Ahmadinejad can show that Washington is "negotiating" with him, he will shore up the position of his highly unpopular party for the elections in June. He can say "Look - for years we've taken it to America, and now they're coming our way."
It will also undercut the democratic opposition in Iran if Washington has any truck with this deceitful regime, which has never been any more trustworthy than the most psychopathic liar that you've ever known in your life. It will only give them more time to continue to work on their nukes, and will also undercut Israel.
Rope-a-dope is one thing, BO, but even Mohammad Ali's punch-stupid opponents weren't this easy. Your kumbaya fantasies are incredibly naive, and frighteningly dangerous.
Israel, looks like you'll have to do the job again.
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Another Rope-A-Dope Opportunity for Russian President Medvedev
Quite apart from Obama already having been sucker-punched diplomatically by Putin and Medvedev (but apparently having learned nothing from it), and having absolutely no confidence that the Russians will be honest brokers anyway, I hope Obama leaves us enough nukes to deal with Iran and North Korea - and whatever rogue countries they sell their missiles to.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/31/russia-agree-start-talks-seek-reduce-nuclear-arms/
It has never been a winning strategy to deal with regimes like these from a position of reduced strength. Never. Ever.
Obama = Hope. McCain = Dope.
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NO! You mean Obama is playing a shell game?
It's just too simple and too obvious. All the obots here won't be able to compute that information. It'll have to come up a bit 'em in the butt!
Obama won, but you will all learn soon that
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If Obama wins we cal all learn Farsi -
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Iran warns US. Israel Livini Blasts O's Iran plan
Iran warns US.
http://www.startribune.com/world/33937339.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
Israel concerned about ties with new US administration.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=060dd72c-c876-4e0d-b39f-c835c26b256c
And we have to worry about our own economy. Afraid to find out what is next.
Obama to create Iran outreach post...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/19/obama-will-create-iran-outreach-position/
Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:
0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.
Who is this human being promised to all?
Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.
WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:
Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."
So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.
Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:
0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.
Who is this human being promised to all?
Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.
WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:
Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."
So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.
Didn't Bush call him a Tyrant?
Very. Give them enough rope and
Hannity and Palin end up hanging each other. Those campaign scare tactics seem to be taking hold across the board...just not in ways they had intended. The Jews for Jesus videos and commentary on the web do help shed bright light on Palin's own pastor controversy. Perhaps that why McC has blacklisted Rev Wright (his fear of Rev Right), though I suspect they will break that promise before it's all over. Glad to see your grouchy mood has dissipated.
Obama admin. skeptical of Iran's election results.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/13/official-obama-administration-skeptical-irans-election-results/
U.S. officials are casting doubt over the results of Iran's election, in which the government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner Saturday.
U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News.
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini apparently has released a statement calling the results "final" and hailing the election as a legitimization of the regime and its elections.
Turnout appears to have reached 82 percent, an all-time high. But when asked if the turnout figures should be considered suspect, given the "not credible" counts for Mousavi and Karoubi, the official said: "Oh, it has to be [considered suspect]."
There are already reports of violence outside Mousavi's campaign headquarters, and of huge demonstrations for both sides in central Tehran, with Mousavi trying to make his way to the one in his behalf. Even if widespread violence occurs, analysts see no prospect that this event would lead to a full-scale attempt at revolution or the toppling of the regime.
The dominant view among Obama administration officials, though not uncontested, is that the regime will look so bad as a result of whipping up Iranian hopes for democracy and then squelching them that the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to President Obama's gestures of engagement.
Dope as in dumbo, not drugs.
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My guess would be FLORIDA. Most dope-
And that statement is ridiculous, Iran and Iraq enemies, remember the Iran-Iraq war? Iraq would jus
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Hey, thanks for playing!
I think most of us progress throughout lives from one avocation to another. MT was not the very first thing I ever worked at, and probably won't be the last. (Especially if this VR thing finally finds me.) But everything I've done, everything I've read and everything I've experienced has helped me develop.
With all those cards he is playing.........sm
it is easy to see why he is not playing with a full deck of cards.
Just playing by liberal rules
It doesn't matter if something is supposed to be funny or not. In the liberal world every statement is taken literally. According to GT even thinking something stereotypical or racial should be grounds for dismissal from your job or worse yet a trip to the gallows, but in the next breath she posts a blatantly stereotypical article about our nations regions.
Oh did I take what GT said out of context? Did other people take what GT said out of context? Gee, gosh, sorry...but cccording to the LIBERAL rules nothing is ever taken out of context. If you utter the words like *black* or *abortion* in the same sentence. Then you're a racist...case closed.
Don't blame us for enforcing your rules. We didn't make them, but you have to play by them too, or we'll call you out...
Have a nice night....
McCain is playing the "woman"
She has no experience at all... I can't wait to see Biden chews her up and spits her out; hope she takes her Midol.
I cannot believe that bracelets is the issue here at all.
Everyone is crying about the economy and Barack Obama says he's worried about us the middle class (which we are as MTs), and a bracelet is all you people have to worry about??? Hello??????????????
That claim is SO old. Anyone playing that old record
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And I'm not sitting playing the woe is me, pity
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The playing field has never been more level!
Thanks to affirmative action, white heterosexual males cannot get jobs especially when competing with a person classified as a minority. Mintorities get college scholarships and acceptance into good schools so universities can meet their quota. It's ridiculous! There is a black man in the White House --- I think affirmative action has done its job!
It's time for everyone, no matter their race, be treated equally. The best PERSON for the job should get the job. The best student with the best transcipts should get the admission letter and scholarship. There shouldn't be quotas to fill. NOBODY should get preferential treatment anymore!
Just leveling the playing field...(sm)
I thought it was about time for a left wing post to balance out those gazillion posts from the right. You think its garbage because its from the left -- about the same thing that I think about posts from the right.
As far as Rush goes, it doesn't much matter if you aren't ga-ga over Rush because obviously those republicans that actually have a say in govt are very much ga-ga over him. You did catch Michael Steeles' apology? Priceless.
Playing dumb is not your strong suit. nm
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So playing the gender card to get votes
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On a level playing field that would be correct...
this is not a level playing field. I don't see her encouraging Obama to do town hall meetings with McCain...and after 18 months running for the #1 seat, he just this past month sat down with someone who was not in the tank for his candidacy. You really don't see how lopsided this is? Obama being inteviewed by the lambs and the left wanting to feed her to the wolves.
School vouchers would even the playing field.
Obviously, you've never had a child in the public school system in a large city.
Vouchers would serve to level the playing field for those of us whose children's schools have gone down the tube thanks to the influx of "at risk youth" (probably the most overused term in existence).
When a public school gets a FAILING grade on their 'no child left behind' (another bogus waste of taxpayer money) progress scores, those kids are allowed to transfer to another school.
Then guess what happens. The school all those inner-city kids are bussed to gets a FAILING grade the next year. So, it's a big fat wad of BS that 'at risk' youths are 'at risk' because they don't have ACCESS to a decent education. From my personal experience, and those of hundreds of thousands of other moms around the country, they simply drag the good school down to their level.
My daughter used to go to an A-rated public high school. Then the 'ghetto school' (the name the STUDENTS called it, so don't rip on me about it) failed for its fourth year and all these 'students' were shoved into the A-school. I guess someone thought they weren't getting their fair shake, and all that was needed was to put them in the 'good' school.
I'm sure you know what happened. That first year, there were countless disruptions for weapons on campus, drug activity skyrocketed, the campus became a 'lock-down' school where all kids' backpacks were searched, teen pregnancies went through the roof (on purpose, which makes me sick) and the students' grades plummeted. The A-school subsequently received Fs each consecutive year.
The kids who ruined their own school didn't give half a drip about learning anything. They slacked off in the back of the class, mouthed off to the teachers, and made it impossible for anyone to learn anything, as the teachers became wardens rather than instructors to deal with the disrespectful little delinquents.
My daughter is now home-schooled. Yet I still have to pay income tax and county 'school tax' for the little monsters who invaded it and ran it into the ground.
And it has nothing to do with color, before you get all high and mighty on me. My daughter's school was a pretty even mix of Black, Caucasian, and Hispanic before AND after the forced bussing. It's about the 'culture' of the kids that came in. To them, hip-hop culture is the only way to live. Gangstas and ho's - that's the ultimate career goal in their minds.
So let's not pretend that vouchers are undesirable. That's a fat, steaming pile of B.S.
Throwing money year after year after year at kids that simply aren't interested in learning is what really drags down the system.
School vouchers would even the playing field.
Obviously, you've never had a child in the public school system in a large city.
Vouchers would serve to level the playing field for those of us whose children's schools have gone down the tube thanks to the influx of "at risk youth" (probably the most overused term in existence).
When a public school gets a FAILING grade on their 'no child left behind' (another bogus waste of taxpayer money) progress scores, those kids are allowed to transfer to another school.
Then guess what happens. The school all those inner-city kids are bussed to gets a FAILING grade the next year. So, it's a big fat wad of BS that 'at risk' youths are 'at risk' because they don't have ACCESS to a decent education. From my personal experience, and those of hundreds of thousands of other moms around the country, they simply drag the good school down to their level.
My daughter used to go to an A-rated public high school. Then the 'ghetto school' (the name the STUDENTS called it, so don't rip on me about it) failed for its fourth year and all these 'students' were shoved into the A-school. I guess someone thought they weren't getting their fair shake, and all that was needed was to put them in the 'good' school.
I'm sure you know what happened. That first year, there were countless disruptions for weapons on campus, drug activity skyrocketed, the campus became a 'lock-down' school where all kids' backpacks were searched, teen pregnancies went through the roof (on purpose, which makes me sick) and the students' grades plummeted. The A-school subsequently received Fs each consecutive year.
The kids who ruined their own school didn't give half a drip about learning anything. They slacked off in the back of the class, mouthed off to the teachers, and made it impossible for anyone to learn anything, as the teachers became wardens rather than instructors to deal with the disrespectful little delinquents.
My daughter is now home-schooled. Yet I still have to pay income tax and county 'school tax' for the little monsters who invaded it and ran it into the ground.
And it has nothing to do with color, before you get all high and mighty on me. My daughter's school was a pretty even mix of Black, Caucasian, and Hispanic before AND after the forced bussing. It's about the 'culture' of the kids that came in. To them, hip-hop culture is the only way to live. Gangstas and ho's - that's the ultimate career goal in their minds.
So let's not pretend that vouchers are undesirable. That's a fat, steaming pile of B.S.
Throwing money year after year after year at kids that simply aren't interested in learning is what really drags down the system.
Stop playing the blame game!
There are millions of people who were not "sucked" into buying more house than they could afford. Unfortunately, many people got greedy and bit off more than they could chew. It is very easy to blame someone else for your bad judgment, but the bottom line is that you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Smoke that!
I am SO TIRED of minorities playing victim!
So the black firemen totally SUCKED on the test. Maybe they didn't study as hard. Or they weren't as smart to begin with. Or they got loaded the night before the big test. Who cares why the stunk on the test. The fact was they STUNK! I'm sure a lot of WHITE firemen sucked at it, too.
But, instead of people saying, gee, those guys sucked on the test, they decided to pretend like there was something wrong with THE TEST instead of the guys who sucked at it. For no other reason than a bunch of hard-working WHITE GUYS did better than the majority of other people.
Yet another example of how this country bends over backwards to help minorities. They don't want EQUAL rights - they want RIGHT-OF-WAY - as in - clear the decks, let the 'special cases' go to the front of the line.
It's pure and utter BS. Typical of the lunatics on the left to defend such racism, while still maintaining their oh-so-precious "victim" status.
I'm not playing your sick demented mind games gt
You want me dead...admit it...you do. You are one sick, sad puppy.
Go put on your party clothes and get to your local people died, so leftists can celebrate parties. You admitted it was party time. Go now...shooo...
Playing both sides of the field in case she gets in power...sm
Big business 101.
Now you're playing Sarah Palin games--
I'm perfectly on point. My reasoning is that there is no reason to fear 1 man, because it takes a lot more than 1 man to make a change. Members of either party don't always back their party's bills. In fact, a lot of them don't, as the case was Monday.
The hard part for you here is that what I am saying is true and you don't want to admit that, ergo you would be admitting that there should be no fear.
Smart move on their part; looks like they are playing games with all of us.
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trust me...you're playing right into the media's hands.....sm
thinking exactly what they want you to think about her.
Doesn't surprise me a bit.
Notice how the dems are the ones always playing the race card...
and then blaming it on the pubs....typical.
Another one from the Conservative board. Is it playing nice to call someone an insufferable
I believe the whole thread containing this post should be deleted, since they are all along the same lines and contain personal attacks against people who don't agree with them. Fair is fair, right?
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You insufferable elitist snob. sm
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I am sure they have had to widen the doorways in your house to get your head through it. Get over yourself.
It's kinda fun to watch you playing mental bumper cars
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They never WILL learn - that's what's so sad.
their same mistakes over and over again, because they just can't envision any other way to do things or to address this country's problems than what's been done for the last 8 years. They're so obsessed with running round and round, trying to out-shout everyone about their 2 loser candidates, while simultaneously trying to convince us (and themselves, maybe) how the Christian way is the ONLY way, that they can't use their brains (or their mouths) for anything else.
What hypocrites. If they sling mud and bash a candidate, it's 'god's will'. If the dems do it, they're 'evil-doers'.
All I can say is, if the blinder-wearers get into the White House again, then 'lordy, help us all'. I'll sure be scrutinizing, & wondering about, every jet that comes in a little too low over my city.
Everyone up there should have to learn
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you can learn a lot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany
Something you should learn (sm)
Just because people do not believe or think the way you do about Obama does not automatically mean they have some underlying dark secret for hating him. I voted for Obama, but that doesn't mean I hate McCain. I simply do not agree with his policies or his record. I think you are just waiting for someone to say anything on here that you can misconstrue into some kind of racial argument. The fact that YOU are the one bringing this up speaks much louder than your question ever could.
And the more I learn........... sm
about the mindset of liberals, extreme or otherwise, the more conservative I become. So I guess we cancel each other out. I used to think that, at some point, this country would return to a more moral base, but I sadly don't see that happening with the likes of you and other liberals who push such wicked agendas. What a pity.
If Bush could learn to tell
the truth, maybe more of us would like him. It's hard to like someone you can't believe or trust.
Bush probably had 100% support when the U.S. attacked Afghanistan after 9/11.
And he USED that tragedy, and on the blood of every victim of 9/11, he led us into HIS war against Iraq. He fooled everyone, not only Americans in general but also Congress, who believed him.
What if there really WAS a threat to this country tomorrow? What would happen if he wanted to invade another country based on his "word" that we were in imminent danger? Who would believe him? I doubt he'd be able to fool Congress again. He's supposed to be on TV Tuesday night, supposedly to explain more about Iraq. There's no point in my watching it. I'm not willing to subject myself to more of his lies. I'm just treading lightly and hoping this country, if not the world, can survive the next 3 years of his administration and that he doesn't do too much more harm.
Bush lied about the Iraq war. Plain and simple. If someone lies to me, it doesn't matter whether I like them or not. I simply can't trust someone who lies. PERIOD.
The biggest issue (for me, anyway) is trust.
I invite you to go learn who she is...
there are a lot of women who know who she is, who have been following her career. She is the whole package.
learn the definitions
Since you apparently don't think you're paying enough in taxes, here's an idea. Instead of my paying even more in taxes, why not have you go ahead and do it? You seem to think that gov't can run your life better than you can and that you would obviously make wrong/poor decisions otherwise.
Look up the words in the dictionary. Donald Trump said the same thing last PM on Greta about taxing us even more, and how it'd ruin things even more.
Just take the cash out of your wallet and hand it over to those who can make it just fine w/o living under socialism. Your naivity is just scary.
He needs to learn to multitask
He will have more than one crisis on his hands if he president. He should be able to handle this and campaigning, and the debate if wants to look qualified.
If his VP can be a governor and raise 5 kids, maybe she is the better candidate.
You know, the more I learn I don't care for either also.
God help us!
And you better learn to read. What
do you think? With all the crap out there on the dems, you still think they had nothing to do with it? Rose colored glasses is what you wear. Better get your ears and eyes examined.
'Nough said. I'm not getting into an argument with you but it's all out there in black-and-white.
those who do not learn from history....
You should know the rest. and yes, I learned plenty....I learned plenty when my wonderful friend left to go to work on 9/11/2001 just like every other ordinary day, just doing his job, and never came home again. Sorry, but if we don't keep remembering, we are doomed.
tHOSE WHO LEARN FROM HISTORY
I agree with you 200%. I did not vote for Obama. I always vote based on the Bible as does my family and at our Bible Chapel. I always vote against abortion and always towards marriage of one man and one woman, I do believe that Obama is a socialist and he will be introducing social medicine. It makes me think that we're closer to the rapture than we think.
When will you learn? She didn't
buy those clothes. The RNC did and most of them went back right away because they didn't fit. She didn't ask for those clothes. They figured she has to "look the part of a VP." Since when do VPs have to look like a million.
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