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tHOSE WHO LEARN FROM HISTORY

Posted By: Judy on 2008-11-07
In Reply to: Those who refuse to learn from history..... sm - m

I agree with you 200%.  I did not vote for Obama.  I always vote based on the Bible as does my family and at our Bible Chapel.  I always vote against abortion and always towards marriage of one man and one woman,  I do believe that Obama is a socialist and he will be introducing social medicine.  It makes me think that we're closer to the rapture than we think.




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those who do not learn from history....
You should know the rest. and yes, I learned plenty....I learned plenty when my wonderful friend left to go to work on 9/11/2001 just like every other ordinary day, just doing his job, and never came home again. Sorry, but if we don't keep remembering, we are doomed.
Those who refuse to learn from history..... sm
are doomed to repeat it.  The following is a link written by an elderly woman who grew up in Nazi Germany.  See how many dots you can connect. 

http://carylmatrisciana.com:80/x2/content/view/74/1/
I did not learn that in any of my history classes
I am not sure why everyone is so nasty tonight! At any rate, I thought it was an interesting read. I am not being a smarta$$, but was there a relevance to modern politics that I missed, or was it just an interesting article?
"Those who don't learn from history are
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You really do need to learn more about the history of the Bible
And how it came to be. It is stories and was assembled by men. These are the same men who decided what they would put in and what they would leave out.

Sorry but I don't trust these men.
Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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It's a fact of history. Read up on it. You might learn something.

History is history and opinion is opinion. You need to learn the difference.
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They never WILL learn - that's what's so sad.
their same mistakes over and over again, because they just can't envision any other way to do things or to address this country's problems than what's been done for the last 8 years. They're so obsessed with running round and round, trying to out-shout everyone about their 2 loser candidates, while simultaneously trying to convince us (and themselves, maybe) how the Christian way is the ONLY way, that they can't use their brains (or their mouths) for anything else.

What hypocrites. If they sling mud and bash a candidate, it's 'god's will'. If the dems do it, they're 'evil-doers'.

All I can say is, if the blinder-wearers get into the White House again, then 'lordy, help us all'. I'll sure be scrutinizing, & wondering about, every jet that comes in a little too low over my city.
Everyone up there should have to learn
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you can learn a lot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany
Something you should learn (sm)

Just because people do not believe or think the way you do about Obama does not automatically mean they have some underlying dark secret for hating him.  I voted for Obama, but that doesn't mean I hate McCain.  I simply do not agree with his policies or his record.  I think you are just waiting for someone to say anything on here that you can misconstrue into some kind of racial argument.  The fact that YOU are the one bringing this up speaks much louder than your question ever could.


And the more I learn........... sm
about the mindset of liberals, extreme or otherwise, the more conservative I become. So I guess we cancel each other out. I used to think that, at some point, this country would return to a more moral base, but I sadly don't see that happening with the likes of you and other liberals who push such wicked agendas. What a pity.
If Bush could learn to tell

the truth, maybe more of us would like him.  It's hard to like someone you can't believe or trust.


Bush probably had 100% support when the U.S. attacked Afghanistan after 9/11.


And he USED that tragedy, and on the blood of every victim of 9/11, he led us into HIS war against Iraq.  He fooled everyone, not only Americans in general but also Congress, who believed him.


What if there really WAS a threat to this country tomorrow?  What would happen if he wanted to invade another country based on his "word" that we were in imminent danger?  Who would believe him?  I doubt he'd be able to fool Congress again.  He's supposed to be on TV Tuesday night, supposedly to explain more about Iraq.  There's no point in my watching it.  I'm not willing to subject myself to more of his lies.  I'm just treading lightly and hoping this country, if not the world, can survive the next 3 years of his administration and that he doesn't do too much more harm.


Bush lied about the Iraq war.  Plain and simple.  If someone lies to me, it doesn't matter whether I like them or not.  I simply can't trust someone who lies.  PERIOD.


The biggest issue (for me, anyway) is trust. 


 


I invite you to go learn who she is...
there are a lot of women who know who she is, who have been following her career. She is the whole package.
learn the definitions

Since you apparently don't think you're paying enough in taxes, here's an idea.  Instead of my paying even more in taxes, why not have you go ahead and do it?  You seem to think that gov't can run your life better than you can and that you would obviously make wrong/poor decisions otherwise. 


Look up the words in the dictionary.  Donald Trump said the same thing last PM on Greta about taxing us even more, and how it'd ruin things even more.


Just take the cash out of your wallet and hand it over to those who can make it just fine w/o living under socialism.  Your naivity is just scary. 


He needs to learn to multitask
He will have more than one crisis on his hands if he president. He should be able to handle this and campaigning, and the debate if wants to look qualified.

If his VP can be a governor and raise 5 kids, maybe she is the better candidate.
You know, the more I learn I don't care for either also.
God help us!
And you better learn to read. What

do you think? With all the crap out there on the dems, you still think they had nothing to do with it? Rose colored glasses is what you wear. Better get your ears and eyes examined.


'Nough said. I'm not getting into an argument with you but it's all out there in black-and-white.


When will you learn? She didn't

buy those clothes. The RNC did and most of them went back right away because they didn't fit. She didn't ask for those clothes. They figured she has to "look the part of a VP." Since when do VPs have to look like a million.


 


Obama won, but you will all learn soon that
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that is interesting. Learn something new
every day!
Yes. We learn more every day how crooked the
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All the more reason to learn from his arrogance

I promise if you learn to spell. nm

I would be glad to learn more about her, so I will, but briefly
just heard is only a one term Governer from Alaska and she is NOT Pro-Choice, so we will see.
Whoa, where did you learn math??
You cannot do your calculations based on the fact that everyone in the lower 48 and Hawaii would NOT vote for her!! 
The first thing about multitasking is to learn...
how to prioritize. So he has delegated the most important issue facing this country right now to "call me if you need me" in favor of himself and his campaign.

That tells me all I need to know about his decision-making process. Barack first, country second.

'Nuff said.
Maybe if you stopped yawning, you could actually learn
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Bridger, would you learn how to post here?

I scrolled down a few lines and saw nothing, so I thought you had said all you wanted to say.  Exited out.  Could you not have deleted all those lines?


Again, I am telling you that you are breaking copyright laws here by your posts, no links, just a name, a posting of a full article.  You cannot do that.  It is infringing on copyright laws.


By the way, are you capable of presenting your own thoughts on any subject without posting someone else's opinion/editorial/comments?


Just wondered if that was a left-wing propensity?


 


Can you say "cap and trade"? Now learn what that is...
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If Obama wins we cal all learn Farsi -
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It still is for those of us with an open mind to think and read and learn
There have been some very good information posted here. These are events that are going on right now that are important, and this is where we can catch up on a lot of the news that the mmm is just not telling us.

For those with an agenda to try to keep suppressing what is happening? Well I see that here too. I stopped coming here for about a week because the board was overtaken by the libs who kept bashing anyone who had a different opinion than theirs and didn't drool over and worship O'Messiah like they do. Once in awhile there would be a good issue (not always the b/c issue), but seeing as it is still a hot topic and NOT being just ignored it is important for people to know what is happening. If you don't think the background of O'Messiah, his shady character, etc, and how our next president is getting elected is important. Then I'd just say keep your eyes closed and move on.

The only truth in America is that there is no truth???????? The truth is there. Some people would like to know. Others just don't care. Now that's pretty sad.
Learn to spell lesson first before you preach right
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They are nice boys. Learn how to post pictures. nm

Please learn English - bestest not a word, you MORON
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Listen with an open mind, ask questions, learn. nm
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Al Qaeda is in Iraq.. full of terrorists.We learn more
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Iran playing rope-a-dope with Obama...when will he learn?

So today we get these "conciliatory" advances from Ahmadinejad regarding their nuke program.  Only someone living in fairyland will fail to recognize this old ploy from Iran for exactly what it is.   Like Iran's invested $billions in their nukes and they're just going to throw it all away.


If Ahmadinejad can show that Washington is "negotiating" with him, he will shore up the position of his highly unpopular party for the elections in June.  He can say "Look - for years we've taken it to America, and now they're coming our way."


It will also undercut the democratic opposition in Iran if Washington has any truck with this deceitful regime, which has never been any more trustworthy than the most psychopathic liar that you've ever known in your life.  It will only give them more time to continue to work on their nukes, and will also undercut Israel.


Rope-a-dope is one thing, BO, but even Mohammad Ali's punch-stupid opponents weren't this easy.  Your kumbaya fantasies are incredibly naive, and frighteningly dangerous.


Israel, looks like you'll have to do the job again.


 


Really good, balanced, historical report, SO GLAD you posted!! Something for everyone to learn in t
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So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm
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I know history
Jews and Communism?  Dont get the link there.  Jews are definitely not communist and even in the old world, *Old Europe*, Austria, Germany, Poland, they were not communists..they were shop owners, jewelry makers, prosperous bankers..I have never met a communist or socialist jew and I grew up in NYC.  To quote history, to remember history, to study history, does not mean we are contributing to terrorism..or aiding our enemies..that argument makes no sense.  My major in college was history, minor anthropology.  So, I pretty much know a bit about history.  When people close their eyes to the truth, refuse to admit what is really happening or what type of administration is running the country, follow like sheep without question, that is when we are headed to ruin..not when there is free flow of ideas and talk of history, even quotes from the most evil of them..
What is history but....
windows that open and close. You are correct. However, you still want to beat Bush up for going to Iraq. We went. Nothing can change that. CLinton did not fight them in Somalia like he should...we cannot change that. However, the reason for not leaving Iraq post haste is as much about running yet again from Al Qaeda as it is about abandoning the rank and file Iraqi people. You have to understand that I have been in the military culture for a long time and have daily talks with someone who has been there and done that...he does not form my opinions and we have been known to butt heads...however, he does give me great insight. He knows who the enemy is. He has faced them.
It is history, kam...look it up.
Democrats are the ones who were against freeing the slaves. When Abe Lincoln and the Republicans(yes, he was a Republican) freed the slaves and after the war passed legislation to give them the vote, the Democrats immediately passed poll taxes and literacy tests so that the newly freed slaves would not be able to exercise their new right to vote. African Americans did not get clear right to vote until the Civil Rights Act in the 1960's, when enough Northern Democrats bucked the party and joined the Republicans to pass that act. It is all history, all fact. Look it up.

history and the

impact of Supreme Court decisions on the role of government?  I guess it really has nothing to do with being VP.  All you need is a rah-rah speech, a sense of victimization and a flag pin and you are good to go.  Sorry, sometimes I think.


 


Here is a bit of history.

This election has me very worried.  So many things to consider.  About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than.  I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another.  I must say this drives my husband crazy.  But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with.  About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'.  I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight.  We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life.
 


Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California.  He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.  During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip.  Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family.  My question - Where did he get the money for this trip?  Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.  When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York.  It is at this time he  wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry.  Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia?  It's not cheap! to say the least.  Where did he get money for tuition?  Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year.  Why Chicago?  Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
 


By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago.  Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year.  Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.  About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School.  Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School?  Where did he get the money for Law School?  More student loans?  After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down.  But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what?  They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm.  Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago.  In 20 03, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money'  for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).  With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?  On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased.  Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
 


 Now, we have Obama running for President.  Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss.  She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first.  Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran!  Do we see a pattern here?  Or am I going crazy?
 


On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.  This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
 


Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan?  They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama.  Where is that money coming from?  The poor and middle class in this country?  Or could it be from the Middle East? 


And the final bit of news.  On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos.  Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'.  When questioned, 'he made a mistake'.  Some mistake!


 All of the above information I got on line.  If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.


 Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?
 


 A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!


Don't you know your history?
Yes there has always been a President Elect. They become President Elect after the electorates vote the 2nd week in December. Until then they are still just a citizen. However the media is so anxious to get Bush out (and I don't blame them), that they are not reporting the truth (although that doesn't surprise me from what I saw during the campaign).

However "Office of the President Elect" is new and invented (created out of nothing) by the O.

Here's what one of a hundred different sites says...

Obama Invents 'Office of the President-Elect'

Monday, November 10, 2008 12:54 PM

By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size


Barack Obama has created a stir by proclaiming that he heads “The Office of President-Elect” — an office that does not officially exist.

At his first news conference on Nov. 7, Obama stood at a podium bearing a sign that read: “Office of the President-Elect. Also, his Web site, Change.gov, bears the words “Office of the President-Elect” at the top of its home page.

Writer Larry Anderson referred to the “made-up little title” on the American Thinker Web site, and declared: “I nearly busted a gut ...

“Once again, [Obama] can’t wait to invest himself with the trappings of office.”

Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin wondered: “What other make-believe offices are they going to invent between now and Inauguration Day? I can’t ever recall in my lifetime any mention of such an office.”

Technically speaking, Obama may not even be the President-elect, according to the American Sentinel Web site.

“Megalomaniac Obama’s ego grows even more insufferable,” a weekend posting reads.

“Yes, he will be [president-elect]. But he’s not officially yet, until the Electoral College votes.

“The Constitution provides that on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in their respective state capitals. It’s then that they formally elect the President of the United States, based on the general election results.”

Has anyone ever in history won by this
large of a margin & had the electoral college cast their votes opposite? No. You're grasping at straws.
Are you saying there's a different history?
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How's this for a history........ sm

Scroll down to the bottom of the 5th page of this report and start reading.  Ogden has argued against opposed the Child Internet Protection Act of 2000, challenged the Child Obsenity and Obscenity Enforcement Act and has represented numerous p*ornographic publishers in various causes.  I think this is more than enough reason to oppose him as DAG.


http://www.scribd.com/full/11607068?access_key=key-18yr2u50t8o0sz54rbrl


You don't know your history very well, do you?
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