Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud ...sm
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Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud
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NORTH Kansas CITY, MO. -- A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam.
Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month -- a $2300 donation to Barack Obama's presidential campaign. The Larman's say they don't want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they're not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.
They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.
"(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this," said Steve Larman. "It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations."
The Larman's don't want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.
"They (Chase) kept on asking me 'are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama'," said Rachel Larman. "And I repeatedly said 'Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site'."
Chase dropped the charge from the Larman's card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it's too late.
"You always get emails saying be on the lookout," said Rachel. "So I just wanted to get the word out, that there's someone out there perpetrating this against people, and to pay attention."
The Obama campaign said they were aware of the Larman's story, but did not have any comment.
Megan Cloherty, FOX 4 News
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Explain this: credit card fraud from Obama campaign
ct 14 2008 12:00AM
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Keep a close eye on your credit card bills this election season lest you end up paying for a contribution you didn’t approve to a political candidate you don’t support
A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam
Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month ? a $2300 donation to Barack Obama?s presidential campaign. The Larman?s say they don?t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they?re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook
They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud
?(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,? said Steve Larman. ?It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.?
The Larman?s don?t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans
?They (Chase) kept on asking me ?are you sure you wouldnt have gone to a site in support of Obama?,? said Rachel Larman. ?And I repeatedly said ?Im voting for McCain - I would not be going to an Obama site?.?
Chase dropped the charge from the Larman?s card. The couple is thankful thay they caught the charge on the card, but worried that others may not see that type of fraud on their own credit cards before it?s too late.
This wasn’t just some random prankster. $2,300 is the exact amount of the maximum any individual can give to a federal candidate for office
There is also all that untraceable credit card...
money. I imagine a few campaign law restrictions were shattered with that. and yes, he took money from lobbyists in the form of bundlers. Mccain did too. They ALL do.
Illinois isn't the only state with political fraud
The U.S. Attorney brought a case against former Sen. Vince Fumo of PA. He was found guilty today of 137 counts of corruption! They are holding the bail hearing now to see if he should go straight to jail. Even the governor was supoened to testify.
Sure wish they would start an investigation against him, too, as he probably did the same things, especially with the way he takes care of only certain groups. Hope this link works.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20090316_Fumo_judge_allows_Twittering_juror_to_stay_on_panel_.html
The 2008 credit has to be paid back (no interest), but not the 2009 credit.
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Google voter fraud 2000, voter fraud 2004 and
The pubs have been down this road before.
Iran warns US. Israel Livini Blasts O's Iran plan
Iran warns US.
http://www.startribune.com/world/33937339.html?elr=KArks:DCiUBcy7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
Israel concerned about ties with new US administration.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=060dd72c-c876-4e0d-b39f-c835c26b256c
And we have to worry about our own economy. Afraid to find out what is next.
credit for safety = credit for 9/11
If Bush wants takes credit for keeping us "safe" from terrorist attacks since 9/11, then he has to take credit for the fact that we experienced the largest terrorist attack in US history under his presidency, as well. He can't have it both ways!
I gave credit where credit was due.
I think Obama did a good job not saying anything about the hostage situation with the captain and I commend him for giving the order to the Navy Seals to do what they did. But still.....I think the heroes and the biggest thank yous need to go to the ones who risked their necks to save the captain.....and that would be the Navy Seals.
All in all, I don't like a lot of things that Obama has done. I know Bush didn't do us any favors in his 8 years either, but Obama is now in office and I do not like the way our country is heading.
As for not giving Obama any slack....how many of you people gave Bush slack on anything even when he did something good....cuz believe it or not.....he did some good things too. It goes both ways.
Ah the race card!
always played when a leftist is against the wall when it comes to facts. France has changed diametrically in the 200+ years since the revolutionary war, but you probably have your own leftist rewritten history book on that too, so why bother...
Is it any different than the race card?
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Don't need a library card but thanks
Well, I never said homosexuals were making up these feelings. I truly believe that one doesn't just choose to be attracted to another of the same gender, that they biologically are for whatever reason. I don't believe one would want to purposefully put themselves through the ridicule and scrutiny they have been through. I have a friend who is gay. Everybody in the neighborhood knew it as young children. Four decades later he finally actually says his partner's name, as though we didn't already know it. I certainly don't think less of him as a human being. He has made great accomplishments in his life and is well known in the interior design business and has done great for himself. Some who read the high end design magazines would probably even know him if I mentioned his name, but I won't; it's not my place. He's even been on A&E from time to time when describing old mansions/homes in the US.
The question was asked do I believe two of the same sex should be allowed to "marry" and I said no. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman but if two of the same gender want to live together, no one has the right to stop them.
I don't need a biology lesson to know common sense......and I will say again, body parts weren't made to fit same sex to same sex for a reason.
This guy I speak of was raised in the church, he knows God's plan for him, he will have to choose his life, no one can do it for him. That doesn't mean I don't love him as a friend.
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Exactly, and the other race card is
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Worried about $2,000 debit card? Oh please!
I was reading some posts on MTStars main board last night and OMG some people are wondering what will happen to the $2,000.00 debit card money the victims will get. One posted she did not want her tax money going to alcohol or drugs!! Would she be saying that if it had been a middle class white neighborhood or just because most of the victims are black, so she thinks they spend all their money on alcohol and drugs. These people had jobs, they had lives, they had homes, they had animals..they now have NOTHING, due to not fault of their own, due to our governments inaction and criminal neglect. So, until they can get their lives back on track (dont know if I ever could, sure hope they can..God help them all), our government is their employer and whatever money they get through the government, they can do with what they want. My God, they have nothing, nothing. I cannot imagine. It blows my mind and each day I get sadder and more angry over the horror. I gotta tell ya, if I went through what they did, when I got that $2,000.00, I probably would buy a bottle of wine along with finding a home to rent, clothing, food, getting my kids back in school and paying for transportation so I could find another job and then I would relax the first night in my new home with my kids and drink that darn bottle of wine..and thank the powers that be that I am still alive.. I am glad my tax dollars will help these unfortunate people.
The $2000 debit card sm
has provisions that state the card cannot be used for alcohol or cigarettes. They will get no cash back on any purchase.
The government has already thought of all these things. The card can only be used for food, personal items, etc.
Here's the fear card, people.
Lap it up.
That's not a fear card, that's the truth.
If Clinton had dealt with the terrorists a little sooner, 9/11 may not have even happened. I know this is a shoulda/coulda kind of statement, but everyone's always going on about Bush and the war - I may not agree with why he went into Iraq, but I know with him in the Oval Office, we're a lot safer in this country, as well as several other countries. The truth is that there are many people that hate us and our country not because of who our President is, it's because we choose to be free, have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and freedom from tyranny. Can you imagine someone just walking into the White House and declaring himself President? That happens in the kind of countries that hate us. There are problems in this country, yes, but at least be glad that you live in a country where you won't get sent to jail or killed because you have different beliefs than the government. And as far as being afraid of these people? We should be!!! They have nuclear weapons (or will soon) - you don't think they're crazy enough to use them? That's why I want someone leading my country who's not afraid to stand up and say NO! You can't mess with my country and her people!!! Now, whichever candidate you think will do that is the one that deserves your vote.
Like I'm really SURE any card-carrying feminist,
would support someone who is:
100% anti-abortion (in all cases, even rape); homophobic; pro-guns; so non-environmental as to not be 'green' but totally 'black' and one of those who believes that somehow the more children you produce, the more rights you have to step on those who choose not to overpopulate the planet.
Yeah, she's definitely got the feminists' vote, alright.... NOT!!!
but when his card gets to the polling office...
it will be knocked out and not counted. ACORN has to turn it in, it's up to the registrars in each town to verify it and count it.
Plays the religious card?
When it suits him? How about trying to set the record straight when others spew baloney about him? If you were running for office, you would do the same thing if people were saying incorrect things about you, what you believe in, have voted or not voted for, etc.
If he didn't people would then say, "See, he didn't dispute it, so it must be true." Either way, the bashers find reason to bash ... cause that's what they do.
here we go, let's play the "racism" card again....
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It's always the race card with any black....
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Most OPs know he is a fraud. SM
A statement from the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council |
© Indian Country Today February 04, 2005. All Rights Reserved |
Posted: February 04, 2005 |
by: Dennis Banks |
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Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, and Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa -- Guest columnists
Ward Churchill was scheduled to speak at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y.on Feb. 3. His appearance was canceled by the college after he caused a public furor over his loathsome remarks about the 9/11 tragedy in New York. AIM's Grand Governing Council has been dealing with Churchill's hateful attitude and rip-off of Indian people for years.
The American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council representing the National and International leadership of the American Indian Movement once again is vehemently and emphatically repudiating and condemning the outrageous statements made by academic literary and Indian fraud, Ward Churchill in relationship to the 9/11 tragedy in New York City that claimed thousands of innocent people's lives.
Churchill's statement that these people deserved what happened to them, and calling them ''little Eichmanns,'' comparing them to Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann who implemented Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate European Jews and others, should be condemned by all.
The sorry part of this is Ward Churchill has fraudulently represented himself as an Indian, and a member of the American Indian Movement, a situation that has lifted him into the position of a lecturer on Indian activism. He has used the American Indian Movement's chapter in Denver to attack the leadership of the official American Indian Movement with his misinformation and propaganda campaigns.
Ward Churchill has been masquerading as an Indian for years behind his dark glasses and beaded headband. He waves around an honorary membership card that at one time was issued to anyone by the Keetoowah Tribe of Oklahoma. Former President Bill Clinton and many others received these cards, but these cards do not qualify the holder a member of any tribe. He has deceitfully and treacherously fooled innocent and naive Indian community members in Denver, Colo., as well as many other people worldwide. Churchill does not represent, nor does he speak on behalf of the American Indian Movement.
New York's Hamilton College Kirklands Project should be aware that in their search for truth and justice, the idea that they have hired a fraud to speak on Indian activism is in itself a betrayal of their goals.
Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, is chairman of the Board of the American Indian Movement. Nee Gon Nway Wee Dung, a.k.a., Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa, is the National executive director of the American Indian Movement. For more information, write to Ministry for Information, P.O. Box 13521, Minneapolis, MN 55414; call (612) 721-3914 ; e-mail aimggc@worldnet.att.net or visit www.aimovement.org. |
Fraud ??
This article doesn't mention fraud of any sort. We will have to see how it plays out.
More might have forgiven her had she not played the race card.
Which she is constantly doing. She tried to make this all about race. Shameful and I am sure a lot of blacks would agree. I heard Larry Elder talking about it and he agreed. I wonder what Bill Cosby would say. She needs to stop doing that.
This does not cost anything. Just pick a card and a message...sm
Or even type your own message and Xerox handles the mailing. This is neat.
So playing the gender card to get votes
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Totally agree. Now with card check, bye bye
Wal-Mart. Yeah, the unions will get what they have wanted for a long time, the total destruction of a company where many of us shop because we can afford it on our meager MT paychecks.
Your post paints a very good picture of the destructiveness of unionization, now which will be made worse by coercion and intimidation.
I agree - paid last card off today
The same thing here - my rates got raised on all my cards as of April, for no reason at all. I'm a good customer too, never late, never over limit. I'm going to try to live within my means, and let the banks live without my interest payments. As more people do that, maybe the banks will see that we are tired of being punished for playing by the rules so that the incompetent and unscrupulous can profit!
Ummm, don't play the race card here
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People like you like to pull a race card all the
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When all else fails, play the race card, right?
"You have a problem with someone speaking against THIS president, cause he is black and you can't stand it!"
This is what happens when you let Janine Garafalo tell you what to think.
Puh-THETIC.
Sigh...you go right back and play the religion card....
despite how many times I tell you it has nothing to do with what my Christian beliefs are, other than my belief in Christ strengthens my moral resolve. Abortion is morally wrong and it is on that level that I most strenuously oppose it. I have no reason to believe that if I parted ways with God as you have that my moral convictions would go with Him. I had moral convictions before I knew Christ. All knowing Him has done is strengthen them.
You have morals, right? Has nothing to do with religion, as you don't have a belief in God, right? You and He parted ways a long time ago didn't you say? Did your morals go with Him? Of COURSE they didn't. You think war is morally wrong. That does not come from any religion in you does it? NO. It comes from your morality. The same place my exception to abortion comes from. There are many people against abortion on moral grounds who aren't Christians.
You ignored my question again. Do you think war is ever justified? Was the Revolutionary War? Was the Civil War? ANY war?
Just as you think it is a shame war casualties do you light a fire in my heart like millions of aborted children, I think it is a shame that aborted children don't light a fire in yours.
Geeezzzz piglet. Is there a GOOD way to murder a baby? I don't think so!! I don't care how they do it...it still kills them. Murder is rarely done in a "humane" manner. It would not be more palatable to me no matter how it was done. I mention how it is done because you continue to talk about maimed and mangled and bloody war casualties. That is why I bring the point that that is exactly what abortion does...maim, mangle, torture, and kill. Neither is pretty. Both are ugly, and both end with death. Would you want pictures of aborted babies on the 6:00 news? Would you like live video footage of a late term partial birth abortion with your evening meal? Perhaps we could have a half hour of war victims and a half hour of abortions?
I think you are wrong about abortion going underground. Women would start going to Mexico or to whatever state abortions were available. But at least the woman still has a choice of an illegal abortion or carrying the child. The child NEVER gets a choice. In your world that is fair. In mine, it is not. That being said, I realistically do not believe that we will ever live in a country again where abortion is illegal nationwide. I do not believe it will happen. That does not mean I will not continue to speak out against it or work with organizations to give women a choice other than abortion. And if called upon to vote for or against...it will be against. Just like I would not vote to legalize murder. Or theft. It is just amazing to me how outside the womb it is a crime to kill a child, inside the womb it is open season. Freaking amazing. That is why in a partial birth abortion they have to force a breech delivery, then pull back skin of neck, insert needle and suck the brain out, to collapse the skull, while the head is still inside the mother. So that the baby is dead when it is "delivered." If the head was out before that procedure, by law the child has been "born" and to kill it then would be murder. So, to be "legal," have to suck the brain out while the head still inside. Sick.
Going to war is not a unilateral decision. It requires a majority of Congress. Abortion requires a majority of one. Giving one human being total control and choice to take the life of another is morally wrong. Any other time that happens we call it murder without blinking an eye.
So, whether we "agree" with disagreeing or not....we disagree.
Have a wonderful Christmas, Piglet. :)
Love that race card. Pure class. sm
This is coming from someone who trained at the gym for 2 years with a black guy. Yeah, I'm racist, all right.
Like Bill Clinton said, "they played the race card from the bottom of the deck!"
Obama started the race card game all by his
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Notice how the dems are the ones always playing the race card...
and then blaming it on the pubs....typical.
No race card here...just a simple rhetorical question
See how they run....far, far away from the inbred racism of their own faction....the same racism that mobilized hoaxters and assassins.
On a lighter note, a bipartisan funny card (sm)
http://www.americangreetings.com/ecards/view.pd?i=474735065&m=2086&rr=y&source=ag999
That 'racist' card doesn't work with me..... wrong is
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Do you really want to get into campaign fraud?
You really don't want to, because the left has a corner on that market One example is the DNC registering dead people in Detroit. You know, we could tit for tat all day long about these things, but the conspiracy that elections are fixed is just that, a conspiracy.
Your energies would best be served by trying to help the the schizophrenic Democratic party finding a unified vision and an action plan other than dissing the Republicans. It's not our fault you're losing it's yours. The article you posted proves that energies are being wasted on the wrong things. But really, I don't care if you lose just so you do.
It's called fraud
I happened to get a call from the police in Arizona a few months ago. I have always lived in Ohio. It seems someone (several someones actually) had LISTS of people across the country of personal info, account numbers, passwords, email addresses, etc. pretty much everything you need, even machines to make the credit cards and license IDs. Arizona puts the fraudsters away just for having this info without your permission. Apparently they had a large fraud bust out there and they don't waste their time on proving what they did with it. YEA ARIZONA!
Joe the P is just another repub FRAUD
just one of many many many and the sheep who won't open their eyes to the mess the repubs have made will never learn
Voter fraud by democrats ...sm
Being a big problem is a huge myth put forth by repubs. Don't believe Fox News and the like. Just Google it. The extent of the problem has been wildly exaggerated. (I wish I could find the link I had on this because it was nonpartisan, but I didn't save it.)
Now if you want to talk about voter suppression fraud OTOH, the Repubs are experts on that. Here's one article:
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Using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, the GOP has propagated the myth of voter fraud to purge the rolls of non-Republicans.
Read it at:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting
O is not under investigation for voter fraud
First of all, "voter fraud" is a bit hard to prove BEFORE the election. ACORN has been targeted by right-wingers for the past 38 years, since the day of its inception. While I do not condone it, this comes as no surprise that poverty-stricken workers who are paid by the signature and have quotas would turn in falsified statements. Barack Obama did not tell them to do that.
Nobody is swallowing anything, including your deluded ramblings. Those soup kitchen patrons, rock concert audiences and homeless are American voters with much more human dignity than you are able to display. We do not live under a Nazi fascist system. Their votes are equal to yours.
The kind of hatred you hold says a lot about you. You have a flock mentality. Original thought or ideas are beyond our grasp. It takes a lot of energy to harbor that kind of hate. Your life will be cursed until you let that go, and your campaign will be doomed to failure if you give Americans so little credit as to think that anyone in their right mind would want to join you and subscribe to such trash.
By the way, just how is McCain going to fix that pesky economic crisis you are trying so diligently to avoid acknowledging?
ACORN has already admitted to fraud.
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Voter fraud does not register with SS# and
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ACORN gets bashed because they are a FRAUD!
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Yes, O and his friends ACORN are a fraud, but at
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If Obama is discovered to be a fraud later, all his
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Obama being a possible fraud as president
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Food stamp fraud
Please don't think I am accusing everyone who gets public assistance of this. Many people who get the assistance really need it, and I have a friend who is an example.
But there is also a subculture involved here. People can qualify for food stamps who have undocumented income, under-the-table earnings, and even money from criminal activity. They don't actually need the food stamps to eat, but they get them.
Back when food stamps were actual coupons, there used to be a thriving black market in buying and selling food stamps for a percentage of their cash value. Then the money could be used for tobacco, alcohol, drugs and other things. Maybe the new debit card system put a stop to this, maybe not. The money goes into your account every month. All it would take is lending your card and sharing your PIN number with someone. My friend has never been asked for ID.
And if the object of this assistance is to feed (and I think by that we mean nourish) people, is it right for parents to stuff their kids full of twinkies, chips and Pepsi with the food stamp money? What the kids need is nourishment, not junk. What we end up with is another poorly nourished, hyperactive generation that cannot concentrate and learn in school, then cannot hold down an adequate job, and the cycle repeats itself.
In the county where I live, if you are on public health assistance and get pregnant you have to comply with a whole host of requirements. Parenting classes, classes on prenatal nutrition, classes on how to take care of an infant, regular checkups, drug tests, classes on contraception, etc. You should consider this a job. We are paying you to have a healthy baby, and these are your duties. Women scream about this being degrading, and an invasion of their privacy.
But honestly, if you accept the assistance, why would you assume there should be no strings? Why would you assume you don't have to jump through some hoops to get it? Do you expect to be left alone until the day of delivery, get a free stay in the hospital, and go your merry way? Can't we assume that since this is your second illegetimate pregnancy, you don't really know what's causing it? Or you forgot and need to repeat the class?
These types of assistance are supposed to be an investment society makes in improving the situation. Used properly, they can be. But often they are considered just another entitlement. *Just gimme the money and get outta my face.*
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