It's Barney Frank's fault??!!??!!
Posted By: Truthseeker on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: Barney Frank is to blame for the economic - downfall............sm
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Know that. That's my name for Barney Frank.
Kinda fitting, I think.
Barney Frank is a big culprit in this...
however, it is the HOMEOWNERS responsibility to READ YOUR CONTRACT. Geesh people, the lenders did loan to those they knew couldn't pay, but the people who bought a $300,000 home making $50,000 cannot be excused, they too bear responsibility. Anyone facing foreclosure now who gets bailed out should never be allowed to own another home without 20% or more CASH downpayment. We make our mortgage payment on time every month, add extra to the principal, have never been late, have never taken out a HELOC or a second mortgage and yet we are expected to help those out who probably shouldn't have bought a home in the first place.
Barney Frank (D) is the one who several years ago pushed the mortgage lenders to lend to EVERYONE so all could have homes. Read the Boston Globe Op-Ed piece by Jeff Jacoby for a good explanation.
What does anything Barney Frank said have to do with Obama? nm
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Thanks to Barney Frank and his snivling
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Barney Frank is a nut! He would also not listen re
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More on Barney Frank and fannie/freddie...
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Barney Frank is to blame for the economic
BUT, Barney Frank is to blame for the corrupt government interference in mortgages and forcing banks to loan to people who by no means had any business trying to buy a home!!
Barney Frank has been in Congress since 1981. He has been the head of the Financial Services Committee and has been in charge of pushing all these government regulations onto banks.....
LETS CALL IT LIKE IT IS!!! He's a corrupt SOB and he needs to be kicked out of there! And now he dares to come across suddenly acting as if he is doing EVERYTHING he can to get the banking business flowing again! BULL! He's got them just where he wants them, indebted to the government. WHat happens next? Government run banks....... socialism......governments lending YOU, the citizen, monies, owning you, your family, and everything else in your life.......you need to do YOUR HOMEWORK!
Barney Frank in prison, is that that what you'd call
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Barney Frank.....what planet did he fall off
Barney Frank wants less govt and state rights when it comes to drugs.... but he wants "regulation" and "more enforcement" when it comes to everything else that takes away MY rights...... what a joke!
Caught an ad-Barney Frank is going to be on O'Reilley
tonight or Thursday night? I think BF is a glutton for punishment. I hope, but doubt, BF will answer some questions instead of blowing smoke again.
Followed quickly by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. nm
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wrong...barney frank, chris dodd, and the
Dem members of the Banking and Finance Committee are wholly responsible. John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2006 and described this exact scenario, as did Allen Greenspan and John Snow (treasury secretary). The Dems killed it in committee. Voted to a man against it. And here we are. Nice try...no cigar (no pun intended). This is one that you can't lay on the Republicans. The facts do not support you on this one. No matter how much you deny it. And deny it you will. You can't help yourself.
More on Barney Frank...he is SO dirty in this economic mess....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
Fannie and Freddie....Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...
you left them off your list. The two MAJOR players. Who got the most donations from fannie/freddie? Barack Obama and Chris Dodd. Obama got more from them in his 3 years than other senators did in 20. You do the math and follow the money.
Murtha, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Al Franken!, ughh!.
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Talk about ignorance....Chris Dodd, Barney Frank....
Fannie Mae...ring any bells? The housing crash is what started this downhill spiral. Talk about snorting Kool-aid...you must have an IV. O starts talking, brain stops working.
The war has cost us plenty...as did 9-11. But the economy didn't go south until the fannie/freddie debacle which started the dominos on wall street falling because of the "bad paper." So you can rant and rave all you want to about the war...your duly elected Dems in Congress screwed us ALL over. But go ahead, blame Bush...this is all on YOU folks. YOU voted them in. I had nothing to do with it...lol. I believe it is called stewing in your own juices...even if you are so in denial you don't realize it...but oh well...no surprise. :)
To a great extent, it is Frank's fault, previous poster correct.
Barney Frank and the rest of the democrats in charge of Congress now, will be laughing at you, too....at all of us.
Frank/O'Reilly
I was cheering that Bill is BACK! I've been fit to be tied over his lingering lethargy for the last period of months, and have written to complain, too.
There's a lot more on the web about Barney Frank and how filthy he is (in more ways than 1) this whole thing. He should've been put in jail along with Chris Dodd and Palsen, etc. Barney Frank's former lover worked for this outfit before they split many years ago. I've read so much on it that I don't recall which place I read it, but obviously you won't find any of this investigative stuff on the driveby channels. Even FNC doesn't put some stuff out there, which ticks me off. But I find it, anyway between the conservative blogs, sites, talk radio, etc. And these sources can be easily checked, so the libs can throw all the hissy fits they want. If they honestly think it's okay to give literally ANY party a free pass just b/c it has your letter or preference behind it, that's just nuts! I'm dying to clean out the RINOs in "my" party. They don't belong there.
Uh Barney Fife was on Mayberry RFD
Are you speaking of Barney Frank? The Congressman from Massachussetts?
Just because it has been going on by both parties does not make it okay.
Oh, I agree completely.....just mentioning Barney
None of them should be "fixing" anything....they created the mess and I sure as heck don't trust them to fix it. Since when has the government fixed anything?
There should be outside auditors come in, chosen by private citizens, NOT the government, not the politicians' friends or family members, but private CPAs to oversee this.
The government should not be taking any of our money. I say let the chips fall where they may and all this fear Bush and everyone else tries to place in the minds of the people is just that....talk. Give it a year or so and it will right itself automatically and purge itself of the crooks.
If you think for a minute the world economy will fall because of it, that's the fear they're hoping to put in your head to make you think this is the only choice left OR ELSE!!
Other countries have firm good banks and will continue their business as usual, as will solid banks in this country.
My gosh, just today the Bank of Scotland is now putting out ads for your banking needs. It's an investment opportunity for many.
Wonderful. Bernanke, Pelosi, and now Barney Fife want
another stimulus package. "Stimulus should exceed 1% of the GDP."
He also says banks should be encouraged to write down mortgages. As for the $700B package, they got a terrible job loss number the same day and that it should soon start working. This fund would start buying into the banks soon. He was very upset that the first $250B was given away and $125B went into buying large banks and $125B went into buying into small banks.
Keynesianism??? What's that? Sounds like a new language to me. It's one of the words he uses.
I certainly don't think there should be another stimulus package. The first one didn't work. How can the second one be any better?
If you go there, please include Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, McCain....the list goes
You can't be selective. If you insist on putting blame for the current situation our country is in, you must put the blame on each and every person that was a part of it.
It's always somebody else's fault
You are all weenie victims...
Who is at fault? WH
The right wingers are pointing fingers at the mayor and governor of New Orleans, however, studying this time line, looks to me like FEMA and Bush were notified early on, before the hurricane, during and after, when the levees broke and aid was requested promptly:
KATRINA TIMELINE
Friday, August 26
GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: [Office of the Governor]
GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26. [DOD]
Saturday, August 27
5AM — KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE [CNN]
GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: “I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.” [Office of the Governor]
FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]
Sunday, August 28
2AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE [CNN]
7AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE [CNN]
MORNING — LOUISIANA NEWSPAPER SIGNALS LEVEES MAY GIVE: “Forecasters Fear Levees Won’t Hold Katrina”: “Forecasters feared Sunday afternoon that storm driven waters will lap over the New Orleans levees when monster Hurricane Katrina pushes past the Crescent City tomorrow.” [Lafayette Daily Advertiser]
9:30 AM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES FIRST EVER MANDATORY EVACUATION OF NEW ORLEANS: “We’re facing the storm most of us have feared,” said Nagin. “This is going to be an unprecedented event.” [Times-Picayune]
4PM – NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES SPECIAL HURRICANE WARNING: In the event of a category 4 or 5 hit, “Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks, perhaps longer. … At least one-half of well-constructed homes will have roof and wall failure. All gabled roofs will fail, leaving those homes severely damaged or destroyed. … Power outages will last for weeks. … Water shortages will make human suffering incredible by modern standards.” [National Weather Service]
AFTERNOON — BUSH, BROWN, CHERTOFF WARNED OF LEVEE FAILURE BY NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER DIRECTOR: Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center: “‘We were briefing them way before landfall. … It’s not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped.’” [Times-Picayune; St. Petersburg Times]
LATE PM – REPORTS OF WATER TOPPLING OVER LEVEE: “Waves crashed atop the exercise path on the Lake Pontchartrain levee in Kenner early Monday as Katrina churned closer.” [Times-Picayune]
APPROXIMATELY 30,000 EVACUEES GATHER AT SUPERDOME WITH ROUGHLY 36 HOURS WORTH OF FOOD [Times-Picayune]
Monday, August 29
7AM – KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE [CNN]
8AM – MAYOR NAGIN REPORTS THAT WATER IS FLOWING OVER LEVEE: “I’ve gotten reports this morning that there is already water coming over some of the levee systems. In the lower ninth ward, we’ve had one of our pumping stations to stop operating, so we will have significant flooding, it is just a matter of how much.” [NBC’s “Today Show”]
MORNING — BUSH CALLS SECRETARY CHERTOFF TO DISCUSS IMMIGRATION: “I spoke to Mike Chertoff today — he’s the head of the Department of Homeland Security. I knew people would want me to discuss this issue [immigration], so we got us an airplane on — a telephone on Air Force One, so I called him. I said, are you working with the governor? He said, you bet we are.” [White House]
MORNING – BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN [White House]
10AM — BUSH VISITS ARIZONA RESORT TO PROMOTE MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “This new bill I signed says, if you’re a senior and you like the way things are today, you’re in good shape, don’t change. But, by the way, there’s a lot of different options for you. And we’re here to talk about what that means to our seniors.” [White House]
LATE MORNING – LEVEE BREACHED: “A large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new ‘hurricane proof’ Old Hammond Highway bridge, gave way late Monday morning in Bucktown after Katrina’s fiercest winds were well north.” [Times-Picayune]
11:30AM — MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY REQUESTS THAT DHS DISPATCH 1,000 EMPLOYEES TO REGION, GIVES THEM TWO DAYS TO ARRIVE: “Brown’s memo to Chertoff described Katrina as ‘this near catastrophic event’ but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, ‘Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities.’” [AP]
2PM — BUSH TRAVELS TO CALIFORNIA SENIOR CENTER TO DISCUSS MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “We’ve got some folks up here who are concerned about their Social Security or Medicare. Joan Geist is with us. … I could tell — she was looking at me when I first walked in the room to meet her, she was wondering whether or not old George W. is going to take away her Social Security check.” [White House]
9PM — RUMSFELD ATTENDS SAN DIEGO PADRES BASEBALL GAME: Rumsfeld “joined Padres President John Moores in the owner’s box…at Petco Park.” [Editor & Publisher]
Tuesday, August 30
9AM – BUSH SPEAKS ON IRAQ AT NAVAL BASE CORONADO [White House]
MIDDAY – CHERTOFF FINALLY BECOMES AWARE THAT LEVEE HAS FAILED: “It was on Tuesday that the levee–may have been overnight Monday to Tuesday–that the levee started to break. And it was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the gap and that essentially the lake was going to start to drain into the city.” [Meet the Press, 9/4/05]
PENTAGON CLAIMS THERE ARE ENOUGH NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS IN REGION: “Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs.” [WWL-TV]
MASS LOOTING REPORTED, SECURITY SHORTAGE CITED: “The looting is out of control. The French Quarter has been attacked,” Councilwoman Jackie Clarkson said. “We’re using exhausted, scarce police to control looting when they should be used for search and rescue while we still have people on rooftops.” [AP]
U.S.S. BATAAN SITS OFF SHORE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED: “The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore. The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents. But now the Bataan’s hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty.” [Chicago Tribune]
3PM – PRESIDENT BUSH PLAYS GUITAR WITH COUNTRY SINGER MARK WILLIS [AP]
BUSH RETURNS TO CRAWFORD FOR FINAL NIGHT OF VACATION [AP]
Wednesday, August 31
TENS OF THOUSANDS TRAPPED IN SUPERDOME; CONDITIONS DETERIORATE: “A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers. ‘We pee on the floor. We are like animals,’ said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. … By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror. … At least two people, including a child, have been raped. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for. There is no sanitation. The stench is overwhelming.” [Los Angeles Times, 9/1/05]
PRESIDENT BUSH FINALLY ORGANIZES TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE FEDERAL RESPONSE: Bush says on Tuesday he will “fly to Washington to begin work…with a task force that will coordinate the work of 14 federal agencies involved in the relief effort.”[8/31/05]
JEFFERSON PARISH EMERGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY GONE: “Director Walter Maestri: FEMA and national agencies not delivering the help nearly as fast as it is needed.” [WWL-TV]
80,000 BELIEVED STRANDED IN NEW ORLEANS: Former Mayor Sidney Barthelemy “estimated 80,000 were trapped in the flooded city and urged President Bush to send more troops.” [Reuters]
3,000 STRANDED AT CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER: “With 3,000 or more evacuees stranded at the convention center — and with no apparent contingency plan or authority to deal with them — collecting a body was no one’s priority. … Some had been at the convention center since Tuesday morning but had received no food, water or instructions.” [Times-Picayune]
5PM — BUSH GIVES FIRST MAJOR ADDRESS ON KATRINA: “Nothing about the president’s demeanor… — which seemed casual to the point of carelessness — suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis.” [New York Times]
8:00PM – CONDOLEEZZA RICE TAKES IN A BROADWAY SHOW: “On Wednesday night, Secretary Rice was booed by some audience members at ‘Spamalot!, the Monty Python musical at the Shubert, when the lights went up after the performance.” [New York Post, 9/2/05]
9PM — FEMA DIRECTOR BROWN CLAIMS SURPRISE OVER SIZE OF STORM: “I must say, this storm is much much bigger than anyone expected.” [CNN]
Thursday, September 1
8AM — BUSH CLAIMS NO ONE EXPECTED LEVEES TO BREAK: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.” [Washington Post]
CONDOLEEZZA RICE VISITS U.S. OPEN: “Rice, [in New York] on three days’ vacation to shop and see the U.S. Open, hitting some balls with retired champ Monica Seles at the Indoor Tennis Club at Grand Central.” [New York Post]
STILL NO COMMAND AND CONTROL ESTABLISHED: Terry Ebbert, New Orleans Homeland Security Director: “This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control. We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can’t bail out the city of New Orleans.” [Fox News]
2PM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES “DESPERATE SOS” TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: “This is a desperate SOS. Right now we are out of resources at the convention centre and don’t anticipate enough buses. We need buses. Currently the convention centre is unsanitary and unsafe and we’re running out of supplies.” [Guardian, 9/2/05]
2PM — MICHAEL BROWN CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE HEARD OF REPORTS OF VIOLENCE: “I’ve had no reports of unrest, if the connotation of the word unrest means that people are beginning to riot, or you know, they’re banging on walls and screaming and hollering or burning tires or whatever. I’ve had no reports of that.” [CNN]
NEW ORLEANS “DESCEND[S] INTO ANARCHY”: “Storm victims were raped and beaten, fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flooded-out New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday. ‘This is a desperate SOS,’ the mayor said.” [AP]
CONDOLEEZZA RICE GOES SHOE SHOPPING: “Just moments ago at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue, Condoleeza Rice was seen spending several thousands of dollars on some nice, new shoes (we’ve confirmed this, so her new heels will surely get coverage from the WaPo’s Robin Givhan). A fellow shopper, unable to fathom the absurdity of Rice’s timing, went up to the Secretary and reportedly shouted, ‘How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!’” [Gawker]
MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY LEARNS OF EVACUEES IN CONVENTION CENTER: “We learned about that (Thursday), so I have directed that we have all available resources to get that convention center to make sure that they have the food and water and medical care that they need.” [CNN]
Friday, September 2
ROVE-LED CAMPAIGN TO BLAME LOCAL OFFICIALS BEGINS: “Under the command of President Bush’s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan…to contain the political damage from the administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.” President Bush’s comments from the Rose Garden Friday morning formed “the start of this campaign.” [New York Times, 9/5/05]
9:35AM — BUSH PRAISES MICHAEL BROWN: “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” [White House, 9/2/05]
10 AM — PRESIDENT BUSH STAGES PHOTO-OP “BRIEFING”: Coast Guard helicopters and crew diverted to act as backdrop for President Bush’s photo-op.
BUSH VISIT GROUNDS FOOD AID: “Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.” [Times-Picayune]
LEVEE REPAIR WORK ORCHESTRATED FOR PRESIDENT’S VISIT: Sen. Mary Landrieu, 9/3: “Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment.” [Sen. Mary Landrieu]
BUSH USES 50 FIREFIGHTERS AS PROPS IN DISASTER AREA PHOTO-OP: A group of 1,000 firefighters convened in Atlanta to volunteer with the Katrina relief efforts. Of those, “a team of 50 Monday morning quickly was ushered onto a flight headed for Louisiana. The crew’s first assignment: to stand beside President Bush as he tours devastated areas.” [Salt Lake Tribune; Reuters]
3PM — BUSH “SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE”: “I am satisfied with the response. I am not satisfied with all the results.” [AP]
Saturday, September 3
SENIOR BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL LIES TO WASHINGTON POST, CLAIMS GOV. BLANCO NEVER DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY: The Post reported in their Sunday edition “As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.” They were forced to issue a correction hours later. [Washington Post, 9/4/05]
9AM — BUSH BLAMES STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS: “[T]he magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need.” [White House, 9/3/05]
But the fault does not
lie with the left, much as you would have it be. We should never have been in Viet Nam and we should never have been in Iraq. We will leave someday and the chaos will just continue and worsen. You can blame the left all you want for Viet Nam and its aftermath but in this war, the American people are disgusted with it and sick of it and angry at being manipulated and flat-out lied to. It is not us out in the streets protesting. So when the Iraqi citizens become worse off than they are now which is pretty awful, you cannot blame the left. We have no power. We do not demonstrate and those few that try are banished to some **pen** a mile away from where anyone can see or hear them. What will change hopefully with this election is that the next administration is not as oil-hungry as this one is. It is the prospect of losing our presence and influence in those oil-rich countries that keeps the war going...and surprisingly the Emerald City seems to mimic Saddam's palace. It is huge, everything works. They have electricity, they have water, they have food, they have air conditioning while the soldiers have not enough of anything and the Iraqi people even less. No wonder so many of them want the **occupiers** out of there. None of this is the fault of the left. This time things have gone sour due to incompetence, nothing else, certainly not the left. We have no influence or power and even if we did, we would be ignored. This is a real case of taxation without representation for us. Wish I could think of something appropriate to pour into Tampa Bay.
Okay...so it is our fault
that Obama dressed like a terrorist?
And this is their fault because....nm?
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You got it - and of course it will never be the O's fault
I know, it will be Bush's fault. Whatever hasn't happened yet, lets blame it on Bush. The crats are going to.
Then it's their own fault
No one is holding them back, but nobody is going to do it for them. They have to apply themselves like everyone else in America.
This country was built on the belief that no matter who you or where you come from, if you work hard you can make it.
Sometimes you have to try and try again, but nobody is holding them back but their own self limitation.
Playing the victim never got anybody anywhere. It's time to give up that old tired excuse and work hard just like everyone else has done all along.
Sorry if reality hurts, but it's the truth.
It's not BB's fault, he only knows what MSN wants him to know!! sm
He is just displaying exactly what they do on MSN; make fun of others and keep em' laughing. Fortunately there are fewer and fewer people that still believe any of MSN's stories. For the ones who are left they will be smacked in the face with the truth later and then get ticked off at MSN for not telling them the real stories or truth.
9/11 Bush's fault
9/11 scenario being rewritten? LOL, in your dreams. We had many warnings about an attack but guess where Bush was?? On vacation. Well, actually he is on vacation 24/7, if you ask me. A FIVE WEEK VACATION, OMG!! This administration failed us with the attack on 9/11. A captain goes down with his ship. Bush is the captain of this administration, hence, he takes the blame..Not Clinton, not the democrats, BUSH. OMG, we were being attacked and where was Bush, reading a childrens book in Florida and then flying around, too afraid to land when we the people are vulnerable for attack. But, my concern right now is not 9/11. That has already happened. My concern is the terrorist country Bush has created with his illegal immoral criminal invasion of Iraq. Now we have to worry for decades to come due to his and Cheneys actions of invading Iraq. What really makes me shake my head in disbelief, is that so unbelieveably insane Cheney is still trying to justify this war and link it up to 9/11. This country is in a sorry state. Im ashamed, concerned, frightened and disillusioned by America right now..and dont use the republican argument, liberals always blame America first..I blame whomever or whatever is the cause of the problem and right now America has caused this major global terrorist problem, our major deficit with billions going to Iraq monthly, our thousands dead, tens of thousands of Iraqis dead, disrespect throughout the world and a nonending war for the future, not to mention at home outsourcing of jobs, which Bush says is a good thing, gas prices going through the roof, millions going without health insurance..but hey, Bush is a good president, hun?....NOT. This situation Bush has put us into will haunt us for decades to come..
Yes, the fault lies with me.
I was able to get the link to work. You were not. So something is wrong with me.
So typical.
Uh....when have you admitted a fault...
or fallacy, piglet?
Threatened...? Nope. Mildly amused. You two obviously feel the need to have each other to pile on; that certainly sounds more like feeling threatened than anything I have done.
I think you mean what do I feel about comradery that is distasteful not tasteful..?? I did not say it was distasteful at all! I said it was amusing. And it is. You enjoy ridiculing and find it humorous. You have that in common, and I find that amusing. I am allowed.
Distasteful joke? Oh COME on. Geez. Some of the things guys have posted and guffawed here about actual people by name and you call me distasteful?? Apparently Whorn at least has a sense of humor. Belittled an entire human race? An entire human race? I thought there was only one...human race that it is.
You are really reaching on that one. If one cannot poke fun at Osama Bin Laden without you getting all up in arms about "an entire human race..."
You are always good for a laugh, piglet. To use your own words...guffaw.
its obama's fault
wait and see.
Nah, it's Edwards fault cuz
they was havin' illicit sex, too! Can you imagine big oil and the dept of interior in bed together!!!!!!! Boggles the mind!!!!!
I understand. However, is that the fault...
of people who worked hard to get where THEY are? That their income should be cut in order to supplement mine? I'm sorry; I don't think so. I think redistribution is wrong. And it affects all of us, because as the top starts to come down we get forced out of the middle class and into the lower class. They will be the new middle class, and the "wealth" will be GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED at the top. That extra taxation goes to the government, not directly to you. That is what happened in Venezuela...Chavez. Castro...Cuba. That is what happens with socialism. Because once the government controls everything, they dole it out as they see fit, "taking care" of us (socialism), apparently because they think they know what is better for us than WE do. I for one do not want to relinquish that kind of control to the government.
I get it. You don't care whose fault it is....
unless of course those had been Republicans on the video. Then you would be singing a much different tune. I see where you are coming from. Got it.
don't you know, everything is his fault...I stubbed my toe...
obama's fault...
The guy who said it was their own fault was spot on...SM
We see on here naive individuals who say "it can't happen here, we have the second amendment". These people are our enemy within.
Many nations are now disarmed and the United Nations goal is the ban of all small arms. Do you know anyone who likes the United Nations? That's right the messiah.
Some interesting Hitler quotes. A few years ago many could be found. today it's tougher to find them, and the one about gun control that was common 20 years ago some sites say is false. Most of his gun control quotes are missing. Interesting.
This one is reported true from one site:
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This year will go down in history! For the first time a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the future!” Adolph Hitler, 1935. |
Yet reported as false from another. I think the first I seen this quote was in the early 1980's. Two years ago it was common on the internet. When I first seen it years ago the date and place were also included. Was it false, or what gives.
I checked further and found this in a historical reference.
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The Nazis did pass a weapons law in 1938, but that only added restrictions to the previous law, especially for Jews and other "non-citizens." |
They say a very restrictive law was already in place and did not require Hitler to do anything but strengthen it.
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This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.
If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election.
Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election.
What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.
When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
Adolf Hitler
Speech November 1933, quoted in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer
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So are you now saying that it is Obama's fault
didn't sue him earlier? If he was so concerned about the Constitution, why did he not challenge Obama BEFORE he was nominated? Let me help you with this one. That would be because never in his wildest imagination could he believe that HC, his favored candidate, would not be nominated. This paricular lawsuit is politically motived by a disaffected HC supporter who is now in over his head and is trying to vindicate what is left of his tarnished reputation. If he had a real case, he would not be basing his action on "standing" and "harm" claims, but rather would not hesitate to PROVE once and for all that the BC is not valid. The burden of proof is on him. He can't do it. The judge dismissed him. The US Secretary of State upheld Obama's eligibility. The only place this can end up now in terms of political gain would be the Congress...after the election.
That is their fault. They have been in trouble for
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Oh, I see. It's all the Democrats fault.
It's McCain's fault....(sm)
He said during his campaign that he knew how to get Osama bin Laden. Has he known how to do this all along? I guess since he didn't get elected he's not willing to share that info.....ROFL..
So then how is that Bush's fault?????
Doesn't make sense.
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It's Bush's fault...
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So It's the Democrats' Fault?
Being on welfare has nothing to do with the party system in this country.
This is not a problem that was created by any one party, nor can it be solved by any one party.
Until the Republicans quit trying to see everyting as Us versus Them, nothing is ever going to be accomplished in this country. I'm getting tired of the Republicans in this country being so divisive.
How about using that energy for the GOOD of EVERYONE. Stop seeing things through party-line glasses.
Oh, no. Everything is Bush's fault. I have never
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WHO CARES WHOSE FAULT IT IS??
This is past history. We need to move forward and come up with some real, workable solutions.
It matters not who created this mess, it is ALL of ours to fix!
What is gained by pointing fingers, name calling and childish, school yard games that go on on this board?
Thank God there are a few (VERY few) intelligent posters here that keep me coming back.
Let's bury the blame and get moving forward, shall we?
That's MSNBC's fault for staffing ...
a news event with commentators. Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman are not journalists. They are political commentators, and their opinions are what bring in the ratings on their programs.
But, generally speaking, journalism is just not what it used to be. Impartial reporting and confirmed information have been left at the wayside. These days it's all about getting out the big story fast, whether or not it's actually true.
Walter Cronkite would have choked himself on the air before ever starting a story with "Unconfirmed reports say . . . " How often do we hear that as the lead-in to a news story? Translation: "Rumor has it . . . "
So that's my rant for today. Matthews and Olberman shouldn't be reporting on anything.
They will probably still say "its Bush's fault".
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