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GM suspended work at Flint Plant and

Posted By: sm on 2008-12-17
In Reply to: GM has NOT filed for bankruptcy.nm - nm

will likely file bankruptcy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/16/AR2008121602675.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN1748966920081217


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Well....if he comes down from the heavens suspended on wires...
I'm turning it off....LOL!! (being facetious and playing off your celestial choir)
Then I take it if Obama had suspended his campaign first...
your post would have been: Not me for a minute! Foolish middle-aged man!

lol sigh
5th grader suspended over Obama shirt

Well, DUH!!!!! The boy may not have known better, but I bet his dad did.


AURORA, Colo. -- A Colorado fifth-grader said he has been suspended from school for wearing a homemade T-shirt that said "Obama is a terrorist's best friend."


Daxx Dalton and his father, Dann Dalton, said his First Amendment rights were violated.


School officials in Aurora -- a Denver suburb -- said they respect students' free speech rights but also watch for things that might interrupt the learning environment. They said they can't discuss the specifics of the case.


The boy said he was given a choice of changing his shirt, turning it inside-out or being suspended, and he chose suspension.


His father told a Denver television station he's considering a lawsuit.


plant
I don't know about that, but I do know what Obama said to him.
Whether Joe was really a plant or not

really doesn't matter.  The bottom line is the dems were ready to attack a nobody because of unpaid taxes and yet pubs are ridiculed for attacking appointees because of unpaid taxes.  Still a double standard from where I'm sitting and someone appointed to office is a heck of a lot more concerning to me than some guy off of the street who is a plumber.  LOL! 


I would assume that Obama didn't know these people had unpaid taxes, but he shouldn't have stood by them.  Geithner running the IRS troubles me greatly.  Whether he is a crook or honestly did make a mistake, he is now heading up the IRS?  Still don't get that. 


I understand that some are going to nit pick any person that Obama chooses, but to me unpaid taxes is a pretty big thing and for dems to freak out about people being overly critical of who Obama wants to appoint and trying to blow off unpaid taxes......well they didn't have the same view point when it came to a nobody off of the street who asked a simple question and for once got an honest answer out of our President.


Double standards.  I'm so sick and tired of politics.  Just like the dems crying out fearmongering by the pubs over last years bailout and now look what Obama is doing.....using the fear factor.  Both sides are just full of crap.  They always yell at the other side for doing something that they themselves have done or will do in the political arena.  It is a joke really and yet here we all are doing the same thing. 


who care if he is a plant?
He is related to Keating! that's even funnier
More like a plant from the O campaign
What a better way to get a "racial thing" going. All the racial stuff is coming from the O side. McCain and Palin don't go there, but O sure knows how to use the race card.
Joe the plumjber was a plant.....
And Obama's team looked for the most qualified without ensuring they were squeaky clean - their bad. I am sure if you put Bush's appointees under the microscopic, you would find just as much corruption if not more. Politicians are corrupt and Obama put his trust in the hands of those who forgot how much of a microscope will be on every single candidate. He will learn the hard way what a dung pile Washington is.
Probably a plant from the O side...would she sue if she heard....
anyone threatening the other side at an O rally? Probably not.
kind of interesting about Ford plant
http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

Note the comment about UAW at the end.
We have a meat packing plant in my town
it has been here for 60+ years and never had problems getting those "lazy" Americans to work. My uncle was employed there for years and it was backbreaking work. He wasn't lazy. He was trying to feed his family. Over the past few years, the owner has tried to sneek in illegals so he could pay less as well as a construction business making roof framework for homes. They never have had trouble finding hard working folks; they just want to get the job done for LESS and LESS. So, please don't try pulling that "lazy" American routine.
From innocent pub plant in a rally to podium sidekick
put himself out there. For some, Joe is the everyman's man...for other's, the everyman's sham, and the spectator's seem to be fairly equally splint on that impression of him. No sympathy for the plant. Beating your gms and getting all exercised over this is a waste of time and isn't going to clean up the mess McC made with Joe the unlicensed. BTW, when getting all outraged over Joe's invasion of privacy, let's don't forget McCain's hand in that one, OK?
Honey, a plant in the RALLY to yell those alleged things...nm
//
Bring us out of the 20th century and plant our feet firmly
Keep it simple.
Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in PA

And is moving their plant to MEXICO.  It's situations like this where NAFTA should be renegotiated and remove any profit incentive for companies to take away American jobs like this.


Although I really like York Peppermint Patties, I don't think I'll continue to buy this product.


Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in Pa.


By Associated Press



READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.




READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.


http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/39968037.html


 


Joe the plumber was a plant! Talk radio knew about him BEFORE he asked Obama a question
He is related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal that McCain was involved in.
That could work, PK.

but hey where do you work now
exMQMT? if you do not mind that is.  Thanks! 
Sam, please let me know where you work.
I am an excellent MT who would love to have enough free time to post messages on this board all day long, but the companies I work for require me to spend most of my day transcribing. I would love to find a company who would allow me the freedom that you have to spend hour-after-hour posting to my little heart's desire. Please point me in the right direction, as I would love to be as free as you are to repeatedly force my opinions on everyone who reads the MTStars board. You can e-mail me if you would like to keep this confidential. I want to be just like you!!!!!
no thanks, does not work for me.
I will never agree with you no matter what you say or do on this board -

As far as taxing rich democrats, I remember President Clinton objecting to not being taxed and coming forward that he was against that from the beginning.

{You really think it is fair for those who have been successful to redistribute their money to other people? Be punished for success? I do not get that mindset}

- hey you are trying to convince someone who is older than 50 that I do not deserve anything for my hard work for some 30+ years, not going to happen.

I am from the days when employers had to pay you what you were worth, health insurance, full benefits, etc etc. You will never ever convince me I am better off just by repeating it over and over.

Sorry, not interested in any how, any way or, any time for rich corps to have the right to make me work twice as hard for less, so they can send the majority of work overseas to avoid paying people decent wages or by contributing anything except by their own will to anything in this country at their own discretion. If I am forced to pay taxes, they should be also.

trickle down theory, what has trickled down to the middle class but hardship, suffering, back to slave labor and poor working conditions...

Sending work overseas and all the side-effects from that directly affects me and my family and our quality of life.

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice - not.
I have done all the work.....all you have to do
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Not quite sure how that will work
but I think he meant that they would look at the value of a house and renegotiate the mortgage based on the new value of the house since values have gone down.  That way people aren't upside down with owing more than their home is worth.  He isn't just going to buy up and pay for these mortgages. 
I know who most will have to work for
The government.....sadly enough. That is socialism for ya!!!!!
And those that do not work get all of BOTH of
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Won't ever work

It's not the law-abiding hunter gun owners that you have to worry about.  The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun, just like drugs.  It doesn't matter what kind of law there is in place.  Those laws just punish the rest of us. 


 


I don't know how this should work......nm
Then the whole responsibility would be with the people.
okay .. i have to get to work
you want to research it

the one I am talking about was posted the day after the election

and it was changed on saturday or sunday ...

the site I saw the images posted has archived that and I am not sure how to retreive it.

believe me or not, it is your choice.

and this "change" is just another reason I remain skeptical about the future administration.

peace out ..

work on your

excessive focus on what "they" think and do.  Spend more time on what you think and do.  Works everytime.


 


What I work on...
Working 2 full-time jobs 90+ hours a week, excessive focus on paying my own bills and staying afloat. Not much time for much else but sleep. Truth is truth, the reality is what it is, you know.
do you work in the

overused cliches department proliferation section?


 


If they don't work....(sm)
then they obviously need help making them work.  Hence....funding.
You are probably right. SOME MT work may
nm
and, obviously, you don't work!
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So you don't work?
Must not. And you think the KKK is gone? lol - sure you're black, uh-huh. whatever. Now I'm supposed to kiss your @$$? yeah, right.
Even those who work sometimes have
to get gov't assistance. Not all are lazy good for nothings as you depict, many are the elderly or the disabled. Who cares what they buy to eat.
I use to work for SS and if you are sm
an adult who has never paid in or do not have enough working credits you cannot draw SS disability. You can draw what is called SSI which is a social security supplement paid through your state to folks who don't qualify for SS or don't get enough.

Kids who get SS like Octomoms kids are getting SSI unless its a situation where a parent who was working died, then there are death benefits for minor children.

IF there is no SS for you when you retire it is not because of what people who are drawing it now are getting it is becasue our government has robbed the SS fund. Your SS benefits are based on what you have made in your lifetime. If the fund is still there and the government doesn't take it all, you will get exactly the amount you are suppose to get based on what you have made in your life time.

As far as these lawyers advertising to get benefits for folks who are depressed, alcoholic, whatever.......these people, again, cannot get regular SS disability benefits if they have not worked and paid in. These commercials don't tell you that. The attorneys can fight for SSI (the supplement) for their clients but not disability SS if not worked and paid in.

As far as someone with depression drawing benefits, there are many folks out there who suffer from debilitating depression who do deserve these benefits and are totally disabled. I do know the type you are talking about though, the deadbeats who draw benefits and then do everything else under the sun. I have seen it also. Then I have seen people with strokes and totally disabled who have to fight like dogs to get what they are entitled to. Its ridiculous. I just wanted to clear up the different funds that money come from.

Bottom line is for the regular SS disability benefit, if you have not worked and paid into it, you cannot draw it. You may be able to draw from SSI through your state but that is basically welfare and you have to qualify financially for that unlike social security disability.
I use to work for SS and if you are sm
an adult who has never paid in or do not have enough working credits you cannot draw SS disability. You can draw what is called SSI which is a social security supplement paid through your state to folks who don't qualify for SS or don't get enough.

Kids who get SS like Octomoms kids are getting SSI unless its a situation where a parent who was working died, then there are death benefits for minor children.

IF there is no SS for you when you retire it is not because of what people who are drawing it now are getting it is becasue our government has robbed the SS fund. Your SS benefits are based on what you have made in your lifetime. If the fund is still there and the government doesn't take it all, you will get exactly the amount you are suppose to get based on what you have made in your life time.

As far as these lawyers advertising to get benefits for folks who are depressed, alcoholic, whatever.......these people, again, cannot get regular SS disability benefits if they have not worked and paid in. These commercials don't tell you that. The attorneys can fight for SSI (the supplement) for their clients but not disability SS if not worked and paid in.

As far as someone with depression drawing benefits, there are many folks out there who suffer from debilitating depression who do deserve these benefits and are totally disabled. I do know the type you are talking about though, the deadbeats who draw benefits and then do everything else under the sun. I have seen it also. Then I have seen people with strokes and totally disabled who have to fight like dogs to get what they are entitled to. Its ridiculous. I just wanted to clear up the different funds that money come from.

Bottom line is for the regular SS disability benefit, if you have not worked and paid into it, you cannot draw it. You may be able to draw from SSI through your state but that is basically welfare and you have to qualify financially for that unlike social security disability.

Also if the government stops borrowing from SS and wasting it, you will get exactly what you worked and paid into. you can determine that by looking at your SS statement you get every year.
What works for you may not work
If you are a good Christian, good for you; be a shining example of your faith. But if in the process of being a good Christian you trample MY rights and/or faith, well, sorry, that isn't good. THAT is why I believe in the separation of church and state. We are all different and have different levels of development, spiritual and otherwise. God is the ONLY and ultimate judge; I believe we all come before Him to account for our lives. My relationship with God is between Him and me...no one else. I don't think it is the job of my fellow humans to judge me and and tell me, *My religion/faith is better than yours* I don't care how much YOU believe it.
I can't get the video to work...sm
But I read an interview on the web where he talks about the clash of civilizations. Will read more on what he has to say. I will agree this has gotten far bigger than politics - far.

For the record, I don't hate Bush I just don't think he is the best choice for president.
Thank you very much for such a good work
Congratulations on a great web site. I am a new computer user and finding you was like coming home. Continued success.
Hopefully the link will work
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TCR-ABC-Path.mov




Works for me. But it will never work for you and we all know it. nm
nm
Link did not work, here it is sm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhh89RVs3ps&mode=related&search=
Oh well, I guess it's not going to work....
You can find the same piece on the 2nd page of the MQ board (11/15) under "Christmas off???...What luck!!!!  it seems to work there just fine. 
That ought to work well for you, at least for tonight.
nm
Doesn't work that way.

IF Obama gets in, then Hilary can't run against him next time.  He would be the incumbent, and I don't see her jumping ships.


She can run against McCain in 2012...


Work less, earn less.....
Well, that is called socialism to the core. Those that make less think they have a right to those that make more, but do they ever think WHY someone else makes more? Maybe a higher education, many many many longer hours and a MUCH harder job?

My husband has worked his butt off for 30+ years and made a good salary for it. But there are sacrifices made along the way. So he should be penalized because he worked his way through college, struggled the entire time, worked his way up in a company and has paid his dues? No, I don't think so.

If you want more money, get a higher education and go work for it just like he did.
sorry 'bout that...this one should work
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml
That one doesn't work either. What's it about? nm
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and you work with words all day? sad.
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heck, why work?
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