learn the definitions
Posted By: Goldie on 2008-09-19
In Reply to: so what is democracy to you... - MTPockets
Since you apparently don't think you're paying enough in taxes, here's an idea. Instead of my paying even more in taxes, why not have you go ahead and do it? You seem to think that gov't can run your life better than you can and that you would obviously make wrong/poor decisions otherwise.
Look up the words in the dictionary. Donald Trump said the same thing last PM on Greta about taxing us even more, and how it'd ruin things even more.
Just take the cash out of your wallet and hand it over to those who can make it just fine w/o living under socialism. Your naivity is just scary.
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Definitions....see inside
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative
http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal
There's much more. Just Google for different sites for unbiased definitions. Go to reliable sources, not opinions of the other side, to see definitions.
Then decide for yourself.
Do us all a favor. Go look up the definitions of tax cut
The only way anybody gets money back more than what they pay in is if they earn very low wages and have many children. The income bracket they are in refunds all revenues back to them that they paid in. In addition, they get a tax CREDIT only if they qualify for earned income tax credit or child tax credit. For example, lowest bracket tops out at $7825. Their tax rate is 10%. Whatever they have paid in over $782.50, they get back and ONLY what they have paid over that amount, because this is based on the tax rate. They get more back only if they have qualified for EIC or CTC.
It you get a tax rate cut, you cannot benefit from it if you do not earn wages. These guys also will not get any additional refundable tax CREDIT as that is paid against tax liabilty. If you take issue with this, show me how I am wrong here.
Economic definitions.............
Recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
Depression is when you lose yours.
Recovery is when Obama loses his.
Look LVMT, you look up all the little definitions you want. You are still wrong. sm
Very very wrong. Christopher Hitchens is hardly a neoconservative. Neither am I and neither are most of the other conservative posters here.
Oh please humor me. Have you pieced together some definitions?
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Has nothing to do with "humoring you" or "my" definitions.
It's important for you to discover the complexities for yourself (Google is all you need), and "my" definitions don't matter unless I am the one doing the analysis.
But I'll start the ball rolling.
1. "Prenatal care" starting at what point in the gestation (1st trimester? 2nd? etc.)?
2. Involving what different features or services?
3. Does the study adequately filter out other coincidental factors that tend to characterize some populations that do not receive prenatal care, but which also might impact infant survival, such as poor nutrition, smoking, alcohol and drug use, squalid living conditions and even low educational levels?
4. What time period after delivery will be used to define a relevant "infant death"?
5. What causes of infant demise will be considered relevant to the question?
6. Will all "modes" of delivery be included?
7. Will "high-risk" pregnancies be included or excluded?
8. Will premature deliveries be included or excluded?
The list of problems that have been identified in the design of studies that look very scientific and conclusive, and have been published in respected journals, has proven to be considerable.
Some have tried to get around these problems using a technique called "meta-analysis", which tries to reconcile and synthesize the findings from multiple studies, but this hasn't been very successful either.
The problems worsen when you simply use empirical evidence - say, by comparing birth/mortality rates in different countries with different "levels" of prenatal care. One study "showed" that the mortality rate in the US was higher than that in one of the Baltic states (I've forgotten now which one), but failed to take into account that in the US we try to deliver and save infants who are much more premature than they try to salvage in the other country - so naturally, our "failure" rate would look worse.
The other problem is really more or less endemic. "Prenatal care", however defined, will represent some set of services and characteristics. We may assume that all of them do not contribute equally (and some, perhaps not at all) to infant survival. This means that even if you can resolve all of the study design problems and show that prenatal care contributes to survival, you haven't said very much that's useful. It might be, for instance, that a simple regimen of multiple vitamins has as much impact on survival as all of the other factors combined. If so, have we presented a case for purchasing "prenatal care" as a constellation of services (from the standpoint of healthcare economics), or should we focus on finding ways to see that pregnant women get the multiple vitamins?
When we see "studies" of complex issues - especially those involving an interplay between myriad scientific and social or cultural factors - we should always put on the brakes and find out more about how the study was done, what assumptions it made, and keep a sharp eye out for flaws in the design of the study (which, I am sad to say, crop up more frequently than you might suspect), even or perhaps especially in the field of medicine. People who study things do have agendas, and sometimes the agenda amounts to grants of $millions in research funds, or sponsorship of the study by an organization that has a "mission", etc. A lot of what masquerades as "scientific proof" in the field of medicine, unfortunately, is nothing of the sort. Let's see now - are eggs good for us or bad for us?
I guess our definitions of a Patriot differs
and I guess that's okay, but the truth will come out in the wash, eventually. All the media filters in the world will not keep the truth coming from coming out eventually, and we may all be surprised at what the truth actually is which may be drastically different than either one of our points of view.
They never WILL learn - that's what's so sad.
their same mistakes over and over again, because they just can't envision any other way to do things or to address this country's problems than what's been done for the last 8 years. They're so obsessed with running round and round, trying to out-shout everyone about their 2 loser candidates, while simultaneously trying to convince us (and themselves, maybe) how the Christian way is the ONLY way, that they can't use their brains (or their mouths) for anything else.
What hypocrites. If they sling mud and bash a candidate, it's 'god's will'. If the dems do it, they're 'evil-doers'.
All I can say is, if the blinder-wearers get into the White House again, then 'lordy, help us all'. I'll sure be scrutinizing, & wondering about, every jet that comes in a little too low over my city.
Everyone up there should have to learn
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you can learn a lot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany
Something you should learn (sm)
Just because people do not believe or think the way you do about Obama does not automatically mean they have some underlying dark secret for hating him. I voted for Obama, but that doesn't mean I hate McCain. I simply do not agree with his policies or his record. I think you are just waiting for someone to say anything on here that you can misconstrue into some kind of racial argument. The fact that YOU are the one bringing this up speaks much louder than your question ever could.
And the more I learn........... sm
about the mindset of liberals, extreme or otherwise, the more conservative I become. So I guess we cancel each other out. I used to think that, at some point, this country would return to a more moral base, but I sadly don't see that happening with the likes of you and other liberals who push such wicked agendas. What a pity.
If Bush could learn to tell
the truth, maybe more of us would like him. It's hard to like someone you can't believe or trust.
Bush probably had 100% support when the U.S. attacked Afghanistan after 9/11.
And he USED that tragedy, and on the blood of every victim of 9/11, he led us into HIS war against Iraq. He fooled everyone, not only Americans in general but also Congress, who believed him.
What if there really WAS a threat to this country tomorrow? What would happen if he wanted to invade another country based on his "word" that we were in imminent danger? Who would believe him? I doubt he'd be able to fool Congress again. He's supposed to be on TV Tuesday night, supposedly to explain more about Iraq. There's no point in my watching it. I'm not willing to subject myself to more of his lies. I'm just treading lightly and hoping this country, if not the world, can survive the next 3 years of his administration and that he doesn't do too much more harm.
Bush lied about the Iraq war. Plain and simple. If someone lies to me, it doesn't matter whether I like them or not. I simply can't trust someone who lies. PERIOD.
The biggest issue (for me, anyway) is trust.
I invite you to go learn who she is...
there are a lot of women who know who she is, who have been following her career. She is the whole package.
He needs to learn to multitask
He will have more than one crisis on his hands if he president. He should be able to handle this and campaigning, and the debate if wants to look qualified.
If his VP can be a governor and raise 5 kids, maybe she is the better candidate.
You know, the more I learn I don't care for either also.
God help us!
And you better learn to read. What
do you think? With all the crap out there on the dems, you still think they had nothing to do with it? Rose colored glasses is what you wear. Better get your ears and eyes examined.
'Nough said. I'm not getting into an argument with you but it's all out there in black-and-white.
those who do not learn from history....
You should know the rest. and yes, I learned plenty....I learned plenty when my wonderful friend left to go to work on 9/11/2001 just like every other ordinary day, just doing his job, and never came home again. Sorry, but if we don't keep remembering, we are doomed.
tHOSE WHO LEARN FROM HISTORY
I agree with you 200%. I did not vote for Obama. I always vote based on the Bible as does my family and at our Bible Chapel. I always vote against abortion and always towards marriage of one man and one woman, I do believe that Obama is a socialist and he will be introducing social medicine. It makes me think that we're closer to the rapture than we think.
When will you learn? She didn't
buy those clothes. The RNC did and most of them went back right away because they didn't fit. She didn't ask for those clothes. They figured she has to "look the part of a VP." Since when do VPs have to look like a million.
Obama won, but you will all learn soon that
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that is interesting. Learn something new
every day!
Yes. We learn more every day how crooked the
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All the more reason to learn from his arrogance
I promise if you learn to spell. nm
I would be glad to learn more about her, so I will, but briefly
just heard is only a one term Governer from Alaska and she is NOT Pro-Choice, so we will see.
Whoa, where did you learn math??
You cannot do your calculations based on the fact that everyone in the lower 48 and Hawaii would NOT vote for her!!
The first thing about multitasking is to learn...
how to prioritize. So he has delegated the most important issue facing this country right now to "call me if you need me" in favor of himself and his campaign.
That tells me all I need to know about his decision-making process. Barack first, country second.
'Nuff said.
Those who refuse to learn from history..... sm
are doomed to repeat it. The following is a link written by an elderly woman who grew up in Nazi Germany. See how many dots you can connect.
http://carylmatrisciana.com:80/x2/content/view/74/1/
I did not learn that in any of my history classes
I am not sure why everyone is so nasty tonight! At any rate, I thought it was an interesting read. I am not being a smarta$$, but was there a relevance to modern politics that I missed, or was it just an interesting article?
Maybe if you stopped yawning, you could actually learn
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Bridger, would you learn how to post here?
I scrolled down a few lines and saw nothing, so I thought you had said all you wanted to say. Exited out. Could you not have deleted all those lines?
Again, I am telling you that you are breaking copyright laws here by your posts, no links, just a name, a posting of a full article. You cannot do that. It is infringing on copyright laws.
By the way, are you capable of presenting your own thoughts on any subject without posting someone else's opinion/editorial/comments?
Just wondered if that was a left-wing propensity?
Can you say "cap and trade"? Now learn what that is...
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"Those who don't learn from history are
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You really do need to learn more about the history of the Bible
And how it came to be. It is stories and was assembled by men. These are the same men who decided what they would put in and what they would leave out.
Sorry but I don't trust these men.
If Obama wins we cal all learn Farsi -
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Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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It still is for those of us with an open mind to think and read and learn
There have been some very good information posted here. These are events that are going on right now that are important, and this is where we can catch up on a lot of the news that the mmm is just not telling us.
For those with an agenda to try to keep suppressing what is happening? Well I see that here too. I stopped coming here for about a week because the board was overtaken by the libs who kept bashing anyone who had a different opinion than theirs and didn't drool over and worship O'Messiah like they do. Once in awhile there would be a good issue (not always the b/c issue), but seeing as it is still a hot topic and NOT being just ignored it is important for people to know what is happening. If you don't think the background of O'Messiah, his shady character, etc, and how our next president is getting elected is important. Then I'd just say keep your eyes closed and move on.
The only truth in America is that there is no truth???????? The truth is there. Some people would like to know. Others just don't care. Now that's pretty sad.
It's a fact of history. Read up on it. You might learn something.
Learn to spell lesson first before you preach right
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They are nice boys. Learn how to post pictures. nm
Please learn English - bestest not a word, you MORON
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Listen with an open mind, ask questions, learn. nm
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Al Qaeda is in Iraq.. full of terrorists.We learn more
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Iran playing rope-a-dope with Obama...when will he learn?
So today we get these "conciliatory" advances from Ahmadinejad regarding their nuke program. Only someone living in fairyland will fail to recognize this old ploy from Iran for exactly what it is. Like Iran's invested $billions in their nukes and they're just going to throw it all away.
If Ahmadinejad can show that Washington is "negotiating" with him, he will shore up the position of his highly unpopular party for the elections in June. He can say "Look - for years we've taken it to America, and now they're coming our way."
It will also undercut the democratic opposition in Iran if Washington has any truck with this deceitful regime, which has never been any more trustworthy than the most psychopathic liar that you've ever known in your life. It will only give them more time to continue to work on their nukes, and will also undercut Israel.
Rope-a-dope is one thing, BO, but even Mohammad Ali's punch-stupid opponents weren't this easy. Your kumbaya fantasies are incredibly naive, and frighteningly dangerous.
Israel, looks like you'll have to do the job again.
Really good, balanced, historical report, SO GLAD you posted!! Something for everyone to learn in t
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So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm
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History is history and opinion is opinion. You need to learn the difference.
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