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Joe the plumber was a plant! Talk radio knew about him BEFORE he asked Obama a question

Posted By: He isn't even registered to vote and on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Poor Joe the Plumber is going to have - sm

He is related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal that McCain was involved in.


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yep. talk radio covered this. sm

Rush said that's why they went after him.  Seriously, for those who have never explored talk radio, it's like getting your doctorate in history.  It's so different than what many think.  Of course, I like all of it, but this is a fabulous encyclopedia for sources other than the "drivebys."  Of course, that's why the far-left Dems want that so-called Fairness Doctrine.  The centrists (what few are left flailing with little or now face time, for obvious reasons) know full well that if it happens to the conservatives, it'll come right back around and hit them in the butts, too. 


The Dems are very divided but put on a show for the cameras.  If a centrist or a new Rep. doesn't follow The Pelosi Principle, he/she will never get $ for another run, and certainly won't get to introduce anything of interest to that Rep.  The domino effect on that trickles down to the Rep's state, which in turn essentially gets nothing. 


It's quite refreshing to be able to have a friendly exchange here.  What on earth happened?  Let's hope it lasts!


don't forget talk radio!

Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."  If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too.  Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc.  Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow.  My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox).  Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee.  If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows.  Levin has the same.  Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).


Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!


I hope to see future posts from you re this.  You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons.  MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.


Enjoy!


don't forget talk radio!

Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."  If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too.  Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc.  Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow.  My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox).  Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee.  If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows.  Levin has the same.  Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).


Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!


I hope to see future posts from you re this.  You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons.  MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.


Enjoy!


don't forget talk radio!

Of course, the libs want to squelch freedom of speech with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."  If they had any brains, they'd nix that one, as it will most definitely bite them in the butt, too.  Michael Savage, for one, says if they pull it off, he'll go after them (all of them will, actually) to get equal time on ultra-lib shows, such as 60 Minutes, NPR, etc.  Funny how we taxpayers fund NPR, yet Rush Limbaugh has more than 20 million listeners, and continues to grow.  My favs are LauraIngraham.com, Rush (of course--I'd marry him if I could and weren't already married), MarkLevinShow.com, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck (now on Fox).  Glenn's best friend, Pat Gray, does a talk show in Houston with Edd Hendee.  If you go to patgray.com, you can hear Pat & Edd's shows.  Levin has the same.  Laura is a total nut, yet not one to cross (recovering lawyer, as she says).


Due to the huge success of talk radio, the Dems can't stand it, which is why they want to shut down free speech, which is in our Constitution!


I hope to see future posts from you re this.  You won't hear the stuff from the driveby media, for obvious reasons.  MarkLevinShow.com has a Keith Overbite page, which is a doozy.


Enjoy!


Even our conservative talk radio sm

station focused on how "hot" Sarah Palin was, not her brains.  How they'd like to see her naked, in a bikini, etc, etc.  As for being governor, the state of Alaska ranks 47th in population, not exactly New York or Massachusetts or you name it.  As for bashing her because she is "pretty", I'll take brains over beauty any day.  Pretty shallow to back someone because they're "pretty" or "hot."  The day Sarah Palin sets foot in the white house, is the day I move to Canada or maybe I'll move to Alaska!


And lastly, as for me typing my little black keys, look who is calling the kettle black.  When was the last time you ran for governor? 


Interesting Insight into Talk Radio
I confess I am fascinated by the inner workings of the things that influence public opinion, be it media, politics, or religion. I found this article fascinating.


Some crazy loon on talk radio today
said that Bush's grandfather had Kennedy assasinated.  Do you believe that?
Death of Right-Wing Talk Radio Influence sm
The Death Of Right-Wing Talk Radio Relevance
By Steve Young

Twelve years of unmerited influence and half-truths swathed in red, white and blue patriotism met its demise this past Tuesday with a dagger to the heart served up by revelations from the Iraq Study Group substantiating that everything right wing talk radio had said was right about the Iraqi, was wrong.

Born the day Rush Limbaugh mid-wifed Newt Gingrich's Contract For (On) America, RWTRR lived a healthy and wealthy life duping a great portion of the America public into voting against their own best interests.

Right wing talk grew larger and louder over its lifetime, adding names like Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz, Dennis Prager and many more imitators. They each spent three hours a day catchphrasing words and thoughts - no matter how rickety their evidence (if any) - that the mainstream media would give equal time and space along side the truth.

All of a sudden, the truth was only worth 50% of any issue.

Enabled by a gullible mainstream media hoping to hitch itself to the growing Lords of Loud audience, the Rove-inspired red-herrings were greased up even more by talk radio's band of Professor Harold Hills and shoved charmingly down America's throat. And, as with all great con men, these snake oil salesmen sold hole-cloth, betraying the public trust and making fistfuls of dollars doing it.

To be fair, they had to. It's was a Catch-22. If they had trusted their audience with the truth, they'd have no audience.

But November's election and the ISG report finally drained life-giving oxygen from a lying heart. Not only did the public begin to understand they were being duped, but even the FOBIJB (Friends of Bush including James Baker) could no longer ignore the tide. Of course there will continue to be FOBIL (Friends of Bush Including Lieberman), but they will sustain escalating losses, just as the LOL are losing audience in droves.

But the one-two punch of November's mid-terms compounded by the Iraq Study Group's revelations, knocked a terminal hole in any credibility right wing talk may have had left.

Limbaugh admitted he was shilling for Republicans who didn't deserve to be elected, then attempted to hush the death knell rung by the ISG by recasting it, oh so hysterically, as the Iraq Surrender Group. Get it? He changed one of the words. Second-rate comics who are dying on stage always go for the insipidly obvious and as with the comics, it never gets the audience back.

Hannity has gone off the deep end calling everyone else but himself wrong. He persists on telling liberal callers that we found WMD even though Bush doesn't seem to have gotten the same intelligence Sean has while Curt Weldon and Rick Santorum were voted out of office whipping the same dead horse.

Beck asks an American Congressman to prove he's not working for the enemy.

Prager believes the same Congressman holding his bible will bring down American civilization.

O'Reilly can't drum up many recruits to fight this year's War Against Christmas, and how many times can you hear look at me with out re-tasting last night's dinner?

And Savage...? Well, just Savage.

Oh, they'll keep some listeners, but they'll be talking to a choir who doesn't care that they're hearing to a bunch of cloutless charlatans who never had the guts to serve our country but have no problem sending other families into life-changing horror; fans who don't care their heros had it wrong, and had it wrong over and over. And when it came to the war...dead wrong.

Now any relevance these cascading Lords of Loud might once have had, if not dead, is on life support. And if there are some in the legitimate media who still choose to give these mongrels of misrepresentation any time, space or air, they do it at the risk of their own relevance.

Right-wing talk show relevance was never married but leaves behind soon-to-be-irrelevant offspring: Dick Morris, Bernie Goldberg, Tom DeLay, Ann Coulter, David Horowitz, David Limbaugh, Bill Kristol, Michelle Malkin, General Tommy Franks, Oliver North, James Dobson, Whitewater, Swift Boaters, Flip-flopping, Terri Schiavo, The buses, Outing covert agents as appropriate government behavior, WMD, Saddam's close relationship with bin Laden, If you're against the war your against the troops, If you're against the President's policies you're against America, Activist judges are making laws, Making progress, Tax relief benefitting the middle class, No child left behind is a success, Republican legislators appreciating veterans, Pharmaceutical companies writing drug bills will benefit the public, Stem cell research causes baby cloning, and Wars against Christmas

Memorial services will be continued, sadly, three hours a day. All donations should be made to Fox News.
Nobody wants to listen to liberal talk radio..look at bankrupt Air America. No demand for it...

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Obama said...from his own mouth...to Joe the Plumber....
when Joe said, "Why do you want to tax me more?" to which Obama replied: "It's not that I want to tax you more. I think the guys below Joe deserve a shot too." I agree with that..just not the way Obama wants. They deserve the SAME shot JOE had. Work several years to GET to the point where you can buy a business...like JOE has. Don't TAX the JOES of the world MORE so you can cut people who have not worked that hard a check for which they did NOTHING. That is not fair, gourdpainter. No way is that FAIR.

Why not have a straight across the board percentage tax, no deductions, no NOTHING. Yes, the rich would pay more than the poor because they make more, but it would be FAIR. It would not be taxing any class of people at a HIGHER rate and divying it out to the ones below them who did NOTHING to earn it.

Obama is a socialist. He says so in his plans, he said so to Joe the Plumber. Why aren't you listening?
:-)
Obama made it very clear to Joe the Plumber....
Were you listening? He explained it very clearly. He was going to tax Joe at a higher rate and give that money to people "below Joe" so "they would have a chance too." That is NOT American, that is socialism. Out of Obama's own mouth. The man is a socialist, and because you refuse to see it or see it and don't care, it does not make it less true.

To use your words...run and hide if you like.
Obama to Plumber: My Plan Will 'Spread the Wealth Around'....sm
FYI: Last night, couldn't find this story on the Internet, as the "powers that be" in the liberal media, attempted to scrub this story clean off the Internet, much the way they changed that SNL skit that was truthful on the whole liberal democratic responsbility on the FM/FM mess. They took out the facts of the blame to the dems, and reposted it on the Internet. They are trying to rewrite history, and that should make us very, very upset.

Anyway, found this story again this morning on Fox, and very hard to find the "whole story" elsewhere on the web, as some of it has "been scrubbed clean"


Obama to Plumber: My Plan Will 'Spread the Wealth Around'
Barack Obama tells a plumber in Ohio he wants to "spread the wealth around," eliciting criticism that his economic recovery plan is socialist in nature.

FOXNews.com

Monday, October 13, 2008


Barack Obama told a tax-burdened plumber over the weekend that his economic philosophy is to "spread the wealth around" -- a comment that may only draw fire from riled-up John McCain supporters who have taken to calling Obama a "socialist" at the Republican's rallies.

Obama made the remark, caught on camera, after fielding some tough questions from the plumber Sunday in Ohio, where the Democratic candidate canvassed neighborhoods and encouraged residents to vote early.

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Obama's remarks drew fresh criticism on the blogosphere that the Illinois senator favors a breed of wealth redistribution -- as well as a rebuke from the McCain campaign.

"If Barack Obama's goal as President is to 'spread the wealth around,' perhaps his unconditional meetings with Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro, and Kim Jong-Il aren't so crazy -- if nothing else they can advise an Obama administration on economic policy," McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a written statement to FOXNews.com. "In contrast, John McCain's goal as president will be to let the American people prosper unburdened by government and ever higher taxes."

Obama frequently rails against what he calls a Republican concept that tax breaks for the wealthy will somehow "trickle down" to middle-class Americans.

Obama says he will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.

However, McCain's aides and supporters argue that Obama wrongly wants to raise taxes on businesses in a time of economic distress.

Both candidates spent Monday discussing how they would resurrect the ailing economy. McCain again pointed to his plan to buy up cumbersome mortgages from homeowners and renegotiate them. Obama unveiled what he called an economic rescue plan for the middle class, which included a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures.



http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/obama-plumber-plan-spread-wealth/
Everyone here knew you were voting Obama
Your phony posts have been full of crap from day one.

Every single post you've made here has bashed Republicans and praised that spider monkey obama.

Perhaps MTs who can't find a job STINK AT THEIR JOBS!!!! If you don't have work, do't blame the Republicans. Get some education and fix the problem yourself.

Stop beggining big government to fix your own shortcomings!!!!!
No -- Obama was asked about the

war on terror (which is where the word terrorists comes from), and Obama responded with the "moderate Muslims" reply. 


I know it's hard to be told you're wrong, so I won't bother wasting my breath.  You think what you want.  Here's a new one for this board, brace yourself -- not everyone shares your opinion.


Justice Roberts messed it up, Obama knew that. sm
He could not repeat it as Roberts stated it because it was wrong. He correctly paused in order to give Justice Roberts the opportunity to state it correctly so that he (Obama) could repeat the oath correctly.
If Obama would've come out and asked
to postpone the debate, you would be up in arms..."Barack doesn't want to debate!" or worse.  Give me a break.  They can debate AND vote for the bill.  Remember airplanes!?  Talk about grandstanding.  JM politicizes EVERYTHING!!  Gets old.... no inuendo intended.
I asked you about Obama...not about how someone across the pond
How dense do you take me for? Same poop, second verse. Tax "credit" also cannot be given to people who do not pay taxes. This guy is asking the same stupid questions that you are...questions you have already answered yourself. Tax cuts and tax credits are on TAX....the 95% who will receive tax cuts must be paying taxes already. Duh. Please do not launch another round of this pointless literal read of yours when you are trying to look like you know what you are talking about.

I am asking you to show me where Obama said he would give income tax rebates to people who do not pay taxes. She me OBAMA's words. Also, I am asking you to tell me how it is that the progressive tax system is socialist/Marxist only when Obama is reforming it.

I have to leave for about an hour and will check back a little later. That should give you plenty of time to reload your gun.
Biden and Obama are NEVER asked the kinds of ....
questions McCain and Palin have been asked....who else has Charlie Gibson asked about the Bush Doctrine? Come on, if you are honest, you KNOW that the mainstream media softball Obama and Biden...and defended the hard questions given to those candidates (and Obama camp also defended the hard questions as legitimate concerns) saying they just needed to get tough, that was politics. When the same thing happened to them, they boycotted the station, refused anymore interviews with the station, and yelled bias. I find that hypocrisy of major proportions. JMO, of course.
Bush said Obama asked to see the room where his girls would sleep -
Bush said it was obvious that Obama was going to be a family man even in office.
Maybe Obama should talk to this guy

He's for no taxes..  Obama would NEVER agree to that.


http://parks4staterep.com/2008/10/24/a-tale-of-two-debates/#more-64


But Obama lovers don't want to talk about the
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Do you want to talk about Obama's statement
today that there are jobs that have gone off shore, never to return, should never return because after all, they don't pay anyone a livable wage here?  Suppose he was talking about MT?  Since when has anyone been able to live on minimum wage?  Just what does "minimum" mean? 
yes, I asked you...but I asked you a specific question...
about the peace movement. I asked why you did not take your ideals to the real enemies of peace...and your answer was that you leave them to God but will instead preach to us not to fight them, even when they bring the fight to us. So be it.

We will agree to disagree.

I did not personally call you a whiner. As to who sent the military...I will say one thing. When you join the military, you take an oath. That oath has been posted here. You are under no illusions. You know that you may be called to war. It is an all voluntary army over there now. There is no draft. No one is over there because they were forced to go.

As to the people sending having never been...what has that got to do with anything?It was not just George Bush and Dick Cheney, Lurker. It was Congress. Many in Congress do have relatives, even sons and daughters, in Iraq. Have you read the resolution? It is very clear. They knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what it meant. I do not buy the lied to hooey. The Senate and House intelligence committees got the same briefings, or at least enough briefings to vote for the resolution. If they did not (in their own words) use due diligence before signing off on that resolution, whose fault is that? Certainly not Dick Cheney's or George Bush's.

Where were all these people when Clinton was calling for regime change? Because he was a Democrat they will follow him to war? You will see why I do not buy into their rhetoric.

And while I understand your big picture, as I have said over and over and you have never addressed, that will work only if the others in the big picture wish it to work. And if you honestly feel that God wishes that you lay down and let this country be overrun by terrorists, then so be it. I am not of the same mind.

The big difference is that I believe, as did Americans at the time of the Revolution, and that Americans did at the time of the Civil War...and that even some Americans did at the time of Viet Nam...some things are worth dying for. Most of our volunteer military feels the same.

When that is no longer the case, if you are successful in robbing that sense of patriotism from the generations to come without changing the minds of the enemies, where they feel that nothing is worth dying for...in my mind that will only bring death quicker, not keep it at bay, and the loss of the greatest nation on the face of this earth.

So, we agree to disagree.

God bless.
Obama has no room to talk about earmarks....and neither he nor Biden...
have much room to talk about flip flopping. Ahem.
plant
I don't know about that, but I do know what Obama said to him.
Whether Joe was really a plant or not

really doesn't matter.  The bottom line is the dems were ready to attack a nobody because of unpaid taxes and yet pubs are ridiculed for attacking appointees because of unpaid taxes.  Still a double standard from where I'm sitting and someone appointed to office is a heck of a lot more concerning to me than some guy off of the street who is a plumber.  LOL! 


I would assume that Obama didn't know these people had unpaid taxes, but he shouldn't have stood by them.  Geithner running the IRS troubles me greatly.  Whether he is a crook or honestly did make a mistake, he is now heading up the IRS?  Still don't get that. 


I understand that some are going to nit pick any person that Obama chooses, but to me unpaid taxes is a pretty big thing and for dems to freak out about people being overly critical of who Obama wants to appoint and trying to blow off unpaid taxes......well they didn't have the same view point when it came to a nobody off of the street who asked a simple question and for once got an honest answer out of our President.


Double standards.  I'm so sick and tired of politics.  Just like the dems crying out fearmongering by the pubs over last years bailout and now look what Obama is doing.....using the fear factor.  Both sides are just full of crap.  They always yell at the other side for doing something that they themselves have done or will do in the political arena.  It is a joke really and yet here we all are doing the same thing. 


who care if he is a plant?
He is related to Keating! that's even funnier
More like a plant from the O campaign
What a better way to get a "racial thing" going. All the racial stuff is coming from the O side. McCain and Palin don't go there, but O sure knows how to use the race card.
Joe the plumjber was a plant.....
And Obama's team looked for the most qualified without ensuring they were squeaky clean - their bad. I am sure if you put Bush's appointees under the microscopic, you would find just as much corruption if not more. Politicians are corrupt and Obama put his trust in the hands of those who forgot how much of a microscope will be on every single candidate. He will learn the hard way what a dung pile Washington is.
Probably a plant from the O side...would she sue if she heard....
anyone threatening the other side at an O rally? Probably not.
kind of interesting about Ford plant
http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

Note the comment about UAW at the end.
GM suspended work at Flint Plant and
will likely file bankruptcy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/16/AR2008121602675.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN1748966920081217
We have a meat packing plant in my town
it has been here for 60+ years and never had problems getting those "lazy" Americans to work. My uncle was employed there for years and it was backbreaking work. He wasn't lazy. He was trying to feed his family. Over the past few years, the owner has tried to sneek in illegals so he could pay less as well as a construction business making roof framework for homes. They never have had trouble finding hard working folks; they just want to get the job done for LESS and LESS. So, please don't try pulling that "lazy" American routine.
From innocent pub plant in a rally to podium sidekick
put himself out there. For some, Joe is the everyman's man...for other's, the everyman's sham, and the spectator's seem to be fairly equally splint on that impression of him. No sympathy for the plant. Beating your gms and getting all exercised over this is a waste of time and isn't going to clean up the mess McC made with Joe the unlicensed. BTW, when getting all outraged over Joe's invasion of privacy, let's don't forget McCain's hand in that one, OK?
Honey, a plant in the RALLY to yell those alleged things...nm
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Bring us out of the 20th century and plant our feet firmly
Keep it simple.
Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in PA

And is moving their plant to MEXICO.  It's situations like this where NAFTA should be renegotiated and remove any profit incentive for companies to take away American jobs like this.


Although I really like York Peppermint Patties, I don't think I'll continue to buy this product.


Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in Pa.


By Associated Press



READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.




READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.


http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/39968037.html


 


You C*nt Say That On Radio!
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
Believe it or not, I don't own a radio (nm)
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You can also check out NPR on the radio....
conservative they ARE NOT.
Okay, heard from radio
about american solutions.com so one can vote on this energy bill, but I keep getting link broken. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
Ron Paul radio interview
For those of you in the listening area, Ron Paul is being interviewed on NPR. I am in New England and it is on now. But if you miss it, you can log onto NPR on the web and play it back at your leisure. :o)
today on radio, they were discussing
his own party is in controversy over flip-flops. disgusted almost with the whole lot of them. someone said government growth has been 60% in the last few years. Don't know about that, but upsetting story on medicare losing millions by having doctor's available info on line which, of course, has been abused. Some of these guys have been dead for years and so people have been using their id's and #'s to scam/order wheelchairs. oh well, we'll always have more taxpayers, right? The name of the game is money, and they are all to blame for this energy problem, alternative methods have been squelched for almost 80 years. We could very quickly find ourselves in a fine pickle if they shut off the tap over there and I don't put it past them. After all, we have already made them filthy rich, they won't need us anymore, especially with our losing economy. Indonesia and Viet Nam won't even accept american money. or so I heard a couple of weeks ago, not like I tried to spend any money anywhere! I strongly feel the need to become self-sufficient and I mean that on an individual level as well, think 1800's. our people are much too busy fingerpointing to get anything accomplished and I am sick of all the bickering and wastefulness. I really feel for the ones to come after us.
I am hearing on the radio that it was her husband, not she...
who was the member and it was several years ago. The jury is out on that one.

Obama went to the dailykos convention and spoke to them. Does that mean he approves of the smarm on that website?

Wright said God dam* America. Obama was in his pews for 20 years. Are we to attribute that comment to Obama?

You can't have it both ways.
do you ever listen to Glen on the radio as well?

Ed's a good guy (though he's awkward on TV and better on the radio).
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I agree. I only heard recaps on the radio the next day.
However, I agree with you Lurker. At first I didn't though. I was like *all that wasn't necessary* and when my husband brought up the funeral I told him and his reply was the Kings were political and those were things Coretta believed in, so why should people sugar coat things because of the guests. It was after all HER funeral, not either of the BUSHES.
I heard on the radio the same kind of thing...

asked people about Obama and put Palin as his VP and vice versa with McCain and Biden. People actually said that they thought the Obama/Palin ticket was great and didn't like the McCain/Biden ticket! Unreal, and these people are allowed to vote? Another reporter asked about the policies of each candidate, but switched them around and out of 10 people, 9 thought Obama would get their vote because he believed like they did (of course they didn't know they were actually siding with McCain). It's a sorry time in America when the homeless on the park bench have a vote that is more coveted than our military's vote. Freedom is right and those who are fighting right now are defending those on this board's right to bash them and their service.


I did hear about the flyers on the radio though.. that is true (sm)
Our local radio & TV stations were trying to make sure everyone knew that was a scan. You can't blame republicants for that though...was probably just a couple of people with a hair-brained idea.
nope. Never listened to Rush. No radio.

Hubby listens to him all the time.


BTW, used to watch Glen Beck all the time. Can't wait until he's on Fox January 19th. He was on O'Reilly last night and I did watch, but he was pretty toned down, probably cause it was Bill's show.


He's from about 35 miles from here; been listening to him on radio for years.
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