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Like I'm really SURE any card-carrying feminist,

Posted By: (and I'm one of them), -sm on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: Interesting article see link inside - ermt

would support someone who is:
100% anti-abortion (in all cases, even rape); homophobic; pro-guns; so non-environmental as to not be 'green' but totally 'black' and one of those who believes that somehow the more children you produce, the more rights you have to step on those who choose not to overpopulate the planet.

Yeah, she's definitely got the feminists' vote, alright.... NOT!!!


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Of course it's the fault of the terrorists for carrying out attacks.

And it's the fault of this president for obsessing about Saddam Hussein (since he's been doing since the early 1990s) and not doing enough to protect his own people from future attacks.


The terrorists have all the power here.  They're holding all the cards.  They once again managed to scare a large part of the world.  They also know something that American soldiers DON'T know.  The know what the outcome of their plan is going to be.  They use the element of surprise, and when they wake up in the morning, they don't wonder if they're still going to be alive the next day.  They already KNOW they won't be because they've planned it that way.  They control their own fate, as well as the fate of everyone who gets in their way.


Our soldiers have to deal with that every single day.  A car bomb here.  A suicide bomber there.  Every single day is 9/11 for them.  It sounds real nice to pretend to respect and honor them when participating in a photo op on an aircraft carrier.  Why doesn't he care enough about their lives to provide adequate body armor and Humvees for them?  He has no problem giving big tax breaks to his rich base (and YES, they are his REAL base, not the Christian right; just wait till he betrays you all with his moderate Supreme Court nominees). He has no problem giving free healthcare to all Iraqis. Forget about the American people for a minute. Why can't he care about our troops -- our CHILDREN -- enough to supply them with adequate equipment?  Of course, he personally would not know what constitutes adequate equipment because HE WAS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO EVER SERVE IN COMBAT.


As far as giving this President too much credit, you obviously didn't comprehend one word of my post.


HELLO!


Well, as a feminist myself
You aren't going to see me supporting anyone who is in a beauty pagent, not very feminist in my opinion. Selling your looks for money is prostitution in my eyes. Nothing something I aspire to have my teenage daughter grow up and participate in.

However, there is never any excuse for being hateful to anyone for expressing their opinion, even if I disagree with it.
Carrying a hydrocephalic fetus doesn't put the mother at high risk. Please.. nm
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I'm a died-in-the-wool feminist, and have -
I can see through his reasons for picking a woman as Veep. But if things are allowed to continue on the downward spiral America's been on for the past 8 years, we're in big trouble.

In Obama, I see HOPE for middle class America.

In McCain,I see NO HOPE for us at all.
The same SP who tells Couric she is a feminist and
while she chafes and bristles during the Williams interview (when seated next to McC)? Keeping track of one's own stance on gender issues should not present such conflict and challenge to a VP pick. SP does doesn't blink and eye at McC's air quotes and sneering "mother's health" utterance, in view of her own stance on women's reproductive rights, whereby she cuts no slack, even in the case of rape and incest victims. In addition, she supports McCain's views on the issue of equal pay for women.

More than four decades after the Equal Pay Act made it illegal to pay men and women different wages for the same work, the fight over equal pay has not been put to rest. Although the wage gap has narrowed since the days when full-time working women made 58 cents on average to the dollar earned by men, women's wages have remained stuck at 77 cents to the dollar since 2001 (the shrub era).

McCain's contribution? In 1985, McCain voted against a study to investigate pay differences among federal employees, and determine whether they were the result of discrimination. His progress in the last 23 years? In April 2008 McCain voted against Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, stating it “opens us up for lawsuits, for all kinds of problems and difficulties.” "We do not need to put this burden of equal pay on business. Women need more education and better training.

Failin Palin is no suffragette. As a matter of fact, a McCain/Palin administration would set back the gains women have made toward equality at least 35 years. For many of us, we may as well keep right on going, straight back to the turn of the 20th century.
yeah McBush will get all the feminist votes now
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Ah the race card!
always played when a leftist is against the wall when it comes to facts. France has changed diametrically in the 200+ years since the revolutionary war, but you probably have your own leftist rewritten history book on that too, so why bother...
Is it any different than the race card?
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Don't need a library card but thanks
Well, I never said homosexuals were making up these feelings. I truly believe that one doesn't just choose to be attracted to another of the same gender, that they biologically are for whatever reason. I don't believe one would want to purposefully put themselves through the ridicule and scrutiny they have been through. I have a friend who is gay. Everybody in the neighborhood knew it as young children. Four decades later he finally actually says his partner's name, as though we didn't already know it. I certainly don't think less of him as a human being. He has made great accomplishments in his life and is well known in the interior design business and has done great for himself. Some who read the high end design magazines would probably even know him if I mentioned his name, but I won't; it's not my place. He's even been on A&E from time to time when describing old mansions/homes in the US.

The question was asked do I believe two of the same sex should be allowed to "marry" and I said no. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman but if two of the same gender want to live together, no one has the right to stop them.

I don't need a biology lesson to know common sense......and I will say again, body parts weren't made to fit same sex to same sex for a reason.

This guy I speak of was raised in the church, he knows God's plan for him, he will have to choose his life, no one can do it for him. That doesn't mean I don't love him as a friend.
pity card. nm

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Exactly, and the other race card is
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Worried about $2,000 debit card? Oh please!
I was reading some posts on MTStars main board last night and OMG some people are wondering what will happen to the $2,000.00 debit card money the victims will get.  One posted she did not want her tax money going to alcohol or drugs!!  Would she be saying that if it had been a middle class white neighborhood or just because most of the victims are black, so she thinks they spend all their money on alcohol and drugs.  These people had jobs, they had lives, they had homes, they had animals..they now have NOTHING, due to not fault of their own, due to our governments inaction and criminal neglect.  So, until they can get their lives back on track (dont know if I ever could, sure hope they can..God help them all), our government is their employer and whatever money they get through the government, they can do with what they want.  My God, they have nothing, nothing.  I cannot imagine.  It blows my mind and each day I get sadder and more angry over the horror.  I gotta tell ya, if I went through what they did, when I got that $2,000.00, I probably would buy a bottle of wine along with finding a home to rent, clothing, food, getting my kids back in school and paying for transportation so I could find another job and then I would relax the first night in my new home with my kids and drink that darn bottle of wine..and thank the powers that be that I am still alive.. I am glad my tax dollars will help these unfortunate people.  
The $2000 debit card sm

has provisions that state the card cannot be used for alcohol or cigarettes.  They will get no cash back on any purchase. 


The government has already thought of all these things.  The card can only be used for food, personal items, etc. 


Here's the fear card, people.
Lap it up.
That's not a fear card, that's the truth.
If Clinton had dealt with the terrorists a little sooner, 9/11 may not have even happened. I know this is a shoulda/coulda kind of statement, but everyone's always going on about Bush and the war - I may not agree with why he went into Iraq, but I know with him in the Oval Office, we're a lot safer in this country, as well as several other countries. The truth is that there are many people that hate us and our country not because of who our President is, it's because we choose to be free, have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and freedom from tyranny. Can you imagine someone just walking into the White House and declaring himself President? That happens in the kind of countries that hate us. There are problems in this country, yes, but at least be glad that you live in a country where you won't get sent to jail or killed because you have different beliefs than the government. And as far as being afraid of these people? We should be!!! They have nuclear weapons (or will soon) - you don't think they're crazy enough to use them? That's why I want someone leading my country who's not afraid to stand up and say NO! You can't mess with my country and her people!!! Now, whichever candidate you think will do that is the one that deserves your vote.
but when his card gets to the polling office...
it will be knocked out and not counted. ACORN has to turn it in, it's up to the registrars in each town to verify it and count it.
Plays the religious card?
When it suits him? How about trying to set the record straight when others spew baloney about him? If you were running for office, you would do the same thing if people were saying incorrect things about you, what you believe in, have voted or not voted for, etc.

If he didn't people would then say, "See, he didn't dispute it, so it must be true." Either way, the bashers find reason to bash ... cause that's what they do.
There is also all that untraceable credit card...
money. I imagine a few campaign law restrictions were shattered with that. and yes, he took money from lobbyists in the form of bundlers. Mccain did too. They ALL do.
here we go, let's play the "racism" card again....
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It's always the race card with any black....
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More might have forgiven her had she not played the race card.

Which she is constantly doing.  She tried to make this all about race.  Shameful and I am sure a lot of blacks would agree. I heard Larry Elder talking about it and he agreed.  I wonder what Bill Cosby would say.  She needs to stop doing that.


This does not cost anything. Just pick a card and a message...sm
Or even type your own message and Xerox handles the mailing. This is neat.
So playing the gender card to get votes
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Totally agree. Now with card check, bye bye

Wal-Mart.  Yeah, the unions will get what they have wanted for a long time, the total destruction of a company where many of us shop because we can afford it on our meager MT paychecks. 


Your post paints a very good picture of the destructiveness of unionization, now which will be made worse by coercion and intimidation.


I agree - paid last card off today
The same thing here - my rates got raised on all my cards as of April, for no reason at all.  I'm a good customer too, never late, never over limit.  I'm going to try to live within my means, and let the banks live without my interest payments.  As more people do that, maybe the banks will see that we are tired of being punished for playing by the rules so that the incompetent and unscrupulous can profit!
Ummm, don't play the race card here
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People like you like to pull a race card all the
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"

This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.

Puh-THETIC.
Sigh...you go right back and play the religion card....

despite how many times I tell you it has nothing to do with what my Christian beliefs are, other than my belief in Christ strengthens my moral resolve.  Abortion is morally wrong and it is on that level that I most strenuously oppose it.  I have no reason to believe that if I parted ways with God as you have that my moral convictions would go with Him.  I had moral convictions before I knew Christ.  All knowing Him has done is strengthen them.


You have morals, right?  Has nothing to do with religion, as you don't have a belief in God, right?  You and He parted ways a long time ago didn't you say?  Did your morals go with Him?  Of COURSE they didn't.  You think war is morally wrong.  That does not come from any religion in you does it?  NO.  It comes from your morality.  The same place my exception to abortion comes from. There are many people against abortion on moral grounds who aren't Christians. 


You ignored my question again.  Do you think war is ever justified?  Was the Revolutionary War?  Was the Civil War?  ANY war? 


Just as you think it is a shame war casualties do you light a fire in my heart like millions of aborted children, I think it is a shame that aborted children don't light a fire in yours.


Geeezzzz piglet.  Is there a GOOD way to murder a baby?  I don't think so!!   I don't care how they do it...it still kills them.  Murder is rarely done in a "humane" manner.  It would not be more palatable to me no matter how it was done.  I mention how it is done because you continue to talk about maimed and mangled and bloody war casualties.  That is why I bring the point that that is exactly what abortion does...maim, mangle, torture, and kill.  Neither is pretty.  Both are ugly, and both end with death.  Would you want pictures of aborted babies on the 6:00 news?  Would you like live video footage of a late term partial birth abortion with your evening meal?  Perhaps we could have a half hour of war victims and a half hour of abortions?


I think you are wrong about abortion going underground.  Women would start going to Mexico or to whatever state abortions were available.   But at least the woman still has a choice of an illegal abortion or carrying the child.  The child NEVER gets a choice.  In your world that is fair.  In mine, it is not.  That being said, I realistically do not believe that we will ever live in a country again where abortion is illegal nationwide.  I do not believe it will happen.  That does not mean I will not continue to speak out against it or work with organizations to give women a choice other than abortion.  And if called upon to vote for or against...it will be against.  Just like I would not vote to legalize murder.  Or theft.  It is just amazing to me how outside the womb it is a crime to kill a child, inside the womb it is open season. Freaking amazing.  That is why in a partial birth abortion they have to force a breech delivery, then pull back skin of neck, insert needle and suck the brain out, to collapse the skull, while the head is still inside the mother.  So that the baby is dead when it is "delivered."  If the head was out before that procedure, by law the child has been "born" and to kill it then would be murder.  So, to be "legal," have to suck the brain out while the head still inside. Sick.


Going to war is not a unilateral decision.  It requires a majority of Congress.  Abortion requires a majority of one.  Giving one human being total control and choice to take the life of another is morally wrong.  Any other time that happens we call it murder without blinking an eye.


So, whether we "agree" with disagreeing or not....we disagree. 


Have a wonderful Christmas, Piglet.  :)


 


Love that race card. Pure class. sm

This is coming from someone who trained at the gym for 2 years with a black guy.  Yeah, I'm racist, all right.


Like Bill Clinton said, "they played the race card from the bottom of the deck!"


Obama started the race card game all by his
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Notice how the dems are the ones always playing the race card...

and then blaming it on the pubs....typical.


No race card here...just a simple rhetorical question
See how they run....far, far away from the inbred racism of their own faction....the same racism that mobilized hoaxters and assassins.
On a lighter note, a bipartisan funny card (sm)
http://www.americangreetings.com/ecards/view.pd?i=474735065&m=2086&rr=y&source=ag999
That 'racist' card doesn't work with me..... wrong is
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Explain this: credit card fraud from Obama campaign
ct 14 2008 12:00AM
http://sayanythingblog.com/index.php

Keep a close eye on your credit card bills this election season lest you end up paying for a contribution you didn’t approve to a political candidate you don’t support



A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam


Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month ? a $2300 donation to Barack Obama?s presidential campaign. The Larman?s say they don?t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they?re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook


They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud


?(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,? said Steve Larman. ?It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.?
The Larman?s don?t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans


?They (Chase) kept on asking me ?are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama?,? said Rachel Larman. ?And I repeatedly said ?Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site?.?


Chase dropped the charge from the Larman?s card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it?s too late.


This wasn’t just some random prankster.  $2,300 is the exact amount of the maximum any individual can give to a federal candidate for office


Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud ...sm


Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud
Last Edited: Tuesday, 07 Oct 2008, 10:23 PM CDT
Created: Tuesday, 07 Oct 2008, 8:58 PM CDT
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NORTH Kansas CITY, MO. -- A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam.

Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month -- a $2300 donation to Barack Obama's presidential campaign. The Larman's say they don't want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they're not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.

They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.

"(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this," said Steve Larman. "It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations."

The Larman's don't want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.

"They (Chase) kept on asking me 'are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama'," said Rachel Larman. "And I repeatedly said 'Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site'."

Chase dropped the charge from the Larman's card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it's too late.

"You always get emails saying be on the lookout," said Rachel. "So I just wanted to get the word out, that there's someone out there perpetrating this against people, and to pay attention."

The Obama campaign said they were aware of the Larman's story, but did not have any comment.

Megan Cloherty, FOX 4 News
I knew what you meant...you notice which side plays the race card....nm
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